THE PORNO TRASH MUST GO
Ezekiel Krahlin
On Feb. 1 1998, trk...@aol.com (TRKeske) wrote:
>
> THE PORNO TRASH MUST GO
>
> It's difficult to have intelligent discussion about AIDS, with all these
> trashy, porno spam posts.
>
> People, please: If we apply enough pressure, we can get the
> service providers to get off their butts, track these people down,
> cut off there access. It isn't heavy, legal "free speech" issues in the
> way, nor is it technology. It is a matter of customers demanding action
> loudly enough.
>
> It is OUR free speech being impinged upon, not the free speech of
> pornographers. There is so much trash, it is difficult even to locate
> the meaningful posts.
>
> I don't believe that it's all real porno. There are people who deliberately
> want to kill internet newsgroups like this. They don't want AIDS discussed,
> in a truly free, open forum, that can evade media, military, government
> controls. This is their way of trying to drive people away- by urinating
> on the newsgroups, and on you.
>
> Do not let them win! Raise your voice and threaten to take your
> dollars to services who will respond to your needs!!
>
> Tom Keske
> Boston, Mass.
I totally agree with you, Tom. In this homo-hateful society, anything
that is seen as "gay" is interpreted as intrinsically
pornographic...hence, fair game for porno spam queens. This, of
course, includes the AIDS issue. And, it is indeed highly likely that
porno spam is a tactic by bigots, to not only flood our newsgroups
with trash...but make us look like the sicko pervert stereotypes of
their fantasies.
I would not be suprised at all, if numerous Christian groups are
behind these porno spam attacks...along with non-religious bigots.
But unfortunately, even most of our so-called liberal hetero pro-gay
"friends" perceive gay people as some sort of adepts in the outer
fringes of sexual bizarreness and intrigue. Worse yet, many gays
(mostly men) do not grasp the fact that gay rights has nothing to do
with gaining free and uninterrupted access to public toilets...hence,
they sell out to these stereotypes of homosexuals as a pornographic
people by nature.
It should also come to your attention, that any number of
gay-identified people in our newsgroups--who espouse right-wing
values--may actually be our enemies in sheeps clothing. Why should
anyone assume another person really is gay (or pro-gay), just because
s/he says s/he is? It only makes sense, for some homophobes to
sabotage our newsgroups in this manner (as well as by the crude but
effective porno-spam technique).
The more numerous the articles in any newsgroup, the quicker any one
article is pushed from a thread to make room for newer ones. Thus,
mass spamming of a newsgroup causes any article--including one worth
reading--to disappear withon a few days (or less), rather than remain
visible to all, for a week or longer. So not only does it take a lot
more work, to sift through all the junk articles...but you are more
likely to miss the good articles, since they don't stay on for very
long.
It is clear to you, and it is clear to me, that these are "gay"
newsgroups...for discussing political and social topics. These are
*not porno groups, of which we have a few (like the het porno
groups)...but this is not one of them. Yet, I see mass flooding of
porno spam to every single gay newsgroup...while all the other
non-gay/non-sex newsgroups are spared from such attacks. Why? Because
they are "hetero" groups...and of course, being hetero in and of
itself is not pornographic. Yet our society tacitly perceives being
gay as intrinsically porno.
As gay people, we have very few friends in this world, and I doubt
that most news servers do not include gay and lesbian newsgroups with
great joy...in fact, probably quite begrudgingly. So that, any
attempt to sabotage gay groups will be tacitly encouraged...and the
maintenance of gay newsgroups will be under par, when compared to all
other groups.
Your call of frustration, and action, I believe will help stir up more
discontent, and help other gays to gain more pride about themselves,
in not seeing their orientation as pornographic. You are absolutely
right, Tom...that we should speak out against all this porno
spam...which in the case of gay newsgroups is an intentional attack by
homophobic types. However, we cannot count on even our "liberal"
hetero supporters to help us in this matter, unless we really make a
big stink about it, in numbers at least equal to the homo-hating
spammers themselves.
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Rev. Cactus Pete
Miss Dish wrote:
>
> How about an attack on homos by a homo? You silly individuals are spreading
> more aids than you are controlling. You have attached yourselves to a bunch of
> other causes (principally dykes and blacks) and allowed the media to do a
> number on you. It is fashionable today in San Francisco, for young gay people
> to have unprotected browning. You dance and jiggle, you diddle and wiggle and
> never give a serious thought to what the consequence will be. A night of
> pleasure and a stiff prick is all you consider. You are the liberals that want
> government to pick up the tab on your own undoing. How about we conservative
> gays that want to take responsibility for our own community. How about we
> conservative gays that don't want to act up, we just want to be contributors
> to the social order in which we live, pay taxes, and be left alone. I was once
> proud of the gay community, but now the gay community is a disgrace. You
> ghetto yourselves, have parades, behave in a world that already frowns upon
> you in ways that makes the world detest you. It is time the gay community
> awakened to fact that they are not some sort of gift to the community in which
> they live, by simply being gay. It's perfectly acceptable to be gay (god know,
> I was born that way, and lived many years that way) but trying to be a
> revolutionary in a society that doesn't require a revolution is a complete
> disgrace to many of us. If you want to control aids, behave in a manner that
> does not spread the disease, it's just that simple. To those that have it,
> it's a dirty deal, and our hearts go out to you.
>
Whoaaaaaaa. I'm stocking up on cheesy poofs, Japanese seaweed
twiglets, and Arizona Iced Tea, pulling up my comfy chair and settling
in to watch the thread that develops from THIS one.
Go for it boys!
-Rev. Cactus Pete
"And she calls herself 'Miss Dish'?!!!"
Rev. Cactus Pete
Miss Dish wrote:
>
> How about an attack on homos by a homo? You silly individuals are spreading
> more aids than you are controlling. You have attached yourselves to a bunch of
> other causes (principally dykes and blacks) and allowed the media to do a
> number on you. It is fashionable today in San Francisco, for young gay people
> to have unprotected browning. You dance and jiggle, you diddle and wiggle and
> never give a serious thought to what the consequence will be. A night of
> pleasure and a stiff prick is all you consider. You are the liberals that want
> government to pick up the tab on your own undoing. How about we conservative
> gays that want to take responsibility for our own community. How about we
> conservative gays that don't want to act up, we just want to be contributors
> to the social order in which we live, pay taxes, and be left alone. I was once
> proud of the gay community, but now the gay community is a disgrace. You
> ghetto yourselves, have parades, behave in a world that already frowns upon
> you in ways that makes the world detest you. It is time the gay community
> awakened to fact that they are not some sort of gift to the community in which
> they live, by simply being gay. It's perfectly acceptable to be gay (god know,
> I was born that way, and lived many years that way) but trying to be a
> revolutionary in a society that doesn't require a revolution is a complete
> disgrace to many of us. If you want to control aids, behave in a manner that
> does not spread the disease, it's just that simple. To those that have it,
> it's a dirty deal, and our hearts go out to you.
>
Please let me introduce you.
Miss Dish, please meet Shawn Haff.
Shawn, I'm proud to present Miss Dish.
-Rev. Cactus Pete
"Yet aNOTHer APH Newsgroup Looooooooooooooove Connection!"
Alex
Miss Dish [phelps] wrote:
>
> How about an attack on homos by a homo? You silly individuals are spreading
What a fascinating letter. Obviously from one of the phelps nuts. It
reminded me of an article I found several weeks ago about Fred Phelps.
Perhaps this letter gives us a clue.
http://www.xmission.com/~sam3915/phelps.html
.....................................................
<excerpt>
Fred Phelps a Fag?
I believe that the so-called "Reverend" Fred W. Phelps (Westboro Baptist
Church, Topeka,
Kansas) and his grandson Benjamin Phelps are classic case studies in the
bizarre & not completely successful lengths bisexuals will go to in
trying to conceal & suppress their own overpowering & unwanted
homosexual attractions by projecting them onto others --with the bizarre
extent of their hatred directly related to their enormous frustration,
anger & resentment at seeing others act on their homosexual attractions
when their beliefs prevent them from doing so. I believe that Fred and
Benjamin, like so many other tortured bisexuals & homosexuals, use
religion in an attempt to make sense of the internal struggle between
their indoctrinated belief that people should be exclusively
heterosexual and the reality that they are not. In short, I believe they
are "fags" (their terminology) with a myopic obsession with and
attraction to their fellow "fags", but who hate & attack them rather
than admit (especially to themselves) that they are "fags" too. I also
believe that each of them gets sadistic sexual pleasure out of attacking
their fellow "fags".
..................................
--
Alex
The KKKristians are coming, find out more!
http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/village/7525
Rev. Cactus Pete
Rev. Billy wrote:
>
>
> Oh, it's an easy one:
>
> 1: Phelps server.
>
Oh my God! It's Ben Phelps in a DRESS!!!
-Rev. Cactus Pete
~(^@^)~
Miss Dish wrote:
>
> How about an attack on homos by a homo?
<snip>
"..click.. -dialtone- goodbye...on your merry way"- RuPaul
Rev. Billy
"Rev. Cactus Pete" <cp...@nospam.com> wrote:
>Miss Dish wrote:
>> How about an attack on homos by a homo?
>Whoaaaaaaa. I'm stocking up on cheesy poofs, Japanese seaweed
>twiglets, and Arizona Iced Tea, pulling up my comfy chair and settling
>in to watch the thread that develops from THIS one.
Oh, it's an easy one:
1: Phelps server.
2: just say RUMPLESTILSKIN.
3: "Dish" should give up the cocaine and hang with a better
crowd.
4: Try the Green Tea from Snapple.
Ezekiel Krahlin
On Feb. 1 1998, trk...@aol.com (TRKeske) wrote:
>
> THE PORNO TRASH MUST GO
>
> It's difficult to have intelligent discussion about AIDS, with all these
> trashy, porno spam posts.
> It is OUR free speech being impinged upon, not the free speech of
> pornographers. There is so much trash, it is difficult even to locate
> the meaningful posts.
>
> I don't believe that it's all real porno. There are people who deliberately
> want to kill internet newsgroups like this. They don't want AIDS discussed,
> in a truly free, open forum, that can evade media, military, government
> controls. This is their way of trying to drive people away- by urinating
> on the newsgroups, and on you.
>
> Do not let them win! Raise your voice and threaten to take your
> dollars to services who will respond to your needs!!
Tom, this is a follow up, and another example of the gay stereotyping
that news service use on us...and is therefore part of the problem. I
hope those who read the following message, will likewise complain to
DejaNews, and encourage others to do so, too.
The following message was sent to "My DejaNews" service at
<my...@dejanews.com>, as a complaint against their apparant gay
stereotyping.
---begin message
Dear Dejanews:
I searched for the word "gay" in your "topic" search...and of course
got a lot of gay newsgroups. Naturally, numerous gay sex groups
turned up, too. But what befuddles me, is the plethora of "sex"
groups to be listed...none of them having to deal with the gay issue
at all. Why on earth would you correlate all sorts of sex imaginable
under the sun (and away from it), with the word "gay"? I feel you are
stereotyping gay people as having a monopoly on all sorts of fringe
sex, including the kinkiest possible. We are human beings, not
sex-addicted perverts...and have no more strange sex than the average
hetero.
I request that you remove all "sex" newsgroups from the "gay"
reference database...except where any sex groups are clearly gay
identified in the newsgroup title. Here is the current list of
inappropriate sex groups DejaNews calls up, when I search with the
word "gay":
83% alt.sex.pictures
75% alt.sex.pictures.male
42% alt.sex.erotica
34% alt.sex.exhibitionism
28% alt.sex.erotica.marketplace
28% alt.sex.erotica.market.place
26% alt.sex.movies
24% alt.sex.anal
23% alt.sex.wizards
21% alt.sex.stories
19% alt.sex.masturbation
19% alt.sex.cu-seeme
18% alt.sex.services
17% alt.sex.fetish.fashion
17% alt.sex.orgy
17% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.amateur.male
16% alt.sex.balls
16% alt.sex.wanted.escorts.ads
16% alt.sex.stories.d
12% alt.sex
12% alt.sex.pictures.female
11% alt.sex.spanking
10% alt.binaries.erotica.sex.in.the.morning
10% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.male
10% alt.sex.brothels
10% alt.sex.leri
9% alt.sex.cd-rom
9% alt.sex.fetish.tinygirls
8% alt.sex.fetish.giants
8% alt.sex.asphyx
8% alt.sex.fetish.barbie
8% alt.sex.fetish.watersports
8% alt.sex.stories.hetero
8% alt.sex.fat
8% alt.sex.femdom
8% alt.sex.fetish.boyfeet
8% alt.sex.fetish.jello
8% alt.sex.motss.clamato
8% alt.sex.wanted.thedavid
8% alt.sex.fetish.panties
8% alt.sex.gangbang
8% alt.sex.sounds
7% alt.sex.beer-bottle
7% alt.sex.breast
7% alt.sex.escorts.ads
7% alt.sex.fetish.orientals
7% alt.sex.bondage.furtoonia
7% alt.sex.fetish.sportswear
7% alt.sex.masterbation
7% alt.sex.masturbation.pictures.female.teen
7% alt.sex.trans
7% alt.sex.fetish.fa
7% alt.sex.fetish.wet-and-messy
7% hk.talk.sex
These non-gay sex groups are no more relevant to "gay" people, than
they are to Jews, Native Americans, Movie buffs, Chocoholics, or any
other category of types that are listed in Usenet. To further
emphasize my point, here is the entire list of newsgroups you find,
when I search with the word "heterosexual":
99% alt.politics.homosexuality
37% soc.motss
36% alt.christnet
21% misc.health.aids
20% bit.listserv.gaynet
17% soc.women.lesbian-and-bi
16% alt.feminism
12% alt.tv.xena
12% ca.general
11% dfw.general
10% alt.bible
9% alt.polyamory
8% austin.general
8% alt.tv.real-world
8% alt.sex.stories
7% alt.religion.mormon
7% uk.gay-lesbian-bi
7% uk.politics.misc
As you can see for yourself, only *one newsgroup is of a sex related
topic, when I search for word "heterosexual". (As if gay people, by
contrast to heteros, were sex-mad and sex-addicted.)
I assure you: any gay male or female interested in viewing naked
teens, spanking, or exhibitionism, will search with either the simple
word "sex", and/or any of a number of more specific words (such as
"spanking", etc.). Just as any hetero person would search out sex
newsgroups, and kinky alternatives therefrom, in the same manner, if
she or he so desired.
Of further curiosity, is that I get *no search results for either
"hetero" or "straight"...and only newsgroups discussing pets, when I
search for word "breeder". However, when I search for word "faggot",
Dejanews gives me the following list:
99% alt.music.hardcore
62% alt.politics.homosexuality
59% rec.sport.pro-wrestling
47% alt.flame.niggers
44% alt.sex.stories.gay
40% alt.flame
37% alt.tv.simpsons
27% soc.motss
25% alt.games.final-fantasy
24% alt.sex.stories.gay.moderated
21% alt.aol-sucks
21% alt.sex.stories
19% alt.prophecies.nostradamus
17% soc.culture.pakistan
16% alt.music.nirvana
15% alt.music.smash-pumpkins
15% alt.tasteless.jokes
14% rec.music.hip-hop
13% alt.fan.howard-stern
12% alt.sex.stories.moderated
12% alt.skate-board
12% alt.horror
11% alt.tv.homicide
11% alt.christnet
11% alt.pantyhose
10% alt.music.gwar
10% alt.sport.qzar
9% alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
8% alt.music.marilyn-manson
7% alt.homosexual
7% alt.punk
7% alt.fan.oj-simpson
7% alt.evil
7% alt.teens
7% alt.fan.karl-malden.nose
Now, you can't tell me that *some gay people have used the words
"heterosexual," "breeder," and "straight" in angry dialogues about
society's homophobia. Yet there is not a single relevant newsgroup
relevant to criticism against heterosexist attitudes. Surely, your
database smacks of homophobia, due to its selective results in
comparing search lists between "homo" and "hetero" terms.
In sum, I am personally insulted by your obvious stereotyping of
gay-relevant material.
Do you get my drift? I really hope so.
I will also post my complaint to various lesbian/gay newsgroups,
urging them to see for themselves, by subscribing to your new "My
Dejanews" service, then performing their own searches, to see the
results for themselves.
---end message
(To my gay amigos: here is how to register (it's free): Go to DejaNews
home page, at: <http://www.dejanews.com/>. Then click on the blue
starbust icon that says: "Click here to check our our new improved
BETA service." Once you are subscribed, you can log onto your
customized DejaNews page, and use their "topic" search engine as I
have.)
Mike Silverman
In article <34de7b3e...@nntp.sj.bigger.net>, ezek...@mailcity.com_Z
wrote:
> Dear Dejanews:
>
> I searched for the word "gay" in your "topic" search...and of course
> got a lot of gay newsgroups.
Don't you understand how topis searching works? It looks for words in the
subject and body of newsgroup postings.
So if one person makes a post to rec.sport.football with the word "gay" in
it, it will get picked up by a search.
--
Mike Silverman
cub...@cjnetworks.com
~(^@^)~
Miss Dish wrote:
>
> I've been waiting for the dust to settle. You children are having a lot of
> trouble with self idenity, and insecurity. You are obviously in a state of
> denial, and must find someone to blame for your homosexuality.....
Dish-
Ya know, queen like dishing *can* be funny and it can be campy, and
god/dess knows we all like a good laugh.
However, feeble, apparently drug induced ranting are none of the above.
Perhaps what you could do this week, Miss Dish, is attend a few 12 Step
meetings with hopes of opening a chink in your armor and let some
spirituality enter your soul to replace the venomous hate.
RevOinK
Ezekiel Krahlin
>Whoaaaaaaa. I'm stocking up on cheesy poofs, Japanese seaweed
>twiglets, and Arizona Iced Tea, pulling up my comfy chair and settling
>in to watch the thread that develops from THIS one.
>
>Go for it boys!
:-))))))))))
>-Rev. Cactus Pete
> "And she calls herself 'Miss Dish'?!!!"
Just so. I am fashioning my rebuttal...stick around for it.
Bruce Garrett
ho...@large.com (Miss Dish) was once that way...
?> How about an attack on homos by a homo?
<laugh>
[snip yada-yada...]
?> It's perfectly acceptable to be gay (god know, I was born that way, and
?> lived many years that way)
Lived many years "that way", did you? What happened...reverse
puberty?
---
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Cockeysville, MD. / \ Behold, he climbs upon the mountians, skipping
upon the hills. My beloved is like a young stag...
-The Song of Solomon
Alex
Miss Dish wrote:
>>snip Grandma Dish's advice>>
Sorry Grandma [phelps], http://www.xmission.com/~sam3915/phelps.html
I choose not to hide who I am. I don't act up, but I won't stay in the
closet either. I will not demonstrate my sexuality any more or less that
my heterosexual counterparts do. If they have a problem, it's their
problem.
I'm sure it was different for you back in the 19th century, but it's a
new day. I'm sure you'll concede my right to choose my own path.
Alex
The KKKristians are coming. Hide!
http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/village/7525
Rev. Cactus Pete
Miss Dish wrote:
>
> I've been waiting for the dust to settle. You children are having a lot of
> trouble with self idenity, and insecurity. You are obviously in a state of
> blaming someone, and trying to live up to some straight phony standard, why
> don't you try living as a homosexual and not trying to demonstrate to society
> that you have a rightful axe to grind. Try fitting in, and not being
> exceptional. You don't have to be demonstrative in a society that outnumbers
> you with straight people, and you don't haver to be recessive either. If you
> get AIDS through your own misconduct (and misconduct and foolishness at this
> stage of the game are the reasons you get AIDS), don't expect a lot of right
> wing christians to come to your rescue. Don't blame them for their narrow
> approach, they weren't born that way, like you, they acquired their neurosis.
> The so-called gay movement produces more hate than promoting positive feelings
> toward gay people. If you think rabble rousing, acting up, yelling, screaming
> and shouting will produce followers, forget it. Until the gay community
> produces evidence of stability, the entire efforts by some people might just
> as well be put on hold. Go ahead, act-up, attract attention, force it down
> their throats, but you are really crying in the wilderness. If you want to
> control AIDS, use protection, or abstain.Boy, I'll bet I'm making you rabble
> rousing youngsters mad. It's just your immaturity running over.
Yep, if it looks like a Phelps and it smells like a Phelps, it's a
Phelps.
Ben sweetie, you didn't call me on Sunday and talk dirty like you used
to. I had the tape recorder hooked up and everything! What's the
matter hun, was the phone booth occupied?
I'll give you until next Monday to call me or I'm taking the baby and
going back to Bubba!!!
-Rev. Cactus Pete
Bzzzzzzzt!......POOF!.......sizzle......
"Which wire does it say you plug into the back of the phone?"
Diedrich G. Kohl
On Sun 1998/02/08 23:46:12 GMT, in <6blg3h$8...@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>
Miss Dish <ho...@large.com> wrote:
> How about an attack on homos by a homo? ... we conservative gays ...
> our...community ... we ... we ... we ... we ...
> the gay community ... they ... they ...
> god know, I was born that way, ...
So far so good. Well, sort of.
> and lived many years that way ...
Oops. A self-identified current "homo" and "gay" who's confused
about his/her temporal orientation.
Miss Dish dishes but misdisses.
They really could use an editor at Phelps Hate Central.
--Rick
Diedrich G. Kohl
On Mon 1998/02/09 18:17:34 GMT, in <6bnh7b$a...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>
Miss Dish <ho...@large.com> wrote:
>... Don't blame [right-wing Christians] for their narrow
> approach, they weren't born that way, like you [homosexuals],
> they acquired their neurosis ...
and in article <6blg3h$8...@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>
Miss Dish <ho...@large.com> previously wrote:
> ... we conservative gays ... our...community ... we ... we ... we ... we ...
> god know, I was born that way ...
You "fake gay" Phelpses are so incredibly stupid that you'd
forget whether or not you'd already wiped your ass if you
dropped your copy of Fundie Digest.
(Hmmm ... maybe that explains the stench around here ...)
--Rick
JTEM
Slimy fat pig, Miss Dish (ho...@large.com) wrote:
: [snip] Instead of blaming someone, and trying to live up to some
: straight phony standard, [more snip] Try fitting in, and not being
: outnumbers you with straight people, and you don't haver to be recessive
: either.
I would have read more but, truth is, it wasn't worth it.
John
James Doemer
Granted, but we also have the right to tell you you're full of shit when the
need arises...
Miss Dish wrote in message <6bqgm7$1...@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com>...
>I haven't even been introduced to this Phelps person you make reference to.
I
>imagine he is some sort of person you don't like. Is your dislike based on
>pre-judgement, or is he really as awful as you indicate. No, I a newbie
here,
>and so don't blame someone innocent for my posts. Yes, I'm gay, I've alway
>been gay. I don't care for girls, and especially dykes. I don't want to
join
>any causes that I have to attach myself to to gain recognition. I am
>embarassed by the way that many gay people feel they must behave to gain
>equality. I can accept the bigotry of the Christians, because I understand
>their deeply rooted insecurity. I loath government as my savior, therefore
I
>probably might be thought of as a conservative. I dislike gay people who
>flaunt their sexuality, and I dislike straight people who flaunt their
>sexuality. What happens in a place of mutual congregation, does not belong
in
>public where gay, straight, and neuter people interact. You certainly have
>the right to choose you "own path", just as I have a right to freely
express
>my thoughts in this rather peer limited enviroment.
Chad Lautner
Ms. Dish,
You certainly seem to be, different. I'll grant you that 1/3 of the
people posting here automatically label anyone anti-gay as a Phelpesian.
I've not been in here long enough to get that Phelpdar down yet :)
What exactly DID you mean when you said you were born gay.... I didn't
quite get that.
Chad
--
Hail anyone who remembers to cut out crossposting, and keeps these
sacred (LMAO) walls clean of fundamentalism.
~(^@^)~
Miss Dish wrote:
>
> I know you. You can't stand to ever have a thought go through your mixmaster
> that you can't agree with. You are quick to accuse, shy of thought, and
> generally repulsive. ....Snip
> In article <6bni2r$5...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>, dadp...@att.net wrote:
> >Dish-
> >
> >Ya know, queen like dishing *can* be funny and it can be campy, and
> >god/dess knows we all like a good laugh.
> >
> >However, feeble, apparently drug induced ranting are none of the above.
Dish-
Honey, thankfully you do NOT know me.
Michael
~(^@^)~
>Miss Dish wrote:
>
(...I snipped out the crap and there was nothing left, other than a big
YAWN...
Michael)
~(^@^)~
Miss Dish wrote:
>
> I'm surprised you read as much as you did, some of us do have our limitations,
> don't we?
Why YES we DO Miss Dish! Welcome to my killfile and filtering devices!
M
DKing1980
On 10 Feb 1998 21:26:52, "Miss Dish" <ho...@large.com> wrote:
> I haven't even been introduced to this Phelps person you make
> reference to. I imagine he is some sort of person you don't like.
> Is your dislike based on pre-judgement, or is he really as awful
> as you indicate. No, I a newbie here,
[Raises hand]
Ooh! Let me! Let me!
Fred Phelps (who some claim is a Reverend), is the pastor of the
Westboro Baptist Church, a Topeka KS cult with about 30 members
(almost all family). He pickets churches, funerals, and anything
even remotely gay-neutral. His most popular sign is "God Hates
Fags!", which became the namesake for the cult's website,
www.godhatesfags.com. He is a disbarred lawyer who tries to
weasel and loophole his way out of the legal system.
Two of Phelps's children have left the cult and reported severe
child abuse at Almighty Fred's hand.
The only Usenet poster who is *absolutely* a Phelps persona is
"Nick Santoro" (wiseguy7@*.com), although the poor grammar and
hateful messages of many Xtian posters have made them look
suspiciously Phelps-like.
===================================
Donnie "Don't kick the newbie!" King
http://members.aol.com/dking1980/
"You do not make history; you can only
hope to *survive* it."
-- G'Kar of _Babylon 5_
Robert Schroeder
Not so sure about that Oink. Has anyone else noticed that Miss Dish's
style is the same as our departed friend <choke!> BARD?
And this is just like something that BARD would do.
And Miss Dish, this is nothing personal....
We just don't like you or your attitude.
Go away.
Robert
Rev. Billy
Took you too long Rev. Oink, the large lady stopped singing on my
server a while ago...
~(^@^)~
Rev. Billy wrote:
>
> "~(^@^)~" <dadp...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >Why YES we DO Miss Dish! Welcome to my killfile and filtering devices!
>
> Took you too long Rev. Oink, the large lady stopped singing on my
> server a while ago...
She didn't annoy me to THAT point until today.....
Rev OinK
Eglise de Cette Fille
John De Salvio
In article <19980210233...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
dkin...@aol.com (DKing1980) wrote:
> On 10 Feb 1998 21:26:52, "Miss Dish" <ho...@large.com> wrote:
> > I haven't even been introduced to this Phelps person you make
> > reference to. I imagine he is some sort of person you don't like.
> > Is your dislike based on pre-judgement, or is he really as awful
> > as you indicate. No, I a newbie here,
>
> [Raises hand]
> Ooh! Let me! Let me!
>
It would seem to me that such a knowledgeable person as
"Miss Dish" would certainly know about Fraud Phelps if she
claims to know ANYthing about gays in America.
Or perhaps Miss Dish never watches television or reads newspapers.
--
John
NOTE: "From" address is deliberately wrong.
My correct e-mail address is:
desalvio["AT" SYMBOL]monitor.net
Bruce Garrett
ho...@large.com (Miss Dish) wonders...
?> Are you gay? You sound so butch. You sound a little bitch, too.
<shug> I reckon that depends on who you ask around here...isn't
that right Ezekiel?
~(^@^)~
cheerybye wrote:
>
> Since you have nothing to say, say nothing. Your contribution to the
> conversation is indeed a big YAWN.
"Truth" <snicker>-
As opposed to yours?
...YAWN...
OinK!
~(^@^)~
cheerybye wrote:
>
> Are you girls going to use your kill files, or not?
No honey Miss Dish, you need to stop with the schizo name changes...
OinK!
PS-YAWN
~(^@^)~
cheerybye wrote:
>
> Lots of things go by Miss Dish,
...like 'A Clue', 'Brains', 'Humour'
OinK!
James Doemer
Who writes this crap??
Entitled to something? Whew! The only thing I've been seeing people
ask for is equal treatment under the law.. Do you consider it a
readjustment
for society to live up to the constitution?? If you do then yes, we need
some
readjustment!! Federal subsidies?? Cradle to grave care?? I do not
believe
that I've seem anyone demanding either of these in this newsgroup in
relation
to gay rights. Do you have a problem with equal treatment under the law?
cheerybye wrote in message <6bsp8d$l...@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com>...
>True, Phelps is not someone I would like to know, but neither are many of
the
>close minded individuals that come here. They think their gay, and entitled
to
>something. Perhaps a federal subsidy, perhaps special consideration,
perhaps
>care from cradle to grave. What they fail to realize is that all gay people
>are not trying to sensationalize their gayness. You are what you are,
accept
>it, and don't expect the whole world to readjust just for you. These silly
>individuals think through bully tactics and overwhelming the people that
>disagree with them, they will win. Their demands are based on their
individual
>whims, not reality. They don't even have an argument to share regarding
their
>beliefs, just blame.
>
>In article <19980210233...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
dkin...@aol.com
>(DKing1980) wrote:
>>On 10 Feb 1998 21:26:52, "Miss Dish" <ho...@large.com> wrote:
>>> I haven't even been introduced to this Phelps person you make
>>> reference to. I imagine he is some sort of person you don't like.
>>> Is your dislike based on pre-judgement, or is he really as awful
>>> as you indicate. No, I a newbie here,
>>
>>[Raises hand]
>>Ooh! Let me! Let me!
>>
Rev. Cactus Pete
cheerybye wrote:
>
> True, Phelps is not someone I would like to know, but neither are many of the
> close minded individuals that come here. They think their gay, and entitled to
> something. Perhaps a federal subsidy, perhaps special consideration, perhaps
> care from cradle to grave. What they fail to realize is that all gay people
> are not trying to sensationalize their gayness. You are what you are, accept
> it, and don't expect the whole world to readjust just for you. These silly
> individuals think through bully tactics and overwhelming the people that
> disagree with them, they will win. Their demands are based on their individual
> whims, not reality. They don't even have an argument to share regarding their
> beliefs, just blame.
>
Uh-ohhhhhh! I detect evil twins!
-Rev. Cactus Pete
"I'm schizophrenic and so am I."
Rev. Cactus Pete
cheerybye wrote:
>
> I tried to respond to each individual that challenged me, but you seemed to
> keep dipping in like the air-headed little queen you obviously are.
(Snippety-snip for brevity and besides we all know and enjoy Rev. Oink's
sermons.)
Cheerybye, in the big picture of life none of this amounts to a hill of
cheesy poofs. Get your doctor to give you a prescription for Miltowns
and when the kids start getting on your nerves just tell them, "Wait a
minute, honey, mommy has to take her pill."
However, if you're going to walk out to very edge don't be surprised if
someone accidently pushes you over.
-Rev. Cactus Pete
"OK, do we spend the money on a funeral or a party?"
Bryant Brandon
I know I shouldn't, but...
In article <6btbik$k...@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>, ho...@large.com (Miss
Dish) wrote:
>...I am full of shit, and this is an honest thought...it is accepted. Simply
>being full of shit doesn't alter my opinion. Why am I full of shit? Go ahead,
>give me your...shit until the cows come home, but that isn't a discussion,
>it's...ma[n]ure.
B.B. --I am not a goat!
Note: My e-mail address is valid, go ahead and mail me, but
make damn sure YOURS is valid first.
Rev. Cactus Pete
Miss Dish wrote:
>
> Is that all? Why bother to post?
>
OK, let's try this again. Read my full and pouting lips.
As I explained earlier to your evil twin sister (you know, the one who wears that OTHer
set of clothes in your very large, dark and desolate closet), in the big picture of
life none of this amounts to a hill of cheesy poofs (with apologies to the Right Rev.
Oink).
If your postings *truly* reflect who you are (and the jury is still very much out on
that one, hun) and how you feel, then you have my deepest sympathies for having chosen
to travel down such a desperately unhappy road (from which there is no off-ramp) through
life and I hope I never have the occasion to be within 100 miles of you let alone in the
same room.
In short, you received the exact reply your posting merited.
-Rev. Cactus Pete
"Devil with the blue dress, blue dress, blue dress, devil with the blue dress on."
~(^@^)~
Rev. Cactus Pete wrote:
>
> cheerybye wrote:
> >
> (Snippety-snip for brevity and besides we all know and enjoy Rev. Oink's
> sermons.)
>
> Cheerybye, in the big picture of life none of this amounts to a hill of
> cheesy poofs. ...
> -Rev. Cactus Pete
> "OK, do we spend the money on a funeral or a party?"
I say we buy MsEllen a new pair o' Birkenstocks!!
RevOinK!
Ward Stewart
On Sun, 08 Feb 1998 18:18:10 -0700, "Rev. Cactus Pete"
<cp...@nospam.com> wrote:
>Miss Dish wrote:
>>
>> How about an attack on homos by a homo? You silly individuals are spreading
>> more aids than you are controlling. You have attached yourselves to a bunch of
>>
>
>Whoaaaaaaa. I'm stocking up on cheesy poofs, Japanese seaweed
>twiglets, and Arizona Iced Tea, pulling up my comfy chair and settling
>in to watch the thread that develops from THIS one.
>
>Go for it boys!
>
>-Rev. Cactus Pete
> "And she calls herself 'Miss Dish'?!!!"
>
I wouldn't touch it with a stick --- either a psycho or a troll, way
not worth the trouble!
Ward
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Freedom and justice cannot be parceled out in pieces to suit
political convenience. Like Martin, I don't believe you can
stand for freedom for one group of people and deny it to others."
--Coretta Scott King
-------------------------------------------------------------
Alex
Miss Dish wrote:
>
> I know you. You can't stand to ever have a thought go through your mixmaster
> that you can't agree with. You are quick to accuse, shy of thought, and
> of enlightenment. You demand equality, but cannot offer equality in return. It
> is difficult to discuss issues with you, for you are alway right, quite a
> little bit to the left, but always right.
>
You have some kind of point you're trying to make here, Grandma? Which
"issues" are you trying to discuss? You seem to have forgotten to
include them.
--
Alex
The KKKristians are coming, find out more!
http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/village/7525
Diedrich G. Kohl
On Tue 1998/02/10 22:07:14 GMT, in <34E0CF92...@traverse.lib.mi.us>
Chad Lautner <ae...@traverse.lib.mi.us> wrote:
> Ms. Dish,
> You certainly seem to be, different. I'll grant you that 1/3 of the
> people posting here automatically label anyone anti-gay as a Phelpesian.
> I've not been in here long enough to get that Phelpdar down yet :)
You may reconsider the matter if you observe the fray long enough
to notice the similarities in writing style, pet canned arguments,
posting hosts and habits, and self-contradictions behind the ever-
revolving aliases. Not to mention the fake "gays" who miraculously
appear out of the woodwork to echo and support the premises and
propaganda contained in the homophobic rantings. Usually they're
not quite so stupid that they're identifiable after only a couple
of posts, and sometimes they even manage to avoid contradicting
themselves within the same post, but Miss Dish was a particularly
stupid and lame attempt.
> What exactly DID you mean when you said you were born gay....
> I didn't quite get that.
You will note that "Miss Dish" has not seen fit to respond to your
question, nor has he/she/it addressed the contradictions I pointed
out. In the same post, he/she/it it was both a current "homo" who
was "born that way", but "lived [past tense] many years that way".
In another post, he/she/it asserts that homosexuals "weren't born
that way, ... they acquired their neurosis".
--Rick
David Packham
-> I haven't even been introduced to this Phelps person you make referen
-> imagine he is some sort of person you don't like. Is your dislike
-> based on pre-judgement, or is he really as awful as you indicate.
-> No, I a newbie here,
The Phelps that they are referring to is the Rev. Fred Phelps, probably
one of the most demented anti-gay activists known. He is the one with
the on-going "God Hates Fags" campaign, outs people and the like...the
man is a real beast, he makes even some devout Christians I know sick to
their stomach.
David Packham
-> No matter how you slice it it comes out queer. We, of the non-piss el
-> set, like gay, or homo, but you are definitely queer. You have so muc
-> piss-elegant hate storred up that you must be a mess. You are the
-> kind of
-> person that causes this Phelps person to be successful in having peo
-> his load of shit. You moan and groan, and have a list of demands that
-> quit. When you reach obstacles, you use them as an excuse to moan and
-> more. Now, come up with some bright little cliches to convince everyo
-> are well thought out individual.
Be careful, yes there are those in our commumnity who act that way
(piss-elegance, as you state) but then thee are those of us who are
nothing more than average Joes, so to speak. I don't flaunt my
preference, for I believe there is an appropriate time and place to do
so. I do *not* refer to others in my community as "girl", but I do
occasionally like to sport my leathers, provided it's the right time and
place. And I'm far from militant, but I like to try and get involved in
my community.
John De Salvio
In article <6cl2k6$1...@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>, ho...@large.com (Miss
Dish) wrote:
> Think again asshole! Miss dish does not consider the likes of you worthy of a
> tasteful discussion. Your class, obviously got stuck in your well used
ass. Be
> careful or you'll give homosexuality a bad name. You should start a newsgroup
> wher the silly go to camp.
Translation: " I can't come up with any answers to the very valid
questions, and can't come up with anything in rebuttal but verbal abuse."
Diedrich G. Kohl
On Sat 1998/02/21 00:26:23 GMT, in <desalvo-2002...@rp10.pm.monitor.net>
John De Salvio <des...@monitor.net> wrote:
> In article <6cl2k6$1...@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>,
> ho...@large.com (Miss Dish) wrote:
[Miss Dish has a hissy-fit as a result of my having pointed out
her/his/its blatant self-contradictions and my having identified
him/her/it as a fake gay:]
>> Think again asshole! Miss dish does not consider the likes of you worthy of a
>> tasteful discussion. Your class, obviously got stuck in your well used ass. Be
>> careful or you'll give homosexuality a bad name. You should start a newsgroup
>> wher the silly go to camp.
> Translation: " I can't come up with any answers to the very valid
> questions, and can't come up with anything in rebuttal but verbal abuse."
This is true!
Not to mention that the direct question put to "Miss Dish" to
explain what he/she/it meant, and which "Miss Dish" refused to
answer, was posted not by myself but by Chad Lautner, who posed
the question very neutrally and politely, without any inferences
or assertions about the sincerity or legitimacy of "Miss Dish".
--Rick
Brandon Burt
No gay person would ever have written (But Miss Dish wrote) in message
<6cl2k6$1...@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>...
>Think again asshole! Miss dish does not consider the likes of you worthy of
a
>tasteful discussion. Your class, obviously got stuck in your well used ass.
Be
>careful or you'll give homosexuality a bad name. You should start a
newsgroup
>wher the silly go to camp.
No drag queen would ever have used the phrase "your class obviously got
stuck in your well-used ass". No drag queen would ever say "be careful or
you'll give homosexuality a bad name". No drag queen talks ABOUT camp, or
even more mystifying, "going to" camp ...
Why is it so easy for gays to spot genuine camp, and so hard for straights
to fake it?
-Brandon Burt