Queer Duck: Homophobic Jokes at Gay People's Expense
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
http://www.icebox.com/shows/show_175/show_frameset.asp
(Queer Duck is part of the "Icebox Originals" animation series.) I am
very offended by this show, and wrote to their webmaster:
"Queer Duck is a cruel stereotyping of gay people, and should be shut
down. The latest episode implies that gay people drug children...and
that they are also a bunch of drug abusers themselves. I'd say that
IceBox is really screwed up to promote such horrible slander against
gays. I am complaining about Queer Duck to various gay media-watch
outlets."
I suggest that others check out Queer Duck, and send letters of
complaint to various gay media and activist groups.
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Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>At the following web page is the new "Queer Duck" animated series:
>
> http://www.icebox.com/shows/show_175/show_frameset.asp
>
>(Queer Duck is part of the "Icebox Originals" animation series.) I am
>very offended by this show, and wrote to their webmaster:
>
>"Queer Duck is a cruel stereotyping of gay people, and should be shut
>down. The latest episode implies that gay people drug children...
You are right. They should instead use you as the model and imply
that homosexuals throw babies against trees or dumpsters to kill them.
>and
>that they are also a bunch of drug abusers themselves. I'd say that
>IceBox is really screwed up to promote such horrible slander against
>gays. I am complaining about Queer Duck to various gay media-watch
>outlets."
Is thet the same ones you whined to about the Simpsons?
>I suggest that others check out Queer Duck, and send letters of
>complaint to various gay media and activist groups.
>
Why don't you just call Doctor Laura, Zeke? :)
William R. James
lab~rat >:-)
It's called freedom of expression, the same kind of freedom gay
activists want.
lab~rat >:-)
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Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:19:43 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
>Krahlin) wrote:
>
>>I suggest that others check out Queer Duck, and send letters of
>>complaint to various gay media and activist groups.
>
>It's called freedom of expression, the same kind of freedom gay
>activists want.
Wrong. Free speech was never intended to defend slander. Here in the
US we do not allow such hateful portrayals of black people and other
minorities. Sadly, in Amerika we still make the exception when it
comes to anti-gay slurs and presentations. We are one of the few
remaining western Democracies that jealously clutches to its
homophobic agenda.
I think that American free speech is a distortion of what it's
supposed to be...in that it wrongly defends even the most violent of
hate speech. All liberties must have their restrictions, else they
soon lose relevance. The restriciton on free speech should include the
three following rules:
1) No promoting the injury, death, or torture of another person. (As
in: "These faggots should be stoned to death.")
2) No invocation of one's religious beliefs to promote the injury,
death, or torture of another person. (As in: "God says these faggots
should be stoned to death.")
3) No promoting prejudice against a people or person, that is known
to provoke violence or other persecution against them or her/him. (As
in: "These people are faggots.")
Meanwhile (until we earn our freedom as equal-class citizens) I think
we should declare a "Hetero Shame Week", immediately following "Gay
Pride Week"; here in San Francisco and in all other U.S. cities with a
significant lesbian/gay presence. That is...if we don't all get
rounded up first, and tortured in laboratory experiments, or made into
wallets and lamps.
HETERO SHAME WEEK: whereby all public display of hetero affection be
outlawed for that week. Anyone breaking that law would go to jail for
10 days, and be fined $500 (which shall be donated to one or another
les/gay rights organizations). Any hetero who can't afford the steep
fine, or time away from work...ought to heed well the advice to keep
his or her public affections under strict control, for the duration.
See how YOU (heteros) like it!
lab~rat >:-)
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:52:31 -0400, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheese.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:19:43 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
>>Krahlin) wrote:
>>
>>>I suggest that others check out Queer Duck, and send letters of
>>>complaint to various gay media and activist groups.
>>
>>It's called freedom of expression, the same kind of freedom gay
>>activists want.
>
>Wrong. Free speech was never intended to defend slander.
Freedom of expression is freedom of expression. If you don't believe
it, keep your own opinion to yourself, because I'm sure if you look
hard enough you'll find that you've offended someone.
>Here in the
>US we do not allow such hateful portrayals of black people and other
>minorities.
But we have no problem slandering white males (which I am) without a
second thought. In the US we SHOULD allow freedom of expression,
regardless of others perception.
>Sadly, in Amerika we still make the exception when it
>comes to anti-gay slurs and presentations.
Tell that to the drunken Irish, America doesn't seem to have a problem
with that. How about the rednecks? The Chinks? And if you don't
think blacks still catch slurs, you're living in a dream world. Your
tunnel vision seems to be working fine.
>We are one of the few
>remaining western Democracies that jealously clutches to its
>homophobic agenda.
I don't know if that is the motivation, but I would have hopped on
this thread regardless of who the 'downtrodden' was. I have a problem
with fascists that try to limit free expression.
>
>I think that American free speech is a distortion of what it's
>supposed to be...
In your opinion
>in that it wrongly defends even the most violent of
>hate speech.
You hated the duck cartoon. Are you in this category?
>All liberties must have their restrictions,
That's a good one. That's like saying everything free should cost
something.
> else they
>soon lose relevance. The restriciton on free speech should include the
>three following rules:
>
>1) No promoting the injury, death, or torture of another person. (As
>in: "These faggots should be stoned to death.")
>
No, how about anyone who stones faggots to death is held accountable.
>2) No invocation of one's religious beliefs to promote the injury,
>death, or torture of another person. (As in: "God says these faggots
>should be stoned to death.")
>
Religion is a perception. Just words, and gay activists can retaliate
with words of their own. Sound fair?
>3) No promoting prejudice against a people or person, that is known
>to provoke violence or other persecution against them or her/him. (As
>in: "These people are faggots.")
And how do you determine that? Never heard a homosexual refer to one
of his kind as faggot?
>
>Meanwhile (until we earn our freedom as equal-class citizens) I think
>we should declare a "Hetero Shame Week", immediately following "Gay
>Pride Week"
Well, there goes your credibility! Are you trying to get equal rights
and acceptance from a group that you are shaming?
<Antagonistic, immature crap snipped>
Well, you had me going. Now I realize this was just a farce and you
really wanted to share the queer duck with your other self-hating gay
friends. Sorry to waste your time.
BTW Zeke, why do they call it 'gay' if you're pissed off all the time?
Wm James
wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:19:43 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
>Krahlin) wrote:
>
>
>>I suggest that others check out Queer Duck, and send letters of
>>complaint to various gay media and activist groups.
>>
>>
>
>
>It's called freedom of expression, the same kind of freedom gay
>activists want.
>
>
>lab~rat >:-)
They don't want freedom. They already have that. They want
endorsement.
William R. James
Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:52:31 -0400, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheese.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:19:43 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
>>Krahlin) wrote:
>>
>>>I suggest that others check out Queer Duck, and send letters of
>>>complaint to various gay media and activist groups.
>>
>>It's called freedom of expression, the same kind of freedom gay
>>activists want.
>
>Wrong. Free speech was never intended to defend slander. Here in the
>US we do not allow such hateful portrayals of black people and other
>minorities. Sadly, in Amerika we still make the exception when it
>comes to anti-gay slurs and presentations. We are one of the few
>remaining western Democracies that jealously clutches to its
>homophobic agenda.
Wrong again. The KKK frequently rant all they want in public with
police protection. So do the nazis, the NAACP, and a host of others.
All have the same rights. You have the same rights and are entitled
to no more than anyone else.
>I think that American free speech is a distortion of what it's
>supposed to be...in that it wrongly defends even the most violent of
>hate speech. All liberties must have their restrictions, else they
>soon lose relevance. The restriciton on free speech should include the
>three following rules:
>
>1) No promoting the injury, death, or torture of another person. (As
>in: "These faggots should be stoned to death.")
Or as in "the government shouldn't be allowed to <fill in whatever>"?
>2) No invocation of one's religious beliefs to promote the injury,
>death, or torture of another person. (As in: "God says these faggots
>should be stoned to death.")
Or "those killers should be executed"?
>3) No promoting prejudice against a people or person, that is known
>to provoke violence or other persecution against them or her/him. (As
>in: "These people are faggots.")
"Known" by who?
>Meanwhile (until we earn our freedom as equal-class citizens) I think
>we should declare a "Hetero Shame Week", immediately following "Gay
>Pride Week"; here in San Francisco and in all other U.S. cities with a
>significant lesbian/gay presence. That is...if we don't all get
>rounded up first, and tortured in laboratory experiments, or made into
>wallets and lamps.
A wallet made from homo skin? You have got to be kidding? Who wants
a homosexual that close to their butt? :)
>HETERO SHAME WEEK: whereby all public display of hetero affection be
>outlawed for that week. Anyone breaking that law would go to jail for
>10 days, and be fined $500 (which shall be donated to one or another
>les/gay rights organizations). Any hetero who can't afford the steep
>fine, or time away from work...ought to heed well the advice to keep
>his or her public affections under strict control, for the duration.
>See how YOU (heteros) like it!
OK, so the oval office is closed for a week. :)
William R. James
Ralph Snart
Ezekiel J. Krahlin <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:52:31 -0400, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheese.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:19:43 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
> >Krahlin) wrote:
> >
> >>I suggest that others check out Queer Duck, and send letters of
> >>complaint to various gay media and activist groups.
> >
Hey Butt-boy, thanks for showing the way for the 'Queer Duck' cartoons! I
found them very enjoyable.
> ---
> LAVENDER VELVET REVOLUTION!
> Disgusted with our choices for next President?
> Write me in: Ezekiel J. Krahlin, gay activist,
> homeless and civil rights advocate. To make
> an informed decision about me, peruse my website:
> http://surf.to/gaybible
I'm straight, white and southern, and proud of it. I'm voting for Buchanan.
'nuff said.
Stan Rothwell
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:00:49 GMT, "Ralph Snart"
> <rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm straight, white and southern, and proud of it.
>
> left, I fear.
Not like those living the healthy lifestyles of promiscuous
gay males, right?
Stan Rothwell
"alternative lifestyle" is something to be endorsed by all...
"Ralph Snart" <rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote in message
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> Now, now, take your Prozac and don't forget your anger management courses.
Stan Rothwell
> Nice comeback. Methinks that our resident Lavender mafia member is very
> angry at the world...
The miltant gays can't decide what they want. They want to trash
straight people solely because they're not dysfunctional like them
one minute, and the next minute they want to be accepted by the
same people they just dissed. Funny, but most of them can't figure
out why the rest of us are no longer as sympathetic to their condition
as we may have been at one time...
> Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:8sthmi$jbt$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net...
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>I'm straight, white and southern, and proud of it.
That makes you a fool. Enjoy what remains of your life; not many days
left, I fear.
>I'm voting for Buchanan.
Of course you are. That is why it's so easy to identify you
Nazis...you are proud of it, believing you'll get away with it.
Actually, God is only giving you and your ilk just enough rope by
which to hang yourselves.
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THE NEW PASSOVER HAS BEGUN
© 2000 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
(Jehovah's Queer Witness)
There is a phenomenon I predicted a couple of years ago, in
the Internet newsgroups, that I call the "New Passover". This
vision revealed God (or "Nature") avenging gay people by
slaying the firstborn of every homophobic parent. (The
original Passover saw the Angel of Death slaughter the
firstborn of every Egyptian family, in order to free the
Hebrews.) It has only dawned on me a few days ago, that this
New Passover is already under way: ravaging the troubled
nations of Africa. These are all areas rife with gay hatred.
This form of AIDS only strikes heteros...and only those who
stubbornly hold onto their homophobia unto the last breath.
How (you might ask) could a virus distinguish between gay
haters and gay friends? Of course, if you are spiritual in
nature, like myself, the answer is easy: "God can do
anything". However, there are also those who demand a
scientific explanation, which I now attempt:
There may be a genetic tendency toward stupidity. And it is
stupid folk who are more likely to believe the homophobic
brainwash of their churches, synagogues, mosques and covens.
Thus, a virus evolves that attacks only the stupid, who are
also heterosexual.
While AIDS ravaged gay people, the hetero majority for the
most part thought: "Let 'em die, those faggots deserve it
anyway"...never dreaming for one moment, that perhaps their
karma would come back to haunt them. And that is exactly what
has started to happen. In a few months, or even weeks, Hetero
AIDS will reach the shores of Asia, Europe, and finally,
Amerika...where it will sweep across the entire populace,
decimating at least 35% of the entire hetero population.
Certain gay activists such as Cleve Jones, sound alarmed and
disgusted at the lack of support coming from gay people, for
the crisis of AIDS in South Africa and other non-white areas.
(See POZ magazine, Sept. 2000, "Keeping Up With The Jones",
pg. 64.) But this has nothing to do with skin color, and
everything to do with extreme, homophobic attitudes among many
cultures afflicted with run-away AIDS. Why should we now lift
a finger to help these folks, when they merely sat back and
laughed at us, while AIDS ravaged our finest and most
loved? Why not let Gaia do Her cleansing of humanity,
rather than slow down the process of eliminating our enemies?
Fine with me, if you want to help educate South Africa about
AIDS prevention, Mr. Jones (et al). But please, don't lay an
insincere guilt trip on your gay brothers! Maybe we're too
exhausted fighting our own enormously painful battles against
Amerika's homophobic sanctions (not the least of which was
enacted by our first "gay-friendly" president, Clinton, who
signed DOMA, the infamous "Defense of Marriage Act"). It's all
well and good for Slick Willy to denounce the right wing's
homophobia. But what about his own, I ask? Maybe we already
know this: Any homophobe we assist to recovery and a long
life, will surely continue to flagrantly bash us once he's
back on his feet...thus only makes our chances for
peaceful coexistence with heteros that much more tenuous.
Let 'em die, I say. And the nicest part of all this, is that
Hetero AIDS will likely evolve into an airborn virus, that
God's angels may perform their cleansing tasks that much more
quickly. Let us not forget that most homophobes are also
child abusers, wife beaters, rapists, and war mongers. So
celebrate your "New Passover", and thank your deity (whoever
she or he may be), for finally liberating us long-suffering
and devoted gay men and women. Rejoice, for soon comes "New
Hanukkah"!
There also remains this massive problem among African Amerikan
churches: that so many of them still preach hatred of gay
people. Well, I'm not asking you blacks to help "Whitey"; and
I don't blame you for not doing so. However, please admit that
you have your own brothers and sisters of color who are indeed
homosexual! For Christ's sake, stop harassing and villifying
them: extend, finally, open arms and an open heart. For they
are Family, too. Look at it this way: Does the black community
really want to become cursed for eternity, with the ugly stain
of gay hatred on their otherwise-noble history of struggles
and liberation? I think not. So get the lead out of your
collective black asses, and do the right thing.
You may read my own colorful tale about this New Passover
here:
The Mask of Horus
http://netjunk.com/users/gaybible/write/horus.htm
Written in 1997, it is a sci-fi tale inspired by a vision of
Horus, also described in the story.
---finis
Ralph Snart
Ezekiel J. Krahlin <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Ralph Snart
angry at the world...
Stan Rothwell <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ezekiel J. Krahlin" <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:39f243c5...@news.cis.dfn.de...
> > On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:00:49 GMT, "Ralph Snart"
> > <rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I'm straight, white and southern, and proud of it.
> >
> > That makes you a fool. Enjoy what remains of your life; not many days
> > left, I fear.
>
Wm James
<rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>Nice comeback. Methinks that our resident Lavender mafia member is very
>angry at the world...
You would be bitter too after all that sctratching itches thay wont
clear up. Of maybe Zeke's hampster ran away from home. :)
William R. James
Ralph Snart
Wm James <wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 03:30:57 GMT, "Ralph Snart"
> <rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>
> >Nice comeback. Methinks that our resident Lavender mafia member is very
> >angry at the world...
>
> clear up. Of maybe Zeke's hampster ran away from home. :)
>
> William R. James
>
Gerbils. Use the right species. Hamsters don't respond to the name
Raggot (for those who don't know, just type the word 'Raggot' into your
search engin and follow the wonderful world of internet gay sex....).
Wm James
<rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>
>Wm James <wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote in message
>news:q3m5vs8uilfj6hqb4...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 03:30:57 GMT, "Ralph Snart"
>> <rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Nice comeback. Methinks that our resident Lavender mafia member is very
>> >angry at the world...
>>
>> You would be bitter too after all that sctratching itches thay wont
>> clear up. Of maybe Zeke's hampster ran away from home. :)
>>
>> William R. James
>>
>
> Gerbils. Use the right species. Hamsters don't respond to the name
>Raggot (for those who don't know, just type the word 'Raggot' into your
>search engin and follow the wonderful world of internet gay sex....).
>
"The Rectal Rodent" according to one page! :)
William R. James
Ralph Snart
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 08:44:30 -0400, "Ralph Snart"
> <rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Wm James <wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote in message
> >news:q3m5vs8uilfj6hqb4...@4ax.com...
> >> <rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Nice comeback. Methinks that our resident Lavender mafia member is
very
> >> >angry at the world...
> >>
> >> clear up. Of maybe Zeke's hampster ran away from home. :)
> >>
> >> William R. James
> >>
> >
> > Gerbils. Use the right species. Hamsters don't respond to the name
> >Raggot (for those who don't know, just type the word 'Raggot' into your
> >search engin and follow the wonderful world of internet gay sex....).
> >
>
> "The Rectal Rodent" according to one page! :)
>
> William R. James
>
Subj: Raggot, the flying gerbil.
'Actual article from the L.A. Times'
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"In retrospect, lighting the match was my big mistake. But I was only trying
to retrieve the gerbil," Eric Tomaszewski,and his homosexual partner Andrew
'Kiki' Farnum, had been admitted for emergency treatment after a felching
session had gone seriously wrong. "I pushed a cardboard tube up into his
rectum and slipped 'raggot', our gerbil, in," he explained. "As usual, Kiki
shouted 'ARMAGEDDON!,' my cue that he'd had enough. I tried to retrieve
Raggot but he wouldn't come out again, so I peered into the tube and struck
a match, thinking the light might attract him." At a hushed press
conference, a hospital spokesman described what happened next. "The match
ignited a pocket of intestinal gas and a flame shot out of the tubing,
igniting Mr. Tomaszewski's hair and severely burning his face. It also set
fire to the gerbil's fur and whiskers which in turn ignited a larger pocket
of gas further up the intestine, propelling the rodent out of the tubing
like a cannonball." Tomaszewski suffered second degree burns and a broken
nose from the impact of the gerbil, while Farnum suffered first and second
degree burns to his anus and lower intestinal tract.
Top Ten Scariest Things About This Story:
10.) "I pushed the cardboard tube up his rectum..." Ouch!!!
9.) "So I peered into the tube..."Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I'm sorry,
but that's like looking through a telescope into hell. I'd rather use
binoculars to stare at the sun.
8.) That poor gerbil (who obviously suffers from low self-esteem) being shot
out of that guy's anus like 'Rocky the Flying Squirrel' on Rocky &
Bullwinkle.
7.) Suffering a broken nose from a grebil being launched out of someone's
anus. I'm just guessing, but I seriously doubt the said gerbil was
spring-time fresh after his little journey into Kiki's tunnel of love.
6.) People walking around with these volcanic-like pockets of gas in their
rectums.
5.) People who do this kind of thing and then admit what they were doing
when taken to the emergency room. Sorry, but I think I would have made up a
story about a gang of roving, pyromaniac, anal sex-feinds breakind into my
house and sodomizing me with a charcoal lighter before I admitted the truth.
Call me old-fashioned, but I just can't imagine looking at the doctor and
saying, "Well doc, it's like this. See we have this gerbil named Raggot and
we took this cardboard tube..."
4.) "First and second degree burns to the anus." Wouldn't this make the
burning itch and discomfort of hemmoroids a welcome relief? How does one
ever take a healthy poop after something like this? And the smell of burning
anus must be in the top five most horrible scents on the face of God's green
earth.
3.) People named 'Kiki', which is obviously a Polynesian word for: "Idiotic
white men who insert rodents up their butts."
2.) What kind of hospital would hold a press conference on this?
1.) This happened in Salt Lake City. What kind of people are those Mormons?
I'm starting to get a whole new image of the Osmond family.
Wm James
<rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
Actually, I smell a rat. :)
In order for such an explosion to occur the gas must be mixed with
oxygen.
William . James
Dougie McKinnon
Ralph Snart wrote:
> Subj: Raggot, the flying gerbil.
>
> 'Actual article from the L.A. Times'
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> "In retrospect, lighting the match was my big mistake. But I was only trying
> to retrieve the gerbil," Eric Tomaszewski,and his homosexual partner Andrew
> 'Kiki' Farnum, had been admitted for emergency treatment after a felching
> session had gone seriously wrong. "I pushed a cardboard tube up into his
> rectum and slipped 'raggot', our gerbil, in," he explained. "As usual, Kiki
> shouted 'ARMAGEDDON!,' my cue that he'd had enough. I tried to retrieve
> Raggot but he wouldn't come out again, so I peered into the tube and struck
> a match, thinking the light might attract him." At a hushed press
> conference, a hospital spokesman described what happened next. "The match
> ignited a pocket of intestinal gas and a flame shot out of the tubing,
> igniting Mr. Tomaszewski's hair and severely burning his face. It also set
> fire to the gerbil's fur and whiskers which in turn ignited a larger pocket
> of gas further up the intestine, propelling the rodent out of the tubing
> like a cannonball." Tomaszewski suffered second degree burns and a broken
> nose from the impact of the gerbil, while Farnum suffered first and second
> degree burns to his anus and lower intestinal tract.
>
> Top Ten Scariest Things About This Story:
1) It isn't true.
2 -10) as above.
See:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/science/urbanlegends/library/blbyol4.htm
Ralph Snart
story, doesn't it?
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Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Not like those living the healthy lifestyles of promiscuous
>gay males, right?
Most gays are *not promiscuous.
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>Nice comeback.
It was just a stereotyped response of a bigot.
>Methinks that our resident Lavender mafia member is very
>angry at the world...
Quite correct. My anger is righteous, and I wield my sword to honor
God, who is Our Vindicator.
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>Subj: Raggot, the flying gerbil.
There is not one true case of anyone putting any kind of rodent up his
or her rectum. That is just another ugly rumor started by gay haters
who are unhappy with their own hetero-horrible lives.
Of all the pornography offers I receive in my e-mailboxes, not one
from gay groups involves bestiality. But I *do receive plenty of
hetero-geared porno ads about ladies doing it with a donkey or a big
dog. You're the perverts, you foul hets! Don't blame us gays for your
own wickedness, which also includes rape, wife-beating, pedophilia and
child-abuse.
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Zecky's just worked up because he can't convince the rest of us that his
>"alternative lifestyle" is something to be endorsed by all...
There will come a day--and very soon--that you and many others will
live in terror of gay people. So have your laugh now, before all your
"fun" (as perverted as it is) comes to an end. God is on *our side,
not yours...and is about to vindicate all gay people, worldwide.
Ralph Snart
Ezekiel J. Krahlin <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:39f4ff22...@news.cis.dfn.de...
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:37:23 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
> <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Zecky's just worked up because he can't convince the rest of us that his
> >"alternative lifestyle" is something to be endorsed by all...
>
> There will come a day--and very soon--that you and many others will
> live in terror of gay people. So have your laugh now, before all your
> "fun" (as perverted as it is) comes to an end. God is on *our side,
> not yours...and is about to vindicate all gay people, worldwide.
>
>
>>Not like those living the healthy lifestyles of promiscuous
>>gay males, right?
>Most gays are *not promiscuous.
_____________
>>Methinks that our resident Lavender mafia member is very
>>angry at the world...
>Quite correct. My anger is righteous, and I wield my sword to honor
>God, who is Our Vindicator.
_____________
>>Subj: Raggot, the flying gerbil.
>There is not one true case of anyone putting any kind of rodent up his
>or her rectum. That is just another ugly rumor started by gay haters
>who are unhappy with their own hetero-horrible lives.
>Of all the pornography offers I receive in my e-mailboxes, not one
>from gay groups involves bestiality. But I *do receive plenty of
>hetero-geared porno ads about ladies doing it with a donkey or a big
>dog. You're the perverts, you foul hets! Don't blame us gays for your
>own wickedness, which also includes rape, wife-beating, pedophilia and
>child-abuse.
______________
>LAVENDER VELVET REVOLUTION!
>Disgusted with our choices for next President?
>Write me in: Ezekiel J. Krahlin, gay activist,
>homeless and civil rights advocate. To make
>an informed decision about me, peruse my website:
______________
Call Zecky @ 1-800-BUTT-SLAM
Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 03:50:35 GMT, "Ralph Snart"
><rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>
>>Subj: Raggot, the flying gerbil.
>
>There is not one true case of anyone putting any kind of rodent up his
>or her rectum. That is just another ugly rumor started by gay haters
>who are unhappy with their own hetero-horrible lives.
>
>Of all the pornography offers I receive in my e-mailboxes, not one
>from gay groups involves bestiality. But I *do receive plenty of
>hetero-geared porno ads about ladies doing it with a donkey or a big
>dog. You're the perverts, you foul hets! Don't blame us gays for your
>own wickedness, which also includes rape, wife-beating, pedophilia and
>child-abuse.
I've never heard of the National Man Girl Love Association. Or the
National Woman Boy Love Association. Nor do we see any "hetero pride"
freak show parades.
William R. James
Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 03:30:57 GMT, "Ralph Snart"
><rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>
>>Nice comeback.
>
>It was just a stereotyped response of a bigot.
>
>>Methinks that our resident Lavender mafia member is very
>>angry at the world...
>
>Quite correct. My anger is righteous, and I wield my sword to honor
>God, who is Our Vindicator.
Another good reason for atheism. :)
William R. James
Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 19:02:36 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
><roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>Not like those living the healthy lifestyles of promiscuous
>>gay males, right?
>
>Most gays are *not promiscuous.
An even smaller percentage of heterosexual males are.
With so many more heterosexuals than homosexuals, why is it that we
see so many "meeting places" for homosexual anononous "encounters" and
virtually none for heterosexuals? One Memphis mall has had dozens of
arrests of homosexuals who have attempted to take over the mens room
for it's 'parties'. The location was listed on a webpage with many
more. See if you can find a single example of that sort of thing
being done by heterosexuals.
William R. James
Wm James
You should have read his posts about "the Simpsons" TV show. Or his
posts about killing babies. Zeke is an endless source of
entertainment.
William R. James
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:17:46 GMT, "Ralph Snart"
<rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>Just a few sniplets of Zecky's hissy fits....
>
>Ezekiel J. Krahlin <ezek...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:39f4ff22...@news.cis.dfn.de...
>> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:37:23 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
>> <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Zecky's just worked up because he can't convince the rest of us that his
>> >"alternative lifestyle" is something to be endorsed by all...
>>
>> There will come a day--and very soon--that you and many others will
>> live in terror of gay people. So have your laugh now, before all your
>> "fun" (as perverted as it is) comes to an end. God is on *our side,
>> not yours...and is about to vindicate all gay people, worldwide.
>>
>>
>>>Not like those living the healthy lifestyles of promiscuous
>>>gay males, right?
>
>>Most gays are *not promiscuous.
>_____________
>
>>>Methinks that our resident Lavender mafia member is very
>>>angry at the world...
>
>>Quite correct. My anger is righteous, and I wield my sword to honor
>>God, who is Our Vindicator.
>
>_____________
>
>>>Subj: Raggot, the flying gerbil.
>
>>There is not one true case of anyone putting any kind of rodent up his
>>or her rectum. That is just another ugly rumor started by gay haters
>>who are unhappy with their own hetero-horrible lives.
>
>>Of all the pornography offers I receive in my e-mailboxes, not one
>>from gay groups involves bestiality. But I *do receive plenty of
>>hetero-geared porno ads about ladies doing it with a donkey or a big
>>dog. You're the perverts, you foul hets! Don't blame us gays for your
>>own wickedness, which also includes rape, wife-beating, pedophilia and
>>child-abuse.
>______________
>
>>LAVENDER VELVET REVOLUTION!
>>Disgusted with our choices for next President?
>>Write me in: Ezekiel J. Krahlin, gay activist,
>>homeless and civil rights advocate. To make
>>an informed decision about me, peruse my website:
>
jrbi...@my-deja.com
Are you saying that there is no such thing as homosexual rape, domestic
abuse and violence in homosexual relationships? John Wayne Gacy was an
admitted homosexual who maintained a straight exterior. Ever heard the
term "twinks" (used to refer to underage males in the homosexual
community)?
Now don't even think I'm blaming gays for the evils of the world. BUT
don't even try to make it seem like gays are excluded from the behaviors
either.
Now for all the heteros in this thread:
Something always makes me wonder: In most states there are laws on the
books saying that anyone who propositions, solicits or engages in sexual
activity in a public place is guilty of (insert level of crime here).
In California, its a misdemeanor. Now why is it the police will only
bust gays for said activity while letting straights off the hook either
looking the other way or giving some sort of lecture?
The other thing: Whatever one chooses to do in the privacy of their
homes and lives is their own business. I would no more thrust my views
on my heterosexuality on the gay community than I am willing to have gay
views thrust upon me.
To Zeke in particular: Get a life. Grow a thicker skin and move on.
There are things every creed, nationality, religion, race, lifestyle can
find offensive in this world. Sadly too many of us can't get past their
own insecurities and learn to ignore crap like this.
Have a happy.
JRB
>
Don't blame us gays for your
> own wickedness, which also includes rape, wife-beating, pedophilia and
> child-abuse.
>
> ---
> LAVENDER VELVET REVOLUTION!
> Disgusted with our choices for next President?
> Write me in: Ezekiel J. Krahlin, gay activist,
> homeless and civil rights advocate. To make
> an informed decision about me, peruse my website:
> http://surf.to/gaybible
>
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Before you buy.
Wm James
>Bad examples:
>
>Are you saying that there is no such thing as homosexual rape, domestic
>abuse and violence in homosexual relationships? John Wayne Gacy was an
>admitted homosexual who maintained a straight exterior. Ever heard the
>term "twinks" (used to refer to underage males in the homosexual
>community)?
>
>Now don't even think I'm blaming gays for the evils of the world. BUT
>don't even try to make it seem like gays are excluded from the behaviors
>either.
>
>Now for all the heteros in this thread:
>
>Something always makes me wonder: In most states there are laws on the
>books saying that anyone who propositions, solicits or engages in sexual
>activity in a public place is guilty of (insert level of crime here).
>In California, its a misdemeanor. Now why is it the police will only
>bust gays for said activity while letting straights off the hook either
>looking the other way or giving some sort of lecture?
Because when a heterosexual propositions it is:
a) On the street where the law is enforced. Womens jails are full of
prostitutes and their johns get arrested as well. Some cities even
publish their names and photos.
b) In a bar or some other location which is designed for social
interaction. You don't see it in public toilets or disney world. No
one just trying to take their child to potty in the mall has to expose
the kid to the sexual activities of heterosexuals.
>The other thing: Whatever one chooses to do in the privacy of their
>homes and lives is their own business. I would no more thrust my views
>on my heterosexuality on the gay community than I am willing to have gay
>views thrust upon me.
I agree 100%. It's a free country and whatever consenting adults
choose to do in their homes is their own business. That's not enough
for some, however.
>To Zeke in particular: Get a life. Grow a thicker skin and move on.
>There are things every creed, nationality, religion, race, lifestyle can
>find offensive in this world. Sadly too many of us can't get past their
>own insecurities and learn to ignore crap like this.
>
>Have a happy.
>
>JRB
Zeke is a net-masochist. He seems to crave abusive comments. :)
William R. James
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>You should have read his posts about "the Simpsons" TV show. Or his
>posts about killing babies. Zeke is an endless source of
>entertainment.
Though an endless source of Truth, as well. This is why I get under
your skin so much.
Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:58:48 -0500, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>You should have read his posts about "the Simpsons" TV show. Or his
>>posts about killing babies. Zeke is an endless source of
>>entertainment.
>
>Though an endless source of Truth, as well. This is why I get under
>your skin so much.
In case you haven't noticed, between the two of us here, I'm the one
enjoing the show. :)
William R. James
Stan Rothwell
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 07:19:43 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
> Krahlin) wrote:
>
> >At the following web page is the new "Queer Duck" animated series:
> >
> > http://www.icebox.com/shows/show_175/show_frameset.asp
> >
> >(Queer Duck is part of the "Icebox Originals" animation series.) I am
> >very offended by this show, and wrote to their webmaster:
> >
> >"Queer Duck is a cruel stereotyping of gay people, and should be shut
> >down. The latest episode implies that gay people drug children...
>
> You are right. They should instead use you as the model and imply
> that homosexuals throw babies against trees or dumpsters to kill them.
>
> >and
> >that they are also a bunch of drug abusers themselves. I'd say that
> >IceBox is really screwed up to promote such horrible slander against
> >gays. I am complaining about Queer Duck to various gay media-watch
> >outlets."
>
> Is thet the same ones you whined to about the Simpsons?
Ooh, wait till Zecky sees the "South Park" episode where
Cartman gets the other kids to attend a NAMBLA
"get-together"... ROTFLMAO-TIH!!!! :Oo
Stan
Stan Rothwell
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:00:49 GMT, "Ralph Snart"
> <rsn...@logicsouth.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm straight, white and southern, and proud of it.
>
> That makes you a fool. Enjoy what remains of your life; not many days
> left, I fear.
So you're threatening him?
> >I'm voting for Buchanan.
>
> Of course you are. That is why it's so easy to identify you
> Nazis...you are proud of it, believing you'll get away with it.
Sorry if I missed something, but I don't ever recall
Ralph threatening to kill anyone, or blow up anything
if his demands weren't met.
Now WHAT were you saying about Nazis, Zecky???
Stan Rothwell
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:37:23 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
> <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >Zecky's just worked up because he can't convince the rest of us that his
> >"alternative lifestyle" is something to be endorsed by all...
>
> There will come a day--and very soon--that you and many others will
> live in terror of gay people.
You planning to go around biting people, Zecky???
Stan Rothwell
"Wm James" <wrj...@kudzucountry.com>
> They don't want freedom. They already have that.
> They want endorsement.
UNCONDITIONAL endorsement, and by
the same people they treat with ridicule and
contempt, as well...
Wm James
I laughed so hard watching that I was gasping for air. That was the
funniest thing I have seen on TV since Dr. Strangelove. Had Zeke seen
it, he would be whining quite loud over it.
William R. James
jrbi...@my-deja.com
> >Something always makes me wonder: In most states there are laws on
the
> >books saying that anyone who propositions, solicits or engages in
sexual
> >activity in a public place is guilty of (insert level of crime here).
> >In California, its a misdemeanor. Now why is it the police will only
> >bust gays for said activity while letting straights off the hook
either
> >looking the other way or giving some sort of lecture?
>
> Because when a heterosexual propositions it is:
> a) On the street where the law is enforced. Womens jails are full of
> prostitutes and their johns get arrested as well. Some cities even
> publish their names and photos.
>
> b) In a bar or some other location which is designed for social
> interaction. You don't see it in public toilets or disney world. No
> one just trying to take their child to potty in the mall has to expose
> the kid to the sexual activities of heterosexuals.
>
>
Ahh...but police do go out of their way to post undercover's in gay bars
which are specifically places of gay social interaction, then bust gays
who approach them (essentially the same activity as goes on betwenn
heterosexuals in singles bars...when was the last time one of them was
raided).
You're right about the restrooms....unfortunately I have movies, tv and
various music artists that are more than willing to expose my kid to
hetrosexual activity....
Lets face it....its still acceptable to discriminate, bash, slur or
whatever else against gays.
Have a happy!
JRB
G*rd*n
| At the following web page is the new "Queer Duck" animated series:
|
| http://www.icebox.com/shows/show_175/show_frameset.asp
|
| (Queer Duck is part of the "Icebox Originals" animation series.) I am
| very offended by this show, and wrote to their webmaster:
|
| "Queer Duck is a cruel stereotyping of gay people, and should be shut
| that they are also a bunch of drug abusers themselves. I'd say that
| IceBox is really screwed up to promote such horrible slander against
| gays. I am complaining about Queer Duck to various gay media-watch
| outlets."
|
| complaint to various gay media and activist groups.
It's just humor. And now you've elicited the frighful "free
speech" kneejerk chorus, like being kicked to death on a desert
island by a thousand inflatable Rockette moron robots. I'm
surprised the Net is still standing. What'd you want to do
that for? Trolling, by any chance?
But seriously, folks, check out "Queer Duck" and also "Hard
Drinkin' Lincoln" to get _really_ offended.
Wm James
>
>
>> >Something always makes me wonder: In most states there are laws on
>the
>> >books saying that anyone who propositions, solicits or engages in
>sexual
>> >activity in a public place is guilty of (insert level of crime here).
>> >In California, its a misdemeanor. Now why is it the police will only
>> >bust gays for said activity while letting straights off the hook
>either
>> >looking the other way or giving some sort of lecture?
>>
>> Because when a heterosexual propositions it is:
>> a) On the street where the law is enforced. Womens jails are full of
>> prostitutes and their johns get arrested as well. Some cities even
>> publish their names and photos.
>>
>> b) In a bar or some other location which is designed for social
>> interaction. You don't see it in public toilets or disney world. No
>> one just trying to take their child to potty in the mall has to expose
>> the kid to the sexual activities of heterosexuals.
>>
>>
>
>Ahh...but police do go out of their way to post undercover's in gay bars
>which are specifically places of gay social interaction, then bust gays
>who approach them (essentially the same activity as goes on betwenn
>heterosexuals in singles bars...when was the last time one of them was
>raided).
Are you kidding? Strip joints get raided frequently. And no police
officer is going to arrest a guy for making a pass of suggestive
comment to another guy in a homosexual bar. Offering money for sex,
perhaps. Having sex in the restroom, sure.
I worked on electronic equipment for quite a few years and made a
quite few service calls to a homo bar. I have to admit that I was
somewhat surprised at how normal it appeared at first and that the
owner was a married grandfather. However they had had to move a large
stack of dildos from the equipment for me to work on it. I have never
encountered anything like that in a normal bar. And I didn't ask or
stick around to find out what they do with them.
>You're right about the restrooms....unfortunately I have movies, tv and
>various music artists that are more than willing to expose my kid to
>hetrosexual activity....
I agree that the media is quick to produce and distribute junk. But
hetero activities are normal. I know that term makes some people's
blood biol, but it's the only way to say it. People who have sex with
their own gender, with animals, with the dead, or with children are
not normal. They shouldn't expect to be considered such any more than
anyone else who does things that are unusual. If you order anchovies
on your pizza you will get odd looks and comments. If guy wears a
dress of a woman shaves her head the same thing applies. If you keep
a pet alligator, or have a pierced eyeball, ditto. If being
considered normal means that much to you then you have to avoid
looking abnormal. Hey, that's life. If you prefer to be yourself and
you don't happen to be normal, get used to the fact that people will
look at you funny and even say things.
>Lets face it....its still acceptable to discriminate, bash, slur or
>whatever else against gays.
>
>Have a happy!
>
>JRB
Nonsense. Homosexuals have the same rights and protection under the
law as anyone else. Perhaps you missed the fact that all three of
Shepard's killers are in prison and two are death row. However, it is
still somewhat acceptable for people to choose who they associate
with. Some would prefer that freedom be taken to protect their
feelings.
William R. James
jrbi...@my-deja.com
> Are you kidding? Strip joints get raided frequently. And no police
> officer is going to arrest a guy for making a pass of suggestive
> comment to another guy in a homosexual bar. Offering money for sex,
> perhaps. Having sex in the restroom, sure.
>
I would ask if you are kidding. I suggest you read a book called titled
"Entrapped" by Edward Eugene Baskett. It tells the story of a gay man
arrested and tried for "solicitation of a sexual act" from an undercover
police officer (in this case solicitation does not mean for money and
the way the California Penal Code is written also makes no mention of
money only the offer of sexual activity).
I also have a friend who agreed to meet an individual he met over the
internet. The relationship started as a series of e-mails and an invite
to a face-to-face meet. During the course of said meet, no activity
took place although there was a discussion of preferences and a possible
future encounter. As the two were preparing to leave the place (an
isolated park with nobody else present), 5 cops in camoflage outfits,
guns drawn arrested my friend. The whole episode had been a set up from
shortly after the e-mails had started (the first e-mails came from
another gay man. The place of business the other guy worked for
monitored e-mail and reported the set-up of the meet to the police.)
Lastly, I have friends in the law enforcement community that have no
problems telling me that they will indeed go out of their way to bust
homosexuals for mere solicitation because "its just not natural". They
will also tell you that heteros caught in the act will be told to move
on, maybe lectured unless one of the parties is underage. Strip joints
are not raided unless there is a report of illegal activity taking place
either from a patron or from one of the state regulatory agencies.
Again, police will post undercovers in homosexual bars as part of vice
operations and will bust anyone approaching and offering sexual
activity.
This is one topic I had to do a term paper as part of a sociology
course. So I have done some pretty deep research into the subject.
Have a happy.
Wm James
>In article <4vlhvss7p1f57v9ll...@4ax.com>,
> wrj...@kudzucountry.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:46:25 GMT, jrbi...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>
>> Are you kidding? Strip joints get raided frequently. And no police
>> officer is going to arrest a guy for making a pass of suggestive
>> comment to another guy in a homosexual bar. Offering money for sex,
>> perhaps. Having sex in the restroom, sure.
>>
>
>I would ask if you are kidding. I suggest you read a book called titled
>"Entrapped" by Edward Eugene Baskett. It tells the story of a gay man
>arrested and tried for "solicitation of a sexual act" from an undercover
>police officer (in this case solicitation does not mean for money and
>the way the California Penal Code is written also makes no mention of
>money only the offer of sexual activity).
And where did it occur? In a bar? On the street?
>I also have a friend who agreed to meet an individual he met over the
>internet. The relationship started as a series of e-mails and an invite
>to a face-to-face meet. During the course of said meet, no activity
>took place although there was a discussion of preferences and a possible
>future encounter. As the two were preparing to leave the place (an
>isolated park with nobody else present), 5 cops in camoflage outfits,
>guns drawn arrested my friend. The whole episode had been a set up from
>shortly after the e-mails had started (the first e-mails came from
>another gay man. The place of business the other guy worked for
>monitored e-mail and reported the set-up of the meet to the police.)
I strongly suspect your friend is neglecting to mention a detail or
two. Everyone arrested seems to have a sililar story regardless of
the crime.
>Lastly, I have friends in the law enforcement community that have no
>problems telling me that they will indeed go out of their way to bust
>homosexuals for mere solicitation because "its just not natural". They
>will also tell you that heteros caught in the act will be told to move
>on, maybe lectured unless one of the parties is underage. Strip joints
>are not raided unless there is a report of illegal activity taking place
>either from a patron or from one of the state regulatory agencies.
>Again, police will post undercovers in homosexual bars as part of vice
>operations and will bust anyone approaching and offering sexual
>activity.
I take it you don't live in the bible belt. The strip joints in
Tennessee are regular news items. They get raided every election
season.
>This is one topic I had to do a term paper as part of a sociology
>course. So I have done some pretty deep research into the subject.
>
>Have a happy.
>
>JRB
Research from a neutral standpoint.
William R. James
T...@sky.net
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:50:33 GMT, jrbi...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>>In article <4vlhvss7p1f57v9ll...@4ax.com>,
>> wrj...@kudzucountry.com wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:46:25 GMT, jrbi...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> Are you kidding? Strip joints get raided frequently. And no police
>>> officer is going to arrest a guy for making a pass of suggestive
>>> comment to another guy in a homosexual bar. Offering money for sex,
>>> perhaps. Having sex in the restroom, sure.
>>>
>>
>>Lastly, I have friends in the law enforcement community that have no
>>problems telling me that they will indeed go out of their way to bust
>>homosexuals for mere solicitation because "its just not natural". They
>>will also tell you that heteros caught in the act will be told to move
>>on, maybe lectured unless one of the parties is underage. Strip joints
>>are not raided unless there is a report of illegal activity taking place
>>either from a patron or from one of the state regulatory agencies.
>>Again, police will post undercovers in homosexual bars as part of vice
>>operations and will bust anyone approaching and offering sexual
>>activity.
>
>I take it you don't live in the bible belt. The strip joints in
>Tennessee are regular news items. They get raided every election
>season.
And people probably get busted there for just getting a hardon!
But it's o.k. to marry your daughter there though!
T...@sky.net
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:37:23 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
><roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>Zecky's just worked up because he can't convince the rest of us that his
>>"alternative lifestyle" is something to be endorsed by all...
>
>There will come a day--and very soon--that you and many others will
>live in terror of gay people.
Hell I'm living in fear of them NOW. They are the one's doing the
most spreading of aids.
>So have your laugh now, before all your
>"fun" (as perverted as it is) comes to an end. God is on *our side,
>not yours...and is about to vindicate all gay people, worldwide.
You wish fudgepacker!
>LAVENDER VELVET REVOLUTION!
>Disgusted with our choices for next President?
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Wm James
You watch too much TV.
William R. James
Wm James
>On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 04:00:30 GMT, ezek...@my-deja.com (Ezekiel J.
>Krahlin) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:37:23 -0400, "Stan Rothwell"
>><roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Zecky's just worked up because he can't convince the rest of us that his
>>>"alternative lifestyle" is something to be endorsed by all...
>>
>>There will come a day--and very soon--that you and many others will
>>live in terror of gay people.
>
> Hell I'm living in fear of them NOW. They are the one's doing the
>most spreading of aids.
>
>>So have your laugh now, before all your
>>"fun" (as perverted as it is) comes to an end. God is on *our side,
>>not yours...and is about to vindicate all gay people, worldwide.
>
> You wish fudgepacker!
Do a napster search for "Pinkard and Bowden" find the song
"Fudgepackers is Disquise". It's funny.
William R. James
Stan Rothwell
<jrbi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8t9u60$ubr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
God forbid they get the diea that heterosexuality is acceptable...
> Lets face it....its still acceptable to discriminate, bash, slur or
> whatever else against gays.
You throw those in all in one pot, as if they were
equally heinous. Perhaps you don't realize that
we have a First Amendment that gives us the right
to criticize others, even homosexuals...
andro...@my-deja.com
use the same kind of low humor in all their shows especially Mr.Wong.
I think they do it on purpose to get a buzz going.
I recently saw an awesome website, if you like flash cartoons
it's
andro...@my-deja.com
Wm James
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jrbi...@my-deja.com
"Stan Rothwell" <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > You're right about the restrooms....unfortunately I have movies, tv
and
> > various music artists that are more than willing to expose my kid to
> > hetrosexual activity....
>
> God forbid they get the diea that heterosexuality is acceptable...
>
> > Lets face it....its still acceptable to discriminate, bash, slur or
> > whatever else against gays.
>
> You throw those in all in one pot, as if they were
> equally heinous. Perhaps you don't realize that
> we have a First Amendment that gives us the right
> to criticize others, even homosexuals...
>
Nope, got no problem with the acceptability that heterosexuality; what
I do have a problem with is movies aimed at children that feature nudity
and sexual activity. Besides, the point wasn't the acceptability of
either lifestyle but the exposure to sexual activity.
Thats right we do have a First Amendment that give us the right to
criticize. But...how acceptable in today's society is to use nigger,
spook, chink, kike, wop, nipperhead, zipperhead, junglebunny or any
other myriad racist slurs? Not at all. However, we still find it okey
dokey to use fag, turd burglar, bone smoker, queer and any other slur we
want against the homosexual community. And when was the last time you
saw a group like the KKK at a black funeral carrying signs and saying
the nigger got what he deserved? But what images were we presented with
at Matthew Shepards funeral? The Christian whackos carrying the signs
and shouting such nice things as Matthew Shepard burns in hell and the
fag got what he deserved.
Either way you choose to look at it...the homosexual community is a
target in this society.
Its time to grow up and get out of people's lifestyles and take care of
your own.
Wm James
You neglect one important difference. Those others you mentioned have
nothing whatsoever to to dowith their behavior. Those slurs are
similar. Once can be a "chink bone smoker" or a "junglebunny turd
burglar" One cannot be a "nipperhead wop". (Well not in the general
use of the terms. WOP once referred to "without papers, but that's
another issue). You want to equate a persons actions with a persons
race or ethnic heratage, and that simply doesn't work. The
homosexual slurs you mentioned are slang terms referencing the
behaviors.
>Either way you choose to look at it...the homosexual community is a
>target in this society.
Nonsense! People ae free to do whatever they want in their bedrooms.
It's only when it is peddled as a "protected minority" and acceptance
is demanded that such "targeting" occurs.
>Its time to grow up and get out of people's lifestyles and take care of
>your own.
>
>JRB
I would suggest the very same thing to the homosexual activists.
William R. James
G*rd*n
| >and
| >> > various music artists that are more than willing to expose my kid to
| >> > hetrosexual activity....
| >>
| >> God forbid they get the diea that heterosexuality is acceptable...
| >>
| >> > Lets face it....its still acceptable to discriminate, bash, slur or
| >> > whatever else against gays.
"Stan Rothwell" <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
| >> You throw those in all in one pot, as if they were
| >> equally heinous. Perhaps you don't realize that
| >> we have a First Amendment that gives us the right
| >> to criticize others, even homosexuals...
jrbi...@my-deja.com wrote:
| >Nope, got no problem with the acceptability that heterosexuality; what
| >I do have a problem with is movies aimed at children that feature nudity
| >and sexual activity. Besides, the point wasn't the acceptability of
| >either lifestyle but the exposure to sexual activity.
| >
| >Thats right we do have a First Amendment that give us the right to
| >criticize. But...how acceptable in today's society is to use nigger,
| >spook, chink, kike, wop, nipperhead, zipperhead, junglebunny or any
| >other myriad racist slurs? Not at all. However, we still find it okey
| >dokey to use fag, turd burglar, bone smoker, queer and any other slur we
| >want against the homosexual community. And when was the last time you
| >saw a group like the KKK at a black funeral carrying signs and saying
| >the nigger got what he deserved? But what images were we presented with
| >at Matthew Shepards funeral? The Christian whackos carrying the signs
| >and shouting such nice things as Matthew Shepard burns in hell and the
| >fag got what he deserved.
| You neglect one important difference. Those others you mentioned have
| nothing whatsoever to to dowith their behavior. Those slurs are
| similar. Once can be a "chink bone smoker" or a "junglebunny turd
| burglar" One cannot be a "nipperhead wop". (Well not in the general
| use of the terms. WOP once referred to "without papers, but that's
| another issue). You want to equate a persons actions with a persons
| race or ethnic heratage, and that simply doesn't work. The
| homosexual slurs you mentioned are slang terms referencing the
| behaviors.
| ...
I don't see what difference it makes. In fact, the epithets
used against some ethnic and religious groups have been based
on behavior. Such epithets are mostly protected free speech,
as are protests against them. The person who started this
thread wanted people to object to "Queer Duck", and possibly
punish the originators for creating it, but not for the
government to pass a law aginst it. There is no free speech
issue. There are no "special rights". The reason people do
not use certain ethnic epithets is not because they are
prohibited by law, but because there is a social cost --
ostracism and boycott -- exacted by other members of the
community for doing so.
In fact "Queer Duck" is advertised on Planet Out, so I think
the people responsible for it think homosexuals are going to
_like_ it, rather than be offended by it.
Wm James
>| >> > You're right about the restrooms....unfortunately I have movies, tv
>| >and
>| >> > various music artists that are more than willing to expose my kid to
>| >> > hetrosexual activity....
>| >>
>| >> God forbid they get the diea that heterosexuality is acceptable...
>| >>
>| >> > Lets face it....its still acceptable to discriminate, bash, slur or
>| >> > whatever else against gays.
>
>"Stan Rothwell" <roth...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>| >> You throw those in all in one pot, as if they were
>| >> equally heinous. Perhaps you don't realize that
>| >> we have a First Amendment that gives us the right
>| >> to criticize others, even homosexuals...
>
>jrbi...@my-deja.com wrote:
>| >Nope, got no problem with the acceptability that heterosexuality; what
>| >I do have a problem with is movies aimed at children that feature nudity
>| >and sexual activity. Besides, the point wasn't the acceptability of
>| >either lifestyle but the exposure to sexual activity.
>| >
>| >Thats right we do have a First Amendment that give us the right to
>| >criticize. But...how acceptable in today's society is to use nigger,
>| >spook, chink, kike, wop, nipperhead, zipperhead, junglebunny or any
>| >other myriad racist slurs? Not at all. However, we still find it okey
>| >dokey to use fag, turd burglar, bone smoker, queer and any other slur we
>| >want against the homosexual community. And when was the last time you
>| >saw a group like the KKK at a black funeral carrying signs and saying
>| >the nigger got what he deserved? But what images were we presented with
>| >at Matthew Shepards funeral? The Christian whackos carrying the signs
>| >and shouting such nice things as Matthew Shepard burns in hell and the
>| >fag got what he deserved.
>
>| You neglect one important difference. Those others you mentioned have
>| nothing whatsoever to to dowith their behavior. Those slurs are
>| similar. Once can be a "chink bone smoker" or a "junglebunny turd
>| burglar" One cannot be a "nipperhead wop". (Well not in the general
>| use of the terms. WOP once referred to "without papers, but that's
>| another issue). You want to equate a persons actions with a persons
>| race or ethnic heratage, and that simply doesn't work. The
>| homosexual slurs you mentioned are slang terms referencing the
>| behaviors.
>| ...
>
>I don't see what difference it makes. In fact, the epithets
>used against some ethnic and religious groups have been based
>on behavior.
No, they are often based of stereotypical behavior of the group. Take
blacks eating watermelon, for example. The group being "picked on"
isn't watermelon eaters, it's blacks. Take jews being cheap. The
group being picked on is the jews, not the cheap. With homosexuals,
that is not the case. The group is those engaging in the behavior.
>Such epithets are mostly protected free speech,
>as are protests against them. The person who started this
>thread wanted people to object to "Queer Duck", and possibly
>punish the originators for creating it, but not for the
>government to pass a law aginst it.
Some do want laws against it, and campain hard for it.
>There is no free speech
>issue. There are no "special rights". The reason people do
>not use certain ethnic epithets is not because they are
>prohibited by law, but because there is a social cost --
>ostracism and boycott -- exacted by other members of the
>community for doing so.
Those wanting legal measures are indeed pursuing special rights.
>In fact "Queer Duck" is advertised on Planet Out, so I think
>the people responsible for it think homosexuals are going to
>_like_ it, rather than be offended by it.
So what's wrong with humor? Eddie Murphy tells more black jokes than
any white comedian. So what?
William R. James
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>>I don't see what difference it makes. In fact, the epithets
>>used against some ethnic and religious groups have been based
>>on behavior.
>
>No, they are often based of stereotypical behavior of the group.
"Stereotypical"? Not at all. Gays never have, nor ever will, use
gerbils for sexual thrills. That was totally made up by homophobes.
There are numerous other insulting images used against gays that has
*nothing to do with our real behavior, stereotypical or otherwise.
>>There is no free speech
>>issue. There are no "special rights". The reason people do
>>not use certain ethnic epithets is not because they are
>>prohibited by law, but because there is a social cost --
>>ostracism and boycott -- exacted by other members of the
>>community for doing so.
>
>Those wanting legal measures are indeed pursuing special rights.
Sure! Those wanting laws to ban gays from society...they are
campaigning very hard to wipe us out, and spending tremendous sums of
money. They desire to contain their own special rights for
heterosexuals only...and try to keep gays from enjoying such
privileges that these breeder-elitists take for granted.
>>In fact "Queer Duck" is advertised on Planet Out, so I think
>>the people responsible for it think homosexuals are going to
>>_like_ it, rather than be offended by it.
The fact it was being promoted by a solidly pro-gay company, is what
really shocked me.
>So what's wrong with humor? Eddie Murphy tells more black jokes than
>any white comedian. So what?
Sacrificing one's ideals to become rich is nothing new. He is
appealing to the vast white majority, who lap up his "jigaboo" humor.
Just as "humor" portraying gays as "sick puppies" seems to sell very
well. But at what cost? Our very own lives, it seems.
I think we'll need another Civil War before we can mop up all these
homophobes, who are stopping Amerika from fulfilling her destiny.
Give us marriage or give us death:
Slay the beast of homophobia!
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Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 13:18:24 -0600, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>>I don't see what difference it makes. In fact, the epithets
>>>used against some ethnic and religious groups have been based
>>>on behavior.
>>
>>No, they are often based of stereotypical behavior of the group.
>
>"Stereotypical"? Not at all. Gays never have, nor ever will, use
>gerbils for sexual thrills. That was totally made up by homophobes.
>There are numerous other insulting images used against gays that has
>*nothing to do with our real behavior, stereotypical or otherwise.
How many black americans have ever "chunked a spear"? Are you a
bigot, Zeke? Do you assume stereotypes have to be based 100% on
reality? :)
>>>There is no free speech
>>>issue. There are no "special rights". The reason people do
>>>not use certain ethnic epithets is not because they are
>>>prohibited by law, but because there is a social cost --
>>>ostracism and boycott -- exacted by other members of the
>>>community for doing so.
>>
>>Those wanting legal measures are indeed pursuing special rights.
>
>Sure! Those wanting laws to ban gays from society...
Name one. OK, one who anyone would ever take seriously.
>they are
>campaigning very hard to wipe us out, and spending tremendous sums of
>money. They desire to contain their own special rights for
>heterosexuals only...and try to keep gays from enjoying such
>privileges that these breeder-elitists take for granted.
Name one.
>>>In fact "Queer Duck" is advertised on Planet Out, so I think
>>>the people responsible for it think homosexuals are going to
>>>_like_ it, rather than be offended by it.
>
>The fact it was being promoted by a solidly pro-gay company, is what
>really shocked me.
Why? Do you assume that homosexuals have no sense of humor? Some
don't. You for example. But I assume most do. Obviously some do.
>>So what's wrong with humor? Eddie Murphy tells more black jokes than
>>any white comedian. So what?
>
>Sacrificing one's ideals to become rich is nothing new. He is
>appealing to the vast white majority, who lap up his "jigaboo" humor.
>Just as "humor" portraying gays as "sick puppies" seems to sell very
>well. But at what cost? Our very own lives, it seems.
What??? What makes you think he has sacrificed anything? Blacks and
whites both think he is funny! The same ca be said for Richard Prior
and Chris Rock. Are you so void of a sense of humor that you can't
even recognize humor?
>I think we'll need another Civil War before we can mop up all these
>homophobes, who are stopping Amerika from fulfilling her destiny.
>
> Give us marriage or give us death:
Do we get to choose? :)
William R. James
jrbi...@my-deja.com
Thought I'd let this settle a week...
Your arguments state that slurs against gays are based on behavior so
thats ok...
A couple of questions then:
If you, as a heterosexual, choose to engage in anal sex with your
wife/gf, is it ok to call you a turd burglar?
If your wife/gf performs fellatio on you, is it ok to refer to her as a
bone smoker?
These activities are the behaviors to which you refer, so I guess it
would be.
bol...@newsguy.com
> snip...
>
>If you, as a heterosexual, choose to engage in anal sex with your
>wife/gf, is it ok to call you a turd burglar?
>
>
>If your wife/gf performs fellatio on you, is it ok to refer to her as a
>bone smoker?
>
>These activities are the behaviors to which you refer, so I guess it
>would be.
You're not guessing, JR, you're opining. If you're going to
pontificate, you should be accurate with your language.
Wm James
>If you, as a heterosexual, choose to engage in anal sex with your
>wife/gf, is it ok to call you a turd burglar?
>
>If your wife/gf performs fellatio on you, is it ok to refer to her as a
>bone smoker?
>
>These activities are the behaviors to which you refer, so I guess it
>would be.
>
>JRB
Yes. And if some heterosexuals go about discussing it and demanding
that other accept it, then you can poke fun at them too.
William R. James
jrbi...@my-deja.com
Wm James
>> >These activities are the behaviors to which you refer, so I guess it
>> >would be.
>> >
>> >JRB
>>
>> Yes. And if some heterosexuals go about discussing it and demanding
>> that other accept it, then you can poke fun at them too.
>>
>> William R. James
>>
>>
>Well alrighty then
>as long as i know where you stand.
>
>JRB
Was that a surprize? My point is simply that if you do thinks which
are different people consider you different. To expect otherwise is
silly. And humans use humor under such circumstances.
William R. James
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
>> Yes. And if some heterosexuals go about discussing it and demanding
>> that other accept it, then you can poke fun at them too.
>>
>> William R. James
>>
>>
>Well alrighty then
>as long as i know where you stand.
But you don't know, because Mr. James says whatever suits him. He is
only saying it's okay to use expletives against his sexuality, because
he knows there really are none equivalent to the anti-gay ones, which
ones are what he says are "okay". IOW, he's fine with brutally bashing
gays, while he in turn suffers the occassional lashing with a wet
noodle.
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<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>Another good reason for atheism. :)
Though atheism is the poorest reason on earth to justify homophobia.
Yet many atheists are anti-gay...not the least of which was Madeline
O'hare (a famous atheist leader, who was virulently anti-gay).
Wm James
Into wet noodle S&M, huh Zeke? :)
I would love to see you try and come up with a single example to back
up your accusations, but I know better than to expect it from you.
William R. James
Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:52:00 -0500, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>Another good reason for atheism. :)
>
>Though atheism is the poorest reason on earth to justify homophobia.
>Yet many atheists are anti-gay...not the least of which was Madeline
>O'hare (a famous atheist leader, who was virulently anti-gay).
She was anti- just about everything.
William R. James
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
<wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>She was anti- just about everything.
Nonetheless, she was a staunch atheist.
Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:26:43 -0600, Wm James
><wrj...@kudzucountry.com> wrote:
>
>>She was anti- just about everything.
>
>Nonetheless, she was a staunch atheist.
So? Several of Hitler's henchmen were homosexuals. Are you prepared
to accept them as among your flock?
William R. James
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
>I totally agree, but if you'll notice they also
>use the same kind of low humor in all their shows especially Mr.Wong.
>I think they do it on purpose to get a buzz going.
Yes, I checked out Mr. Wong...very insulting and racist, too. There is
no excuse for this, these days. They are appealing to the lowest
common denominator (such as Fred Cherry and Wm. James).
>I recently saw an awesome website, if you like flash cartoons it's
I like animation, not necessarily flash.
Thanks, but, I don't think cartoons about supermodels could capture my
interest for long. The kind of animation that appeals to me, is
"underground-comic" style, or true artistic exploration.
Wm James
Krahlin) wrote:
>On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:36:51 GMT, andro...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>>I totally agree, but if you'll notice they also
>>use the same kind of low humor in all their shows especially Mr.Wong.
>>I think they do it on purpose to get a buzz going.
>
>Yes, I checked out Mr. Wong...very insulting and racist, too. There is
>no excuse for this, these days. They are appealing to the lowest
>common denominator (such as Fred Cherry and Wm. James).
It's called "humor" Zeke. Some recognize it. We are all different.
There is nothing wrong with noticing that. Only the hypersensitive can
possibly be offended by someone failing to pretend otherwise.
>>I recently saw an awesome website, if you like flash cartoons it's
>
>I like animation, not necessarily flash.
>
>>www.thesupermodels.tv
>
>Thanks, but, I don't think cartoons about supermodels could capture my
>interest for long. The kind of animation that appeals to me, is
>"underground-comic" style, or true artistic exploration.
That would be the humorless ones?
William R. James
keith hancock
Re: The biased reporting that makes killing acceptable
I was vacationing in Syria when the current hostilities erupted, and have
just returned. So little news reaches the West about what Syria and it's
people are like that I was, like many others I guess, concerned about the
so-called "hotbed of terrorism" and the censorship enforced by a military
dictatorship. Instead, I found an amazing country with some of the
friendliest and most honest people in the world. And, surprise, easy access
to satellite television and hence, BBC World and CNN news.
As events unfolded in Israel, I took particular interest as, naturally
enough, I had to be prepared to bolt out of there at any sign of escalation
into all out war.
As a result, I watched every bit of news available.
It was a life-changing experience as I realised just how biased Western news
reporting is and had to start questioning the motives behind such
propaganda.
One news item will always stick in my mind - a Palestinian man in normal,
everyday clothes and completely unarmed was arguing/haranguing with two
Israeli soldiers (who were in full combat gear and carrying machine guns).
He yelled and shook his fist - they started pushing him around - and put one
hand on a soldier to ward of a possible blow (well, that's what it looked
like - he was certainly trying to keep the soldier at arms length). He
shook his fists some more then turned away and walked off. About 50 metres
on, he turned and yelled some more. Then he was shot dead.
I saw the full film of this event on Syrian TV. On CNN and BBC World they
showed a snippet - up till the time he laid a hand on the soldier. Then the
voice-overs said that this was an example of the extreme provocation the
Israelis have to put up with every day.
Sadly, people at home would have seen that broadcast and thought, "poor
Israeli soldier". I might have myself, had I not seen the outcome.
Whatever the rights or wrongs of any given incident, the fact remains - one
of the worlds most advanced armies has gone into action against a civilian
population.
The Palestinians have called for protection, they have asked for a peace
keeping force to protect their people, surely to God the rest of the world
can see past their awe of the United States and do something to help?
How many innocent lives will be lost before we stand up and demand that the
tanks and helicopter gun ships are forced to stand down?
My heart goes out to the Palestinian people, nobody, no matter how
provocative, deserves this and it is about time Westerners woke up to what
is going on in the world.
<snip>>
> But on we go, reporting the Middle East tragedy with all our own little
> uncontroversial clichés and amnesia and avoidance of "controversial"
> subjects. Such journalism is already leading - despite the extraordinary
> casualty figures - to a public view that the Palestinians are solely
> responsible for the bloodbath, that they are generically violent,
> untrustworthy murderers. I think this kind of reporting helps to condone
> the taking of human life.