Who is this Jesus?
Rod Jackson
disk...@users.jaxnet.com (Shawn) writes:
>Zarkov wrote:
>: On 29 Oct 97 11:37:09 GMT, "Matthew Bigelow" <mbig...@aircadiz.net>
>: >Jesus is the only Begotten God. God made Flesh. 100% man and yet
>: >100% God. He is a historical person that truly exihisted on this planet,
>: >of
>: >that not even Jew, who deny that he is God, will debate.
>: >
>: >(snipped Daniel's stuff)
>: Now I'm just a silly mathematician, so I don't know much about
>: numbers, but if I'm not mistaken, 100% + 100% = 200%. Would you care
>: to explain this in detail?
I think the point is the infinite cannot be fully comprehended by the
finite....
RAZA 1997
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"I could say 'I love you', you could say 'it isn't true'
but how could you say that about someone who died for you!" PETRA
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Gentle Touch
On 7 Nov 1997 22:18:45 GMT, s32...@student.uq.edu.au (Rod Jackson)
wrote:
>I think the point is the infinite cannot be fully comprehended by the
>finite....
Infinite what/who? Finite what/who?
>
>RAZA 1997
Kim,YoungSeak
Shawn wrote:
>
> Zarkov wrote:
> : On 29 Oct 97 11:37:09 GMT, "Matthew Bigelow" <mbig...@aircadiz.net>
> : >Jesus is the only Begotten God. God made Flesh. 100% man and yet
> : >100% God. He is a historical person that truly exihisted on this planet,
> : >of
> : >that not even Jew, who deny that he is God, will debate.
> : >
> : >(snipped Daniel's stuff)
> : Now I'm just a silly mathematician, so I don't know much about
> : numbers, but if I'm not mistaken, 100% + 100% = 200%. Would you care
> : to explain this in detail?
>
> one & come up with 6,000.
Glad to meet you. (I am Korean)
Jesus is not a man.
Though he has blood and flesh, he is not a man.
Didnt'you admit this truth?
Christian believe God = Jesus = holly spirit. And this belief is true.
Are you really want to know Jesus?
You Should read Bible.
THANKS A LOT.
Yang Hu
Kim,YoungSeak wrote:
> Glad to meet you. (I am Korean)
> Jesus is not a man.
> Though he has blood and flesh, he is not a man.
> Didnt'you admit this truth?
> Christian believe God = Jesus = holly spirit. And this belief is true.
> Are you really want to know Jesus?
> You Should read Bible.
> THANKS A LOT.
Glad to meet you. (I am Chinese)
Zeus is not a man.
Though he has blood and flesh, he is not a man.
Didn't YOU admit this truth?
Pagan belive GOD=ZEUS=Hercule's father. And this belief is true
Are you really want to know Zeus?
You Should read Illiad.
THANKS A LOT
Yang
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w...@doctor4u.com
In article <643t5v$7...@news.service.uci.edu>,
Hi, Yang!
You can make an subjective experience:
Without any pr-judgement, call for "Zeus". What you feel ? Then call for
Jesus. What you feel ? The same ? If yes, you should make this experience
again. Say yor problem (Who doesn't have it ?) to him. Exercise your
faith (ou you haven't it ?). Wait for his action. You don't need theories
or theology, you need practtice in knowing God.
Thanks, your friend
Woo
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Ezekiel Krahlin
On Sat, 08 Nov 1997 10:00:36 GMT, jha...@fia.net (Gentle Touch) said:
On 30 Oct 1997, Meli...@Yamnix.com (Melissa) wrote:
> In article <19971030004...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
> plo...@aol.com (PLouys) wrote:
> >>
> >>Jesus is the only Begotten God. God made Flesh. 100% man and yet
> >>100% God. He is a historical person that truly exihisted on this planet,
> >>of
> >>that not even Jew, who deny that he is God, will debate.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Why are all of you Xian dupes showing up in a newsgroup titled
> alt.satanism?
I am a gay Christian, too...but I would never *dream of imposing my
belief system upon anyone of any other religion or world view. That
would go against Christ's teachings! Unfortunately, you will find
extremely few Christians who really practice the Golden Rule. I have
no problem with other peoples' beliefs, and am sick with so much of
Christianity being used more as tool of evil than good.
I can easily understand anyone's disgust of Christians, because so
many are blatant hypocrites and bigots. I attend no church, nor do I
relate to most self-proclaimed Christians, anywhere near as much as I
do to atheists, Jews, paganists, Buddhists, and so on. Jesus did
predict in the end times that the majority of Christians would beg for
His recognition of their supposedly good works, but He will say, "I
know you not."
I also believe in the female Christ, "Christa", and Goddess as
Creator...by the way. My interpretation of Christ is as "everyman" or
"every person"...for we are each in our own way, crucified by the
suffering and challenges that come with life's experience. I also
find the essence of Christianity appealing, as it does without all the
glitter and pantheon of gods and goddesses, all that
razzle-dazzle...and instead focuses on a very personal endearment
between two souls. That is very human, to me. Unfortunately, the
Catholic Church stepped in, and created all this pomp and circumstance
and owned what started out as a plain story for everyone to take to
heart.
But this is just my viewpoint. I am also a student of world religions,
and realize they all (for the most part) preach sisterly and brotherly
love, and nonviolent solutions to our problems and differences.
> To troll their religious harassment. Because you can't possibly have
> freedom OF your religion without freedom FROM theirs.
I know of no religion--or any "ism" for that matter--that does not
have its own history of obsessive persecution, including atheism
(examples here would be the purges of communist Russia, China, and
Korea). But with each "-ism" dwells a handful of true devotees, who
walk the righteous path in whatever name they give to their creator.
> Of course that's just my opinion.
> Anyone who doesn't agree with me is clearly wrong.
>
> - Melissa
Ooops! I almost missed the warning, Melissa! ;-)
I stumbled upon your message while fumbling through DejaNews, and
would not otherwise be in this newsgroup, alt.satanism, on a regular
basis. But I'm glad I did. I checked out your web site, and really
enjoyed your proposal for a "Rainbow Militia"...including owning the
true and righteous definition of militia. You will be amused to
discover my own proposal of "The Blue Rose Militia", which treatise
can be read on my own web site. Also, don't miss one of my
pro-Lesbian graphic cartoons, called LESBIAN MARINES STORM THE
CAPITOL. It's under my Icons/Decals section, or you can jump to it
directly at:
<http://ezekielk.simplenet.com/icons/dykeprez.htm>
Let this essay be my way of celebrating my own Christian style of
being homosexual (as well as a fun way to cap off this message):
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JESUS ON THE OKRA WINFREE SHOW
(a parable for the 21st century)
copyright 1997 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
(Jehovah's Queer Witness)
Jesus Christ returns to planet earth and, of course, He
is invited to a LOT of talk shows...in order for us to
understand better, what this man called Jesus is really all
about. So it is on the Okra Winfree Show He is asked the
question:
"Jesus, what do YOU think was the most important advice
YOU ever received in Your lifetime as the Suffering Messiah?"
Jesus deliberates on this a few moments before answering:
"Well, Okra, I don't consider My incarnation as The Messiah
among the most relevant of My past-life experiences. Even so,
during that existence, I received so many excellent words of
wisdom, that I really CAN'T pick a favorite. But I'll tell
you this: I shall never forget the WORST piece of advice
ANYONE gave Me, in ANY of My multitudinous lives."
Okra Winfree leans forward in profound curiosity and
says: "Okay, Jesus, and what was that?"
Jesus finally answers: "Well, it was during my PRESENT
incarnation (as you now see Me), and it came from a
psychiatrist who once told Me: 'Jesus, You can't save the
world.'"
Okra parries: "THAT revelation must have been quite a
SHOCKeroonie to the ol' ego there, buddy!"
"Too-SHAY, Okra," retorts Jesus, lighting a Camel Light
100 to soothe His jangled nerves, "too-SHAY."
"May-uh KOOL-pah, may-uh KOOL-pah," Okra chuckles, "It's
ALWAYS fun to play devil's advocate with You, Jesus."
"Fine with Me, Okra," grins Our Savior, "as long as YOU
don't mind an occasional DIP in the Lake Of Fire."
"Well, another BURNING question I have..." (audience
guffaws before Okra continues) "...regards the HUMAN side of
Jesus Christ: Besides tobacco, do you have any OTHER
addictions?"
Jesus blushes, and lowers His head. "Yes. One other.
Boys. In that way, I'm like My Daddy."
Suddenly, a voice booms out of nowhere:
"REMEMBER THAT JOKE, SON: I'D WALK A MILE FOR A CAMEL,
TWO FOR A SHEEP OR GOAT, AND THREE FOR A BOY? HA, HA!"
Okra Winfree raises her eyes to the ceiling and, slightly
disgruntled, challenges Our Holy Guest: "Can't you EVER get
Your Father to show up in person?"
Jesus shrugs His shoulders. "God knows I've been trying,
but He seems to take everything like one, big, fat joke. You
know, I can't even get HIM to see ME whenever I want!"
"Wait a minute," Okra grows serious, "You mean to tell me
You STILL can't be with Your Father?"
"Well, not quite," ponders The Son Of Man, "It's just
that He sees ME whenever He wants, but I don't get to see HIM
whenever I want. It's just not fair."
Okra drops a pensive arm from her chin and says, sadly,
"No, Jesus, that isn't fair at all."
"HEY JESUS, I GOT TWO FRONT-ROW TICKETS TO SEE 'JESUS
CHRIST SUPERSTAR' TONIGHT...WANNA GO?"
Our Man Of The Cross sighs and flips a rude finger to the
sky: "FUCK you, Dad, just FUCK you."
"OKAY, GUY, BE THAT WAY. I GOT PLENTY OF HOT CHERUBS WHO
ARE DYING FOR A DATE WITH BIG DICK!"
Okra, in raging fury, jumps onto her chair and waves an
angry fist at the ceiling: "God, don't You think You're going
a little too far? Think of Your Wonderful Son!"
"I ALWAYS THINK OF MY SON. LAST NIGHT WHEN I WAS HUMPING
LUCIFER, I THOUGHT OF MY SON: OH JESUS, OH JESUS, OH JESUS!"
"Don't talk to Him, Okra," grumbles Jesus, "just don't
talk to Him. It's the only way you'll get Him to leave us
alone." Hands shaking, Our Lord attempts to light another
cigarette, but drops the match book.
"HERE, JESUS, HAVE AN ARCHANGEL. I'M DONE WITH HIM FOR A
WHILE. MAYBE HE'LL GET YOU OFF THE RAGGIE."
Out of nowhere appears an incredibly gorgeous dude,
adorned in nothing more than a bulging gold lame' loin cloth
and these opalescent, feathery white wings stretching across
the entire breadth of the stage. He alights by Jesus, who
caresses the firm, smooth butt of the archangel, then grabs
His Own Ample Crotch and says:
"Okra, I hate to break this off, but as you can see, it's
meant to stay on and be fondled."
And with those words, the archangel's fat crown pops its
head above the loin cloth. (Camera zooms in for a yummy
closeup. Audience drools in raptured silence, as a milky
substance dribbles from the crown and down the angel's spear.
When the camera regretfully pulls back, this glorious angel
tosses His luxurious mane of silver hair, and laughs):
"MEET BIG DICK. HAW, HAW!"
Then He lifts Jesus up, cradles Him in His massive arms,
and looks straight into the camera:
"I LOVE MY SON MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE UNIVERSE.
LET'S GO, JESUS, YA GOT A DATE WITH ME, ALWAYS."
They vanish, leaving Okra Winfree behind, along with a
half-empty pack of Camel Light 100s lying on the empty chair.
And, of course, the audience.
-----finis
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Make it sin to *not waste seed!
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