Delving in Del*F*t (AKA Delft 1.0 - the Final Release)
Michael The Roach Janszen
Sunday, June 22nd, an unlikely group of heroes descended on the dungeons of
Delft to throw fear and horror into the hearts of the monsters there. Fully
equipped with adventuring gear (1) and weapons (2), they gathered en masse
in the "Grand Café Verderop" from there to bring chaos into the sleepy
village.
Members of the party were:
Jos Dingjan
Leo Breebart
Alan Connell
TimT
Robert Collier
Mike Knell
CyberCat
Jeroen Metselaar
Jeroen Burger
Jeremy Stark
Eelko
Special guests were:
Jennifer Barber
Faith(3)
Gina(3)
Also attending was the official Dutch AFPMeet reporter, yours truly. (5)
The meet started at 5 p.m., when after 1.5 hours it was decided that
everyone had arrived and the weather improved a bit (it had been quite a
downpour in the meantime), some exotic food was consumed. Some people
almost earned the wrath of the innkeeper calling his Gyros Döner Kebap, but
this faux-pas in the Greek-Turkish-relations could be prevented.
After the food was consumed, the meeting moved to the Ben&Jerry's by way of
the open market place, where the long-awaited duel over Jennifer Barber was
held to the amusement of the spectators (4). However, it ended in a Draw
when both combattants almost simultaneously ran out of ammunition.
Thereafter, Ben & Jerry's once more proved that they _do_ produce
comestible ice cream; then the party decided to end the evening at the
"Locus Publicus", where the final beta had been booted.
Due to the size of the group, discussions tended to split up and move
completely different ways, so here are a few of the topics mentioned:
- AFP
- someone is cancelling all EARTHLINK.COM posts, which included Rocky
- Beer (is it vegan? probably not)
- mashed potatoes and sex (don't ask!)
- follow-spots in the theatre
- aliens
- recruiting videos in Japanese
- phone systems
- T-Shirts were translated
- drink sizes
- table arrangements
- Dutch Singers
- absent afpersons
- Clarecraft arrangements
- Greek Food
- plane flights
- ISPs
- coasters were ripped to shreds
- How to pronounce "scone"
- The movie "When Harry Met Sally"
and lots of others
As the following day was a working day for some afparticipants, the first
people leaft early. However, a date for NL 5.0 was already picked: Saturday
September 6th.
Due to the size of the group, there probably were many noteworthy quotes
that bypassed me (6). Anyone to add to this is welcome...
Memorable Quotes and Events
Five minutes into the meet, the first PSION at a Dutch afpMeet was spotted
When TimT showed his rubber chicken, the possibility of Mr. Fox showing up
was mentioned, but then the meet probably moved before he found the café.
The chicken, however, was scared the whole evening and hid.
On SuperSoakers: "This is a mysterious European custom that I don't quite
understand" (Mike Knell)
About the Heineken Brewery in Toulouse, France: "That's not a brewery,
that's a missionary outpost" (TimT)
About the Verderop: "This ois a pub, Mike, but not as we know it." (TimT)
Gina compared Leo's looks to those of Adam Sandler
After the duel, TimT (who had noticed Jennifer's lack of enthusiasm) went
near her with his super soaker. "Jennifer! ... Were you paying attention?"
Jennifer looked uncertainly at the gun. "No, Jennifer, you were _not_
paying attention!" Jennifer flinched slightly when TimT pointed his gun at
her. "Because if you had been, you'd know..." TimT pulled the trigger,
Jennifer ducked "... that the gun is empty".
"I'm stirring this because it's hot, But then, it's suposed to be hot
chocolate" (Gina)
"The Danish are hard of Herring" (Jeremy)
Mike: "If you mention computers one more time..." - Jos: "...I'll reset
you."
Jeremy: "Is this jet lag or boredom?" - Gina: "Train lag"
"Nightmare on Delft Street" (Jeremy)
We tried calling Michelena, but her phone was constantly busy (over 1
hour). After the first attempt, TimT remarked, "She is bloody well
engaged!" - Jeroen (I think): "With whom?"
After the umptieth attempt, when TimT was leaving, he finished with the
words, "Michelena is now officially engaged."
(1) e.g., umbrellas and raincoats
(2) Super Soakers of all sizes, from the Assault gun all the way down to
the derringer hold-out gun size
(3) faith and Gina are not afpeople ATM, though they show promise
(4) although Jennifer was singularly unimpressed by the proceedings and
hardly even looked.
(5) It was duly noted that - like in the first two Dutch afpMeets, the
foreign contingent outnumbered the Dutch...
(6) any anytime I made any note for this report - like names of attendees
or topics - people would look uneasily
penI'yIn 'ej pechep
Michael "The Roach" Janszen
The Official Michelena Riosa Testosterone Brigade
Peerless Leader of the Post-Apocapalyptic Forces
Spammer trap - when replying by e-mail, drop the last letter
of the address...
Leo Breebaart
ro...@earthling.netz (Michael "The Roach" Janszen) writes:
> Leo Breebart
No comment. Grrrrr.
> Robert Collier
> Mike Knell
... who came over all the way from the UK for no other particular reason
than to attend this afpmeet. Sad, isn't it? :-)
> Due to the size of the group, discussions tended to split up and move
> completely different ways, so here are a few of the topics mentioned:
>
> - AFP
> - someone is cancelling all EARTHLINK.COM posts, which included Rocky
> - Beer (is it vegan? probably not)
At the end of the evening, our bar bill at Locus showed we had consumed a
total of 24 pints of Guiness. Considering the fact that several people left
early, that the ladies present didn't drink anything except for hot
chocolate, and that Rob, Roach, and me didn't drink any beer either, I'd
say that that is quite a staggering amount of booze....
> - coasters were ripped to shreds
No comment.
> - The movie "When Harry Met Sally"
Lots of movies, actually. As usual, everybody turned out to pretty much
like the same list of "usual suspects": Princess Bride, Strictly Ballroom,
Young Einstein, Muriel's Wedding, yadda yadda yadda. We're all sheep.
At one point I think I was discussing Abba with five people, neither of
whom was actually born at the time Waterloo won the Eurovision song
contest. Argh.
> However, a date for NL 5.0 was already picked: Saturday
> September 6th.
News to me!
> Gina compared Leo's looks to those of Adam Sandler
I tried to ascertain if this was, in fact, a compliment or not (not having
the faintest idea who Adam Sandler was), but the conversation went downhill
rapidly from there. I have mercifully forgotten all exact details.
--
Leo Breebaart (l...@lspace.org)
Tim T.
In article <33c99fea....@library.lspace.org>,
al...@lspace.org (The Bellinghman) writes:
>ro...@earthling.netz (Michael "The Roach" Janszen) wrote:
>
>>- someone is cancelling all EARTHLINK.COM posts, which included Rocky
>
>persuade him that staying on Earthlink is going to remain a problem. A
>lot of sites are refusing to forward stuff from Earthlink simply because
>of the volume of spam coming from there. It's not AGIS, quite, but it's
>halfway to being under a Usenet Death Penalty (the electronic equivalent
>to being sent to Coventry).
I'm willing to set up a mail to news gateway on dibbler, if that's
what it takes. However, I think a friendly note from our afpa
moderator would work nicely, in this case. I've forwarded the
relevant information.
>I doubt that *all* EL posts are actually being cancelled, BTW - I've
>certainly seen no evidence recently of a rogue canceller targetting EL,
>but just refusing to accept any news articles with an EL ID will mean
>that news propagation will be lousy.
Well.. The evidence:
Several cancel messages for earthlink postings in afp, all made by
the same person, all on the same day.
I only get the cancelmessages for a very small newsfeed though;
based on the available evidence it might be somebody with a grudge
against either afp or Rocky, though that seems very, very unlikely.
On the other hand, I do get asr, and Joe Zeff's posts haven't been
cancelled.
Let's not jump to any conclusions, and wait to see if a polite note
will work, before anybody does anything hasty, OK ?
TimT.
>Alan
>--
>Alan Bellingham 'alt.fan.pratchett has all the attention
>al...@lspace.org span of a butterfly on cocaine.'
>* --> Terry Pratchett writing about afp
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ti...@dibbler.iaehv.nl Voodoo Programmer/Keeper of the Rubber Chicken
"Bother," said Pooh, as the environmentalist ***ed his tree.
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Tim T.
In article <33ae4806...@news.lspace.org>,
ro...@earthling.netz (Michael "The Roach" Janszen) writes:
>
> where the long-awaited duel over Jennifer Barber was
>held to the amusement of the spectators (4). However, it ended in a Draw
>when both combattants almost simultaneously ran out of ammunition.
I'm sure the spectators included some japanese tourists.. I think
I hit one..
>Thereafter, Ben & Jerry's once more proved that they _do_ produce
>comestible ice cream; then the party decided to end the evening at the
Cherry Garcia.. I didn't believe it then, I still don't believe
it... But I do think I like the taste..
>"Locus Publicus", where the final beta had been booted.
>Due to the size of the group, discussions tended to split up and move
>completely different ways, so here are a few of the topics mentioned:
>
>- AFP
>- someone is cancelling all EARTHLINK.COM posts, which included Rocky
Yeah.. On the other hand, the man seems to know what he's doing
otherwise. I'll forward a copy of the relevant cancelposts
somewhere, and we'll see what can be done about that.
>- recruiting videos in Japanese
Aaarrggghhh..
It was a special promotion video for the Japanese market. ASML are
looking for Japanese customers.
And software engineers: Anybody with Unix, TCP/IP, Java, C,
X-windows experience looking for a job, contact me. Can't promise
much, but I can pass on your C.V. to the right people.
> As the following day was a working day for some afparticipants, the
> first people leaft early. However, a date for NL 5.0 was already
> picked: Saturday September 6th.
It'll be an Eindhoven meet, people. I'll try and arrange a live
newsfeed from the pub.
>Memorable Quotes and Events
>
>Five minutes into the meet, the first PSION at a Dutch afpMeet was spotted
Three hours later, Jeremy produced the first Newton at an afpmeet, I
think.
>When TimT showed his rubber chicken, the possibility of Mr. Fox showing up
>was mentioned, but then the meet probably moved before he found the
>café.
And he never even called...
>The chicken, however, was scared the whole evening and hid.
Not scared.. Just lurking, waiting for Mr. Fox to come in, so it
could jump out at him..
It's back to its usual role as a project manager at ASML.
>(5) It was duly noted that - like in the first two Dutch afpMeets, the
>foreign contingent outnumbered the Dutch...
I tried to call in reinforcements.. but my sister was too busy...
TimT.
Communications officer in charge of finding Michelena engaged.
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ti...@dibbler.iaehv.nl Voodoo Programmer/Keeper of the Rubber Chicken
Programmer/Analyst : Program first, analyze later
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CyberCat
ro...@earthling.netz (Michael "The Roach" Janszen) wrote:
>After the food was consumed, the meeting moved to the Ben&Jerry's by way of
>the open market place, where the long-awaited duel over Jennifer Barber was
>held to the amusement of the spectators (4). However, it ended in a Draw
>when both combattants almost simultaneously ran out of ammunition.
Not really. TimT may have had the biggest gun, but mine was more
efficient by far. By the time Tim's gun was empty, I still had enough
water left to defend myself against the sneaky little gun Jos brought
along.
The problem is, it's not the one that has the most ammo left at the
end that wins, but the one that hits first. As we both hit each other
almost simultaniously it's impossible to say who won.
It was fun though. We started out the usual way, back to back moving
apart ten paces each, but when we turned and fired it turned out
neither of our SuperSoakers had a 20 pace range. At that point we just
charged each other while firing, which I don't think is usual duelling
procedure...
>(4) although Jennifer was singularly unimpressed by the proceedings and
>hardly even looked.
At which point Tim said "That does it. We should both propose to
Michelena instead."
Roach forgot to mention the ideas for AFP - The Computer Game. I don't
remember the exact details, but it did include dodging spam and
spam-traps while trying to post to AFP.
And then there was The Question. Are there any monkeys on the
Discworld? We know the Librarian isn't one[1] but do they exist?
Getting back home on Monday turned out to be more difficult than
expected. Due to a massive electrical failure in the centre part of
the country no trains were running on the normal route. I had to take
an alternative route that was about 50% longer. Still, it was worth
it.
[1] Please put me down, nice monk^H^H^H^Hape. I said you weren't one,
didn't I?
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| It happened sometime late last night.
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Eelco Giele
Michael "The Roach" Janszen <ro...@earthling.netz> wrote:
> Eelko
*snif* I think I'll change my name to TAWSO [1][2]
> Special guests were:
> Jennifer Barber
> Faith(3)
> Gina(3)
And, to stay in the names business, of which one was able to
pronounce my name correctly the first time she tried. [3]
I was impressed.
<snip>
> completely different ways, so here are a few of the topics mentioned:
Well, it was not really mentioned but more something happening. The
shaping of a delicate piece of art at the greek restaurant. We'll
have to wait for the pictures to fully apreciate it, so I'll just
shut up now.
Greetings, Eelco
[1] The Always Wrong Spelled One. Thrust me on that one. They even
manage to make spelling mistakes in my name (most of the time my last
name) if I _spell_ it to them.
[2] But I doubt this will mke things better.
[3] Sorry can't say which one, it was late and dark on the attick.
Michael Dimmick
>
>persuade him that staying on Earthlink is going to remain a problem. A
>lot of sites are refusing to forward stuff from Earthlink simply because
>of the volume of spam coming from there. It's not AGIS, quite, but it's
>halfway to being under a Usenet Death Penalty (the electronic equivalent
>to being sent to Coventry).
According to Earthlink, they *are* doing something about this.
They've stopped *all* SMTP routing through their site, and have put
delays on NNTP, apparently. Read all about it in news.groups
(forgotten the subject, sorry).
I do think that unfortunately they do still appear to have a hole, but
no site should have to do this. They are investigating things and
have (IIRC) started informing complainants about the results of their
investigations.
In the nature of things, at least *some* posts are being put through
Earthlink, and we don't want to kill those, either. It's an extremely
bad precedent for Usenet and the Internet Mail system as a whole,
because the system relies on sites routing mail and news to other
sites.
>I doubt that *all* EL posts are actually being cancelled, BTW - I've
>certainly seen no evidence recently of a rogue canceller targetting EL,
>but just refusing to accept any news articles with an EL ID will mean
>that news propagation will be lousy.
I haven't heard about it happening, but haven't seen any posts from
Earthlink for a while.
I wouldn't want them to have to shut down over this. In my dealings
with them, they have seemed to be among the best at dealing with junk
email and spam. Them, UUNet, Pipex and Demon actually seem to do
something about it.
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