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Brent Decoteau

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Oct 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/18/98
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Some seem to be suggesting that we all take up arms (if we can put down our
Cape Cods long enough) and fight the evil christo-hetero tyranny!! Fight!
Fight! Rah Rah Rah!

I think that is asking for a slaughter. Are we really prepared for this?

Scenario: A gay person goes out and kills a "redneck" who he assumes to be
a heterosexual and a Christian, thinking that this will somehow avenge
Matthew Sheherd's (and all the many others) death.

What happens next is that all of the "fence-sitters" who haven't minded us
gay folks will come off of that fence and they will come down on the side
of the conservatives.

I, frankly don't think it's necessary that we open that can of worms. This
battle for equal rights (and to be left alone with them) is not, has not,
and will not be easy. There is no quick solution.

My experience has been that once a skeptic gets to know me, they realize
that gay people are pretty much just like everyone else, with a few
differences.

I have had skeptics tell me in so many words that their friendship with me
has changed their views on homosexuals. In my opinion, this is the best
kind of change.

The rest is all media, which isn't always trustworthy. Person by person,
contact by contact, by our fruits they shall know us.

We are decent, moral, valuable, hard-working, critical members of society
in every nation. Until people get to know us, they will think otherwise
(or whatevery they want to think.)

How can we expect to meet people and form relationships that will change
minds?

- Because this is not about a mass campaign to desensitive people to
homosexuality. This is about RELATIONSHIPS.

We certainly won't win anyone over or make any friends if we hold every
heterosexual and every Christian in "contempt" because they disagree with
us. Perhaps if they got to know us, they would at least see us for the
human beings that we are, and not some caricature or stereotype.

I have seen it happen. It amazes me.

But you can't get to know someone if your finger is on the trigger and
you're loaded for bear. Impatience will not bring us any closer to
acceptance.

Is this the sword you want to fall on? Now? I have to urge otherwise.

But of course, that is just my opinion.

Okay, if you disagree you may now commence flaming.

--
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Brent W. Decoteau
army...@soldier.net

L. Michael Roberts

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Nope I mostly agree... Being out and open with our friends, family and
co-workers is the best way to show that gays are humans. Someone once
postulated that to reach any other person on the planet, we meerly need
to go through a maximum of 6 people to make contact. If we each are out
to 6 people, then eventually everyone will know at least one gay person
first hand amd many more will know us second hand.
Eudction is the lamp that drives out fear and ignorance!

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Brandon Burt

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Brent Decoteau wrote in message <01bdfadc$86b993e0$47c932ce@decoteau>...

>Okay, if you disagree you may now commence flaming.


If you consider any viewpoint divergent from your own to be a "flame", then
who's got his "finger on the trigger ... loaded for bear"?

You are incorrect if you think that the politically radical response to
Matthew's death is to go out and shoot some guy with a beer gut and a big
belt buckle. Very few radicals would even consider this, because it would do
nothing to further the cause, as well as being a gruesome non-solution to
the problem of violence.

Is it enough simply to live and let live? Once the bigots see how nicely we
keep our lawns mown, will they magnanimously decide we're not that bad, and
that we should be given nearly all the benefits "normal" people reap from
full membership in society? If you don't think things work this way, you may
be (gasp!) a radical.

-Brandon Burt

Mike Silverman

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In article <01bdfadc$86b993e0$47c932ce@decoteau>, "Brent Decoteau"
<army...@soldier.net> wrote:

> Some seem to be suggesting that we all take up arms (if we can put down our
> Cape Cods long enough) and fight the evil christo-hetero tyranny!! Fight!
> Fight! Rah Rah Rah!
>
> I think that is asking for a slaughter. Are we really prepared for this?
>
> Scenario: A gay person goes out and kills a "redneck" who he assumes to be
> a heterosexual and a Christian, thinking that this will somehow avenge
> Matthew Sheherd's (and all the many others) death.


That's murder.

I can only speak for myself, but most of us here are talking about self
defense, not "going out" and killing people.

--
Mike Silverman -- mike_si...@hotmail.com -- Lawrence, KS

Allen James

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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In article <70e65t$7ba$1...@news.xmission.com>, "Brandon Burt"
<b...@xmission.com> wrote:

> Brent Decoteau wrote in message <01bdfadc$86b993e0$47c932ce@decoteau>...
> >Okay, if you disagree you may now commence flaming.
>
>
> If you consider any viewpoint divergent from your own to be a "flame", then
> who's got his "finger on the trigger ... loaded for bear"?
>
> You are incorrect if you think that the politically radical response to

> Matthew's death is to go out and shoot some guy with a beer gut......

Hey! It's ME! DON'T SHOOT!

Allen James


%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%

"To judge by the notions expounded by most theologians,
one must conclude that God created most men simply with
a view to crowding Hell."

Marquis de Sade

James Doemer

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Brent Decoteau wrote in message <01bdfadc$86b993e0$47c932ce@decoteau>...
:
:Some seem to be suggesting that we all take up arms (if we can put down

our
:Cape Cods long enough) and fight the evil christo-hetero tyranny!!
Fight!
:Fight! Rah Rah Rah!
:
:I think that is asking for a slaughter. Are we really prepared for
this?

I personally wouldn't suggest anyone go to war, or go out looking for
revenge
against your oppressors. However, I do suggest that gays arm
themselves in
some way. Whether that is a handgun, or a can of pepper spray is up
to
personal choice. People do have a right to self defense.

:
:Scenario: A gay person goes out and kills a "redneck" who he assumes


to be
:a heterosexual and a Christian, thinking that this will somehow avenge
:Matthew Sheherd's (and all the many others) death.

:
:What happens next is that all of the "fence-sitters" who haven't minded


But a little wariness can keep a person alive sometimes....


:
:Is this the sword you want to fall on? Now? I have to urge otherwise.


:
:But of course, that is just my opinion.

:


Well, I wouldn't flame you, I, for the most part, agree with you. One
doesn't need
to be "loaded for bear", but one also doesn't need to be totally
unprepared for
all eventualities. There is a middle ground in there someplace that a
person
should feel comfortable with. Learn how to deal with violence, not
be violent.

Brent W. Decoteau

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Mike Silverman <mike_si...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<mike_silverman-...@port310.cjnetworks.com>...
: In article <01bdfadc$86b993e0$47c932ce@decoteau>, "Brent Decoteau"
: <army...@soldier.net> wrote:
:
: > Some seem to be suggesting that we all take up arms (if we can put down

our
: > Cape Cods long enough) and fight the evil christo-hetero tyranny!!
Fight!
: > Fight! Rah Rah Rah!
: >
: > I think that is asking for a slaughter. Are we really prepared for
this?
: >
: > Scenario: A gay person goes out and kills a "redneck" who he assumes

to be
: > a heterosexual and a Christian, thinking that this will somehow avenge
: > Matthew Sheherd's (and all the many others) death.
:
:
: That's murder.

:
: I can only speak for myself, but most of us here are talking about self
: defense, not "going out" and killing people.

I gathered that much, Mike. Thanks for your post.

Brent W. Decoteau

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Brandon Burt <b...@xmission.com> wrote in article
<70e65t$7ba$1...@news.xmission.com>...
: Brent Decoteau wrote in message <01bdfadc$86b993e0$47c932ce@decoteau>...
: >Okay, if you disagree you may now commence flaming.


:
:
: If you consider any viewpoint divergent from your own to be a "flame",
then
: who's got his "finger on the trigger ... loaded for bear"?

Well, first of all Brandon, I don't consider any viewpoint divergent from
my own to be a "flame" - the statement was meant to be (ahem) humorous. I
guess I forgot my emoticons again.

: You are incorrect if you think that the politically radical response to
: Matthew's death is to go out and shoot some guy with a beer gut and a big


: belt buckle. Very few radicals would even consider this, because it would
do
: nothing to further the cause, as well as being a gruesome non-solution to
: the problem of violence.

Gee that's an original thought, Brandon. Please, DO go on...

: Is it enough simply to live and let live? Once the bigots see how nicely


we
: keep our lawns mown, will they magnanimously decide we're not that bad,
and
: that we should be given nearly all the benefits "normal" people reap from
: full membership in society? If you don't think things work this way, you
may
: be (gasp!) a radical.

First of all, I don't know who keeps YOUR lawn, but the people who do MINE
are the same ones who do the het lawns around here, so we won't be winning
any gardening prizes now will we.

1) Did your post offer a solution to the problem? No.

2) Was your purpose in responding to my post to show how elegant and witty
you are?

Probably.

So you can come on in here and rip other people's ideas to shreds, take
things out of context, and assign your own rhetoric to them without
offering any original or creative ideas of your own?

Lovely.


--

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Brent Decoteau
army...@soldier.net


Ezekiel Krahlin

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Oct 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/19/98
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:23:50 -0400, "James Doemer"
<big...@provide.net> wrote:

>I personally wouldn't suggest anyone go to war, or go out looking for
>revenge against your oppressors. However, I do suggest that gays arm
>themselves in some way. Whether that is a handgun, or a can of pepper
>spray is up to personal choice. People do have a right to self defense.

That's a lot better suggestion than what is coming from our own
(supposedly) gay leaders, who tell us to get a whistle! If I get a
whistle, it will be a very large one, which I will then shove up these
leaders' bungholes.

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Ezekiel Krahlin

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On 18 Oct 1998 21:34:52 -0500, mike_si...@hotmail.com (Mike
Silverman) wrote:

>I can only speak for myself, but most of us here are talking about self
>defense, not "going out" and killing people.

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I HATE BABIES
or
THE ROOTS OF HOMOPHOBIA

(no apologies to Jonathan Swift)

Š 1997 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
(Jehovah's Queer Witness)


I hate babies. Pushed in our faces in ever-increasing
numbers up and down the sidewalks of our queer neighborhoods
in cute little pink and blue strollers, they are symbols made
flesh of heterosexist arrogance. These subhuman breeders are
the real perverts, for using their own children as front-line
artillery in this war on same-sex lovers. Their disdain,
hatred and (sometimes) fear is written all over their monkey
faces. Perhaps they will think twice about "strolling" our
neighborhoods, once an outraged queer wrests a pudgy, howling
blob of protoplasm from its stroller and tosses it into a
mailbox for overnight delivery. (Or once a basher is bashed
back and roped to a tree in a queer area of a city park,
entrails spilled onto his lap with a sign on his chest:
"Homophobe".) Don't tell me that you, queer reader, do not
also entertain such thoughts of retribution from time to time.

The historical roots of modern homophobia lie in the
early Hebrews' need to propagate in order to outnumber their
tribal enemies. Thus it became a heinous sin for any male to
"spill seed" outside of a woman's "vessel". Same-sex love was
therefore incorporated by their religious leaders to be an
abomination in the eyes of God. (Christianity's emergence
carried forth this heterosexist supremacy into modern times
with a vengeance so cruel, that it can only be deemed a mass
insanity or psychosis.) Perhaps this extreme measure was a
necessary evil, as a matter of survival to a tribe threatened
with annihilation by enemies on every side. But that was
several thousand years ago, and now we live in a world far too
populated for its own well-being.

Perhaps it is time for God to reverse the ancient law of
homophobia and declare it a sin *not* to waste seed. Perhaps
we should no longer "turn the other cheek" (to use the
fundamentalists' own Christian terminology), but revert to the
ancient Mosaic law of "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"
(or in this case, a baby for a queer). Perhaps it is time for
a "New Passover"--only this one for queers--sacrificing the
hetero firstborn of every breeder as Yahweh's warning to give
us our freedom. Perhaps the act of "breeding" (without strict
social guidelines) should now be made a crime punishable by
death. Enforced spilling of seed anywhere except in a woman's
vessel may be the "necessary evil" to save us from global
disaster--and will put new meaning in the phrase "turn the
other cheek".

Remember, homophobic swine: you do not *make* a
baby--only genetics (read "God") can do that. Woman is just
the vessel. It is how you raise a child that counts...which
has nothing to do with whether one's parents are "natural" or
not. As a matter of fact, the current rise in child abuse
(and neglect) by heterosexist parents, is so alarming that
even a test tube would provide a safer haven to these hapless
offspring. It takes no brains to insert rod A into slot B,
which is the only reason you illiterate homophobic simians can
breed at all. And the only reason most of you breed your
brains out is to assure each other that you are not
homosexual--with your fleshly offspring as your "Good
Housekeeping Seal Of Approval" to parade before us queers in
our own neighborhoods. Stop screwing, and read a good book
for once in your life.


-----finis

James Doemer

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Ezekiel Krahlin wrote in message
<362b85df...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>...
:On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:23:50 -0400, "James Doemer"

:<big...@provide.net> wrote:
:
:>I personally wouldn't suggest anyone go to war, or go out looking for
:>revenge against your oppressors. However, I do suggest that gays arm
:>themselves in some way. Whether that is a handgun, or a can of
pepper
:>spray is up to personal choice. People do have a right to self
defense.
:
:That's a lot better suggestion than what is coming from our own
:(supposedly) gay leaders, who tell us to get a whistle! If I get a
:whistle, it will be a very large one, which I will then shove up these
:leaders' bungholes.
:


A whistle?? What the hell are you going to do with a whistle??
No offense, and I'm certainly not one to criticize, but I think the
'gay leaders' need a reality check... I mean what is your chances
of anyone coming to your rescue?? I certainly wouldn't want
to rely on that!

Brandon Burt

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Brent W. Decoteau wrote in message <01bdfb60$274f9100$dfc832ce@decoteau>...

>First of all, I don't know who keeps YOUR lawn, but the people who do MINE
>are the same ones who do the het lawns around here, so we won't be winning
>any gardening prizes now will we.


Gee, I don't know -- unfortunately, I can't afford personal slaves and must
mow my own lawn.

>1) Did your post offer a solution to the problem? No.


Did yours offer a realistic and complete solution to the problem? No. That's
why I posted my response -- not, as I think you meant to claim below, to
show how eloquent I can be. For one thing, there was not one single colorful
metaphor in my post.

>2) Was your purpose in responding to my post to show how elegant and witty
>you are?

>Probably.


Thank you for not even considering my point. It makes it so much easier to
dismiss "people like me" as being "radicals" without valid viewpoints.

>So you can come on in here and rip other people's ideas to shreds, take
>things out of context, and assign your own rhetoric to them without
>offering any original or creative ideas of your own?


I don't think I tried to rip your ideas to shreds. As a matter of fact, I
agree that heterosexual people who know glbt people are much less likely to
have irrational anti-gay attitudes. My relationships with my friends -- both
gay and straight -- are very important to my life.

I disagree, however, that all that is necessary to change the pervasive
anti-gay, anti-sex, anti-freedom sickness which infects society is patience
and a good attitude. Some people will never want to be my friends. I might
even hazard, even given how gregarious and likeable you are, that there may
be one or two extreme bigots in the United States today who would not even
consider a friendship with you because of your sexuality. Obviously, if we
rely solely on the make-friends-and-change-the-world strategy, there is not
going to be appreciable change in our lifetimes. It is sometimes necessary
to take an offensive approach against the well-organized groups that want to
rob us of our dignity, our freedom, our humanity. We must use _everything_
at our disposal to put an end to bigotry in all its forms.

I'm not urging you to change your behavior -- to become hateful and
abrasive, to start throwing blood at police officers, to scream at random
Christians -- In fact, please DON'T do these things. But I would ask that
before you condemn all radicals, you learn the facts about just what it
means to be a political radical in today's post-Cold War world. Frankly, it
doesn't have as much to do with the loutish tactics employed by groups such
as ACT-UP in the 80s and early 90s as some people think it does.

-Brandon Burt

Brandon Burt

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It is unfortunate that most murderous bigots do not respond as hoped to
passive resistance ...

-Brandon Burt


James Doemer

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That's one of the things that makes them murderous bigots... :c)

Brandon Burt wrote in message <70gami$ru9$1...@news.xmission.com>...
:It is unfortunate that most murderous bigots do not respond as hoped to

:
:
:

Ezekiel Krahlin

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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:47:12 -0600, "Brandon Burt" <b...@xmission.com>
wrote:

>You are incorrect if you think that the politically radical response to
>Matthew's death is to go out and shoot some guy with a beer gut and a big
>belt buckle.

And what's wrong with cultural liposuction of unwanted sacks of fat
that can only cripple the entire organism?

>Is it enough simply to live and let live?

We gays obviously cannot "live and let live" as long as we continue to
have hetero bigots shoving their filthy, vermin-infested noses up our
wholesome ass-cracks. They are the ones spreading diseases of all
sorts, including AIDS...then blaming *us for their crimes of horror
and wickedness. Until heteros are pushed aside for ones and all, gays
will never be able to simply "live and let live". We have no other
options but to declare war and secession.

Ezekiel Krahlin

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:49:31 -0400, "James Doemer"
<big...@provide.net> wrote:
>A whistle?? What the hell are you going to do with a whistle??
>No offense, and I'm certainly not one to criticize, but I think the
>'gay leaders' need a reality check... I mean what is your chances
>of anyone coming to your rescue?? I certainly wouldn't want
>to rely on that!

One must consider the motive for gay leaders to propose carrying a
whistle for protection...yet not also propose carrying some sort of
legal weapon, such as pepper spray or a licensed gun. One would
conclude that many gays in power are (what I call) "queer
turncoats"...who only play into the hands of the Religious Reich, in
order to garner their favor and benefits. In other words: WE HAVE BEEN
INFILTRATED BY THE RIGHT WING.

There are times when a whistle...by virtue of making a lot of
noise...will cause some fag-bashers to back off. However, a whistle
alone is not enough, in most cases. Carry a whistle if you must...but
by all means back it up with pepper spray (or other legal weapon of
self defense).

Many of us (including myself) will soon disappear from the public
eye...to go underground, as guerrilla resistance to the holocaust
about to descend upon this nation like the shadow of Satan's hand.
(Some of us will stage fake deaths, while others will change their
names.) I hope to see some of you at my headquarters near D.C....it
will be a pleasure to finally meet in person, some of you guys who so
bravely defend our lesbian/gay community.

Ezekiel Krahlin

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:14:24 -0600, "Brandon Burt" <b...@xmission.com>
wrote:

>>First of all, I don't know who keeps YOUR lawn, but the people who do MINE


>>are the same ones who do the het lawns around here, so we won't be winning
>>any gardening prizes now will we.

Those gays who are trusted to manage hetero's lawns, have incredible
access to planting all sorts of things in their grounds, and even in
their bedrooms. Things that can persuade them to favor gay rights.
Things that go "bump" in the night!

>I disagree, however, that all that is necessary to change the pervasive
>anti-gay, anti-sex, anti-freedom sickness which infects society is patience
>and a good attitude.

The Jewish people's good attitude did nothing to spare them from the
Holocaust. We gays are now in an identical position...smiles will not
win their evil hearts.

Jewish assimilation into the German and Eastern European nations had
become irreconcilable...thus, they formed their own separate nation of
Israel. In our time, homosexual assimilation into the mainstream,
heterocentric society of the U.S., is likewise forever irreconcilable,
so long as Amerika remains in existence. Thus, we must get out of
there, to form our own separate nation...somehow, some way, by hook or
by crook.

WARNING: Next on the Religious Reich's agenda: limited biological and
chemical attacks on all known queer communities...which may include
the entire city of San Francisco. The toxins will be untraceable to
their source...and the majority attitude will be "what a
shame"...however, like AIDS, they will drag their feet on this matter,
as it is *only a gay issue.

Who would you say, at this point, that patience and happy-smiles will
save us from the Ultimate Solution? Those who would, are clearly our
enemies...and don't be surprised if many of them wear the label of
"liberal heterosexual".

Brent W. Decoteau

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Ezekiel Krahlin <ezek...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in article
<3630e354...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>...
: On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:47:12 -0600, "Brandon Burt" <b...@xmission.com>
: wrote:
:
: >You are incorrect if you think that the politically radical response to

: >Matthew's death is to go out and shoot some guy with a beer gut and a
big
: >belt buckle.
:
: And what's wrong with cultural liposuction of unwanted sacks of fat
: that can only cripple the entire organism?
:
: >Is it enough simply to live and let live?
:
: We gays obviously cannot "live and let live" as long as we continue to
: have hetero bigots shoving their filthy, vermin-infested noses up our
: wholesome ass-cracks. They are the ones spreading diseases of all
: sorts, including AIDS...then blaming *us for their crimes of horror
: and wickedness. Until heteros are pushed aside for ones and all, gays
: will never be able to simply "live and let live". We have no other
: options but to declare war and secession.

I just want to be sure I understand you...you are really serious about
arming ourselves and perhaps taking out a few heterosexuals in the process
of showing that we aren't going to be kicked around anymore.

Is this correct? (No sarcasm, irony, cynicism, or rhetoric implied, just
asking)

robbie_c

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The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler Ezekiel J. (Crawlin') Krahlin
babbled on and on in message <3630e5bc...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>...

>Many of us (including myself) will soon disappear...

'Tis a consumation devoutly to be wished.

>...from the public eye...to go underground,

One more huge rat in the subway system.

>as guerrilla resistance to the holocaust
>about to descend upon this nation like the shadow of Satan's hand.
>(Some of us will stage fake deaths,

Why go for faux when you can have genuine?

>while others will change their names.)

I believe that you've done this at least once already. "Hello, Department of
Social Services?"

>I hope to see some of you at my headquarters near D.C....

I thought you were going to Holland.

>it will be a pleasure to finally meet in person, some of you guys who so


>bravely defend our lesbian/gay community.

Any person who voluntarily meets with you in D.C. is probably on a weekend
pass from St. Elizabeth's.


robbie
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On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:11:43 -0400, "robbie_c"
<bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:

>The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler Ezekiel J. (Crawlin') Krahlin
>babbled on and on in message <3630e5bc...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>...
>
>>Many of us (including myself) will soon disappear...
>
>'Tis a consumation devoutly to be wished.

But how can he disappear? Why just on Oct. 3 he wrote"

>>November 14 is the time limit for my world recognition (before
>>which time several miracles will occur around my presence, and obvious
>>to all). December 31 is the time limit for our species-transformation
>>...or the beginning of the process thereof.

>
>>...from the public eye...to go underground,
>
>One more huge rat in the subway system.
>
>>as guerrilla resistance to the holocaust
>>about to descend upon this nation like the shadow of Satan's hand.
>>(Some of us will stage fake deaths,

You mean, like Randolph?

>
>Why go for faux when you can have genuine?
>
>>while others will change their names.)
>
>I believe that you've done this at least once already. "Hello, Department of
>Social Services?"
>
>>I hope to see some of you at my headquarters near D.C....
>
>I thought you were going to Holland.
>

Whal will he do when the dome comes down around SF as he predicted??

robbie_c

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler Ezekiel J. (Crawlin') Krahlin
sputtered, slobbered, and blurted out this message
<3630e5ee...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>...

>WARNING: Next on the Religious Reich's agenda: limited biological and
>chemical attacks on all known queer communities...which may include
>the entire city of San Francisco. The toxins will be untraceable to
>their source...and the majority attitude will be "what a
>shame"...however, like AIDS, they will drag their feet on this matter,
>as it is *only a gay issue.

~~~

~Paranoia strikes deep.
~Into your life it will creep.
~It starts when you're always afraid.
~Step out of line, the man comes
~And takes you away.

Time to get your prescription refilled, Zeke. You need to take your Zyprexa
three times a day. Don't skip any doses.


robbie
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J. Northwood

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:27:31 -0400, "robbie_c"
<bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:

>~Paranoia strikes deep.
>~Into your life it will creep.
>~It starts when you're always afraid.
>~Step out of line, the man comes
>~And takes you away.

Brava! Brava! <sd - applause>

Congratulations, monsieur, you have completed successfully your final
for the Famous Poet's Finishing School(tm).

You may now use the FPFS(tm) slogan -- KOTLC/KOTRC/WIGFY.

And congratulations, once again.

ezek...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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In article <01bdfecf$e6265880$73c932ce@decoteau>,

"Brent W. Decoteau" <army...@soldier.net> wrote:
> I just want to be sure I understand you...you are really serious about
> arming ourselves and perhaps taking out a few heterosexuals in the process
> of showing that we aren't going to be kicked around anymore.

In self defense. There is no need for so many gays to be bashed...if only we
arm ourselves with pepper spray, guns, or any other legal weapon. As I said in
my essay, "I Hate Babies":

" Perhaps they [heteros] will think twice about "strolling" our
neighborhoods, once...a basher is bashed back and roped


to a tree in a queer area of a city park, entrails spilled
onto his lap with a sign on his chest: "Homophobe". "


--
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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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In article <70rnj6$7oa8$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,

"robbie_c" <bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:
> The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler Ezekiel J. (Crawlin') Krahlin
> babbled on and on in message <3630e5bc...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>...

My attorney will soon contact you, re. slander.

> >while others will change their names.)
>
> I believe that you've done this at least once already. "Hello, Department of
> Social Services?"

Yes, as a test mission. It's really quite easy. Here's how to officially
change your name with little hassle and little money:

1. Go to the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) and apply for a new driver's
license (or state ID). Fill out the section on the form, that includes a name
change. This is your only expense in changing your name: paying the fee for
the new license.

2. Then, with your slip (in lieu of new ID which will arrive some time later),
march on over to your local Social Security office, and tell them you changed
your name. Show them the slip. They will then process your new name on their
computer system.

> >I hope to see some of you at my headquarters near D.C....
>
> I thought you were going to Holland.

There, too. I will be travelling a lot soon.

> Any person who voluntarily meets with you in D.C. is probably on a weekend
> pass from St. Elizabeth's.

Cute.

ezek...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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In article <3631f137...@news3.europa.com>,

she...@europa.nospam.com (RavensHeart) wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:11:43 -0400, "robbie_c"
> <bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> >>Many of us (including myself) will soon disappear...
> >
> >'Tis a consumation devoutly to be wished.
>
> But how can he disappear? Why just on Oct. 3 he wrote"
>
> >>November 14 is the time limit for my world recognition (before
> >>which time several miracles will occur around my presence, and obvious
> >>to all). December 31 is the time limit for our species-transformation
> >>...or the beginning of the process thereof.

You have never been too quick on the draw, have you, RavensFart?

I will be world famous by then...but mysteriously disappear for a while.
I'm just letting the gay community in on the plot. God loves me very much, for
what I did for another man, Randolph Taylor. His reward to me, is to make my
fantasies come true. In fact, much of what I write, he weaves into
reality...thus making it easy for me to predict the future. What fun! What a
blessing! And I am using these marvelous gifts to benefit gays worldwide.

robbie_c

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler ezek...@my-dejanews.com
Ezekiel J. (Crawlin') Krahlin, off his Zyprexa, slurred and babbled in
message <70vvsi$ti$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <70rnj6$7oa8$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,
>the much-beloved renaissance man "robbie_c" <bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net>
wrote:

>> The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler Ezekiel J. (Crawlin') Krahlin
>> babbled on and on in message <3630e5bc...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>...
>
>My attorney will soon contact you, re. slander.
>

Yeah, yeah, sure. Go ahead. Have your attorney (undoubtedly some
ambulance-chasing shyster-goniff) call my attorney. Anytime. Filing lawsuits
is our second-favorite indoor sport here in New York City, the "Litigation
Capitol of the World."

By the way, I have printed and mailed a copy of your "Twenty Dollars A Slam"
article to my attorney. "Defense Exhibit A, Your Honor!"

Zeke, you're an idiot.

RavensHeart

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:01:47 GMT, ezek...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>In article <3631f137...@news3.europa.com>,
> she...@europa.nospam.com (RavensHeart) wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:11:43 -0400, "robbie_c"
>> <bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>Many of us (including myself) will soon disappear...
>> >
>> >'Tis a consumation devoutly to be wished.
>>
>> But how can he disappear? Why just on Oct. 3 he wrote"
>>
>> >>November 14 is the time limit for my world recognition (before
>> >>which time several miracles will occur around my presence, and obvious
>> >>to all). December 31 is the time limit for our species-transformation
>> >>...or the beginning of the process thereof.
>
>You have never been too quick on the draw, have you, RavensFart?
>
>I will be world famous by then...but mysteriously disappear for a while.
>I'm just letting the gay community in on the plot.

Oh, I see... sort of "in a little while you shall see me no more, and
then in a little while you shall see me"????

>God loves me very much, for
>what I did for another man, Randolph Taylor.

Funny thing, if he's so famous, why can't I find anthing about him in
any any search engine.

I still think that if the man existed, and he staged his death, he did
it to get away from you.

> His reward to me, is to make my
>fantasies come true.

Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you....yada, yada, yada

> In fact, much of what I write, he weaves into
>reality...thus making it easy for me to predict the future.

Did you ever stop to think it could be the other way around: some of
reality manages to get through to you where you weave into your
delustions??


November 14th...tick, tick, tick....

>

robbie_c

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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The hunky Reverend Jonathan Northwood wrote in message
<70ump5$sgk$5...@news-2.news.gte.net>...

>Brava! Brava! <sd - applause>

<blush> <choke> <gulp> You like me! You really like me!

>Congratulations, monsieur, you have completed successfully your final
>for the Famous Poet's Finishing School(tm).

Oh God! How I wish Mona could be here to share this honor with me. Not a day
goes by that I don't think of her.

>You may now use the FPFS(tm) slogan -- KOTLC/KOTRC/WIGFY.

Oh thank you! Thank you! Uhm...........Uh.............(translation?)

>And congratulations, once again.

I owe it all to that singing group, the...........ah..........what was their
name, again?

Brent W. Decoteau

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Oct 25, 1998, 2:00:00 AM10/25/98
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ezek...@my-dejanews.com wrote in article
<70vvgc$ee$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
: In article <01bdfecf$e6265880$73c932ce@decoteau>,

: "Brent W. Decoteau" <army...@soldier.net> wrote:
: > I just want to be sure I understand you...you are really serious about
: > arming ourselves and perhaps taking out a few heterosexuals in the
process
: > of showing that we aren't going to be kicked around anymore.
:
: In self defense. There is no need for so many gays to be bashed...if only
we
: arm ourselves with pepper spray, guns, or any other legal weapon. As I
said in
: my essay, "I Hate Babies":
:
: " Perhaps they [heteros] will think twice about "strolling" our
: neighborhoods, once...a basher is bashed back and roped
: to a tree in a queer area of a city park, entrails spilled
: onto his lap with a sign on his chest: "Homophobe". "

You know, I just want to say that even though I think that your views are
pretty radical (and that is simply an opinion), I think I understand where
you are coming from. In every situation there are those who will push the
envelope. Perhaps your (and I will use the word "extremist" simply to
frame a perspective) extremist views will not ultimately be the ones that
propel the gay community to a safer, healthier place in the world, but
without someone like you to push that envelope, perhaps many others would
simply remain complacent.

Many in here have called you crazy and nuts and so forth - I don't that's
true and I don't think it's called for, although confrontational is a word
that could be used to describe your posting :)

Here's hoping that one way or another we all achieve a common peace with
this madness that surrounds us.

J. Northwood

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:30:35 -0500, "robbie_c"
<bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:

>The hunky Reverend Jonathan Northwood

< blush >

You get a smiley face for that one.

>wrote in message
><70ump5$sgk$5...@news-2.news.gte.net>...

>>Brava! Brava! <sd - applause>

><blush> <choke> <gulp> You like me! You really like me!

But of course, dear lad, but of course!

>>Congratulations, monsieur, you have completed successfully your final
>>for the Famous Poet's Finishing School(tm).

>Oh God! How I wish Mona could be here to share this honor with me. Not a day
>goes by that I don't think of her.

Hmmmm -- Robbie, Mona couldn't hold a candle to you. Today is _your_
day -- revel in it.

>>You may now use the FPFS(tm) slogan -- KOTLC/KOTRC/WIGFY.

>Oh thank you! Thank you! Uhm...........Uh.............(translation?)

"Kissy on the left cheek, kissy on the right cheek, what_ever_ is good
for you." <smooch>

>>And congratulations, once again.

>I owe it all to that singing group, the...........ah..........what was their
>name, again?

The chiffons? (I'm hungry . . .)

ezek...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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In article <7104mf$51cu$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,
"robbie_c" <bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:

> By the way, I have printed and mailed a copy of your "Twenty Dollars A Slam"
> article to my attorney. "Defense Exhibit A, Your Honor!"

The agreement in my contract, is to first send me the $20, then slam me. Since
you did not send me the money, your case is invalid.

ezek...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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In article <70t67a$csms$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,
"robbie_c" <bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:

> >WARNING: Next on the Religious Reich's agenda: limited biological and
> >chemical attacks on all known queer communities...

> ~Paranoia strikes deep.

This is not paranoia...it is only logical deduction. I have mentioned this
likelihood to numerous people...many of whom replied, "It wouldn't surprise me
in the least."

> Time to get your prescription refilled, Zeke. You need to take your Zyprexa
> three times a day. Don't skip any doses.

Assuming you are fighting for gay rights...it does you no honor to slander
someone based on a perceived mental disability. For one minority to degrade
another, certainly plays into the hands of the Religious Reich. Try attacking
me in some manner that is ethically sound.

robbie_c

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler Ezekiel J. (Crawlin') Krahlin
ezek...@my-dejanews.com slurred and mumbled in message
<712em7$rl5$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <7104mf$51cu$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,

>the cute and boyish hunk "robbie_c" <bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:

>> By the way, I have printed and mailed a copy of your "Twenty Dollars A
Slam"
>> article to my attorney. "Defense Exhibit A, Your Honor!"
>
>The agreement in my contract, is to first send me the $20, then slam me.
Since
>you did not send me the money, your case is invalid.


Au contraire, mon idiot.

The article will serve to place an upper limit on the dollar value of your
<ahem> "reputation," which will be at issue in the trial.

Awaiting your subpoena...............

robbie_c

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler Ezekiel J. (Crwalin') Krahlin
ezek...@my-dejanews.com pleaded in message
<712ese$s25$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>...............Try attacking


>me in some manner that is ethically sound.


You're as nutty as a fruitcake. Your A.P.H. articles paint a clear picture.

It is not unethical to point this out to gullible people who might otherwise
take your ludicrous rantings seriously.

Remember........three times a day. Do not skip any doses.

ezek...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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In article <7130k6$da38$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,

"robbie_c" <bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:
> The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler Ezekiel J. (Crwalin') Krahlin
> ezek...@my-dejanews.com pleaded in message
> <712ese$s25$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>
> >...............Try attacking
> >me in some manner that is ethically sound.

> It is not unethical to point this out to gullible people who might otherwise


> take your ludicrous rantings seriously.

Calling me "paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler" is a very bigoted
remark, that is also slander, and can easily be proven, and won, in a court
of law. If you are gay, you just make yourself a shameful representative of
our community...whose stigmatization includes being labelled mentally
deranged. Yet you, who should know better, perpetrate the same sort of hatred
spewed by homophobes.

> Remember........three times a day. Do not skip any doses.

Vulgar is as vulgar does.

Ezekiel Krahlin

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:18:28 GMT, jona...@northwood.uce_is_icky.org
(J. Northwood) wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:27:31 -0400, "robbie_c"
><bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>>~Paranoia strikes deep.
>>~Into your life it will creep.
>>~It starts when you're always afraid.
>>~Step out of line, the man comes
>>~And takes you away.
>

>Brava! Brava! <sd - applause>

--------------------------------------------------------------
Permission granted by author for anyone to distribute this
writing free of charge (including translation into any
language)...under condition that no profit is made therefrom,
and that it remain intact and complete, including title and
credit to the original author.

Ezekiel J. Krahlin
ezek...@iname.com
--------------------------------------------------------------


BRING MY SOLDIER HOME TO ME
or
THE FLOWER OF VIET NAM

Š 1997 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin


My heart is over-tired, so I must sing this song:
Bring my soldier home to me; he's been gone too long.

Oh, bring my soldier home to me, with a smile on his face,
And a tear or two for me and you, as we march in place.

Oh, bring my soldier home to me; his home is in my heart!
Armageddon is The Wedding; know your part.

Oh, bring my Daddy home to me; I am his only son!
Uncleave my heart, unsheathe my tongue!
Plowshares to swords, faggots to Huns!
Butter to bullets, bread to guns!
(Gay Revolution has begun!)

Oh, bring my lover home to me; the Starving Vet of
Eighty-Four!
I nursed him back in Wash., D.C.; that's why he's still
alive!

Oh, bring my father home to me; the Light is drawing near!
Yea, though I dally in Eureka Valley, I shall have no fear!

Oh, bring my Randolph home to me; the coffee's on the stove!
His tears that fell for all Nam Vets have made His Wish
betrothed!


-----finis

Ezekiel Krahlin

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:22:24 GMT, she...@europa.nospam.com
(RavensHeart) wrote:

>Funny thing, if he's so famous, why can't I find anthing about him in
>any any search engine.

Randolph and his servants have seen to it that any records of him are
concealed. But I have a web site dedicated to him:

The Somalian Affair
http://www2.fortunecity.com/village/weaver/76/

There you will see articles about him, by the Washington Post, and
other prominent media centers. Randolph has also been excluded from
the gay history archives...a gross error soon to be corrected.

J. Northwood

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:50:16 GMT, ezek...@my-dejanews.com (Ezekiel
Krahlin) wrote:

< snip >

Meter's off, doesn't scan properly, poor use of terminology, lack of
rhythmic interpretation.

The best part:

>-----finis

2/10.

J. Northwood

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:29:13 GMT, ezek...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>Calling me "paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler" is a very bigoted
>remark, that is also slander, and can easily be proven, and won, in a court
>of law.

So you were lying _again_ when you said you were diagnosed as paranoid
and borderline schizophrenic? Just as you were lying when you said
you were on public assistance (and then retracted it, and then
restated it . . .)?

J. Northwood

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Oct 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/27/98
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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 03:42:40 +1100, "DRS"
<simp...@removethis.tig.com.au> wrote:

>J. Northwood wrote in message <714r2g$bbg$6...@news-2.news.gte.net>...

>Yes, but I don't recall where he said he was a carpenter...

Well, he claims to be Jesus reincarnated . . .

DRS

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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J. Northwood wrote in message <714r2g$bbg$6...@news-2.news.gte.net>...
:On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:29:13 GMT, ezek...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
:
:>Calling me "paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler" is a very bigoted
:>remark, that is also slander, and can easily be proven, and won, in a
court
:>of law.
:
:So you were lying _again_ when you said you were diagnosed as paranoid
:and borderline schizophrenic? Just as you were lying when you said
:you were on public assistance (and then retracted it, and then
:restated it . . .)?

Yes, but I don't recall where he said he was a carpenter...

--

Beware of the Spam-Dog

DRS

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Oct 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/28/98
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J. Northwood wrote in message <715gi6$jnp$2...@news-1.news.gte.net>...
:On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 03:42:40 +1100, "DRS"
:<simp...@removethis.tig.com.au> wrote:
:
:>J. Northwood wrote in message <714r2g$bbg$6...@news-2.news.gte.net>...
:
:Well, he claims to be Jesus reincarnated . . .

You make a great straight man (Boom! Boom! - two in one)

Ezekiel Krahlin

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:22:24 GMT, she...@europa.nospam.com
(RavensHeart) wrote:

>Funny thing, if he's so famous, why can't I find anthing about him in
>any any search engine.

You just don't know how to use search engines. A LOT of stuff comes
up, when one searches for "krahlin". Also, today, radio host Steve
Sean, from KUIC near Sacramento, interviewed me extensively, including
recording some of my poems and essays...which he then spliced, and
peppered the air waves with them, throughout the day. He will send me
a tape of this show...as his show does not reach S.F.. Steve had
originally contacted me a few days ago, and said he's so impressed by
my writings, he'd love to interview me. So it went...and I think it's
really neat, to have occurred on Hallowe'en.

I was also invited by a gay cable show, to recite one of my poems from
the Faggot Bible...so they video-taped my recital of "Read All About
It" today, at Harvey Milk Plaza.

So, not to worry, RavensFart: My popularity is about to increase in
quantum leaps...much to your chagrin.

Ezekiel Krahlin

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:03:35 GMT, jona...@northwood.uce_is_icky.org
(J. Northwood) wrote:

>So you were lying _again_ when you said you were diagnosed as paranoid
>and borderline schizophrenic?

Your vulgar regard of me, does not justify any explanation either pro
or con, that would in any way comply to your crude accusations. You're
a sorry excuse for a gay person.

RavensHeart

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 08:41:26 GMT, ezek...@my-dejanews.com (Ezekiel
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:22:24 GMT, she...@europa.nospam.com
>(RavensHeart) wrote:
>
>>Funny thing, if he's so famous, why can't I find anthing about him in
>>any any search engine.
>
>You just don't know how to use search engines. A LOT of stuff comes
>up, when one searches for "krahlin". Also, today, radio host Steve
>Sean, from KUIC near Sacramento, interviewed me extensively, including
>recording some of my poems and essays...which he then spliced, and
>peppered the air waves with them, throughout the day. He will send me
>a tape of this show...as his show does not reach S.F.. Steve had
>originally contacted me a few days ago, and said he's so impressed by
>my writings, he'd love to interview me. So it went...and I think it's
>really neat, to have occurred on Hallowe'en.
>
>I was also invited by a gay cable show, to recite one of my poems from
>the Faggot Bible...so they video-taped my recital of "Read All About
>It" today, at Harvey Milk Plaza.
>
>So, not to worry, RavensFart: My popularity is about to increase in
>quantum leaps...much to your chagrin.
>

You poor, pathetic freak. Did I say I was searching for "krahlin"???
No.
I was searching for Randolph Taylor, on every search engine there was.
You accuse me of not knowing how to use a search engine?
What a fucking laugh.
You couldn't even read my post correctly.

And I did look at your web site for Taylor as you said.
I still believe your "romance" with him was mostly in your head.
From his letters, I'd say he was pretty much humoring you.

I am happy you are having your moment in the sun. Enjoy it. It will
end as soon as you start babbling on about gaydonia, the dome over the
city, the blue rose warriors, etc. etc. etc.

Don't start playing Nostradamus or it'll be over as fast as you can
say: "but...but..."

tick....tick....tick....your time's almost up, jesus krahlin. We're
all waiting for those predictions of yours to come true.

Oh fuck!!! What's THAT!!!! OH NO!!!! IT'S THE ARCHANGEL TYPING
THROUGH ZEKE'S FINGERS COME TO TAKE POSSESSION OF ME.....
HEEEeeelllllpppp>>>>>>>>>>

Hello. I am the Archangel that speaks through my prophet, Ezekiel.
Why do you bother this poor man so. Can't you see he is mentally ill?
Can't you see he has but a tentative grip on reality? I will elevate
him in the days to come. I will elevate him onto the rail of the
Golden Gate Bridge, where he will jump, convinced that he can fly.
I will try to give him wings, but alas, he will ask me if I'm gay.
And when I say no, he will push himself away from me screaming,
"Hetero, Hetero".
Ooops.
Buy-bye zeke.

~ Zeke-aroni
~ the San Francisco Schiz

RavensHeart

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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 08:41:22 GMT, ezek...@my-dejanews.com (Ezekiel
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:03:35 GMT, jona...@northwood.uce_is_icky.org
>(J. Northwood) wrote:
>
>>So you were lying _again_ when you said you were diagnosed as paranoid
>>and borderline schizophrenic?
>
>Your vulgar regard of me, does not justify any explanation either pro
>or con, that would in any way comply to your crude accusations. You're
>a sorry excuse for a gay person.
>

Hey, Jon, what do you think about that.
ROTFLMAO

robbie_c

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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The paranoid schizophrenic welfare chiseler with delusions of grandeur
Ezekiel J. (Crawlin') Krahlin (a.k.a. "The Son of God") once again refused
to answer a direct question in message
<363bc336...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>...
>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:03:35 GMT, the hunky Reverend Jon, whose mere
presence causes his congregation's naughty parts to become engorged and
tingling, jona...@northwood.uce_is_icky.org
>(J. Northwood) asked:

>>So you were lying _again_ when you said you were diagnosed as paranoid
>>and borderline schizophrenic?
>
>Your vulgar regard of me, does not justify any explanation either pro
>or con, that would in any way comply to your crude accusations. You're
>a sorry excuse for a gay person.
>

Well, idiot Zeke, for once (and I do mean 'once'), you are correct. Jon IS a


sorry excuse for a gay person.

He's straight, you moron. Every regular poster in A.P.H. knows that.

Do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do.
[The opening notes from "The Twilight Zone" theme.]

Ward Stewart

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 08:41:22 GMT, ezek...@my-dejanews.com (Ezekiel
Krahlin) wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:03:35 GMT, jona...@northwood.uce_is_icky.org
>(J. Northwood) wrote:
>
>>So you were lying _again_ when you said you were diagnosed as paranoid
>>and borderline schizophrenic?
>
>Your vulgar regard of me, does not justify any explanation either pro
>or con, that would in any way comply to your crude accusations. You're
>a sorry excuse for a gay person.

But you DID tell us that you were paranoid and a borderline
schizophrenic. You further explained that by reason of these
psychiatric diseases you were collecting public monies and that.
furthermore, you were refusing the treatment and medication that might
relieve you of your disability and remove you from the public tit.

BTW -- is armageddon still scheduled for the fourteenth? Thirteen
days and counting!


ward


-------------------------------------------------------------
The 1964 Civil Rights Act is "the single most dangerous piece
of legislation ever introduced in the Congress"

He later opposed a national holiday for that
"pervert" Martin Luther King Jr.
Who but? Jesse Helms
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ezek...@my-dejanews.com

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Nov 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/2/98
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In article <71id0t$2sjg$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>,

"robbie_c" <bdcp...@epic.prodigy.net> wrote:
> He's straight, you moron. Every regular poster in A.P.H. knows that.

He's still a sorry excuse...period. Also, he's your typical arrogant hetero,
who feels he can push his weight around, just because he's found some gay
"buddies" to lick his rectum. So now, the cock o' the newsgroup.

ezek...@my-dejanews.com

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In article <3641b45b...@news.hi.net>,

wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) wrote:
> But you DID tell us that you were paranoid and a borderline
> schizophrenic.

I said I was *diagnosed with these symptoms. I did not say that I agree with
the doctors' findings. Just as I believe, many gays diagnosed positive for
AIDS, really are negative...but are being used like laboratory rats by our
heterocentric medical and military communities.

> You further explained that by reason of these
> psychiatric diseases you were collecting public monies and that.

You really enjoying skewing the truth, Wart! I am not "collecting"
monies...but receiving what is due me, in a society that condemns and
villifies people deemed mentally disabled. Since this prejudice effectively
wipes out one's job opportunities, I carved out my own sort of meaningful
work. This would be my volunteer work for gay civil rights and the homeless.

I now also accept donations for my activism...which I then distribute among
the gay homeless, or use in some other manner to support my political
activities. Not even one red cent goes to making any profit, or to my
personal gain. All donations go to my activism, period. I have so far
received $90, but I expect the trickle to finally grow into a waterfall in
due time.

> furthermore, you were refusing the treatment and medication that might
> relieve you of your disability and remove you from the public tit.

I suggest you keep your nose out of my personal and medical history. You have
no idea what kind of treatment I receive...but I assure you, I am. It does
*not, however, include any of those horrible chemicals that lobotomize and
stupidify the patient.

You insist on painting me as a "bum" or "freeloader", by using terms like
"public tit". Whatever. You only prove to the world how right-wing and
bigoted you are, towards those classified as mentally disabled. Eventually,
people will wake up to the fact that you are really not much of a friend to
the gay community.

> BTW -- is armageddon still scheduled for the fourteenth? Thirteen
> days and counting!

I never said "armageddon"...I said some remarkable events will occur by then,
and cause incredible changes and growth in the human condition...and that gays
will be the vanguard to this revolution.

wo...@interlog.com

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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 03:31:01 GMT, ezek...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>In article <3641b45b...@news.hi.net>,
> wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) wrote:
>> But you DID tell us that you were paranoid and a borderline
>> schizophrenic.
>
>I said I was *diagnosed with these symptoms. I did not say that I agree with
>the doctors' findings.

...thereby proving their accuracy.

RavensHeart

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Actually, what you said on September 15th was:


>Randolph, *my Randolph, will show up with an army of lesbian and gay
>soldiers. I will at all times be surrounded and protected by a core of
>these soldiers...who will be armed, and who will escort me to any
>restaurant I want, to eat anything I want, for free. We will be
>redistributing monies so that no gay man or woman go homeless, or
>without good medical care, and friends. This will begin our own form
>of gay welfare and underground economy. It will rapidly go beyond the
>confines of S.F., and become a national grassroots movement.

>
>A network of gay revolutionary vanguards will form around the planet,
>and cause sweeping victories around the world. We will take over most
>of the media. Some of you now reading this message, will become part
>of this network...which is telepathic, and which I call The Blue Rose
>Militia. The awareness that has dawned in my heart and mind, will
>likewise dawn in many other gays. This is not a dream, but a wonderful
>reality we are entering. The human race has only a great future ahead,
>with gays as the vanguards.
>
>I had a vision some years ago, that the gods and goddesses of all
>cultures would rise up in my defense, over the Peanuts issue. Well, it
>looks like the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund will get me a crackerjack
>lawyer who specializes in First Amendment issues. Now, who are our
>contemporary deities? Comic book characters, of course...especially
>since children are far more inspired by them, than by any church
>teachings! Superwoman, Superman, Green Hornet, and so many others!
>Let's face it...even as adults, we love our comic books. They give us
>joy, refreshment, introspection, and a general escape from mundane
>reality. These are truly gods devoted to lighten our hearts...and now,
>they shall take a stand for *my victory, for *our victory.
>
>I think that, once something amazing happens around me, then those in
>this thread are likely to bombard me with all sorts of questions. My
>visions have shown me that miracles will be worked through and around
>me, in the light of day...so that no one could question what they saw,
>or disbelieve that I am extraordinary, and that I summon the angels to
>our world. A new religion shall be born through me, and a new Bible. I
>can only be joyful and amazed at this awesome gift...and gift which
>others equally deserve, and some even more so! Yet, for whatever
>reason, I have been chosen to be the catalyst. If I am truly God's
>only son, then of course you know He is only showing favoritism.
>
>Keep in mind that I am touching upon mysterious aspects one could
>regard as "magical" or "transcendental". And without any shame or
>hesitation I say: "Magic *is the way of the universe." Let me stop
>here, for now, so you can digest what I've said thus far. I am here to
>answer any and all questions. I am here to serve the gay community,
>and to bring it to a victorious climax that will astound the world. By
>the time I'm through, Gay Pride shall be so overwhelming, that every
>Catholic woman will pray nightly that her next child will be gay. Mea
>culpa, mea culpa!


tick...tick...tick....

Ward Stewart

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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 07:29:16 GMT, wo...@interlog.com wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 03:31:01 GMT, ezek...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>>In article <3641b45b...@news.hi.net>,
>> wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) wrote:
>>> But you DID tell us that you were paranoid and a borderline
>>> schizophrenic.
>>
>>I said I was *diagnosed with these symptoms. I did not say that I agree with
>>the doctors' findings.
>

>...thereby proving their accuracy.


It must be added that he would seem to have agreed with the doctor's
findings that placed him on SSI or disability or whatever.

If you are NOT ill, get the hell off the dole. The monies allocated
for such purposes will be better spent on these who ARE ill and who
deserve our support without scammers and free-loaders draining it off.

ward

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"Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage, but it is nothing to be
ashamed of, no vice, no degradation; it cannot be classified as an
illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function...
Many highly respectable individuals of ancient and modern times have
been homosexuals, several of the greatest men among them (Plato,
Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, etc.). It is a great injustice to
persecute homosexuality as a crime -and a cruelty, too."
--Sigmund Freud

"To undertake to convert a fully developed homosexual into a
heterosexual does not offer much more prospect for success than the
reverse, except that for good practical reasons the latter is never
attempted."
--Sigmund Freud, 1856-1939
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