Dumb and Dumber Americans
js...@erols.com
co...@fur.ermine.com (Darin Cowan) wrote:
>: to reach educational golds for our children.. I'm not sure
>: why maybe it is the misconseption that this is the land of milk and
>: honey???
>Judging from your writing skills, I would guess that you've never
>acheived an educational gold... nor silver, nor bronze. You appear to be
>quite illiterate. I find it fascinating that you can even use a computer.
ashe...@osf1.gmu.edu (Andrew Shepherd) wrote:
Why is it always assumed that just because somebody is a citizen of
the U.S. that he/she is also causasian and a native speaker of English
or that typos in e-mail constitute illiteracy? Poor proofreading
skills maybe but illiteracy? Absurd!
I missed the beginning of this misposted thread, but I am curious why
individuals from the U.K., Europe, and Australia constantly feel the
need to knock people from the Americas (when you say 'Americans' I
assume you mean all people in Canada, the U.S., Honduras, Brazil,
Mexico, Peru, etc. since 'America' is not a country but a continent(s)
according to the last map I looked at) in order to feel a little
self-esteem about themselves, their culture and their nation. If you
don't like the U.S. then don't live here, don't visit here, don't go
to school here, don't buy products made here, don't use technology
pioneered here, etc. It's as simple as that.
There is absolutely no need to attack people personally. Do I need to
knock the Aussies because the ones I met in Taiwan and China were the
biggest racist, simple-minded thugs I think I've ever encountered?
Nope. Do I need to knock all the Brits because of their colonial
attrocities, the American Revolution, Cromwell (I'm of Irish descent)?
Nope. None of it. So, grow up folks, and start posting this kind of
stuff in the proper newsgroups.
PeeJaye
<cut some wonderfully thought-out things here>
> If you
>don't like the U.S. then don't live here, don't visit here, don't go
>to school here, don't buy products made here, don't use technology
>pioneered here, etc. It's as simple as that.
FINALLY!!! I posted a similar remark a few months back when the
whole US/UK, US/Canada thing was going on, but no one seemed to
care/understand. THANK YOU for agreeing with me/seeing things for
what they really are.
Regards,
PeeJaye
If your computer says, "Printer Out Of Paper,"
this problem cannot be resolved by continuously
clicking the "OK" button.
Jennifer O'Connor
Public Relations
Internet Discovery Ltd
PeeJaye
>Bottom line is they're all pissed off cuz we pretty much rule the world.
>
>Fuck 'em.
Though I may or may not agree with that statement or any other
statements made of the same nature in this newsgroup, it is exactly
that kind of remark that starts this anti-US bullshit that keeps
popping up. If we all keep our "#1 country" opinions to ourselves,
and get on to posting some tasteless jokes (that haven't been posted a
MILLION times) then the world would be a much happier place. OK, so
the world wouldn't be, but at least we would. :)
Tony
On Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:10:21 GMT, je...@idiscover.net (PeeJaye) wrote:
><cut some wonderfully thought-out things here>
>
>> If you
>>don't like the U.S. then don't live here, don't visit here, don't go
>>to school here, don't buy products made here, don't use technology
>>pioneered here, etc. It's as simple as that.
>
>FINALLY!!! I posted a similar remark a few months back when the
>whole US/UK, US/Canada thing was going on, but no one seemed to
>care/understand. THANK YOU for agreeing with me/seeing things for
>what they really are.
>
>Regards,
>PeeJaye
>
>If your computer says, "Printer Out Of Paper,"
>this problem cannot be resolved by continuously
>clicking the "OK" button.
>
>Jennifer O'Connor
>Public Relations
>Internet Discovery Ltd
Tony
On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:20:57 GMT, mjan...@xs4all.nl (Firestarter) wrote:
>
>Oh, yeah? Jeez, I don't remember that great American invasion where
>all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
...Yeah, because no other countries are stupid enough to push the issue THAT far. I mean, dude, if
we wanted Erope, we could take it in like 45 minutes. BUT, guess what? We don't want it. We just
want you all to admitt that you are dependant apon us.
>
>Or do you mean all those crap movies your Hollywood people have been
>flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
>(and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
>to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
>member of Monty Python for so long?)
>
.....ummm, whatever.
>If America rules the world, why can't they make American football the
>most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
>Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
>happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
>Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
>that's the only way they can make people watch it!
yeah that is why our sports are so highly supported here, cuz they suck soooo bad....get a life
loser.
>
>Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
>it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
>crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
>really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
>do with the fact that they don't like it?
....I can only speak for my self, but I think soccor is a pussy sport.
>
>Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
>in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
>burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
.....yeah right, sorry if our country does not produce enough art fags and
model/prostitue...traveling whores to earn your respect. But our technology is superior, our level
of patriotism is superior, and the only reason our country has any problems is because....we have
millions of motherfuckers from everywhere else flooding us then leeching off of our government. I am
not even going to argue about this, you are too childish to admitt to the truth.
>
>Martijn
>
Firestarter
>Bottom line is they're all pissed off cuz we pretty much rule the world.
>
>Fuck 'em.
Oh, yeah? Jeez, I don't remember that great American invasion where
all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
Or do you mean all those crap movies your Hollywood people have been
flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
(and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
member of Monty Python for so long?)
If America rules the world, why can't they make American football the
most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
that's the only way they can make people watch it!
Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
do with the fact that they don't like it?
Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
Martijn
H8 Emulator
PeeJaye <je...@idiscover.net> wrote in article
<32ee2465....@news.idiscover.co.uk>...
> <cut some wonderfully thought-out things here>
>
> > If you
> >don't like the U.S. then don't live here
I don't want to
, don't visit here,
Why would I?
don't go to school here,
not exactly regarded as a world centre of educational excellence
don't buy products made here,
wouldn't trust you to make anything more complicated than a zippo
don't use technology pioneered here,
there is very little of that, UK invents it, Germany develops it, Japan
manufactures it in Korea and sells it to Americans
etc. It's as simple as that.
Totally agree. You must either be Canadian or of God's own country.
Cheers
Andy
philski
In article <32f6f236...@news.intrepid.net> WebF...@intrepid.net (Tony) writes:
>From: WebF...@intrepid.net (Tony)
>Subject: Re: Dumb and Dumber Americans
>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:58:17 GMT
>On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:20:57 GMT, mjan...@xs4all.nl (Firestarter) wrote:
>>
>>Oh, yeah? Jeez, I don't remember that great American invasion where
>>all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
> ...Yeah, because no other countries are stupid enough to push the issue THAT
>far. I mean, dude, if
>we wanted Erope, we could take it in like 45 minutes. BUT, guess what? We don't
>want it. We just
>want you all to admitt that you are dependant apon us.
>>
>>Or do you mean all those crap movies your Hollywood people have been
>>flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
>>(and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
>>to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
>>member of Monty Python for so long?)
>>
> .....ummm, whatever.
>>If America rules the world, why can't they make American football the
>>most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
>>Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
>>happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
>>Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
>>that's the only way they can make people watch it!
>yeah that is why our sports are so highly supported here, cuz they suck soooo
>bad....get a life
>loser.
>>
>>Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
>>it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
>>crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
>>really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
>>do with the fact that they don't like it?
> ....I can only speak for my self, but I think soccor is a pussy sport.
>>
>>Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
>>in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
>>burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
>.....yeah right, sorry if our country does not produce enough art fags and
>model/prostitue...traveling whores to earn your respect. But our technology is
>superior, our level
>of patriotism is superior, and the only reason our country has any problems is
>because....we have
>millions of motherfuckers from everywhere else flooding us then leeching off of
>our government. I am
>not even going to argue about this, you are too childish to admitt to the truth.
>>
>>Martijn
>>
Hows this for American _Intelligence_????(oxymoron, ==hey! don't be callin' me
no moron!, Moron!)
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Firestarter (mjan...@xs4all.nl) wrote:
: >Bottom line is they're all pissed off cuz we pretty much rule the world.
: >
: >Fuck 'em.
:
: Oh, yeah? Jeez, I don't remember that great American invasion where
: all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
Naturally you didn't. It did happen tho, thanks to our
newest and secretest weapon: The Stealth Invasion Army
: Or do you mean all those crap movies your Hollywood people have been
: flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
As is the desire for universal comfort, affordablity,
availability, etc.
You know, stuff that isn't based of class and economic
snobbery, and actually brings diverse people together
instead of apart in a class-war-driven spate of
spiteful snobbery.
: (and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
: to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
: member of Monty Python for so long?)
Those Limeys were slow to learn, but once tutored properly
they rocked British comedy...
: If America rules the world, why can't they make American football the
: most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
No, it is because we are a compassionate and careing people
that we do not inclucate the rest of you in the ways and
mysteries of _real_ football.
After all, you weaklings might actually get killed due
to the demands of superhuman skills and body-types needed
for this rigorou, sacred sport and we wouldn't want
that to happen, now would we ?
Be content to watch us as we strut our stuff. 850 Million
did this last SUPERBOWL, world-wide.
: Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
: happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
: Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
: that's the only way they can make people watch it!
Nonsense! 850 MILLION people watched our last Superbowl
with no guns pointed at their heads! That would be
unAmerican and inappropriate for one of our most
sacred sportings events.
: Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
: it) was still king of sport.
And it is Euro-Peons who can tell us all what
happens to Kings. Happy bastile Day everyone!
: Could perhaps the fact that Americans are crap at this
: sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
: really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have
: anything to do with the fact that they don't like it?
Actually it's because your version of 'football' is so boring.
Nothing exciting ever seems to happen (except at the end
of the game when hooligans go on rmapages thru the bleachers)
: : Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education
: level in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do
: is flip burgers!
So ? That certainly doesn't stop people like Steve Jobs
(college drop-out) or Wozniak (college drop-ouy) from starting
multi-billion dollar corporations (Apple)
: Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help! :
How about a good spilling of Euro-Peon blood ?
Come on down to Miami!
H8 Emulator
Eisen Chao wrote:
>
> No, it is because we are a compassionate and careing people
> that we do not inclucate the rest of you in the ways and
> mysteries of _real_ football.
>
> After all, you weaklings might actually get killed due
> to the demands of superhuman skills and body-types needed
> for this rigorou, sacred sport and we wouldn't want
> that to happen, now would we ?
Are we talking about the same game here? Kind of like Rugby for girls with
lots of padding and stopping the game when someone gets tackled. No you're
right I don't think we'd better play that, we would be shunned as
wuss-bags.
>
> Be content to watch us as we strut our stuff. 850 Million
> did this last SUPERBOWL, world-wide.
And that happens once a year? That's about the same audience the F1 Grands
Prix get every time, and there are 16 of them. Not a lot of american teams
in there, must be all the steering that's required.
Andy
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32f6f236...@news.intrepid.net>, Tony
<WebF...@intrepid.net> writes
>>all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
>
>far. I mean, dude, if
>we wanted Erope, we could take it in like 45 minutes. BUT, guess what? We don't
>want it. We just
>want you all to admitt that you are dependant apon us.
>>
Wrong. If you wanted to take Europe - you couldn't. Tough shit yank. You
could nuke Europe, but then you'd all be dead as well.
>>Or do you mean all those crap movies your Hollywood people have been
>>flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
>>(and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
>>to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
>>member of Monty Python for so long?)
>>
> .....ummm, whatever.
>
>>If America rules the world, why can't they make American football the
>>most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
>>Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
>>happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
>>Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
>>that's the only way they can make people watch it!
>
>yeah that is why our sports are so highly supported here, cuz they suck soooo
>bad....get a life
Correct - that is why they are ONLY supported in the usa - because the
DO indeed suck badly. Get some sports.
>loser.
>
>>
>>Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
>>it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
>>crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
>>really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
>>do with the fact that they don't like it?
>
> ....I can only speak for my self, but I think soccor is a pussy sport.
No-one asked you, loser. Shut up and get back in your cage.
>>
>>Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
>>in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
>>burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
>
>.....yeah right, sorry if our country does not produce enough art fags and
>model/prostitue...traveling whores to earn your respect. But our technology is
>superior, our level
>of patriotism is superior, and the only reason our country has any problems is
>because....we have
>millions of motherfuckers from everywhere else flooding us then leeching off of
>our government. I am
>not even going to argue about this, you are too childish to admitt to the truth.
Riight....it's not that you are too childish to even know or anything
like that then ?
>>
>>Martijn
>>
>
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Buddy
> : Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
> : it) was still king of sport.
>
> happens to Kings. Happy bastile Day everyone!
>
> : sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
> : really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have
> : anything to do with the fact that they don't like it?
>
> Nothing exciting ever seems to happen (except at the end
> of the game when hooligans go on rmapages thru the bleachers
>
Well I believe that Americans would be no-where if it wasn't for
Europeans. Do you really believe that Americans are intelligent enough
to make an atomic bomb they had to import Europeans to do it . Americans
spend more time watching TV and playing dumbass sports to come up with
anything original they wait for someone else to do it and then copy it.
Anyway if you want to see a real team game look for an Irish game called
Hurling in it you get an Hurley similar to a hockey stick but with a
broader base and you have to hit a leather ball into the goals or over
the bar to score points and goals. You have no protective clothing so if
you get hit by the hurley it really hurts theres none of this padding or
anything it's a real sport where you play to win There's no pussy
footing around with time outs or stopping the game every 15 minutes for
add breaks and by the way get a life
Ground Zero
On 29 Jan 1997 10:08:22 GMT, *REMOVE*phi...@spirit.com.au (philski)
wrote:
Your right maybe we are less educated. If we were a little smarter we
would have nuked you unappreciative ass-packin, pillow-biting,
butt-pirate motherfuckers a long time ago.
Christ we practically do rule the world. What the fuck is going to
stop us from blowing the crap out of you......your so called superior
intelligence?
tke...@pacbell.net
The next time you use the internet or a telephone, remember where it came
from.
signed,
tired of ignorance
tke...@pacbell.net
Next time tou put a phone to your empty skull, try real hard to remember
where it was invented
Eisen Chao
Buddy (Come...@tcd.ie) wrote:
: > : Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
: > : it) was still king of sport.
: >
: > And it is Euro-Peons who can tell us all what
: > happens to Kings. Happy bastile Day everyone!
: >
: > : Could perhaps the fact that Americans are crap at this
: > : sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
: > : really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have
: > : anything to do with the fact that they don't like it?
: >
: > Actually it's because your version of 'football' is so boring.
: > Nothing exciting ever seems to happen (except at the end
: > of the game when hooligans go on rmapages thru the bleachers
:
: Well I believe that Americans would be no-where if it wasn't for
: Europeans.
Bullshit.
If Cortez had never landed, we Pre-Columbian Proto-Yanks
would still have:
* 'Hot' dogs instead of 'Hot Dogs' (Pierne Calientes)
* Corn Flakes
* maple Syrup on our Pancakes (made of corn)
* Tomato Ketchup
* World's first games of a kind of combined
basketball AND football, played in what can only be
described as Pre-Columbian Super Bowl ritual celebrations.
With the same kind of deadly, fanatical earnestness
that only Americans (Pre & Post Columbian) can muster up.
* Roast Turkey EVERYDAY, not just Thanksgiving.
* Graphical User Interfaces written most inconveniently
in stone instead of silicon.
* A draconian death penalty (hearts ripped out
from body in front of spectators) on top of a
structure that looks suspiciously like something
from Las Vegas
* Bright, eye-catching leisure suits with intense greens,
reds, pinks and purples. Compliments of various waxes,
clays, paints, saps and bird feathers gathered from deep
within the rainforest.
Suitably worn at a ritual event, at home, or on the
most informal of raiding party.
* Far-flung trading networks extending from what is
now Mexico all the way up to Cana-Duh (i.e. NAFTA)
You, OTOH, are deeply, deeply indebted to the Americas
as the New World was a source of easy available wealth
and resources for a half-starved and besieged Western
... (* Y-uuURRRPPPPppp *) excuse me ...
It was Gold & Silver stolen from the New World that
finally allowed Spain, Italy to end the threat of
the Moslems over-running ... (* Y-uuURRRPPPPpp *) ...
excuse me again, once and for all.
It was foodstuffs like corn and the Potato that allowed
you assholes to become self-sufficent in foodstuffs,
ending a 1,000 year cycle of famine and plenty. Your
traitional crops of wheat and rye simply did not cut it.
It was the New World that allowed you to become rich by
selling exotic luxury items like vanilla, pineapple,
the tomato, sugar, chocolate, tobacco, coffee.
So don't stand there Mr. Euro-Peon wagging your
finger at us! YOU owes us and plenty, "Bub", not
the other way around!!
: Do you really believe that Americans are intelligent enough
: to make an atomic bomb they had to import Europeans to do it .
Sure we do. To be fair, impartial and even-handed
(a most unEuro-Peon trait) let us compare the
atomic bomb develoipment teams on BOTH sides of
the Atlantic:
The head of the U.S. Manhattan Project was
a Yank, not foreign. So if we compare YOUR teams
(Euro-staffed, Euro-managed) against OUR team
(Euro-staffed, Yank-managed) I'd have to say that
Euro-Peon project management as well as over-all
science skills, sucks and badly too, as NOBODY
on the wrong side of the Atlantic ever developed
ANYTHING.
: Americans spend more time watching TV and playing dumbass sports to
: come up with anything original they wait for someone else to do it
: and then copy it.
Gee, it's good to know that we Americans were watching TV back
in the days of the first automobile, steam-driven ships, and
first airplanes, all of which we are accused of copying. We
must really be a people that are ahead of their times!
: Anyway if you want to see a real team game look for an Irish game called
: Hurling
I thot this was an Aussie sport, whose only equipting
for each player consisted of:
* Endless supply of Fosters
* A strong and/or bottomless pot-bellied gullet
* Fire Hose and/or pool of sheep-dip for
that refreshing 'after-game' clean-up.
Vince and Sue
Ground Zero <veg...@grove.ufl.edu> wrote in article
<32ef82c3....@usenet.ufl.edu>...
It's this superior intelligence that stops us from buying american cars,
tvs or stereos.
As for blowing the fuck out us, didn't you guys drops A-bombs on your own
troops, feed soldiers LSD and give radioactive cornflakes to brain-damaged
children ?
THAT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION
FLY THAT FLAG AND BE PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!
Jim
tke...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> Next time tou put a phone to your empty skull, try real hard to remember
> where it was invented
Why post (virtually) the same thing twice?
at...@yournet.com
at...@yournet.com
In article <32f6f236...@news.intrepid.net>, WebF...@intrepid.net (Tony) wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:20:57 GMT, mjan...@xs4all.nl (Firestarter) wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Oh, yeah? Jeez, I don't remember that great American invasion where
>>all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
>
> ...Yeah, because no other countries are stupid enough to push the issue THAT
> far. I mean, dude, if
>we wanted Erope, we could take it in like 45 minutes. BUT, guess what? We don't
> want it. We just
>want you all to admitt that you are dependant apon us.
>>
>>flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
>>(and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
>>to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
>>member of Monty Python for so long?)
>>
> .....ummm, whatever.
>
>>If America rules the world, why can't they make American football the
>>most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
>>Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
>>happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
>>Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
>>that's the only way they can make people watch it!
>
>yeah that is why our sports are so highly supported here, cuz they suck soooo
> bad....get a life
>
>>
>>Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
>>crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
>>really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
>>do with the fact that they don't like it?
>
>>
>>in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
>>burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
>
>model/prostitue...traveling whores to earn your respect. But our technology is
> superior, our level
>of patriotism is superior, and the only reason our country has any problems is
> because....we have
>millions of motherfuckers from everywhere else flooding us then leeching off of
> our government. I am
>not even going to argue about this, you are too childish to admitt to the
> truth.
>>
>>
>
Weird. He actually sounds like he chose the country where he would be born
and live in. I am an American who realizes that the USA is one of the most
fucked up countries in the world. Unfortunately I haven't had much of a
chance to explore other places. Please excuse my fellow countryman as being a
totally fucking idiot who likes to shoot his mouth off.
Igor Sprumatzikustjiolaviromia
On Fri, 31 Jan 97 13:08:14 GMT, at...@yournet.com lost self-control and said:
>Weird. He actually sounds like he chose the country where he would be born
>and live in. I am an American who realizes that the USA is one of the most
>fucked up countries in the world. Unfortunately I haven't had much of a
>chance to explore other places. Please excuse my fellow countryman as being
>a totally fucking idiot who likes to shoot his mouth off.
apologigies accepted. But you are crossposting like a mad man. people
on alt.wedding ain't going to like this.
igor
Sadena Meti
In article <5csqlg$f...@news.preferred.com>, on Fri, 31 Jan 97 13:08:14 GMT,
>> ...Yeah, because no other countries are stupid enough to push the issue
THAT
>> far. I mean, dude, if
>>we wanted Erope, we could take it in like 45 minutes. BUT, guess what? We
don't
>> want it. We just
>>want you all to admitt that you are dependant apon us.
Ah, you seem to have forgoten that 1. Several European countries have
nuclear arsenols. 2. They're not really dependand on us.
>>>If America rules the world, why can't they make American football the
>>>most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
Oh, you're asking to be flamecrashed
[Wisconsin Inhabitant]
>>>Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
>>>it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
>>>crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
>>>really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
>>>do with the fact that they don't like it?
>>
>> ....I can only speak for my self, but I think soccor is a pussy sport.
Agreed. Rugby, now there's something we Americans good do well to learn.
>>>Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
>>>in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
>>>burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
Friggin supremisist. I'll have you know that the US is only fractionally
lower than Europe.
>Please excuse my fellow countryman as being a
>totally fucking idiot who likes to shoot his mouth off.
That's 30% of Usenet's purpose ;^)
I mean, the US's got problems. So does everyone else.
The US has soul frying fools who are issolationist and think there is
nothing better than the US. Well, so does everyone ele, but not to the same
extent.
Sadena Meti
PS, nice spam spread. too bad only two of the groups are relevant.
sieve
--
Sadena Meti
emi...@pop.cs.wisc.edu
Trans In Ort Lor
Mr.
In article <32EFB4...@pacbell.net>, tke...@pacbell.net says...
> Next time tou put a phone to your empty skull, try real hard to remember
> where it was invented
>
homestead is a national historical site. THe telephone was invented in
Canada, Bell went to Boston after his ideas of the phone was conceived in
Brantford. As well he was a Canadian citizen many years before he was an
American citizen and landed after Scotland in Nova Scotia not the US.
Learn some objective history dumb dumb
Further Northern Telecom here in Canada (and fully Canadian) with 5
plants in the States produces the largest amount of switching devices for
telephone systems of anyone in the world. So before you spout off at the
mouth consider that you are most likely using Canadian technology to
relay your calls, data packets et cetera.
Don Eickstedt
Tony wrote:
> >Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
> >in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
> >burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
>
Well, our education level is high enough to earn the US the vast majority
of Nobel prizes. Actually, a significant number of US citizens are of
European blood. If you don't know this, maybe it is your education level
that needs examining. Most of you people speaking ill of America have never
been there. I, on the other hand, have been living in Europe for awhile and
can tell you that, for the most part, Europe is like a third-world country.
Also, fellow Americans, don't let these Europeans fool you. They speak
about ghettos in the US (they must watch a lot of old movies) but let me
tell you that Europe also has people begging in the streets. I have seen
them first hand. They will also try and tell you that their health care
system is better. Yes, it is (mostly) free, but what they don't tell you
is that the doctors and hospitals don't come close to meeting US standards.
When my wife and son need health care I send them back to the US. They also
don't tell you that you may have to wait a hell of a long time to receive
relatively simple surgical procedures. Also , 99.99% of Europeans like
Americans personally, it's only these losers here that are running their
mouths (probably on a computer with an Intel chip in it, munching on some
Kentucky Fried Chicken or a Big MAC).
MSC
"Don Eickstedt" <avi0...@pn.nettuno.it> wrote:
>Well, our education level is high enough to earn the US the vast majority
>of Nobel prizes. Actually, a significant number of US citizens are of
>European blood. If you don't know this, maybe it is your education level
>that needs examining. Most of you people speaking ill of America have never
>been there. I, on the other hand, have been living in Europe for awhile and
>can tell you that, for the most part, Europe is like a third-world country.
>Also, fellow Americans, don't let these Europeans fool you. They speak
>about ghettos in the US (they must watch a lot of old movies) but let me
>tell you that Europe also has people begging in the streets. I have seen
>them first hand. They will also try and tell you that their health care
>system is better. Yes, it is (mostly) free, but what they don't tell you
>is that the doctors and hospitals don't come close to meeting US standards.
>When my wife and son need health care I send them back to the US. They also
>don't tell you that you may have to wait a hell of a long time to receive
>relatively simple surgical procedures. Also , 99.99% of Europeans like
>Americans personally, it's only these losers here that are running their
>mouths (probably on a computer with an Intel chip in it, munching on some
>Kentucky Fried Chicken or a Big MAC).
Damn right. As an American living in Europe (Italy) like you I can't
help but agree with you. Some parts of Europe are really bad. Try
southern Italy, *there's* a third world for you. The place is
extremely poor and practically run by the Mafia, including most of the
government The northern part is better, but certanly not as good as
America. At least where I live (Milan) you can get most American
magazines and there's a McDonalds nearby. As for the beggars in the
street I see at least one every day. Health care is way below American
standards too.
MSC
joedog
I would like to say that I'm proud to be an American. However, Our country
is no better than any other. The United States has its own slew of
problems, just like every other country in the world. We all need to get
along with everyone else. If it wasn't for Europe, our asses wouldn't be
here. If it wasn't for U.S. Europe might not be here (Hitler). We all need
each other. So relax dudes and be cool!
at...@yournet.com wrote in article <5csqlg$f...@news.preferred.com>...
> In article <32f6f236...@news.intrepid.net>, WebF...@intrepid.net
(Tony) wrote:
> >On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:20:57 GMT, mjan...@xs4all.nl (Firestarter)
wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Oh, yeah? Jeez, I don't remember that great American invasion where
> >>all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
> >
> > ...Yeah, because no other countries are stupid enough to push the
issue THAT
> > far. I mean, dude, if
> >we wanted Erope, we could take it in like 45 minutes. BUT, guess what?
We don't
> > want it. We just
> >want you all to admitt that you are dependant apon us.
> >>
> >>Or do you mean all those crap movies your Hollywood people have been
> >>flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
> >>(and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
> >>to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
> >>member of Monty Python for so long?)
> >>
> > .....ummm, whatever.
> >
> >>If America rules the world, why can't they make American football the
> >>most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
> >>Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
> >>happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
> >>Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
> >>that's the only way they can make people watch it!
> >
> >yeah that is why our sports are so highly supported here, cuz they suck
soooo
> > bad....get a life
> >loser.
> >
> >>
> >>Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
> >>it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
> >>crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
> >>really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
> >>do with the fact that they don't like it?
> >
> > ....I can only speak for my self, but I think soccor is a pussy sport.
> >>
> >>Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
> >>in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
> >>burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
> >
> >......yeah right, sorry if our country does not produce enough art fags
and
> >model/prostitue...traveling whores to earn your respect. But our
technology is
> > superior, our level
> >of patriotism is superior, and the only reason our country has any
problems is
> > because....we have
> >millions of motherfuckers from everywhere else flooding us then leeching
off of
> > our government. I am
> >not even going to argue about this, you are too childish to admitt to
the
> > truth.
> >>
> >>Martijn
> >>
> >
> Weird. He actually sounds like he chose the country where he would be
born
> and live in. I am an American who realizes that the USA is one of the
most
> fucked up countries in the world. Unfortunately I haven't had much of a
> chance to explore other places. Please excuse my fellow countryman as
Dozier
On Fri, 31 Jan 97 13:08:14 GMT, at...@yournet.com wrote:
>Weird. He actually sounds like he chose the country where he would be born
>and live in. I am an American who realizes that the USA is one of the most
>fucked up countries in the world. Unfortunately I haven't had much of a
>chance to explore other places.
You all seem to forget 1 basic things regardless of how fucked up we
think one country or the other is, we all must work together to
survive.
Adding to that the Americans and many other countries have made great
technological, medical and other exchanges. All of which benefitted
the world.
Yeah, we've got a lot of money and power. We also have one of the
strongest militarys in the world. Yeah a shit load of countries suck
off the goverment tit. But, so do a lot of Americans. Yeah our
politicians may think they can save the world, maybe they can't.
ATLEAST WE'RE TRYING!!!!!! What really pisses me off is this bullshit
with the back U.N. dues. We've paid for most of the military actions
by the U.N. since 1990. we've spent billions. Ain't seen nobody else
couging up there share of the bill or manpower.
As for the guy who thinks America is one of the most F'ed up countries
in the world. OPEN YOUR EYES. It's worse other places. Go visit Cuba,
or go try and by beer at a convience store at 1 a.m. in Ontario,
Canada -- you can't! Yeah things are kinda screwed up but like it or
LEAVE!!!! Don't piss on my anscestors graves and those of my freinds
anscestors who've died to give us what we got.
So,
Please excuse my fellow countryman as being a
>>totally fucking idiot who likes to shoot his mouth off.
Dozier, Red Blooded American and Proud of it!
je...@caiw.nl
>In article <32f6f236...@news.intrepid.net> WebF...@intrepid.net (Tony) writes:
>>From: WebF...@intrepid.net (Tony)
>>Subject: Re: Dumb and Dumber Americans
>>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:58:17 GMT
>
>Hows this for American _Intelligence_????(oxymoron, ==hey! don't be callin' me
>no moron!, Moron!)
>
>
>Philski.
>
>*NOTE* delete *remove* from email address when returning mail.
>
>Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.
>If I'm lucky, this will cut down on my Spam quota!!!!!!
>
>http://www.spirit.net.au/~philski/
>PROMO DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY HOME PAGE (CANBERRA, AUSTRALIA)
Wasn't it America who totally fucked up their own army by going to
'Nam and Korea? Wasn't it America who wanted to drop A-Bombs
everywhere? Isn't it America who has a totally fucked up justice
system where one can win if he/she has enough money to bribe the jury?
Isn't it the States where thousands of peoples are dying because of
hunger?
On the other side, there is Europe. A strong, smart, cultural, rich
and historical Continent. In a few years (15 or so) Europe will be
united in to 1 federation and we will beat the economical crap out of
dumb countries like the States and Japan. Let the US play with their
nukes, what can they do with it? If they throw it on Europe, their
whole economy will be destroyed. If they throw it anywhere else,
everyone will get very angry and start a vendetta against the US.
Dream on, America (but try to gain some intelligence)
GoatEye
Firestarter wrote:
>
> >Bottom line is they're all pissed off cuz we pretty much rule the world.
> >
> >Fuck 'em.
>
> all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
>
> flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
> (and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
> to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
> member of Monty Python for so long?)
>
> most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
> Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
> happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
> Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
> that's the only way they can make people watch it!
well you do need an IQ greater than 6 to understand...
>
> Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
> it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
> crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
> really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
> do with the fact that they don't like it?
>
> Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
> in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
> burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
>
> Martijn
Yea, but I bet you would like live here... you all do.
John Doe
je...@caiw.nl wrote in article <32f575c8...@newsserv.caiw.nl>...
> On 29 Jan 1997 10:08:22 GMT, *REMOVE*phi...@spirit.com.au (philski)
> wrote:
>
> >In article <32f6f236...@news.intrepid.net> WebF...@intrepid.net
(Tony) writes:
> >>From: WebF...@intrepid.net (Tony)
> >>Subject: Re: Dumb and Dumber Americans
> >>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 06:58:17 GMT
> >
> >>On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:20:57 GMT, mjan...@xs4all.nl (Firestarter)
wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>Oh, yeah? Jeez, I don't remember that great American invasion where
> >>>all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
> >
> >> ...Yeah, because no other countries are stupid enough to push the
issue THAT
> >>far. I mean, dude, if
> >>we wanted Erope, we could take it in like 45 minutes. BUT, guess what?
We don't
> >>want it. We just
> >>want you all to admitt that you are dependant apon us.
> >>>
> >>>Or do you mean all those crap movies your Hollywood people have been
> >>>flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
> >>>(and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
> >>>to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
> >>>member of Monty Python for so long?)
> >>>
> >> .....ummm, whatever.
> >
> >>>If America rules the world, why can't they make American football the
> >>>most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
> >>>Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
> >>>happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
> >>>Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
> >>>that's the only way they can make people watch it!
> >
> >>yeah that is why our sports are so highly supported here, cuz they suck
soooo
> >>bad....get a life
> >>loser.
> >
> >>>
> >>>Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
> >>>it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
> >>>crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
> >>>really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
> >>>do with the fact that they don't like it?
> >
> >> ....I can only speak for my self, but I think soccor is a pussy sport.
> >>>
> >>>Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
> >>>in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
> >>>burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
> >
Yawn........ you're both pathetic. The world needs America, whether they
like it or not... the world also needs Europe. If only so we can feel
better about ourselves.
Get a life.
Barry O'Grady
js...@erols.com wrote:
:co...@fur.ermine.com (Darin Cowan) wrote:
:
:>: to reach educational golds for our children.. I'm not sure
:>: why maybe it is the misconseption that this is the land of milk and
:>: honey???
:
:>Judging from your writing skills, I would guess that you've never
:>acheived an educational gold... nor silver, nor bronze. You appear to be
:>quite illiterate. I find it fascinating that you can even use a computer.
:
:
:ashe...@osf1.gmu.edu (Andrew Shepherd) wrote:
:
:Why is it always assumed that just because somebody is a citizen of
:the U.S. that he/she is also causasian and a native speaker of English
:or that typos in e-mail constitute illiteracy? Poor proofreading
:skills maybe but illiteracy? Absurd!
I always assume that the citizens of the U.S. speak some sort of crude
language that is loosely based on English. It seems that the schools
there found it too hard to teach spelling so they decided to allow their
people to spell words any which way they want. Please don't degrade
the English language by pretending that it is the native language of
the U.S.
:I missed the beginning of this misposted thread, but I am curious why
:individuals from the U.K., Europe, and Australia constantly feel the
:need to knock people from the Americas (when you say 'Americans' I
:assume you mean all people in Canada, the U.S., Honduras, Brazil,
:Mexico, Peru, etc. since 'America' is not a country but a continent(s)
:according to the last map I looked at) in order to feel a little
:self-esteem about themselves, their culture and their nation.
I think the U.S. culture sucks and that is without referance to any other
culture.
:If you
:don't like the U.S. then don't live here, don't visit here, don't go
:to school here, don't buy products made here, don't use technology
:pioneered here, etc. It's as simple as that.
The culture sucks to the max but not everything about the U.S. is bad.
Why shouldn't we be critical of some aspects while making use of the
parts that we like?
:There is absolutely no need to attack people personally. Do I need to
:knock the Aussies because the ones I met in Taiwan and China were the
:biggest racist, simple-minded thugs I think I've ever encountered?
You can. If you have a legitimate grip with something Australian I say go
ahead and be critical.
:Nope. Do I need to knock all the Brits because of their colonial
:attrocities, the American Revolution, Cromwell (I'm of Irish descent)?
:Nope. None of it. So, grow up folks, and start posting this kind of
:stuff in the proper newsgroups.
I am Australian yet I don't agree with all that is Australian.
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>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
>I see all of you assholes are still playing...My country is better or
> we are smarter etc.. May I suggest that you all just take a nice
> long walk off a very short pier! Or at least start an > international organization of purebred assholes. Now... I want to see > just how many of you assholes will tag onto this thread.
>
Fen...@pacbell.net
Well, I've been to Europe, lived there nine years in fact. In Madrid,
you get one square of shitpaper in your stall. In France, it costs a
dollar to take shit in some robot outhouse. In Italy, you must shit
behind a tree.
I Tennessee, U.S.A. I can stop at a highway rest stop and take a shit,
then when I'm finished using copious amounts of paper on my ass, I can
sit in a rocking chair in front of a roaring fire, and read a book. So
by my value system, the U.S. is the best. Besides, can you think of any
other country where people sneak in? It's the shitpaper.
Grey Wolf
barryo*@*fastlink.com.au (Barry O'Grady) wrote:
>I always assume that the citizens of the U.S. speak some sort of crude
>language that is loosely based on English. It seems that the schools
>there found it too hard to teach spelling so they decided to allow their
>people to spell words any which way they want. Please don't degrade
>the English language by pretending that it is the native language of
>the U.S.
Sorry to inform you but it IS the native language of the US. In case
you've forgotten, spelling is based on pronunciation. Just because
some people prefer to engage in creative spelling, that doesn't make
it proper English. Not even proper US English. Most of them think
they're being "cool" by doing it but are really just showing up their
ignorance. Or perhaps you're confusing English with that Ebonics
bullshit?
>
>I think the U.S. culture sucks and that is without referance to any other
>culture.
Well, you're entitled to your opinion I suppose. Doesn't mean that I
have to agree with it though.
>The culture sucks to the max but not everything about the U.S. is bad.
>Why shouldn't we be critical of some aspects while making use of the
>parts that we like?
No reason. As long as you don't mind us being critical of the parts of
your culture that we don't like.
>
>:There is absolutely no need to attack people personally. Do I need to
>:knock the Aussies because the ones I met in Taiwan and China were the
>:biggest racist, simple-minded thugs I think I've ever encountered?
>
>You can. If you have a legitimate grip with something Australian I say go
>ahead and be critical.
No No No! Stereotyping is what keeps this shit going all the time.
It's also the cause of a BIG chunk of the world's problems.
DeZ
GoatEye wrote:
>
> Firestarter wrote:
> >
> > >Bottom line is they're all pissed off cuz we pretty much rule the world.
> > >
> > >Fuck 'em.
> >
> > all the countries in the world were conquered by your military?
> >
> > flogging over here, well I have to admit that poor taste is universal
> > (and I also have to admit that the best director in the world happens
> > to be American, ie Terry Gilliam, but could it be because he was a
> > member of Monty Python for so long?)
> >
> > most popular sport in the world? Maybe because it's so DEAD BORING?
> > Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion does
> > happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
> > Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint, since
> > that's the only way they can make people watch it!
>
> >
> > it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
> > crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
> > really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
> > do with the fact that they don't like it?
> >
> > in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
> > burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
> >
> Yea, but I bet you would like live here... you all do.
What a fuck has this in this NG To do?
Andrew/
In article <32F596...@pacbell.net> Fen...@pacbell.net writes:
> In Tennessee, U.S.A. I can stop at a highway rest stop and take a shit,
> then when I'm finished using copious amounts of paper on my ass, I can
> sit in a rocking chair in front of a roaring fire, and read a book.
Those long winter evenings must just fly by.......
Andrew/
'You're a Jerk, Dent'
Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged
Richard Hertz
Martin Kjellstrand <mart...@oc.chalmers.se> wrote in article
<martinkj-030...@neon.oc.chalmers.se>...
> In article <32F596...@pacbell.net>, Fen...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> > [snip] In Italy, you must shit
> > behind a tree.
>
> Can't say much about Spain, as I haven't been there a lot, but where in
> France and Italy did you say you had been? Prisons don't count, really.
There are trees in Italian prisons??? WOW!
Richard Hertz
Too silly - stop, stop! <g...@away.com> wrote in article
<5cvb87$o...@news1.mnsinc.com>...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> veg...@grove.ufl.edu (Ground Zero) whistled a happy tune like:
>
> |>On 29 Jan 1997 10:08:22 GMT, *REMOVE*phi...@spirit.com.au (philski)
> |>wrote:
>
> |>Your right maybe we are less educated. If we were a little smarter we
> |>would have nuked you unappreciative ass-packin, pillow-biting,
> |>butt-pirate motherf***s a long time ago.
>
> |>Ch**t we practically do rule the world. What the f*** is going to
> |>stop us from blowing the crap out of you......your so called superior
> |>intelligence?
>
> Pfft.... I think you just proved his POINT and demonstrated your
> intelligence (grin!)
Yep. Right from the first word! What a shame.
Richard Hertz
usmale <usm...@bigfoot.com> wrote in article <32F517...@bigfoot.com>...
(OK, I'll play) Uh... fuck you?
Richard Hertz
joedog <joe...@tusc.net> wrote in article
<01bc0fd3$c8b2ac00$2fb8...@joedogtusc.net.205.231.184.4>...
> I would like to say that I'm proud to be an American. However, Our
country
> is no better than any other.
You have GOT to be kidding!!! ANY other???
> The United States has its own slew of
> problems, just like every other country in the world. We all need to get
> along with everyone else.
Agreed. But our problems may not be as bad as some found in other
countries. For example, it's rare for people in the U. S. to die from a
simple flu. But it happens commonly in less developed countries (just one
example).
[snip]
> at...@yournet.com wrote in article <5csqlg$f...@news.preferred.com>...
> > In article <32f6f236...@news.intrepid.net>, WebF...@intrepid.net
> (Tony) wrote:
> > >On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:20:57 GMT, mjan...@xs4all.nl (Firestarter)
[Canadian AND American drivel snipped]
> > >we wanted Erope, we could take it in like 45 minutes. BUT, guess what?
We don't
> > > want it. We just want you all to admitt that you are dependant apon
us.
Please don't argue for us Americans... you're making us look stoopid, uh,
stupid.
[Canadian drivel snipped]
> > >>Perhaps an item on General Squarzcopf's agenda, when the invasion
does
> > >>happen, forcing all those 'foreign' people to watch Am. Football,
> > >>Baseball and all those other crap sports you prefer at gunpoint,
since
I don't prefer any sport at gunpoint.
[more snippage]
> > > ....get a life
> > >loser.
That was going to MY next line!
[sport drivel snipped]
> > >>Of course I don't expect you to grasp this, since the education level
> > >>in your country is so bad that all college graduates can do is flip
> > >>burgers! Maybe a good infusion of European blood will help!
I'd really like to see the stats on this "fact."
> > >......yeah right, sorry if our country does not produce enough art
fags
> and
> > >model/prostitue...traveling whores to earn your respect. But our
> technology is
> > > superior, our level
> > >of patriotism is superior, and the only reason our country has any
> problems is
> > > because....we have
> > >millions of motherfuckers from everywhere else flooding us then
leeching
> off of
> > > our government. I am
> > >not even going to argue about this, you are too childish to admitt to
> the
> > > truth.
A very mature, well argued point!
> > Weird. He actually sounds like he chose the country where he would be
> born
> > and live in. I am an American who realizes that the USA is one of the
> most
> > fucked up countries in the world. Unfortunately I haven't had much of
a
> > chance to explore other places.
Have you ever considered trying to do something about it, rather than
leaving?
> Please excuse my fellow countryman as
> being a
> > totally fucking idiot who likes to shoot his mouth off.
There are lots of "totally" idiots throughout the world. More's the pity.
Rich
Richard Hertz
Barry O'Grady <barryo*@*fastlink.com.au > wrote in article
> I always assume that the citizens of the U.S. speak some sort of crude
> language that is loosely based on English. It seems that the schools
> there found it too hard to teach spelling so they decided to allow their
> people to spell words any which way they want.
[snip
> I think the U.S. culture sucks and that is without referance to any other
> culture.
Referance?
> You can. If you have a legitimate grip with something Australian I say go
> ahead and be critical.
A legitimate grip with something Australian? Would that be like grabbing
something with a pair of Australian pliers?
It's difficult to understand what people mean when they spell words any
which way they want.
Richard Hertz
Barry O'Grady <barryo*@*fastlink.com.au > wrote in article
<32f4228f...@news.fastlink.com.au>...
> js...@erols.com wrote:
>
> :co...@fur.ermine.com (Darin Cowan) wrote:
> :
> :>: to reach educational golds for our children.. I'm not sure
> :>: why maybe it is the misconseption that this is the land of milk and
> :>: honey???
> :
> :>Judging from your writing skills, I would guess that you've never
> :>acheived an educational gold... nor silver, nor bronze. You appear to
be
> :>quite illiterate. I find it fascinating that you can even use a
computer.
I find it fascinating that you would WRITE a message to someone whom you
judge to be "quite illiterate."
Richard Hertz
Fen...@pacbell.net wrote in article <32F596...@pacbell.net>...
> Well, I've been to Europe, lived there nine years in fact. In Madrid,
> you get one square of shitpaper in your stall. In France, it costs a
> dollar to take shit in some robot outhouse. In Italy, you must shit
> behind a tree.
>
> I Tennessee, U.S.A. I can stop at a highway rest stop and take a shit,
> then when I'm finished using copious amounts of paper on my ass, I can
> sit in a rocking chair in front of a roaring fire, and read a book. So
> by my value system,
I love it! The shit, sit, and read system! Now this is good!
> the U.S. is the best. Besides, can you think of any
> other country where people sneak in? It's the shitpaper.
Richard
Doug
On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Andrew/ wrote:
> In article <32F596...@pacbell.net> Fen...@pacbell.net writes:
>
> > In Tennessee, U.S.A. I can stop at a highway rest stop and take a shit,
> > then when I'm finished using copious amounts of paper on my ass, I can
> > sit in a rocking chair in front of a roaring fire, and read a book.
>
HEY THAT SOUNDS LIKE TONS O' EVERLOVIN FUN BUT DOESN'T THAT ONE COPY OF
"FEILD N' STREAM" GET KINDA BORING AFTER AWHILE...
OH I KNOW THATS WHEN YOU PULL OUT YOUR (MALE STUFF 'O LIFE) STAINED COPY OF
"HANDGUNS FOR THE WEENIE HICK" AND PUD WRESTLE YOUR OWN SORRY LONELY ASS
TILL YOU... ANY WAY DIJA GET A LOOK AT THIS GUYS LIST OF NEWS GROUPS.
WOOOWEEE THAT'S A PRETTY FUCKED UP LIST YA GOT THERE HOSS
ALT.NUKE. EUROPE
THAT LOOKS LIKE HEAVY READING THERE
AND ALT.NUKE.AMERICA C'MON PODUNK MAKE PUP YOUR ONE CELLED BRAIN AND PICK
A SIDE...
HOW OLD ARE YOU THAT YOU NEE A ROARING FIRE TO BE COMFY. THATS GRAMPA
SIMPSON BEHAVOIR.
YOU SUCK BUDDY BOY
doooo d'dooo d'd'd'doooo d'dooood'dit
doug funnie
p.s. loser, i hope your pals don't find your perry coumo records, they
might lynch ya.
Doug
On 3 Feb 1997, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > >I see all of you assholes are still playing...My country is better or
> > > we are smarter etc.. May I suggest that you all just take a nice
> > > long walk off a very short pier! Or at least start an
> > > international organization of purebred assholes. Now... I want to see
> > > just how many of you assholes will tag onto this thread.
>
> (OK, I'll play) Uh... fuck you?
>
>
guess what for just waisting our time AND paitence
you win for your very own......drums please(don't give a shit if they're
canadian drums or belgian drums, american drums or fucking little pete's
everlovin butt bongos) you mister loser dude that noone gives a crap
about wins the...NO PRIZE
THIS ENTITLES YOU TO TEN FREE SECONDS OF REDNECK OR SHITFACED BEHAVIOR
THE ONLY PROBLEM IS.... ARE YOU SMART ENOUGH TO SHUT THE FUCK UP FOR TEN
MINUETS TO USE IT????????
YEAHYEAHYEAH
dooo d'doooo d'd'd'dooooo d'doooo d'dit
Doug Funnie
r...@inetworld.net
On Sat, 01 Feb 1997 19:46:27 -0700, GoatEye <as...@slkd.com> wrote:
>Firestarter wrote:
>> Last time I checked proper football (or soccer as you prefer to call
>> it) was still king of sport. Could perhaps the fact that Americans are
>> crap at this sport (at least in the last two World Cups, which are
>> really globally, unlike your 'World' Series Baseball) have anything to
>> do with the fact that they don't like it?
More American kids play soccer than most any sport at this point.
Americans just don't care that much for it as a spectator sport
because the ridiculous rules, in particular the "off-sides" rule, make
it very low scoring and not very interesting. However, most of the
professional soccer teams in this country did far better in attendance
this year than expected.
As for baseball, it is in fact the "world series" because nobody else
can come close to us. However, Major League Baseball is seriously
considering some sort of World Cup of Baseball soon after the turn of
the century. It's played in enough countries now to make that a
reality; although Europe probably wouldn't be represented since
Europeans eye-extremity coordination seems to be only related to their
eyes and their feet rather than their eyes and their hands. But,
between the U.S., Australia, Canada, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Cuba and
the other Latin nations, we should be able to put together a decent
show.
=Bob
Rob Reder
Oh great now you've done it this could go on for ever. Your both assholes
and my country is better than yours Na Na NaNa Na. :o)
BTW FU2 <G>
Richard Hertz <no....@the.spamless .place> wrote in article
<01bc1226$41047680$e92637a6@kevin>...
>
>
> usmale <usm...@bigfoot.com> wrote in article
<32F517...@bigfoot.com>...
> > >
> > > x-no-archive: yes
> > >
Rob Wienhard
Rob Reder <rre...@awinc.com> wrote in article
<01bc1283$25787bc0$LocalHost@robertre>...
> Oh great now you've done it this could go on for ever. Your both assholes
I believe he meant to say that YOU'RE both assholes. I guess the asshole
should learn to spell!
> and my country is better than yours Na Na NaNa Na. :o)
> BTW FU2 <G>
<cut>
dmoore
dmoore
>
> Barry O'Grady <barryo*@*fastlink.com.au > wrote in article
>
> Barry O'Grady <barryo*@*fastlink.com.au > wrote in article
Epicene Wildeblood
In article <32EFB3...@pacbell.net>, tke...@pacbell.net writes
>The next time you use the internet or a telephone, remember where it came
>from.
>signed,
>tired of ignorance
Yeah - why not:
Telephone - British Invention
Computer - British Invention
Duh!
--
Epicene Wildeblood
Richard Hertz
dmoore <DMo...@Netrax.net> wrote in article <32F7BE...@Netrax.net>...
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
[snip]
> > Yep. Right from the first word! What a shame.IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE
U.S. TOUGH SHIT
And if I do like the U.S.?
|WaCkeD|
Richard Hertz <no....@the.spamless .place> wrote in article
<01bc1224$96040620$e92637a6@kevin>...
Will you people just shut the fuck up. No wonder why we have wars. Just
look at what your all typing. What a load of CROC.
Europeans - grow up Americans- grow up even more.
PeeJaye
>> > Yep. Right from the first word! What a shame.IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE
>U.S. TOUGH SHIT
>
>And if I do like the U.S.?
Hmmmm, tougher shit? :)
Regards,
PeeJaye
(who is dually American and British)
Ben Idoine
> >language that is loosely based on English. It seems that the schools
> >there found it too hard to teach spelling so they decided to allow their
> >the English language by pretending that it is the native language of
> >the U.S.
>
> Sorry to inform you but it IS the native language of the US. In case
> you've forgotten, spelling is based on pronunciation. Just because
> some people prefer to engage in creative spelling, that doesn't make
> it proper English. Not even proper US English. Most of them think
> they're being "cool" by doing it but are really just showing up their
> ignorance. Or perhaps you're confusing English with that Ebonics
> bullshit?
Firstly, spelling.. especially in the English language is NOT based upon
pronunciation.. but it evolved from Latin and other influencial
languages in which pronunciation of words is not based upon the spelling
of the word.
> >The culture sucks to the max but not everything about the U.S. is bad.
> >Why shouldn't we be critical of some aspects while making use of the
> >parts that we like?
American culture is the bastardisation of all the sub cultures that went
into making the nation.. so in itself it is not a "culture".
> >:There is absolutely no need to attack people personally.
Wasn't it the American's in the Gulf war that shot more Brits than Iraq?
Who was it that said that if America wanted to take Europe they'd do it
in 45 minutes?.. you need your head seeing to. America would just get
heavy handed.. as ever and probably end up shooting themselves.
Great military... I'm sure
Ed
This thread should be named "How to Kill News Groups I don't like."
Please note, when you respond to these SPAM type post your message is
posted to ALL the news groups in the original message. You didn't know
you were hanging out in alt.pedophile now did you? Someone goes to your
favorite group, posts a sick message guaranteed to get a response, SPAMs
it to all groups they hate... YOU endlessly do their dirty work for
them! Most servers limit the space for each group, so it is full of I
hate you, raped your child, your stupid, your country sucks.
Ed
Ed
Kevin Clements
PeeJaye <je...@idiscover.net> wrote in article
<32f8b958...@news.idiscover.co.uk>...
Does that make you Amerish or Britican?
Kevin
Alan Culshaw
Ben Idoine <b...@cyberado.com> wrote in article
<32F8CD...@cyberado.com>...
Who gives a shit. I spell my way you spell your way. So what. Personally
I'm glad I'm Australian. I think everyone is dumb. Carefull Australians
are supposed to be real dummos.. Let me tell you every country and every
culture has dummies. I know I used to work for IBM. My problem is that I am
a misunderstood genius. Ask my wife she will tell you. Can we stop this
crap now
PeeJaye
>> Regards,
>> PeeJaye
>> (who is dually American and British)
>
>Does that make you Amerish or Britican?
Kevin,
That would make me both :) I was born American (and therefore always
will be) and I am now a citizen of the US. Interestingly enough
(though maybe not to anyone else) is that I will be considered Irish
as well after a few years, and will be eligible for an American,
British and Irish passports.......
Regards,
PeeJaye
Olavi Jaggo
just testing, sorry
Hiawatha
In article <32F8CD...@cyberado.com>, Ben Idoine <b...@cyberado.com>
writes
Whoever you are, I can say with all honesty as an English Soldier that
the American Army is one of the most effective and well equipped armies
in the world and to argue with that is indicative of ignorance.
--
Admin
Turnpike evaluation. For information, see http://www.turnpike.com/
Shazam!!!
Hiawatha <Hiaw...@zen-men.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<bYgYPCAW...@zen-men.demon.co.uk>...
I have to agree. If there is one thing that the U.S.A. can boast about,
it's their military.
The whole world could stand to take a few lessons from them in this area.
But the American military would be much more effective if they would
practice
a little more peace keeping, and a little less war.
Alexander Casti
Spoken like the good-natured, peace-lovin' European that we all know
so well from this century, right?
AC
Stan Collins
Um....hello....Kettle? This is pot. You're black....
AMERICANS mess with the Enligh language? What about Shakespeare? the
man spelled his OWN NAME two different ways! Read som e John Locke or
some Thomas Hobbes and you'll find how spelling comes to be.... that is
to say, people choose to spell a word any way they want and whetever
spelling prevails becomes the spelling.
P.S. the U.S. military is the most efficient instrument for destruction
currently occupying our planet earth. I would attemmpt to demonstrate
it, but mankind could waste alot of time proving the obvious. Also, I
simply don't credit you the wherewithal to semicompetantly debate this
point.
Stan Collins
Sean Piper
I agree that the American army is the "most effective" army in the world.
As a Canadian ex-soldier, with many American Army friends, it is my opinion
that they are not the best trained army. Don't get me wrong. The American
army fights well and efficiently as a large overwhelming group. But, when
taken individual by individual, the training is somewhat lacking.
As for being the best equipped. Yeah. I can see that. They also have more
money to spread around too, don't forget.
Hiawatha <Hiaw...@zen-men.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
usmale
> I'm glad I'm Australian. I think everyone is dumb. Carefull Australians
> are supposed to be real dummos.. Let me tell you every country and every
> culture has dummies. I know I used to work for IBM. My problem is that I am
> a misunderstood genius. Ask my wife she will tell you. Can we stop this
> crap now
usmale wrote:
> > When individuals or a group for that matter call attention to > > errors and try to put you down for any reason, know they only do so > > because they themselves need to down others to make themselves feel > > better about their own worthless retched selves.
> >
Bloop
your pipe and smoke it fucko.
Rob
Kiss my ass nitpicker, maybe you should learn the difference between a
GRAMMATICAL error and a
SPELLING error. I guess it go'es to show you that nobodys perfect evan you.
Next time you go looking to flame someone make sure you know what YOUR
talking about.
P.S.> FUCK YOU
Rob Wienhard <wien...@nowhere.edu> wrote in article
<01bc12c0$2255cb40$252637a6@kevin>...
Bill Mesley
In article <32EFB4...@pacbell.net>, tke...@pacbell.net writes
>Next time tou put a phone to your empty skull, try real hard to remember
>where it was invented
Most swear words seem to come from the UK, so without us English, how
could you Americans/Canadians/Russians/Klingons be rude and offensive?
For example:
Fuck - Anglo-Saxon word.
Bell-end - from Alexander Graham Bell.
Bollocks - unquestionably English.
Arse - English too, but you Americans change it to ASS, which is a kind
of horse like creature.
Piss - well, this sounds like what it is. If you translate piss into any
other language, it doesn't sound like what it is.
Prick - same as above, really.
Shit - see Shit List elsewhere in this newsgroup.
Cunt - now, this one I'm not sure about.
--
Bill
Southern England
Micah May
>>
>> Wasn't it the American's in the Gulf war that shot more Brits than Iraq?
>> Who was it that said that if America wanted to take Europe they'd do it
>> in 45 minutes?.. you need your head seeing to. America would just get
>> heavy handed.. as ever and probably end up shooting themselves.
>>
>> Great military... I'm sure
The U.S. would easily take over Europe. Hell we could have done it 50
some years ago when we didn't even have a military barely. We saved
your European Asses from the Germans while we simultaneously kicked
the shit out of the Japanese. So don't come in here poppin off smack
about how your country is better than the U.S. because if it wasn't
four our generosity you would be Herr Hitler's slaves or second class
citizens. You should be bowing down to us in Gratitude and hoping we
don't lose our temper.
Micah May
Ben Idoine
Stan Collins wrote:
> Um....hello....Kettle? This is pot. You're black....
> AMERICANS mess with the Enligh language? What about Shakespeare? the
> man spelled his OWN NAME two different ways! Read som e John Locke or
> some Thomas Hobbes and you'll find how spelling comes to be.... that is
> to say, people choose to spell a word any way they want and whetever
> spelling prevails becomes the spelling.
> P.S. the U.S. military is the most efficient instrument for destruction
> currently occupying our planet earth. I would attemmpt to demonstrate
> it, but mankind could waste alot of time proving the obvious. Also, I
> simply don't credit you the wherewithal to semicompetantly debate this
> point.
>
> Stan Collins
Well, what can I say?.. other than that Americans must really run purely
on testosterone. How is it that you think that a measurement of the
ability to destroy life is a measurement of your masculinity? I would
think that more respect is gained in the ability to resolve an argument
by passive means rather than being the first to resort to violent
methods.
I am not someone who believes in "evolution", but I do believe in
evolution of cultures, and it seems that you have not come out of the
age wooden clubs and animal skins.
Also, to say that America has the most efficient military is far from
true. Indeed America probably has the largest military, but if they were
ever posed with an equally sized and equally armed adversary I'm sure it
wouldn't be so cut and dry. There are nations in the world who would
more readily fight for a cause that wasn't just generated in the name of
winning elections.
Granted, Margeret Thatcher started the Falklands war in a weak attempt
to gain votes through national pride, but it seems America is more than
doing its fair share of that.
I admit that America has the means to win a global sized war, but to use
such methods would be like "cuttin your nose off to spite your face" as
it would have very consequential global side effects that would no doubt
also effect America. To use such a threat I believe shows a great level
of irresponsibility. Why do you feel the need to boast the ability to
lower yourself to the level of primates? Survival of the fittest???
Oh, and finally, concerning the English language, and about Shakespeare.
Shakespear was a poet, and a comic. I don't think that is such a good
example to use as to the development of our language. Also, names do not
comform to the same rules as for the spelling of words. In the
Americanised "version" of English, words were altered over time, partly
by semi-illiterates, and partly by people who wanted, basicly, to do
things their own way. Like many of the seemingly strange accents across
America where certain phoenetic sounds are over emphasised to an almost
humerous degree. The "Noo Yoyk" accents springs readily to mind.
I also have to ask under what authority you accuse me of being "the pot"
as I personally have not altered my language from how it was taught, nor
have I tried to create my own pronunciations.
I await your eager over-zealous further criticisms.
Ben Idoine
Andrew/
In article <dj4heBAU...@demon.co.uk>
bi...@qmsstep.demon.co.uk "Bill Mesley" writes:
> In article <32EFB4...@pacbell.net>, tke...@pacbell.net writes
>
> >Next time tou put a phone to your empty skull, try real hard to remember
> >where it was invented
>
> Most swear words seem to come from the UK, so without us English, how
> could you Americans/Canadians/Russians/Klingons be rude and offensive?
> For example:
>
> Bell-end - from Alexander Graham Bell.
Somehow, I can just picture the dude putting a Bell-end to his
skull.....
Andrew/
'You're a Jerk, Dent'
Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged
Magus
Micah May wrote:
> The U.S. would easily take over Europe. Hell we could have done it 50
> some years ago when we didn't even have a military barely.
The last time America "barely" had an army was the late 1700's. Since
then we've been a military nation. You do realize that most of our
states were originally conquered territory, right?
> We saved
> your European Asses from the Germans while we simultaneously kicked
> the shit out of the Japanese.
Actually, we saved our own asses. If you'll rememeber, America had an
isolationist policy for almost three years. America also spent those
years denying reports of the German Holocaust. We only stepped in after
Japan decided to attack us. We had no intentions of saving anyone.
> So don't come in here poppin off smack
> about how your country is better than the U.S. because if it wasn't
> four our generosity
First of all, the U.S. wasn't being generous, it was getting revenge.
Secondly, we won because we lived halfway around the world. Had America
been in Europe, Hitler could have just as easily invaded us. As to your
claims that America would win in a war against Eurasia, you forget that
both sides have an enormous stockpile of nuclear, chemical, and
biological weapons. No one would win...we would both simply die.
> you would be Herr Hitler's slaves or second class
> citizens. You should be bowing down to us in Gratitude and hoping we
> don't lose our temper.
Are you suggesting that America "liberated" Europe so they could bow
down to and live in fear of us? That would make us better than
Hitler...how?
> Micah May
That wasn't a very good sex story, Micah. i honestly think you could
do much better than that. For a much better example of what a sex story
should be like, try "First Night" by me, or maybe "Learning Curve,"
again by me. It's somewhere in here.
first...@yale.edu
American culture is the bastardisation of all the sub cultures that
went
> into making the nation.. so in itself it is not a "culture".
>
so you're saying that the U.S. has NO culture? that's a pretty bold
statement. and just because people came to this country for one reason
or another and gave up parts of their home culture only to assume parts
of another doesn't mean that their culture has been "bastardized," as
you so eloquently put it, it only means that they are contributing to a
culture that is ever-changing. personally, i think it's nice here.
first...@yale.edu
Firstly, spelling.. especially in the English language is NOT based upon
> >pronunciation.. but it evolved from Latin and other influencial
> >languages in which pronunciation of words is not based upon the spelling
> >of the word.
i have one thing to say about this...
pronunciation in latin is almost purely based on spelling. if you know
how to pronounce the letters, you know how to pronounce the word. no
silent letters, no tricks. i don't know what you're talking about.
however, english is another story. but latin....
Ben Idoine
> If it weren't for the U.S., you wouldn't have the internet. Put that in
> your pipe and smoke it fucko.
I can see you're highly literate, so I won't bore you with seemingly
intelligent responses, other than that America had nothing to do with
creating the internet. It was divised by a couple of French guys at CERN
(strangely enough, in France) and developed from there. America no
doubt, (like everything else they claim to have rights to), took it,
bastardised it, and in the end used it as a means to distribute
pornography.
Same old story. Take a revolutionary idea and abuse it.
"Alex Silver"
Stan Collins wrote:
>
> Ben Idoine wrote:
> >
> > Grey Wolf wrote:
> > >
> > > barryo*@*fastlink.com.au (Barry O'Grady) wrote:
> > >
> > > >I always assume that the citizens of the U.S. speak some sort of crude
> > > >language that is loosely based on English. It seems that the schools
> > > >there found it too hard to teach spelling so they decided to allow their
> > > >people to spell words any which way they want. Please don't degrade
> > > >the English language by pretending that it is the native language of
> > > >the U.S.
> > >
> > > Sorry to inform you but it IS the native language of the US. In case
> > > you've forgotten, spelling is based on pronunciation. Just because
> > > some people prefer to engage in creative spelling, that doesn't make
> > > it proper English. Not even proper US English. Most of them think
> > > they're being "cool" by doing it but are really just showing up their
> > > ignorance. Or perhaps you're confusing English with that Ebonics
> > > bullshit?
> >
> > pronunciation.. but it evolved from Latin and other influencial
> > languages in which pronunciation of words is not based upon the spelling
> > of the word.
> >
> > > >Why shouldn't we be critical of some aspects while making use of the
> > > >parts that we like?
> >
> > into making the nation.. so in itself it is not a "culture".
> >
> >
> > Who was it that said that if America wanted to take Europe they'd do it
> > in 45 minutes?.. you need your head seeing to. America would just get
> > heavy handed.. as ever and probably end up shooting themselves.
> >
> > Great military... I'm sure
>
> AMERICANS mess with the Enligh language? What about Shakespeare? the
> man spelled his OWN NAME two different ways! Read som e John Locke or
> some Thomas Hobbes and you'll find how spelling comes to be.... that is
> to say, people choose to spell a word any way they want and whetever
> spelling prevails becomes the spelling.
> P.S. the U.S. military is the most efficient instrument for destruction
> currently occupying our planet earth. I would attemmpt to demonstrate
> it, but mankind could waste alot of time proving the obvious. Also, I
> simply don't credit you the wherewithal to semicompetantly debate this
> point.
>
Actually, the language that Americans speak, is not one language, but is
composed or parts from several languages. Therefore it allows people
(who are frod diverse backgrounds) to communicate with each other.
Ben Idoine
Stan Collins wrote:
> The point is, it's not about which spellings and
> pronounciations are 'pure' or 'right' --as if those existed (and if you
> judge what the Queen speaks to be the standard, this makes you only an
> elitist, but if you judge Cockney or Aussie as the standard, this makes
> you a hypocrite of the worst kind.)-- it's about who will win. And
> believe me brother, barring an unforseen and highly improbabl;e change,
> we'll win. We have the communications technology, the economy, the
> highest number of thinkers. Now, this doesn't mean that American
> accents will prevail in Canberra or Suffolk, but it does mean that the
> 'neutral' accent of English will come to be thought of as the technical
> English of the news broadcasters, that emanates largely from the Western
> part of the United States. Al-oo-min-um will defeat al-you-min-i-um.
> "Color" will defeat "colour" in international situations.
>
> Stan Collins
"We'll win".. are you yourself going to be one of the influencial few
that "win" the next major war?.. I perceive you to be one of these
egotists who gains personal gain fom their selected football team's
victories, and then uses terms like "we played a good game" in the local
bar afterwards.
Fact is that anyone who gains personal satisfaction from their nations
ability to "kick ass", as I'm sure you would so eloquently put it,
obviously needs a little more variety in their day to day life. Try
getting personal gain from something that you can say you achieved on
your own merit, and I will pay you a little more respect than I do now.
Let it be noted that the greatest men ever have been the peace makers,
or those who promote peace...not those like your Mr.Schwarze-Kopf who
you all give medals for his triumpth in murdering people in a country
you'll never have to look at, except for on glorified TV news broadcast
which make the great American way out to be the thing that the whole
world should live by. I'd much rather see those medals around the neck
of someone who deserved them. There are so many people everyday that do
things out of kindness or selflessness, yet it seems the "Testosterone
nation" would rather promote an image of war-acceptence to an already
unbalanced society.
Fact is that America is THE most disjointed nation in the world. You
have the lowest racial harmony. You have a tolence of fire arms. You
believe every man has a right to kill in order to promote their way.
Look at more modern history and you'll see far more examples in America
of racial intollerance on a domestic level than in any other country.
Tell me the KKK doesn't still exist... if you can.
Also, don't get too excited about your communications technology. A lot
of it was actually stolen from the East and Europe. It may also be
useful for you to note that the most intelligent people in history have
actually come from Europe... Einstein, Socrates to name but two.
I might also add there that your economy doesn't thrive on it's own. Let
me draw you to the underlying reason behind the Gulf war, in which
America was oh so gallant. It was certainly not due to the fact that
Iraq was shamelessly threatening it's neighbouring countries!
Concerning our dialect in Britain, I do not consider (nor do I recall
saying so) Cockney or Aussie(?) to be a standard dialect, and far more
so the Queen's dialect. What is it with the American obsession with our
monarchy in any case? You seem to use them as a means of insult, yet in
fact it is widely thought that you wish you had a monarchy of sorts as
it would give you some kind of heritage.
Touché, mon ami.
Ben Idoine
tbel...@texas.net
>It may also be useful for you to note that the most intelligent people
>in history have actually come from Europe... Einstein, Socrates to name
>but two.
>Fact is that America is THE most disjointed nation in the world.
Don't the majority of Americans descend from Europe? So don't the
majority of Americans come from Europe. So does that makes us dumb and
disjointed or intelligent?
Also I have a real question not rhetorical. Where did Einstein do most
of his work?...I have a feeling that I know the answer to this question.
l8rz (example of a stupid use of a non-word).
Docktor Reality
>Let me draw you to the underlying reason behind the Gulf war, in which
>America was oh so gallant. It was certainly not due to the fact that
>Iraq was shamelessly threatening it's neighbouring countries!
>Ben Idoine
And let's not forget the gulf war illness. How the US government and
miltary treating very, very ill troops like their were whining old
ladies. The gulf war was a distaer not only for the 400,000 Iraq's
murdered by CNN/Wall Street/GOP gang but for the average American too.
We lost any respect we had in the world and behaved like a nation of
sick animals.
I stood on the corner of Broadway and 14th street to watch the
"victorious parade" and felt like I was living in a George Orwell novel.
I was
Docktor Reality
Docktor Reality
fac2x
> Cunt - now, this one I'm not sure about.
> --
I think that's a sign that you need to get out more.
> Bill
> Southern England
fac2x
> The "Noo Yoyk" accents springs readily to mind.
>
Hey, at least get it right. It's "Neu Yawhk". The "oyk" is mainly a
Brooklyn dialect, used by yout's in woyds like "boyd", "woym", and
"goyl". You're murdering the intonation!
Of course, when a 'Merkin tries to distinguish between a public-school
and a Cockney accent, the results are often woyse.
Joe
In article <32FB63...@cyberado.com>, b...@cyberado.com says...
>
>Oh, and finally, concerning the English language, and about Shakespeare.
>Shakespear was a poet, and a comic. I don't think that is such a good
>example to use as to the development of our language. Also, names do not
>comform to the same rules as for the spelling of words. In the
>Americanised "version" of English, words were altered over time, partly
>by semi-illiterates, and partly by people who wanted, basicly, to do
>things their own way. Like many of the seemingly strange accents across
>America where certain phoenetic sounds are over emphasised to an almost
>humerous degree. The "Noo Yoyk" accents springs readily to mind.
>
>I also have to ask under what authority you accuse me of being "the pot"
>as I personally have not altered my language from how it was taught, nor
>have I tried to create my own pronunciations.
>
>I await your eager over-zealous further criticisms.
>
>Ben Idoine
The "Americanisations" of the English language weren't done by
semi-illiterates, but mostly, as you say, by people who do things their own
way. I believe the major culprit was Noah Webster, one of the U.S.'s first
dictionary publishers. He was a crusader for simplified and "logical"
spelling. He and his dictionary are the reasons we don't put the letter "u" in
"humor," "color," "favor," etc and use the letter "z" where citizens of other
English-speaking nations would use the letter "s." A good example is the word
"Americanised" which we would spell "Americanize."
Regarding the many seemingly strange accents, I converse via e-mail on a daily
basis with a newspaper reporter in London. He's a native of Yorkshire, and he
has provided me with numerous examples of Yorkshire dialect where he has tried
to write the words as they are pronounced, and they are as incomprehensible as
anything this Texan has ever heard from those Yankee states up north (such as
Noo Yoyk).
Overall, I think the differences between our two versions of English are much
smaller than the contenders in this spat care to admit.
Regards,
Joe Henderson
Tosspot
On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:06:16 GMT, veg...@grove.ufl.edu (Ground Zero)
wrote:
>On 29 Jan 1997 10:08:22 GMT, *REMOVE*phi...@spirit.com.au (philski)
>wrote:
>
>Your right maybe we are less educated.
Judging from that grammer, I'd say you're right
> If we were a little smarter we
>would have nuked you unappreciative ass-packin, pillow-biting,
>butt-pirate motherfuckers a long time ago.
Unappreciative of what, you ignorant arse ? You,ve contributed
slightly less than fuck-all (of any use)
>Christ we practically do rule the world. What the fuck is going to
>stop us from blowing the crap out of you......your so called superior
>intelligence?
If you're typical of your countrymen, less of the "so called" eh?
P.S
Are you people unable to participate in any form of conversation
without using the words Goddam, Motherfucker or Nuke
(Also try not to mention ruling the world, bombing the shit out of
"commies"........ blah blah blah,)
Oh dear, doesn't leave much, does it ?
Brittania
On Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:30:07 +0000, Jim <J...@Jimco.co.uk> wrote:
>tke...@pacbell.net wrote:
>>
>> Next time tou put a phone to your empty skull, try real hard to remember
>> where it was invented
>
> Why post (virtually) the same thing twice?
Why repost (virtually) it a third time ?
PuPPeTeer
Micah May wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Wasn't it the American's in the Gulf war that shot more Brits than Iraq?
> >> Who was it that said that if America wanted to take Europe they'd do it
> >> in 45 minutes?.. you need your head seeing to. America would just get
> >> heavy handed.. as ever and probably end up shooting themselves.
> >>
> >> Great military... I'm sure
>
> your European Asses from the Germans while we simultaneously kicked
> about how your country is better than the U.S. because if it wasn't
> citizens. You should be bowing down to us in Gratitude and hoping we
> don't lose our temper.
Yet another product of the Hollywood propoganda machine. Child, you have
been brainwashed. Instead of kicking the mental shit out of your fragile
mentality, I will leave you alone to walloy in the confusion your
government has instilled into your very being.
Kid, you wouldn't be able to survive outside of the USA. If you where
ever to walk the streets of a foriegn country, if you would ever open
your mouth, it would be pounded closed by the nearest 5yr old, being
unable to stand your preaching and total bullshit no longer.
Dan Victor
>
> 'You're a Jerk, Dent'
> Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged
>
WOOHOO!!! Hoorah for Adams!
Edward Robillard
jeff
tbel...@texas.net wrote:
I would like to add: Ever hear of Bill Gates?? He is American
right??? I would imagine that you have also heard of Windows in
Europe right? DOS??
Schlager
On Fri, 07 Feb 1997 17:44:45 -0500, Docktor Reality <d...@real.net>
wrote:
As a nation, there was a choice to be made-- either let a dictator
threaten, conquer, and kill nations and citizens around him, or stop
it using whatever force is necessary. I personally like the fact that
they used excessive force instead of too little(if it hadn't ended
quick, we might still be there today-- remind you of something?).
Iraq started a war, and people die in wars, even civilians. Let's not
ever forget that. IT IS A FACT.
Gussel Timer
Shazam!!! wrote:
> > Whoever you are, I can say with all honesty as an English Soldier that
> > the American Army is one of the most effective and well equipped armies
> > in the world and to argue with that is indicative of ignorance.
> I have to agree. If there is one thing that the U.S.A. can boast about,
> it's their military.
The USA has the most powerful military, but it doesn't have the best
soldiers. They are however, on par with Russia. World's best soldiers
(pound for pound toughnees and ability) are the Israelis. Sorry, my
American cousins, but it's true. :)
Thomas Speer
Docktor Reality wrote:
>
> >Let me draw you to the underlying reason behind the Gulf war, in which
> >America was oh so gallant. It was certainly not due to the fact that
> >Iraq was shamelessly threatening it's neighbouring countries!
>
> >Ben Idoine
>
> And let's not forget the gulf war illness. How the US government and
> miltary treating very, very ill troops like their were whining old
> ladies. The gulf war was a distaer not only for the 400,000 Iraq's
> murdered by CNN/Wall Street/GOP gang but for the average American too.
> We lost any respect we had in the world and behaved like a nation of
> sick animals.
>
> I stood on the corner of Broadway and 14th street to watch the
> "victorious parade" and felt like I was living in a George Orwell novel.
>
> I was
>
> Docktor Reality
So go live in IRAQ you whining asshole! At least you can exist with an
apparently clear consciuos there since the US isuch a disapointment to
you!
--
Thomas Speer
(flyn...@jaxnet.com)
Barry O'Grady
Fen...@pacbell.net wrote:
:Well, I've been to Europe, lived there nine years in fact. In Madrid,
:you get one square of shitpaper in your stall. In France, it costs a
:dollar to take shit in some robot outhouse. In Italy, you must shit
:behind a tree.
:
:I Tennessee, U.S.A. I can stop at a highway rest stop and take a shit,
:then when I'm finished using copious amounts of paper on my ass, I can
:sit in a rocking chair in front of a roaring fire, and read a book. So
:by my value system, the U.S. is the best.
Only in the US would someone keep an ass in their loo.
:Besides, can you think of any
:other country where people sneak in? It's the shitpaper.
Australia?
We have real loos here too.
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On Fri, 07 Feb 1997 22:51:04 -0800, fac2x <f...@2x.2x> wrote:
>> The "Noo Yoyk" accents springs readily to mind.
>>
>
>Hey, at least get it right. It's "Neu Yawhk". The "oyk" is mainly a
>Brooklyn dialect, used by yout's in woyds like "boyd", "woym", and
>"goyl". You're murdering the intonation!
>
>Of course, when a 'Merkin tries to distinguish between a public-school
>and a Cockney accent, the results are often woyse.
I realised why Marecans think Canadians say "aboot." It's because
they all say "abiawt."
Dan Victor
Oh big smack. The guy who invented the system of Greenwich Mean Time
was Canadian. ....ever hear of Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Maurice
Richard........ hmm that's funny, they're all Canadian!
r...@inetworld.net
On Wed, 05 Feb 1997 18:12:33 +0000, Ben Idoine <b...@cyberado.com>
wrote:
>Grey Wolf wrote:
>>
>> barryo*@*fastlink.com.au (Barry O'Grady) wrote:
>>
>> >I always assume that the citizens of the U.S. speak some sort of crude
>> >language that is loosely based on English. It seems that the schools
>> >there found it too hard to teach spelling so they decided to allow their
>> >people to spell words any which way they want. Please don't degrade
>> >the English language by pretending that it is the native language of
>> >the U.S.
>>
>> Sorry to inform you but it IS the native language of the US. In case
>> you've forgotten, spelling is based on pronunciation. Just because
>> some people prefer to engage in creative spelling, that doesn't make
>> it proper English. Not even proper US English. Most of them think
>> they're being "cool" by doing it but are really just showing up their
>> ignorance. Or perhaps you're confusing English with that Ebonics
>> bullshit?
>
>Firstly, spelling.. especially in the English language is NOT based upon
>pronunciation.. but it evolved from Latin and other influencial
>languages in which pronunciation of words is not based upon the spelling
>of the word.
That's nice. SO WHAT?
>
>> >The culture sucks to the max but not everything about the U.S. is bad.
>> >Why shouldn't we be critical of some aspects while making use of the
>> >parts that we like?
>
>American culture is the bastardisation of all the sub cultures that went
>into making the nation.. so in itself it is not a "culture".
I see. Such as Celtic, Anglo-Saxon and Norman? Shit; take one look
at Britain today and you'd find the rich are generally Norman descent
while the poor are Anglo-Saxon and Celtic. Really does take some
gall, doesn't it?
>> >:There is absolutely no need to attack people personally.
>
>Wasn't it the American's in the Gulf war that shot more Brits than Iraq?
Was it? Guess they were just getting even for what the Brits did to
our good and true neighbors, the Canadians, at Dieppe.
>Who was it that said that if America wanted to take Europe they'd do it
>in 45 minutes?.. you need your head seeing to. America would just get
>heavy handed.. as ever and probably end up shooting themselves.
Really bothers you that the sun never sets on the AMERICAN EMPIRE now,
doesn't it?
>
>Great military... I'm sure
Something others were once able to say about the Brits.
=Bob
Docktor Reality
>Iraq started a war
>ste...@students.uiuc.edu
Actually the British and Americans did 50 years ago when they removed
Iraq's natural access to the sea by taking Kuwait away from them to form
the Anglo-American Oil Comapany when it was discovered large ammounts of
crude was present in the area.
They did not tell you that when you were wiping the cum of your remote
control as you jerked-off for the 15th time to the sigth of smart bombs
hitting a children's hospital to a rock music soundtrack on CNN.
But at the end of the day democracy an freedom in free Kuwait. Right???
I am not defending Saddam, all dictators are evil look at George Bush. I
feel for the 400,000 innocent people who died so that certain golf clubs
in the outer suburbs of Detroit could continue to collect heavy
membership fees.
Docktor Reality