I now rule HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Kreagers
young felt at the time of his death . I think when it comes to condemning people
to hell , you should keep your damn mouth shut , unless your God . Because I
have a feeling you maybe finding yourself there for your hateful acts .
Amy
Dr. Plastik wrote:
> Matthew Shepard from Hell wrote:
> >
> > If I had listened to Fred Phelps, I still be alive.....
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > [Image]
>
> Man you are SICK!!!!!
>
> Delila
>
> Scott A. Bregi
>
> '99 Passat GLS 1.8T W/Tiptronic
> Satin Silver Met
--
"Who Ever Saves One Life Saves The World Entire."
The Kreagers
guess you couldn't tell by the name Amy . As for being Christian , I don't
know that I'd go that far , yes I believe in God , but I do not believe in
organized religion . As for being a hypocrite , I don't think so , I'm very
firm in my belief that you shouldn't judge people by their color , race ,
handicap , religion or sexual orientation . I do believe that everyone should
be able to express their opinion freely and with fear . I also believe that as
a county we need to wipe out racism and hate . People like you are truly doing
this country more harm than good .
Amy
PwccaPanther wrote:
> Yeah ,and you with your with your hypocritical pseudo incompetent
> christianity lie to fail to justify and bigoted bullshit that is just
> stupidYes you will be in hell too for NOT turning your other cheek or
> loving your enemies enough not being christlike..LOL (You are the one
> who fears hell,right) Enjoy getting fucked up the ass by Matthew
> Shepard as a demon with jesus's face and a with a HUGE dick.
> You go pull that homophobic shit in a leather bar full of real
> sadists and you will feel your cross carry your burden and you will
> feel the pain of what it means to be a christian with his head crammed
> up his ass by a bunch of big biker guys who would stomp the likes of
> you..boy..Go ahead suffer for your god,I'd be glad to torture the
> likes of idiot puffed up masochist like you.I would shoot you if there
> wasen't a law protecting your sorry ass.
> Psst...I'm born female,still female and married. but a saditic bitch
> when it comes to christian twits....punch,slap, bones
> crunch!!!!!BwaahahahaHaHAhhhaaa!!
>
> Matthew Shepard from Hell wrote:
> >
> > If I had listened to Fred Phelps, I still be alive.....
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Name: shepardinhell.gif
> > shepardinhell.gif Type: GIF Image (image/gif)
> > Encoding: base64
Dr. Plastik
>
> If I had listened to Fred Phelps, I still be alive.....
>
Audy Morgan
argument for "pro-choice". Do the world a favor, kill yourself
Audy Morgan au...@gay2000.com
Matthew Shepard from Hell wrote in message
<3628C827...@isinhell.org>...
PwccaPanther
christianity lie to fail to justify and bigoted bullshit that is just
stupidYes you will be in hell too for NOT turning your other cheek or
loving your enemies enough not being christlike..LOL (You are the one
who fears hell,right) Enjoy getting fucked up the ass by Matthew
Shepard as a demon with jesus's face and a with a HUGE dick.
You go pull that homophobic shit in a leather bar full of real
sadists and you will feel your cross carry your burden and you will
feel the pain of what it means to be a christian with his head crammed
up his ass by a bunch of big biker guys who would stomp the likes of
you..boy..Go ahead suffer for your god,I'd be glad to torture the
likes of idiot puffed up masochist like you.I would shoot you if there
wasen't a law protecting your sorry ass.
Psst...I'm born female,still female and married. but a saditic bitch
when it comes to christian twits....punch,slap, bones
crunch!!!!!BwaahahahaHaHAhhhaaa!!
Matthew Shepard from Hell wrote:
>
> If I had listened to Fred Phelps, I still be alive.....
>
Malachi
on alt.satanism. I have seen sophomoric posts, trolling, threats, and
assorted other intellectual masturbations...
But you take the prize...
You are NOT a Satanist...
Malachi
PwccaPanther
one who posted that crappy picture of Shepard will NOT make them go
away.
Since there are so many petty type laws that infringe free expression
the points of racism and what it is based in is hyped up with
propaganda and moralistic truisms.
I think people should have the right to seperate if they want to and
those who wish not to seperate not be forced to seperate.
I think if everyone had true control over whom they chose to associate
themselves with or not to the tension would be less.
Asthetics and cultural differences.
These things are linked with how you identify yourself your basis of
an ego which links to personal survival perceptions.
People will react when they percieve a suirvival threat because like
it or not personal survival matters most of all because It's the
highest law..
Because the racist feels his environment is becoming unfamiliar and he
is resricted about excluding people he does not recognise as part of
himself,he reacts.Black people ARE different than whites.Asthetically
,culturally different.
Multiculturalists are just like the racist but an inverse reactionary
egalitaian intolerant of intolerance multicultural Racists.
I personally have no need to go out and kill blacks or homosexuals or
whatever .
I prefer my own race to associate with not in a racist way but
preferences based in personal culture that is familiar comforting and
preferred to me and reasons of asthetics.
If I was forced to deal with a culture I was not identified with for
"my own good" I would react .
Because it effects my standard of what is culturally familiar and
asthetic to me only it does not have to apply to the whole world just
me.racists want the world thier way just like xtians.I would in my
self created environment,exclude firstly assholes and criminals,next
would be judeo-christians( they are criminals in my veiw as well)
cultures I do not relate to,athetics that are not my choices.if my
land is mine I should be able to exclude ANYONE for any reasons.
Is this evil ??This exclusion based on my whim for my home or my
property or business???
Is making your enviroment suit your own needs and feathering your own
nest with your own self 's preferences evil if it is comforting and
leads to personal happiness?
Who would have a problem if a bunch of black people got together
bought a big tract of land put up a fence and had a self sustained all
black community that let no asians or whites in.Now put
Erasists,multiculturalists,or asians in control of that community, try
whites,gays...
Who does it offend??
Who would demand to be included in such a place that they were barred
from and why would it matter if thier group had thier place too?.
Alt.Satanism isn't for gay bashing,it can be foer christian
bashing,this is my group of origin.I did not intend to post that reply
to the guy who made the burn in hell gif to soc. mtoss or radio talk.I
sent it to alt.xtian,alt Satanism and politics homosexual if it
bounced or somthing weird my apologies to the unrelated groups.
Thanks,Underground Panther
PETER C HARTIKKA
Jason, here's another recruit for you!
Matthew Shepard from Hell <matthew...@isinhell.org> wrote in article
<3628C827...@isinhell.org>...
Ezekiel Krahlin
<jus...@intersatx.net> wrote:
>If your speaking to me , I want you to know that I'm a straight woman , I
>guess you couldn't tell by the name Amy . As for being Christian , I don't
>know that I'd go that far , yes I believe in God , but I do not believe in
>organized religion .
> I also believe that as
>a county we need to wipe out racism and hate . People like you are truly doing
>this country more harm than good .
As a heterosexual, you have no say in what gays should or shouldn't
do. We're sick and tired of being defined by straights, as to who and
what we really are. Your influence over gay matters is now
zilch...same goes for all other heteros and semi-hets (a.k.a.
bisexuals). Your reign of terror is rapidly coming to a close...and
now, gays will rule the roost.
Your denouncing an outraged gay's comments as not helping things
any...is totally incorrect. Your kind of straight I call "friendly
fire"...every bit as deadly as the virulent homophobic right
wing...just a lot more devious.
---
God's shit doesn't stink, but everyone else's does.
Think about it.
---
I cum like a thief in the night!
The Final Testament, a Bible by and for Gays only:
http://members.xoom.com/ezekielk/
GodHates...@HetBeGone.com
---
Charles Schulz's lawyers are after my ass
for my gay-rights parody of Peanuts!
http://www.2xtreme.net/jwd/k6/copyrite.htm
Ezekiel Krahlin
wrote:
>You go pull that homophobic shit in a leather bar full of real
>sadists and you will feel your cross carry your burden and you will
>feel the pain of what it means to be a christian with his head crammed
>up his ass by a bunch of big biker guys who would stomp the likes of
>you..boy..
You'd make a fine addition to our team:
--------------------------------------------------------------
Permission granted by author for anyone to distribute this
writing free of charge (including translation into any
language)...under condition that no profit is made therefrom,
and that it remain intact and complete, including title and
credit to the original author.
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
ezek...@iname.com
--------------------------------------------------------------
THE BLUE ROSE MILITIA (world's first *queer* militia)
Š 1997 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
(Jehovah's Queer Witness)
(Note: The word "Thracian" is used throughout this manifesto,
as an empowering adjective intended to replace the word "Gay
Male". Likewise for "Hellenic" and "Hellene" to replace "Gay"
in general, as in "Gay Community". Credit for the idea of
"Hellenic" goes to Fireweaver, an Internet friend.)
Founded December 1, 1996 by Hellenic Rights activist
Ezekiel Krahlin (formerly Gene Catalano), The Blue Rose
Militia is a ParaNormalMilitary organization dedicated to the
defense of homosexual civil rights within the borders of the
United States Of America. It seeks to establish Northern
California as a safe haven for the homosexual populace and its
refugees...via new and inviolable federal and state laws, or
through secession and formation of a new nation. The Militia
is a loosely bound federation of community clusters throughout
the nation, whose leadership is entrusted to the inspiration
of each local group. This new alliance is born of outraged
response to President Clinton's signing of the notorious
"Defense Of Marriage Act."
The Blue Rose Militia encourages all Thracians and
Lesbians, their heterosexual supporters--and other
non-heterosexist types--to bear arms at all times, in order to
protect one's self and one's friends, from the outrageous
brutality of a homophobic populace. The Militia implores its
advocates to carry pepper spray as a minimal deterrent from
violent attacks...and supports the legal acquisition of more
serious arms for the sake of self defense.
While The Militia does encourage members and sympathizers
to bear arms, to a greater degree it supports the application
of creative genius to achieve its goals of homosexual
liberation.
To become a member: apply the emblem of a blue rose to a
camouflage jacket--wear this jacket for one full day--and you
become a member. This simple gesture indicates your sincerity
to help the cause of homosexual civil rights... and will link
your spirit to the telepathic network that is The Blue Rose
Militia. You will then--through dreams, ideas, or psychic
signals--receive inspirations to perform actions that further
Lesbian/Thracian liberation. You will also be showered with a
thousand blessings of gratitude by the angelic forces...but
that is merely frosting on the cake (or "wings on the
toaster," so to speak). Please note that if you do not
believe in angels or psychic forces, you are still welcome to
contribute your own actions to the cause. The Blue Rose
Militia respects all religions and world views--including
atheistic and agnostic perceptions--and will never reject
anyone on grounds of personal beliefs...except those that
preach malicious intent to harm others (such as Satanic,
terrorist, bible-thumping, pedophiliac, or hard drug cults).
Create your own blue rose patch on a circle of scrap
cloth two to three inches in diameter, and paint, draw, or
embroider the rose. (Or find a patch with a rose design, and
color the rose blue.) Attach to jacket with velcro or safety
pin. Or find an old political button--paint a blue rose over
the original design--and pin it on. Any other method to create
a blue rose logo is acceptable. The ideal design for the logo
is: a single sky-blue rose with lime-green stem and two
leaves, on a wine-red background. Blue stands for loyalty,
red for life force, and green for healing powers.
None of the inspirations you receive will violate your
own values and beliefs, or interfere in any significant way
with your vocation or personal relations...unless you
specifically desire to live out a more wild and free-spirited
adventure. Examples of inspired actions: financial donation
to a Hellene group, speaking out against a homophobic slur,
reading an informative book on homosexuality, freely copying
and distributing this Blue Rose Militia bulletin, reaching out
to a homosexual acquaintance, writing a letter to a newspaper,
wearing a homo-supportive T-shirt, calling a radio talk show,
participating in a pro-homosexual demonstration, attaching
pro-gay stickers to outgoing mail, or even starting or joining
an auxiliary Blue Rose Militia in your own neighborhood. You
may even have a special calling above and beyond the examples
herein...in such a case, let your conscience be your guide. I
give no further examples, in order that your inspiration may
remain unfettered, and your imagination soar!
The Blue Rose Militia places absolute trust into the
hands of anyone so inspired...and requires no report from any
member, or conferral, before he or she takes action. Should a
member choose to confer with another, that is fine...and for
that reason local groups may be formed and dissolved in
spontaneous fashion, without first consulting the founder or
its headquarters. Wear the blue rose logo anywhere on your
person, backpack, briefcase, or purse (camouflage jacket is
optional after the first time worn). In this manner, you will
meet other members who recognize the emblem.
-----finis
Clayton Colwell
: As a heterosexual, you have no say in what gays should or shouldn't
: do. We're sick and tired of being defined by straights, as to who and
: what we really are. Your influence over gay matters is now
: zilch...same goes for all other heteros and semi-hets (a.k.a.
: bisexuals). Your reign of terror is rapidly coming to a close...and
: now, gays will rule the roost.
Hey, Zeke, take your scorched-earth policies and piss off.
****** Clay Colwell (aka StealthSmurf) ********** er...@bga.com ******
* "In the future, we will recognize software crashes as technologically *
* mandated ergonomic rest breaks - and we will pay extra for them." *
* -- Crazy Uncle Joe Hannibal *
Brent Decoteau
<362a4...@feed1.realtime.net>...
: Ezekiel Krahlin (ezek...@my-dejanews.com) wrote:
:
: : As a heterosexual, you have no say in what gays should or shouldn't
: : do. We're sick and tired of being defined by straights, as to who and
: : what we really are. Your influence over gay matters is now
: : zilch...same goes for all other heteros and semi-hets (a.k.a.
: : bisexuals). Your reign of terror is rapidly coming to a close...and
: : now, gays will rule the roost.
:
: Hey, Zeke, take your scorched-earth policies and piss off.
YEAH! What he said! :)
Gene Ward Smith
ezek...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>As a heterosexual, you have no say in what gays should or shouldn't
>do.
As an idiot, you have no say in what anyone should or shouldn't do.
--
Gene Ward Smith
gsm...@blazenetme.net
SUNNY BOY
I don't understand the post!
Willwork4food
Brent Decoteau wrote:
> Clayton Colwell <er...@bga.com> wrote in article
> <362a4...@feed1.realtime.net>...
> : Ezekiel Krahlin (ezek...@my-dejanews.com) wrote:
> :
> : : As a heterosexual, you have no say in what gays should or shouldn't
> : : do. We're sick and tired of being defined by straights, as to who and
> : : what we really are. Your influence over gay matters is now
> : : zilch...same goes for all other heteros and semi-hets (a.k.a.
> : : bisexuals). Your reign of terror is rapidly coming to a close...and
> : : now, gays will rule the roost.
> :
> : Hey, Zeke, take your scorched-earth policies and piss off.
>
> YEAH! What he said! :)
careful! If your wrong, it could be your ass!
ameri...@usa.net
get them to go away. I never got to see that theory tested though. Because
always people respond. So I still think that maybe if everyone ignored the
rabid idiots they really would get bored and just leave. I won't hold my
breath waiting though. Always people respond.
But along the way I found I actually enjoy the rabid idiots, in a perverse
sort of way. It's the old cliche, laughing "at" instead of laughing "with."
These numbskulls parade in front of us like a veritable zoo of the inane. I
swear I feel like I'm at the zoo. "Look, Martha, there's a homophobic
Neanderthal! Note the sloping forehead."
Yours in Satan,
Americo of the Apocalypse
In article <3629F7CE...@erols.com>,
--
Americo of the Apocalypse
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
ameri...@usa.net
or replace your use of the word "Satanic" in your manifesto? You see, I am a
Satanist, and the system I follow has not a shred of homophobia in it. Quite
the opposite, in fact. Here is a quote from the Satanic Bible:
"Satanism condones any type of sexual activity which properly satisfies your
individual desires--be it heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or even asexual
if you choose. Satanism also sanctions any fetish or deviation which will
enhance your sex life, so long as it involves no one who does not wish to be
involved."
- Anton Szandor LaVey, "The Satanic Bible," pg. 67 (1969)
Next year will mark the 30th anniversary of one of the most unambiguous
declarations of human freedom ever published. We who follow this system do
not fit the statement you make in your manifesto.
Yours in Satan,
Americo of the Apocalypse
In article <362a32c8...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>,
ezek...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:41:30 -0400, PwccaPanther <pum...@erols.com>
> wrote:
>
> >You go pull that homophobic shit in a leather bar full of real
> >sadists and you will feel your cross carry your burden and you will
> >feel the pain of what it means to be a christian with his head crammed
> >up his ass by a bunch of big biker guys who would stomp the likes of
> >you..boy..
>
> You'd make a fine addition to our team:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Permission granted by author for anyone to distribute this
> writing free of charge (including translation into any
> language)...under condition that no profit is made therefrom,
> and that it remain intact and complete, including title and
> credit to the original author.
>
> Ezekiel J. Krahlin
> ezek...@iname.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> THE BLUE ROSE MILITIA (world's first *queer* militia)
>
> © 1997 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
Ezekiel Krahlin
>I think your blue rose solidarity is a great Idea.Keep
>it up.I live in the Baltimore area If you want do sent
>your stuff out to the citypaper and baltimore gay
>paper if you haven't already.Set up a booth at gay
>pride and sell rose patches and camo jackets .
I am an originator of ideas...this is my gift. I'll leave it to others
to produce the patches, T-shirt's,
etc....and send me 1% of all sales made. Otherwise, as a low-income
person on disability, I do not have the capital (or social network)
necessary to make such a transition without winding up homeless. But
thanks for your ideas, just the same.
>Next, I AM a"semi het." so is my boyfreind.WE are
>BISEXUAL.And do not need gays as well as straights
>having a problem with OUR flavor.I see
>a bit of self decietful hypocrasy here..maybe *gasp*
>bigotry.....
Bisexuals do not have any claim on gay rights...and it is time that
they, along with other hets and semi-hets, stop telling us gays who
and what we are. Unless you are a "Kinsey 6" (100% gay), you do not
have a genuine idea of the kind of suffering and intolerance we true
gays have. I believe in putting back the "gay" into gay rights.Just
like a straight person who fights for gay rights: bisexuals should
simply roll up their sleeves and get into the fray...rather than waste
our gay energies, monies, and time, by building your own bisexual
agenda...which also steals our symbols and takes credit for the hard
work and sacrifice of many, many true gays.
>Next WE pwccaman and myself are SATANIC we do not want
>the blessing bs.
How about "blessed be" then? I am a universalist, who is designing a
bible that respects *all beliefs, including atheism and Satanism. In
some very real ways, I'm a Satanist myself. I am bits and pieces of
many religions and world views.
>I ask you, Why do some Gay and Bi people STILL cling
>to the fucked up RELIGION of christ that hates them
>and rejects them in thier own 2,000 year old
>cheesy assholey book?
Because the story of Christ can be the story of every person...as we
are all crucified in any number of ways, just by sheer consciousness
in reality. But I do not attend any church or any other "christian"
gathering...as even the more "liberal" ones still remain rather stodgy
and lifeless.
Also, since our most serious problem re. homophobia, comes from a
large segment of influential KKKristians...it is important to
counter-attack on their own level. Thus, using the bible to defend
gays is a very important tactic. Now, I'm not saying *everyone should
do this...but I do wish so many (supposedly) pro-gay people wouldn't
be so dimwitted as to think those gays among us who use the bible in
our defense, are stupid and don't know what we're doing!
>Who are you trying to convince by all the religious
>brownnosing that you are gay but good people too to?
>The bigots??
Well, I don't use any of the tactics you gave examples of. I tell
homophobes to fuck off...I don't say God still loves us. I say God is
gay, and He and His Son are lovers...and they will soon avenge the gay
community.
>Aw,shit why try relying on the bibble the bigots know
>the bible better than you do.
Oh, really? They know the bible better than me? Then you haven't read
much of my articles here in my Usent participation for almost two
years now. I am a student of world religions and world views...and do
know the Jewish and Christian bibles quite well...along with many
other religious scripts (such as Popul Vuh and the Bardo).
Why on earth you want to give so much undeserved credit to fucked-up
KKKristians--by claiming they are so well-versed in either bible--is
beyond me. For another thing: it just isn't true...these
Christo-Creeps don't even *read the passages they claim is relevant to
the gay issue. If they did, they could not justify their gay hatred.
>Get off jesus's cosmic tit of lies and pipedreams and
>live for your own happiness not some bullshit that
>some other person defined FOR you.
Ill advice misplaced in my direction! You *think you know what I'm
about, but you really do not.
>God ain't real neither is Satan.
Oh, well, I believe they are real...but not in the fashion of how
conventional KKKristians define them. Satan is one of God's most
faithful servants. Jesus was formerly Apollo, and other beings.
>The homophobia is straight from the mouth of the god
>you grovel to.
I do not grovel to God, or to any other deity. If anything, He grovels
to me. Your denunciation of all Christians is not very effective, as
it is stuck in the same ol' "us vs. them" rut...and you really need to
invent far more effective methods to beat down the beast of
homophobia...whose arrogance infects many other groups besides the
Christian ones (including Satanism and atheism).
>Sounds like you need a trip to the leather bar to get
>it out of your system.
That's disgusting. I find the S&M and/or leather trip an incredibly
jaded, stereotyped, and commercialized vesion of being gay. Of course,
hets and semi-hets would interpret such bars (and all gay bars in
general)as typical of the gay lifestyle. This is untrue! As I stated
earlier in this message: stop defining who and what we gays really
are...when you yourself are part of the hetero regime.
I advise you read some more of my web site's materials, before you fly
off the handle and rate me as something other than what I am. We gays
are sick and tired of it. Go take your bisexual hypocrisy where it
will be accepted: the hetero community. You're one of them, far more
than you're one of us!
Daniel Vena
Daniel Vena
CLARKE
>Bisexuals do not have any claim on gay rights...and it is time that
>they, along with other hets and semi-hets, stop telling us gays who
>and what we are. Unless you are a "Kinsey 6" (100% gay), you do not
>have a genuine idea of the kind of suffering and intolerance we true
>gays have. I believe in putting back the "gay" into gay rights.Just
>like a straight person who fights for gay rights: bisexuals should
>simply roll up their sleeves and get into the fray...rather than waste
>our gay energies, monies, and time, by building your own bisexual
>agenda...which also steals our symbols and takes credit for the hard
>work and sacrifice of many, many true gays.
I was under the impression that gay rights were about the right to have
relationships with the opposite sex without suffering for it, not a set of
rights to be given to anyone who successfully passes a "homosexuality test".
What about somebody who's about 4 or 5 on the Kinsey scale, yet in a full
time homosexual relationship?
As far as bisexuals having to suffer less I don't really see this.
Firstly how much you suffer is mainly within your own control, in most areas
just being with a partner of the same sex won't make you a target. However
to the minority who will target somebody just for having an interest in
same-sex relationships, in my experience they will become more offensive if
they see a non-heterosexual with a member of the opposite sex. Also when it
comes to long term abuse, I find it highly unlikely that a group or
individual would take the amount of heterosexual relationships somebody had
had into consideration before decided to harass them for having had
homosexual relationships.
>>Next WE pwccaman and myself are SATANIC we do not want
>>the blessing bs.
>
>How about "blessed be" then? I am a universalist, who is designing a
>bible that respects *all beliefs, including atheism and Satanism. In
>some very real ways, I'm a Satanist myself. I am bits and pieces of
>many religions and world views.
>
It's amazing how many people are a "bit of everything" and use this to
irritate others. By the way why do you find it okay to be a bit of
everything religiously but not sexually.
>>I ask you, Why do some Gay and Bi people STILL cling
>>to the fucked up RELIGION of christ that hates them
>>and rejects them in thier own 2,000 year old
>>cheesy assholey book?
>
>Because the story of Christ can be the story of every person...as we
>are all crucified in any number of ways, just by sheer consciousness
>in reality. But I do not attend any church or any other "christian"
>gathering...as even the more "liberal" ones still remain rather stodgy
>and lifeless.
Ultimately Christ chose to be crucified, and it only becomes your personal
story if you let it. I personally have a fetish for crucifixtion (with
nails) but because I recognise this I am able to recognise that I am
sexually excited by something which would in reality be damaging and not try
and subconciously cause myself problems, in an attempt to be "crucified by
proxy".
>Also, since our most serious problem re. homophobia, comes from
>a large segment of influential KKKristians...it is important to
>counter-attack on their own level. Thus, using the bible to defend
>gays is a very important tactic. Now, I'm not saying *everyone should
>do this...but I do wish so many (supposedly) pro-gay people wouldn't
>be so dimwitted as to think those gays among us who use the bible > in our
defense, are stupid and don't know what we're doing!
This tactic still results in propogating the Christian lies which condemn us
in the first place. A lot of people still see religion as an excuse rather
than a reason. I'm of the opinion that most of the people who hate
homosexuals are like they are because they need to see somebody as inferior
due to their own sense of inferiority, if you manage to argue against their
position with biblical quotes you won't sway their emotional attachment to
their hatred and will strengthen the religious framework around us.
>>God ain't real neither is Satan.
>
>Oh, well, I believe they are real...but not in the fashion of how
>conventional KKKristians define them. Satan is one of God's most
>faithful servants. Jesus was formerly Apollo, and other beings.
>
>>The homophobia is straight from the mouth of the god
>>you grovel to.
>I do not grovel to God, or to any other deity. If anything, He grovels
>to me. Your denunciation of all Christians is not very effective, as
>it is stuck in the same ol' "us vs. them" rut...and you really need to
>invent far more effective methods to beat down the beast of
>homophobia...whose arrogance infects many other groups besides
>the Christian ones (including Satanism and atheism).
And you are still stuck in the love almost everyone while putting them all
down rut.
>>Sounds like you need a trip to the leather bar to get
>>it out of your system.
>
>That's disgusting. I find the S&M and/or leather trip an incredibly
>jaded, stereotyped, and commercialized vesion of being gay.
There you go attacking others again. Just because they don't entirely agree
with your view of homosexuality you have to criticise.
>Of course,
>hets and semi-hets would interpret such bars (and all gay bars in
>general)as typical of the gay lifestyle. This is untrue! As I stated
>earlier in this message: stop defining who and what we gays really
>are...when you yourself are part of the hetero regime.
It depends whose gay lifestyle you're talking about, remember everyone is an
individual, you complain about being stereotyped when really you seem to
want to be the one stereotyping others
>We gays are sick and tired of it. Go take your bisexual hypocrisy >where it
will be accepted: the hetero community. You're one of them, >far more than
you're one of us!
To paraphrase "It's my ball and if you won't play how I want I'm taking it
home". Do you really think that you can gain proper equality by attacking
everyone who isn't like you. You're going the same route that a lot of (for
example) both Christians and Goths go: The only true and proper <Insert
group here> are those who <Behave exactly as I do or would like to>
Mercutio (Who feels a lot better having written that is now going to get on
with his bisexual, SM, individual life).
Timothy F. Mulligan
> Timothy F. Mulligan wrote in message <362CBA59...@central.uh.edu>...
> :Would anyone object if I canceled this message? Despite my
> :libertarian-leaning-Green views, some speech does not
> :deserve to be heard.
>
> It wouldn't do any good. The damage has been done and certain servers
> refuse to recognise cancel messages anyway, so the best we can do is wait
> for it to expire.
I don't want to be accused of soliciting a violation of netiquette. If
anyone *did* cancel the message, Melinda would be right on them, but I will
say this . . .
Who will relieve us of this message? (Allusion alert: murder of Thomas
Becket).
>
>
> --
>
> Beware of the Spam-Dog
Timothy F. Mulligan
Matthew Shepard from Hell wrote:
> If I had listened to Fred Phelps, I still be alive.....
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image]
Timothy F. Mulligan
upsets him to no end. (Alex: don't cry out loud.)
Timothy F. Mulligan
> Timothy F. Mulligan wrote in message <362CCB4C...@central.uh.edu>...
> I recognise the allusion - but you've cast yourself as Henry. Think about
> it.
DRS, some people here think I'm Hitler (or at least Himmler). Henry is a
step up.
Arne Adolfsen
Timothy F. Mulligan <tmul...@central.uh.edu> wrote:
>My apologies for the long line wrap. I'm using another computer.
How is that an excuse? Can't you just hit enter every, oh,
50-60 characters or so?
--
-- ar...@mtcc.com ------------------------------------------ Arne Adolfsen --
"Drink and dance and laugh and lie, / Love, the reeling midnight through,
For tomorrow we shall die! / (But, alas, we never do.)" -- Dorothy Parker
DRS
:Would anyone object if I canceled this message? Despite my
:libertarian-leaning-Green views, some speech does not
:deserve to be heard.
It wouldn't do any good. The damage has been done and certain servers
refuse to recognise cancel messages anyway, so the best we can do is wait
for it to expire.
--
Beware of the Spam-Dog
DRS
:DRS wrote:
:
:> Timothy F. Mulligan wrote in message
: I don't want to be accused of soliciting a violation of netiquette. If
:anyone *did* cancel the message, Melinda would be right on them, but I will
:say this . . .
:
: Who will relieve us of this message? (Allusion alert: murder of
Thomas
:Becket).
I recognise the allusion - but you've cast yourself as Henry. Think about
it.
--
Beware of the Spam-Dog
A Servant of Satan
Actually, that (hitting enter) probably has nothing at all to do with how
the text wraps.....The way the next is formatted depends not so much on
the computerm but on the software it uses to read/post to newsgroups.
If you've ever signed a Web Site's Guestbook, you may have noticed that
even if _you_ type in paragraphs, your entry appears as one long
paragraph.....
FJ!!
A Servant of Satan <MadF...@the-lair.com> wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Like you would now.
>Actually, that (hitting enter) probably has nothing at all to do with how
>the text wraps.....The way the next is formatted depends not so much on
>the computerm but on the software it uses to read/post to newsgroups.
>If you've ever signed a Web Site's Guestbook, you may have noticed that
Please refrain from posting to Usenet until you know what the fuck you
are doing.
FJ!!
"Mmmmm... smell that mint." -- Florence Henderson on denture adhesive.
Timothy F. Mulligan
> In article <70juci$r...@fasolt.mtcc.com>, ar...@mtcc.com (Arne Adolfsen) wrote:
>
> > In article <362CCE9...@central.uh.edu>,
> > Timothy F. Mulligan <tmul...@central.uh.edu> wrote:
> > >My apologies for the long line wrap. I'm using another computer.
> >
> > How is that an excuse? Can't you just hit enter every, oh,
> > 50-60 characters or so?
> >
> >
> > --
> > -- ar...@mtcc.com ------------------------------------------ Arne Adolfsen --
> > "Drink and dance and laugh and lie, / Love, the reeling midnight through,
> > For tomorrow we shall die! / (But, alas, we never do.)" -- Dorothy Parker
>
> Actually, that (hitting enter) probably has nothing at all to do with how
> the text wraps.....The way the next is formatted depends not so much on
> the computerm but on the software it uses to read/post to newsgroups.
>
> If you've ever signed a Web Site's Guestbook, you may have noticed that
> even if _you_ type in paragraphs, your entry appears as one long
> paragraph.....
Dear Servant of Satan,
Like your liege, you're lying. The Netscape newsreader does allow one to
adjust line wrap. When I posted my 72-length posts, I did so from another
computer, and had forgotten about the wrap issue. (Again, Alex, I am so sorry.
Don't forget: big boys don't cry. Big boys don't cry . . . . ).
Tim
Arne Adolfsen
A Servant of Satan <MadF...@the-lair.com> wrote:
>In article <70juci$r...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
>ar...@mtcc.com (Arne Adolfsen) wrote:
>> In article <362CCE9...@central.uh.edu>,
>> Timothy F. Mulligan <tmul...@central.uh.edu> wrote:
>> >My apologies for the long line wrap. I'm using another computer.
>> How is that an excuse? Can't you just hit enter every, oh,
>> 50-60 characters or so?
>Actually, that (hitting enter) probably has nothing at all to do with how
>the text wraps.....The way the next is formatted depends not so much on
>the computerm but on the software it uses to read/post to newsgroups.
I hit 'enter' every 50-60 characters and everything of mine that
I've ever looked at in rn, trn, elm, pine, tin, Netscape's news
reader and mail program, and Eudora, plus downloaded using
Kermit, Procomm (via the highlight and copy to printer thingie),
xmodem, ymodem, and zmodem and then printed out, has been formatted
exactly the same way. I don't know what you're talking about.
>If you've ever signed a Web Site's Guestbook, you may have noticed that
>even if _you_ type in paragraphs, your entry appears as one long
>paragraph.....
Well, I've never even looked at a Web Site's Guestbook, and now I
have even more reason not to.
A Servant of Satan
<tmul...@central.uh.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear Servant of Satan,
>
> Like your liege, you're lying. The Netscape newsreader does allow one to
> adjust line wrap. When I posted my 72-length posts, I did so from another
> computer, and had forgotten about the wrap issue. (Again, Alex, I am so
sorry.
> Don't forget: big boys don't cry. Big boys don't cry . . . . ).
>
> Tim
Hey idiot Tim!!!! Not everybody uses Netscape to post/read in this
newsgroups!!!!!
Pay attention!!!!! NOT everybody uses Netscape!!!! Netscape is NOT the
only wat to read and post to newsgroups!!!
I said that how the text is formstted depends on the software one uses to
read and post to the newsgroups........
Understand now????
Timothy F. Mulligan
> Hey idiot Tim!!!!
Sir, here Sir!!! (Don't get excited now, you bottoms out there.)
> Not everybody uses Netscape to post/read in this
> newsgroups!!!!!
I've been made aware of that fact numerous times by Alex Helliott and Her
Geekiness.
> Pay attention!!!!!
Sir, yes SIR!!!
> NOT everybody uses Netscape!!!!
Sir, I know that, SIR!!! That's why Bill Gates' ass is in a sling now, SIR!!!
> Netscape is NOT the
> only wat to read and post to newsgroups!!!
Sir, yes SIR!
> I said that how the text is formstted depends on the software one uses to
> read and post to the newsgroups........
Whatever you say, SIR!
> Understand now????
Uh . . . huh?
Mack
> Who will relieve us of this message?
Are you completely incapable of self-control?
M., who doesn't like it when people fuck with free speech
Timothy F. Mulligan
This, and my original open question about canceling the
original message, was a troll. A few weeks ago, I stated
that the Internet was "libertarian to its core," and was
contradicted by Melinda Shore and her claque of contrarians.
When the original post appeared, it was an opportunity to
make a point. I made lemonade out of a lemon.
Oh, and there sure are contrarians here. Curmudgenly
contrarians, at that. It reminds me of the old Looney Tunes,
episode, where Bugs and Daffy argue:
Bugs: Duck season!
Daffy: Rabbit season!
Bugs: Duck season!
Daffy: Rabbit season!
Bugs: Rabbit season!
Daffy: Duck season!
It's duck season.
Tim Mulligan
tmul...@central.uh.edu
ezek...@my-dejanews.com
ameri...@usa.net wrote:
> Hi and hail. I have a request, Ezekiel. Is there any chance you could remove
> or replace your use of the word "Satanic" in your manifesto?
It has been done, per your request. I now use the phrase "human-sacrifice", as
part of my list of malicious world views.
> You see, I am a Satanist, and the system I follow has not a shred of >
homophobia in it. Quite the opposite, in fact.
I understand, as I am familiar with your form of Satanism...which is really a
strike for human independence and individual liberation...as an opposition to
the prejudiced and oppressive dogma emerging from a large number of KKKristian
sects.
However, there are many varieties of Satanism, as well as of
Christianity...and each does contain a sub-element of those folks who murder
and torture people and animals. They should both be condemned. After all,
there *are proclaimed Satanists who perform bestiality and human sacrifice.
Just as there *are (obviously) Christians who murder gays and others in the
name of their God. Both sub-groups should be condemned.
> "Satanism condones any type of sexual activity which properly satisfies your
> individual desires--be it heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or even asexual
> if you choose. Satanism also sanctions any fetish or deviation which will
> enhance your sex life, so long as it involves no one who does not wish to be
> involved."
>
> - Anton Szandor LaVey, "The Satanic Bible," pg. 67 (1969)
Well, the same goes for our more enlightened Christian groups. I refer you to
"Liberated Christians", at http://www.libchrist.com. Here is a quote from
their main page:
---begin quote
Whether you are Christian or not, our culture has been influenced by a
sexually repressive Christian tradition that denies the God-given natural
desire to connect emotionally and sexually with more than one person, which
is the essence of polyamory. The repression of both sexual experience and
knowledge results in a society titillated by the tease of sex, but with
little intimacy skills or sexual knowledge. "Cheating" is common since many
people can't be honest about their desires. Responsible non-monogamy or
polyamory fulfills this need with dignity and honesty in our relationships.
Our culture teaches us to be jealous of such openness and somehow we have a
twisted notion that love is somehow proven by monogamy.
---end quote
In fact, one of the organizers of "Liberated Christians", Dave, has written
an excellent treatise in defense of gays, by picking apart all Biblical
references used to condemn gays...then explaining quite clearly, how and why
they do *not villifiy homosexuality. You may read his wonderful document on
my web site at:
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Stonewall/8944/dave.htm
> Next year will mark the 30th anniversary of one of the most unambiguous
> declarations of human freedom ever published. We who follow this system do
> not fit the statement you make in your manifesto.
In some versions of Satanism, you do. But I realize that *your Satanism does
not. And as I said earlier, those Satan worshippers who *do violate the human
spirit, through cruelty and murder, are no match for the much greater numbers
of proclaimed Christians who do same.
> Yours in Satan,
>
> Americo of the Apocalypse
I now speak for Lucifer, who often dwells in my soul: Blessed be, and here is
a story for thee (and pay attention to the last paragraphs, 1, 2, 3):
--------------------------------------------------------------
Permission granted by author for anyone to distribute this
writing free of charge (including translation into any
language)...under condition that no profit is made therefrom,
and that it remain intact and complete, including title and
credit to the original author.
Ezekiel J. Krahlin
ezek...@iname.com
--------------------------------------------------------------
THE LITTLE ANGEL WHO WOULDN'T FLY
(a parable for the 21st century)
Š 1997 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
(Jehovah's Queer Witness)
In the First Year of the Return of Our Lord, there was a
little angel who wouldn't fly. Not that he didn't have wings,
nor were they damaged in any way. He just wouldn't fly. And
this was a mystery to all the other angels who did, and looked
below and saw the little angel like a mite moving across the
brown and green face of Urth.
I must regress here for a moment, for my story comes from
the future, addressed to you who are, indeed, one of the
angels in my tale--as we all will be in a time very close to
your own. (Indeed, most of you will not shed your present
forms before witnessing the Evolutionary Rapture; but will,
instead, regenerate your deoxyribonucleic acids to form new,
and youthful, bodies.)
Anyway, from time to time a curious brother or sister
from above would pay this little angel a brief visit, to walk
beside him and ask the obvious question:
"Little angel, why don't you ever fly?"
And a shadow would cross the brow of the little angel as
he puffed up his chest and replied: "In memory of Man before
he earned his wings, I walk the earth for all eternity."
Then he'd pause, and a certain weariness would shake his
frame as he lowered his head: "And because...because I am
waiting."
The visiting angel would then lean closer and ask, quite
dumfounded, "Waiting for what, little angel? There is nothing
left to wait for."
The little angel would then raise his head and look
straight into the visitor's eyes: "I am waiting for a tall,
handsome angel to take me in his arms and fly away with me."
After the little angel gave this two-part reply (which
was always the same), the visiting angel would shrug its wings
and take flight.
One day, while the little angel was window shopping, a
pair of wings on a rack at J.C. Penny's caught his eye. He
came in and caressed it, admiring the downy texture and soft,
opal hues. Best of all, it would not shrink and was machine
washable. (The little angel hated doing laundry, which was
only second on his shit list to a visit to Purgatory.)
"May I help you?" A salesman courteously addressed the
little angel who gasped at this breathing creation of bronze,
muscled flesh and jet black hair. His green eyes flashed as
the little angel admired those tight, full buttocks from which
extended a sinewy tail that promised of anal delights beyond
the little angel's wildest dreams. A lump swelled in the
salesman's crotch and began to burst the seams of his fly.
"He's a real devil," thought the little angel. He almost
caressed the salesman's thighs, but withdrew his hand and
sighed.
"I was admiring this pair of wings," said the little
angel. "May I try them on?"
"Certainly," said the salesman, "there's an empty booth
over there." As the little angel walked away, the salesman's
heart melted. "A son like him would make me the proudest
father in Galactic Sector 357. How sad that he is not yet
loved."
The little angel emerged from the dressing booth with the
new pair of wings inserted into the slots between his shoulder
blades. He tossed his old wings into the moleculizer.
"They're on backwards," said the salesman. "Here, let me
help you." The little angel shuddered in ecstasy as the
salesman's warm hands touched his shoulders with a gentle
caress, and lingered. He felt some fingers slip into the rear
pocket of his pants, inserting a piece of paper with a
televideo number. He almost threw himself into the salesman's
arms.
"Oh, how I could love this man. He would be a wonderful
father," thought the little angel; and in the telepathic union
of their two minds, he pictured himself in the naked embrace
of the salesman, tail wrapped around the little angel and
beginning to enter his anus with increasingly eager prods.
"But he's not the one. Who is the one?" The little angel put
a stop to these delicious thoughts, paid for the wings, and
walked out.
The sun was intense as the little angel crossed the mall
to enter the Santa Cruz Bookstore. As he thought a cloud
across the sky to shield his eyes, a centaur almost ran over
him. "Oh, excuse me, little guy," said the centaur, "I should
have been watching where I was going."
The little angel admired the centaur's muscular torso as
he reared back and stamped his hooves with delight. "Say,
you're a cute little fellow. How about a ride?"
The little angel tried to climb up, but kept slipping.
"Say, aren't you used to those wings yet? Here, let me help
you up." And the centaur tenderly lifted him in his arms to
set the little angel on his back. The summer breeze tingled
the little angel's face as they raced down Pacific Avenue to
the ocean, where they sat and talked a spell.
Seals cavorted in the backwater beneath the piers, and
pelicans gathered around the centaur and the little angel as
if in serious contemplation of their conversation.
The little angel removed his shirt and dazzled the
centaur with the physical perfection of a sixteen-year-old
boy. His tiny nipples stood erect in the ocean mist, and a
halo of light played around his auburn hair. His eyes
sparkled like cracked ice in champagne, and the muscles on his
ribs and arms were only beginning to bud.
The little angel smiled: the centaur suddenly bowed his
head and covered his eyes, and the pelicans averted their
glance for a moment.
"Is the sun in your eyes?" asked the little angel, who
sat closer to the centaur in order to block the sun.
The centaur looked up and gently kissed the little angel.
They sat for a while in silence. The waves crashed on
the hot sand, and the sea foam hissed. Each was in his own
thoughts, yet their eyes did not leave each other, and thus
many thoughts were shared.
Then the little angel inched closer to the centaur until
he was nestled against its breast. "Oh, my little one," spoke
the centaur, folding his arms around the boy. He drank the
smell of the oils in his hair. "I am not a tall, handsome
angel. But I will be your father if that is what you want. I
will give you anything you want. Anything."
The little angel turned his eyes into full view of the
centaur's face and spoke not a word as the centaur spilled
tears onto the sand (for he knew that the little angel wanted
nothing, nothing at all. Except him).
The little angel grew drowsy under the sun, murmuring,
"My father, it has been so long, so very long. So very long."
"In which of your dreams shall we meet again, my little
sparkle of light?" thought the centaur and pulled him closer,
dragging him across the sand in a protective embrace that
reached deep into the boy's soul.
And the little angel dreamt the dream of a boy who knew
his father would never leave him again.
-----finis
--
The Final Testament: a bible by and for gays alone.
http://members.xoom.com/ezekielk/