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Head Librarian

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Nov 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/20/96
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mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote to a newbie

> cma...@abu.bio.uci.edu (Chris Markle) writes:
> >Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
>
> >>Most homosexuals are talented people, who deserve the same rights as we
> >>"normal" people. James Koput's (cr...@idirect.com) comments remind me
> >>of Adolf Hitler.
>
> > oh!! mr. fuckhead-tanner thinks "most homosexuals are talented people".
> > hmmm... isn't that the same mindest as Koput, just a little
> > nicer intent ? you think your better than him, dipshit scando
> > pussy, but your just self-righteous. deny the truth of what I say,
> > and prove that you are a moral coward as well.
>
> > you disgust me. don't ever talk about nazis, your whole fuckin
> > country colaborated with them. the stench from your posts
> > is unbearable.
>
> I don't know where you've been reading, but Finland hardly collaborated
> with Germany in WWII.

Read it again.

We kicked the Russian ass not once, but TWICE, during our fight against
them.

We made an agreement with Germany and Hitler, because their purposes
and "intentions" were somewhat similar considering the Russian fucks.

We never made an alliance, but we fighted along with the Germans.

Our achievement in the WW2 was incredible. Yes, we lost the third fight,
but we fighted like _men_.

If you take a look at the WW2 statistics, you can easily find out that
one Finn easily matched 9 Russians.

--
Quick to judge. Quick to anger.
Slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand. -- Peart


Chris Markle

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Nov 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/20/96
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Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:

>mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote to a newbie

<snip>

>> I don't know where you've been reading, but Finland hardly collaborated
>> with Germany in WWII.

>Read it again.

>We kicked the Russian ass not once, but TWICE, during our fight against
>them.

>We made an agreement with Germany and Hitler, because their purposes
>and "intentions" were somewhat similar considering the Russian fucks.

>We never made an alliance, but we fighted along with the Germans.

>Our achievement in the WW2 was incredible. Yes, we lost the third fight,
>but we fighted like _men_.

>If you take a look at the WW2 statistics, you can easily find out that
>one Finn easily matched 9 Russians.


unlike those putrid swedes. neutral my ass, they're just
cowardly. millinia of evolution and all they can
produce is Martin krapsajck (you know who i mean).


Blackthorne

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Nov 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/21/96
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Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
>mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote to a newbie
>> cma...@abu.bio.uci.edu (Chris Markle) writes:
>> >Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
>>
>> >>Most homosexuals are talented people, who deserve the same rights as we
>> >>"normal" people. James Koput's (cr...@idirect.com) comments remind me
>> >>of Adolf Hitler.
>>
>> > oh!! mr. fuckhead-tanner thinks "most homosexuals are talented people".
>> > hmmm... isn't that the same mindest as Koput, just a little
>> > nicer intent ? you think your better than him, dipshit scando
>> > pussy, but your just self-righteous. deny the truth of what I say,
>> > and prove that you are a moral coward as well.
>>
>> > you disgust me. don't ever talk about nazis, your whole fuckin
>> > country colaborated with them. the stench from your posts
>> > is unbearable.
>>
>> I don't know where you've been reading, but Finland hardly collaborated
>> with Germany in WWII.

>Read it again.

>We kicked the Russian ass not once, but TWICE, during our fight against
>them.

>We made an agreement with Germany and Hitler, because their purposes
>and "intentions" were somewhat similar considering the Russian fucks.

>We never made an alliance, but we fighted along with the Germans.

Okay, common enemy, but hardly common goals.

>Our achievement in the WW2 was incredible. Yes, we lost the third fight,
>but we fighted like _men_.

>If you take a look at the WW2 statistics, you can easily find out that
>one Finn easily matched 9 Russians.

I read an article on the first few months of war between Russia and the
Finns, how the Russians crammed themselves in the snow-sodden forests
and were their own greatest enemy. Inspiring stuff. You guys should
never have given up Lappland in the truce though :P

Kjartan Johansen


Kerro

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Nov 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/21/96
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Head Librarian wrote:
>
> mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote to a newbie
>
> > cma...@abu.bio.uci.edu (Chris Markle) writes:
> > >Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
> ><...>

> > I don't know where you've been reading, but Finland hardly collaborated
> > with Germany in WWII.
>
> Read it again.
>
> We kicked the Russian ass not once, but TWICE, during our fight against
> them.

Mmmmm....up to an extent. But the Russians did ultimately win and your
country was "Finlandisised"; meaning it retained its independence but
had to make "concessions" to the Soviet Union up until about 1990.

A large part of the reason why the Finss did kick the Russians' asses
was because Stalin had purged most of his top Military officers and the
Red Army was demoralised and most of the troops had no real understanding
of why they were fighting etc...

>
> We made an agreement with Germany and Hitler, because their purposes
> and "intentions" were somewhat similar considering the Russian fucks.

True. That was the extenuating circumstance. Few Finns had any sympathy
for the Nazis.


>
> We never made an alliance, but we fighted along with the Germans.
>

> Our achievement in the WW2 was incredible. Yes, we lost the third fight,
> but we fighted like _men_.

What, the women did fuck-all ?

>
> If you take a look at the WW2 statistics, you can easily find out that
> one Finn easily matched 9 Russians.
>

> --
> Quick to judge. Quick to anger.
> Slow to understand.
> Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand. -- Peart

Well, Peart ought to know. Aren't Rush a bit "right-wing" in their
views? I seem to recall reading somewhere that they have some rather
ugly almost-fascistic views....

Head Librarian

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Nov 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/21/96
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mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote:

> Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
> >mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote to a newbie
> >> cma...@abu.bio.uci.edu (Chris Markle) writes:
> >> >Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
> >>

> >> >>Most homosexuals are talented people, who deserve the same rights as we
> >> >>"normal" people. James Koput's (cr...@idirect.com) comments remind me
> >> >>of Adolf Hitler.
> >>
> >> > oh!! mr. fuckhead-tanner thinks "most homosexuals are talented people".
> >> > hmmm... isn't that the same mindest as Koput, just a little
> >> > nicer intent ? you think your better than him, dipshit scando
> >> > pussy, but your just self-righteous. deny the truth of what I say,
> >> > and prove that you are a moral coward as well.
> >>
> >> > you disgust me. don't ever talk about nazis, your whole fuckin
> >> > country colaborated with them. the stench from your posts
> >> > is unbearable.
> >>

> >> I don't know where you've been reading, but Finland hardly collaborated
> >> with Germany in WWII.
>
> >Read it again.
>
> >We kicked the Russian ass not once, but TWICE, during our fight against
> >them.
>

> >We made an agreement with Germany and Hitler, because their purposes
> >and "intentions" were somewhat similar considering the Russian fucks.
>

> >We never made an alliance, but we fighted along with the Germans.
>

> Okay, common enemy, but hardly common goals.

It _was_ a common goal: Russia: Hitler's last mistake.

> >Our achievement in the WW2 was incredible. Yes, we lost the third fight,
> >but we fighted like _men_.
>

> >If you take a look at the WW2 statistics, you can easily find out that
> >one Finn easily matched 9 Russians.
>

> I read an article on the first few months of war between Russia and the
> Finns, how the Russians crammed themselves in the snow-sodden forests
> and were their own greatest enemy. Inspiring stuff. You guys should
> never have given up Lappland in the truce though :P

Actually, the only parts that we lost were the eastern parts of the
country: Viaborg and Karelia.

Now these areas are raped and deserted, after 50 years of Russian
supervision.

Head Librarian

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Nov 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/21/96
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cma...@abu.bio.uci.edu (Chris Markle) wrote:

> mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) writes:
>
> >cma...@abu.bio.uci.edu (Chris Markle) writes:
> >>Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
>
> >>>Most homosexuals are talented people, who deserve the same rights as we
> >>>"normal" people. James Koput's (cr...@idirect.com) comments remind me
> >>>of Adolf Hitler.
>
> >> oh!! mr. fuckhead-tanner thinks "most homosexuals are talented people".
> >> hmmm... isn't that the same mindest as Koput, just a little
> >> nicer intent ? you think your better than him, dipshit scando
> >> pussy, but your just self-righteous. deny the truth of what I say,
> >> and prove that you are a moral coward as well.
>
> >> you disgust me. don't ever talk about nazis, your whole fuckin
> >> country colaborated with them. the stench from your posts
> >> is unbearable.
>
> >I don't know where you've been reading, but Finland hardly collaborated
> >with Germany in WWII.
>

> they sure as hell did. that's why the US threw 'em to the reds
> after the war.

WHAT?

Ahh, I don't even bother to respond.

It's obvious that the kiddies get their lessons in history from SSI's war
games.

Head Librarian

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Nov 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/21/96
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Kerro <ke...@werple.net.au> wrote:

> Head Librarian wrote:
> > mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote to a newbie
> >

> > > cma...@abu.bio.uci.edu (Chris Markle) writes:
> > > >Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:

> > ><...>


>
> > > I don't know where you've been reading, but Finland hardly collaborated
> > > with Germany in WWII.
> >

> > Read it again.
> >
> > We kicked the Russian ass not once, but TWICE, during our fight against
> > them.
>

> Mmmmm....up to an extent. But the Russians did ultimately win and your
> country was "Finlandisised"; meaning it retained its independence but
> had to make "concessions" to the Soviet Union up until about 1990.

Where have you read this awful nonsense?

The term "finlandised" refers to our neutrality policy during the cold
war. And that practically leaved us out from the political tension between
U.S and the former Soviet Union.

The only effect the Russians had on our political system was that they
bribed some of the lowlifes in the Communist party to distribute
positive propaganda and lies about Russian political system. This happened
in the 60'S.

Their biggest achievement was to get 2 of 300 parliament members.

Finland was the richest country in the world between years 1980-1989.
How on earth you think we could have managed that with Russian
leadership?

It's obvious you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Do you get your "facts" from Reader's Digest, for Christ's sake!

> A large part of the reason why the Finss did kick the Russians' asses
> was because Stalin had purged most of his top Military officers and the
> Red Army was demoralised and most of the troops had no real understanding
> of why they were fighting etc...

That's what the Russians gave for an excuse. Their defeat was so
embarrassing.

My both grandfathers were in the war. My father's father (R.I.P)
killed DOZENS of Russian fucks, and I have PERSONALLY heard what
happened in the battleground.

I wish you could meet him personally. I bet he would squeeze a few
pimples from your teenage face, after listening your humorous
versions about the WW2 incidents.



> > We made an agreement with Germany and Hitler, because their purposes
> > and "intentions" were somewhat similar considering the Russian fucks.
>

> True. That was the extenuating circumstance. Few Finns had any sympathy
> for the Nazis.

This is a fact. We USED the nazis.

[...]

Blackthorne

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Nov 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/22/96
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Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
>mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote:

>> I read an article on the first few months of war between Russia and the
>> Finns, how the Russians crammed themselves in the snow-sodden forests
>> and were their own greatest enemy. Inspiring stuff. You guys should
>> never have given up Lappland in the truce though :P

>Actually, the only parts that we lost were the eastern parts of the
>country: Viaborg and Karelia.

Wasn't northern-most Finland ceded to Russia also?

>Now these areas are raped and deserted, after 50 years of Russian
>supervision.

Blackthorne


Kerro

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Nov 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/22/96
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Head Librarian wrote:
>
> Kerro <ke...@werple.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Head Librarian wrote:
> > > mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote to a newbie
> > >
> > > > cma...@abu.bio.uci.edu (Chris Markle) writes:
> > > > >Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
> > > ><...>
> >
> > > > I don't know where you've been reading, but Finland hardly collaborated
> > > > with Germany in WWII.
> > >
> > > Read it again.
> > >
> > > We kicked the Russian ass not once, but TWICE, during our fight against
> > > them.
> >
> > Mmmmm....up to an extent. But the Russians did ultimately win and your
> > country was "Finlandisised"; meaning it retained its independence but
> > had to make "concessions" to the Soviet Union up until about 1990.
>
> Where have you read this awful nonsense?
>See my separate posting on this subject.


> The term "finlandised" refers to our neutrality policy during the cold
> war. And that practically leaved us out from the political tension between
> U.S and the former Soviet Union.
>
> The only effect the Russians had on our political system was that they
> bribed some of the lowlifes in the Communist party to distribute
> positive propaganda and lies about Russian political system. This happened
> in the 60'S.

It wasn't just low-lifes. Lenin had a big impact on "The Workers" in
Finland when he was there. (My wife and I visited the Lenin Museum in
Tampere - I got the whole story).

>
> Their biggest achievement was to get 2 of 300 parliament members.

Well, I don't know - that may have been the biggest *tangible*
achievement - but they had more *influence* unofficially. Again, read
my separate posting.

>
> Finland was the richest country in the world between years 1980-1989.
> How on earth you think we could have managed that with Russian
> leadership?

True. But I didn't say Russian *leadership* - I said *influence*.

>
> It's obvious you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

You know damn well I usually know what I'm talking about.

>
> Do you get your "facts" from Reader's Digest, for Christ's sake!

Nah. "Spider Man" comics...

>
> > A large part of the reason why the Finss did kick the Russians' asses
> > was because Stalin had purged most of his top Military officers and the
> > Red Army was demoralised and most of the troops had no real understanding
> > of why they were fighting etc...
>
> That's what the Russians gave for an excuse. Their defeat was so
> embarrassing.

Well, It wasn't actually a defeat. You can't say the Finns righteously
*beat* the Russkys - they did ultimately win, as I said.

>
> My both grandfathers were in the war. My father's father (R.I.P)
> killed DOZENS of Russian fucks, and I have PERSONALLY heard what
> happened in the battleground.
>
> I wish you could meet him personally. I bet he would squeeze a few
> pimples from your teenage face, after listening your humorous
> versions about the WW2 incidents.

What did I say that was so *humorous* ?

>
> > > We made an agreement with Germany and Hitler, because their purposes
> > > and "intentions" were somewhat similar considering the Russian fucks.
> >
> > True. That was the extenuating circumstance. Few Finns had any sympathy
> > for the Nazis.
>
> This is a fact. We USED the nazis.

Well, I wouldn't sound so proud about it....

Head Librarian

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Nov 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/22/96
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Blackthorne (mj...@uow.edu.au) wrote:

: Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
: >mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote:

: >> I read an article on the first few months of war between Russia and the
: >> Finns, how the Russians crammed themselves in the snow-sodden forests
: >> and were their own greatest enemy. Inspiring stuff. You guys should
: >> never have given up Lappland in the truce though :P

: >Actually, the only parts that we lost were the eastern parts of the
: >country: Viaborg and Karelia.

: Wasn't northern-most Finland ceded to Russia also?

For two weeks, yes. Until we occupied the territories back.

Forever.

After the WW2, when Finland became independent, no country in the
world made our independence questionable.

The punishment we gave to the Russians teached something
to our neighbours, and to the rest of the world, I guess.

Rule number 1: _Never_ fuck with the fucking Finns.

: >Now these areas are raped and deserted, after 50 years of Russian
: >supervision.

: Blackthorne


--
Jack - relax. Get busy with the facts.
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Just the facts. -- Peart

Bob Fredricks

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Nov 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/22/96
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Blackthorne wrote:
>
> Head Librarian <krta...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes:
> >mj...@uow.edu.au (Blackthorne) wrote:
>
> >> I read an article on the first few months of war between Russia and the
> >> Finns, how the Russians crammed themselves in the snow-sodden forests
> >> and were their own greatest enemy. Inspiring stuff. You guys should
> >> never have given up Lappland in the truce though :P
>
> >Actually, the only parts that we lost were the eastern parts of the
> >country: Viaborg and Karelia.
>
> Wasn't northern-most Finland ceded to Russia also?
>
> >Now these areas are raped and deserted, after 50 years of Russian
> >supervision.
>
> Blackthorne

I'm inclined to blame the Communist regime rather than the Russian
people. It is very difficult, individually, to stand up against a
tyranny without risking your life, and many people are too frightened to
oppose and risk their lives. I feel that is why Hitler was so terribly
successful. Opposition must start with one opponent willing to die for
freedom.
Oh, incidently, the phrase should be "We FOUGHT against them".
"Fought" is the past tense for "to fight". (Wired English conjugations)
Oh, also, please don't call fellow human beings "fuckheads".

Bob

Chris Markle

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Nov 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/22/96
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kerro, head-librarian is a little bit upset about my
dragging his country's shameful past out into the open.
hell, at least he isn't french, that's something isn't
it tanner ? 50 years of russian occupation would
leave anyone a little 'techy' and so it is with
tanner. not every country gets a chance to fight the
good fight, some just have to be content with shovelling
snow off the driveway.

anyway head-librarian, cool off (and take off that SS uniform).


Kerro

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Nov 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/23/96
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Chris Markle wrote:
>
> kerro, head-librarian is a little bit upset about my
> dragging his country's shameful past out into the open.
> hell, at least he isn't french, that's something isn't
> it tanner ? 50 years of russian occupation would
> leave anyone a little 'techy' and so it is with
> tanner. not every country gets a chance to fight the
> good fight, some just have to be content with shovelling
> snow off the driveway.

"The French"...did you say "The French"? <starts frothing at the eyes,
goes into convulsions> Don't get me started on those frog-munching scum.


>
> anyway head-librarian, cool off (and take off that SS uniform).

Heh. Red Army uniform, more like. That boy needs to go to a Sauna to
cool off.

Tovarich Kerro.

Avenging Angel

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Nov 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/23/96
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cma...@abu.bio.uci.edu (Chris Markle) wrote:

>
> kerro, head-librarian is a little bit upset about my
> dragging his country's shameful past out into the open.
> hell, at least he isn't french, that's something isn't
> it tanner ? 50 years of russian occupation would
> leave anyone a little 'techy' and so it is with
> tanner. not every country gets a chance to fight the
> good fight, some just have to be content with shovelling
> snow off the driveway.
>

> anyway head-librarian, cool off (and take off that SS uniform).
>

You're no better than those you condem! What did the French do to you? No nation is perfect, no, not even
the U.S. , FAR from it, my dear. Why does there always have to be one prick in the pond, going for the throat
of others?

Head Librarian

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Nov 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/24/96
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Kerro <ke...@werple.net.au> wrote:

Is this supposed to be news? Communist influence was heavy everywhere in
europe among the workers. In different countries they used different
names for the key word "jealous".

Among the young it was kind of a "trend" thing to stand against capitalism
and aristocracy of finance.

Just like the hippie-thing on the U.S.

But where are these people now?

They drive their fucking air-conditioned BMW's and listen to Phil
Collins.

So much for their ideologies.



> >
> > Their biggest achievement was to get 2 of 300 parliament members.
>
> Well, I don't know - that may have been the biggest *tangible*
> achievement - but they had more *influence* unofficially. Again, read
> my separate posting.

What fucking influence? Even Hitler had some influence on some people.

Yes, we had a small group of traitors here, even a few politicians.
But that doesn't mean they had ANY effect on civilized people here.

If you have visited a working-class little shithole town like Tampere,
you MUST have some bad feelings about this country, and I don't blame you.

> >
> > Finland was the richest country in the world between years 1980-1989.
> > How on earth you think we could have managed that with Russian
> > leadership?
>
> True. But I didn't say Russian *leadership* - I said *influence*.

They had some influence on our architecture in 1600'S. But they
stealed "their" architechture from Italians.

> >
> > It's obvious you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
>
> You know damn well I usually know what I'm talking about.

You talk so much shit that you must die on overdose of laxative pills.



> >
> > Do you get your "facts" from Reader's Digest, for Christ's sake!
>
> Nah. "Spider Man" comics...

Thought so.

> >
> > > A large part of the reason why the Finss did kick the Russians' asses
> > > was because Stalin had purged most of his top Military officers and the
> > > Red Army was demoralised and most of the troops had no real understanding
> > > of why they were fighting etc...
> >
> > That's what the Russians gave for an excuse. Their defeat was so
> > embarrassing.
>
> Well, It wasn't actually a defeat. You can't say the Finns righteously
> *beat* the Russkys - they did ultimately win, as I said.

Is that a fact? Well, you could say they won the small territories in
the eastern border, but they lost a few hundered thousand men during the
fight.

Kind of embarrassing for the country which was hundered times bigger than
their opposing team, wasn't it?

> >
> > My both grandfathers were in the war. My father's father (R.I.P)
> > killed DOZENS of Russian fucks, and I have PERSONALLY heard what
> > happened in the battleground.
> >
> > I wish you could meet him personally. I bet he would squeeze a few
> > pimples from your teenage face, after listening your humorous
> > versions about the WW2 incidents.

[...]


> > > > We made an agreement with Germany and Hitler, because their purposes
> > > > and "intentions" were somewhat similar considering the Russian fucks.
> > >
> > > True. That was the extenuating circumstance. Few Finns had any sympathy
> > > for the Nazis.
> >
> > This is a fact. We USED the nazis.
>
> Well, I wouldn't sound so proud about it....

Why not?


Kerro

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Nov 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/24/96
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What's that supposed to mean? That everyone who was left-wing was only so
because they they were jealous of people with money?


>
> Among the young it was kind of a "trend" thing to stand against capitalism
> and aristocracy of finance.
>
> Just like the hippie-thing on the U.S.

But the hippie business only lasted from about 1966 to about 1974 - it
was never a serious political movement. Soviet influence was more
profound on its "satelites" (I'm not suggesting Finland was exactly a
"Soviet Satelite" but something in that ball-park).


>
> But where are these people now?
>
> They drive their fucking air-conditioned BMW's and listen to Phil
> Collins.

Not to mention Rush.


>
> So much for their ideologies.
>
> > >
> > > Their biggest achievement was to get 2 of 300 parliament members.
> >
> > Well, I don't know - that may have been the biggest *tangible*
> > achievement - but they had more *influence* unofficially. Again, read
> > my separate posting.
>
> What fucking influence? Even Hitler had some influence on some people.
>
> Yes, we had a small group of traitors here, even a few politicians.
> But that doesn't mean they had ANY effect on civilized people here.
>
> If you have visited a working-class little shithole town like Tampere,
> you MUST have some bad feelings about this country, and I don't blame you.

Tampere wasn't a shithole. And we also went to Kuopio (quite affluent)
and, of course Helsinki. And furthermore, when did I say I had bad
feelings about Finland? I was merely disputing your re-writing of
history. Chris Markle (and no doubt many others like him around the
world) thinks that Finland is a Communist satelite. That's your own
fault. Or to be more specific, the fault of your piss-poor, boring
governments who don't know how to promote their own country. Everybody
looks up to Sweden (I KNOW how much this pisses you Finns off), yet
there's no real difference between Finland and Sweden - just that most of
the world knows fuck-all about Finland. That's because you people are
such err..."tuppisuus". Get on the ball, Finnish Fuckheads.

> > >
> > > Finland was the richest country in the world between years 1980-1989.
> > > How on earth you think we could have managed that with Russian
> > > leadership?
> >
> > True. But I didn't say Russian *leadership* - I said *influence*.
>
> They had some influence on our architecture in 1600'S. But they
> stealed "their" architechture from Italians.

Nice side-step, Tyson.


>
> > >
> > > It's obvious you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
> >
> > You know damn well I usually know what I'm talking about.
>
> You talk so much shit that you must die on overdose of laxative pills.
>
> > >
> > > Do you get your "facts" from Reader's Digest, for Christ's sake!
> >
> > Nah. "Spider Man" comics...
>
> Thought so.
>
> > >
> > > > A large part of the reason why the Finss did kick the Russians' asses
> > > > was because Stalin had purged most of his top Military officers and the
> > > > Red Army was demoralised and most of the troops had no real understanding
> > > > of why they were fighting etc...
> > >
> > > That's what the Russians gave for an excuse. Their defeat was so
> > > embarrassing.
> >
> > Well, It wasn't actually a defeat. You can't say the Finns righteously
> > *beat* the Russkys - they did ultimately win, as I said.
>
> Is that a fact? Well, you could say they won the small territories in
> the eastern border, but they lost a few hundered thousand men during the
> fight.
>
> Kind of embarrassing for the country which was hundered times bigger than
> their opposing team, wasn't it?
>
> > >
> > > My both grandfathers were in the war. My father's father (R.I.P)
> > > killed DOZENS of Russian fucks, and I have PERSONALLY heard what
> > > happened in the battleground.

"Russian Fucks" ? Bit hateful isn't it? Most of them didn't even know
why they were fighting.


> > >
> > > I wish you could meet him personally. I bet he would squeeze a few
> > > pimples from your teenage face, after listening your humorous
> > > versions about the WW2 incidents.
>
> [...]
> > > > > We made an agreement with Germany and Hitler, because their purposes
> > > > > and "intentions" were somewhat similar considering the Russian fucks.
> > > >
> > > > True. That was the extenuating circumstance. Few Finns had any sympathy
> > > > for the Nazis.
> > >
> > > This is a fact. We USED the nazis.
> >
> > Well, I wouldn't sound so proud about it....
>
> Why not?

"Using the Nazis", is not that vastly different from "collaborating with
the Nazis". Anyway, you didn't "use" the Germans, they just boogied right
in, and you had to "co-operate" or else....

BTW, why are you suddenly using words like "fighted", "stealed" etc?
Are you trying to sucker me into a spell-flame? I told you I don't do
that shit (and this isn't a spell-flame either).

Kerro.

Nuncio Bitis

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> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
> otherwise perfectly good planet.

Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!

Ward Stewart

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@. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:


An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
the evidence before us here on A.P.H.

ward

************************************************
"The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
Israel Zangwill

*************************************************


Avenging Angel

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wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) wrote:

I must have missed something here, with all this confusion about hetero, homo, Jews, Christians, my head's
spinning. ..

The Whiz

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Ward Stewart wrote:
>
> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
>
> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
>
> >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
> >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
>
> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.

The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
the savior!

> "The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
> of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
> Israel Zangwill

Christian love is the only hope for the world.
S
Stop your homosexual sins!

Repent!

the power of the Whiz

Malaprop

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Stop crossposting to alt.pagan or we will take a powerful
whiz on your head!
\

Moron!\


Damn thumper!

Vortex

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On Thu, 05 Dec 1996 12:29:24 -0600, The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business>
wrote:

>Ward Stewart wrote:
>>
>> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
>>
>> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
>> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
>> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
>>
>> >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
>> >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
>>
>> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
>> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.
>
>The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
>the savior!

No way. Last time I tried to accept him I found out his cock was too
big and it hurt like a motherfucker.

>> "The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
>> of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
>> Israel Zangwill
>
>Christian love is the only hope for the world.

Really? Perhaps you'll breeze by here with an example of it sometime.

>Stop your homosexual sins!
>
>Repent!

Get a life.


Vortex
_

Yes, at one time God tried to guide me, but through the bright light I
could not see where he was leading. Then I became one with the darkness.
It helped me to filter out the light. To see past the light. To see
where I was being guided. It was then that I saw the light was trying to
lead me off a cliff.

John Sanger

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In article <32A714...@your.own.business> The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business> writes:
>Ward Stewart wrote:
>>
>> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
>>
>> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
>> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
>> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
>>
>> >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
>> >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
>>
>> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
>> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.
>
>The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
>the savior!
>

Provide the proof that your invisible fictional deity exists......

>> "The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
>> of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
>> Israel Zangwill
>
>Christian love is the only hope for the world.

Provide your proof that your superstition is based upon any
substance..... provide the proof that your fictional invisible deity
exists.....

>Stop your homosexual sins!
>

Provide proof that homosexuality is a sin.... since the concept of sin
is one belonging to your brand of superstition supply the proof that
your invisible fictional deity exists.....

>Repent!
>

Yes, you do badly need to do that..... you are such a pathetic
superstitious fool....

clueless is as clueless does!

"the whiz"==clueless==ignoramus

--
Ciao!
John S. 8^{)>
tedd...@netcom.com
__


The Whiz

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John Sanger wrote:
>
> In article <32A714...@your.own.business> The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business> writes:
> >Ward Stewart wrote:
> >>
> >> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
> >> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
> >> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
> >>
> >> >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
> >> >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
> >>
> >> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
> >> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.
> >
> >The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
> >the savior!
> >
>
> Provide the proof that your invisible fictional deity exists......
>
The proof is all around you fool! Open your eyes!

Why would the majority of people accept Christ as their savior
if it wasn't so?

> >> "The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
> >> of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
> >> Israel Zangwill
> >
> >Christian love is the only hope for the world.
>
> Provide your proof that your superstition is based upon any
> substance..... provide the proof that your fictional invisible deity
> exists.....

Read the Bible fool!


>
> >Stop your homosexual sins!
> >
>
> Provide proof that homosexuality is a sin.... since the concept of sin
> is one belonging to your brand of superstition supply the proof that
> your invisible fictional deity exists.....

It's in the bible moron>

> >Repent!
> >
>
> Yes, you do badly need to do that..... you are such a pathetic
> superstitious fool....

D

Bite me you sinner!

>
> clueless is as clueless does!
>

haha so funny i forgot to laugh

> "the whiz"==clueless==ignoramus

you will change your mind on judgement day fool!


>
> --
> Ciao!
> John S. 8^{)>
> tedd...@netcom.com
> __


The power of the Whiz

The Whiz

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Vortex wrote:
>
> On Thu, 05 Dec 1996 12:29:24 -0600, The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business>
> wrote:
>
> >Ward Stewart wrote:
> >>
> >> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
> >> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
> >> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
> >>
> >> >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
> >> >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
> >>
> >> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
> >> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.
> >
> >The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
> >the savior!
>
> No way. Last time I tried to accept him I found out his cock was too
> big and it hurt like a motherfucker.

You are a sick sinner! Stop your perversion now or you will burn
in hell!


>
> >> "The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
> >> of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
> >> Israel Zangwill
> >
> >Christian love is the only hope for the world.
>

> Really? Perhaps you'll breeze by here with an example of it sometime.
>

The most loving thing I can do is make you accept your savior.

> >Stop your homosexual sins!
> >
> >Repent!
>
> Get a life.

I have a life through Jesus!


>
> Vortex
> _
>
> Yes, at one time God tried to guide me, but through the bright light I
> could not see where he was leading. Then I became one with the darkness.
> It helped me to filter out the light. To see past the light. To see
> where I was being guided. It was then that I saw the light was trying to
> lead me off a cliff.


You are a sick fool!


STop your evil sins!

God will not let gays in heaven.

Dean Hollister

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The Whiz wrote:

> God will not let gays in heaven.
>
> The power of the Whiz

Dear:
[x] Clueless Newbie [x] Lamer [ ] Pervert
[ ] AOLer [x] Spammer [x] Nerd
[x] Freak [x] Asshole [x] Moron(tm)
[x] Troll [x] Loser [ ] Josh (all
of the above)

I took exception to your recent post/spam to many newsgroups.

You will now be flamed because:
[x] You made a ridiculously off-topic post to a newsgroup.
[x] You made a ridiculously off-topic post to several newsgroups.
[ ] Your post originated on AOL.
[ ] Your post originated on GNN.
[ ] Your post originated on Netcom.
[ ] Your post originated on EarthLink.
[x] Your post originated from any other worthless excuse for an ISP.
[x] Your post implicated the Bible as your equal partner in crime.
[ ] Your post contained numerous spelling errors.
[ ] Your post contained numerous grammatical errors.
[ ] Your post contained EXCESSIVE CAPITALIZATION.
[ ] Your post contained excessive punctuation.
[ ] Your post contained AlTeRnAtInG cApItAlIzAtIoN.
[ ] Your post contained 3l3373 7yp1ng, d00d.
[ ] You posted the exact same message/reply more than once.
[ ] You posted a "test" to a group other than alt.test.
[ ] You posted a binary to a group other than alt.binaries.*.
[ ] You posted a non-binary to an alt.binaries.* group.
[x] You flamed someone who has been around far longer than you.
[x] You flamed someone who is far more intelligent and witty than you
are.
[x] You flamed someone, then contradicted yourself.
[ ] You quoted an entire article, only to add nothing.
[ ] You quoted an entire article, only to add 1 line(s).
[ ] You quoted an entire article, only to add "Me too!".
[ ] Or something relatively close to "Me too!".
[x] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK!" message.
[ ] You posted a request for "SEXXY GIFZ".
[ ] You posted a request for "AOHell"
[ ] You posted a request to mailbomb an address.
[ ] And the given address's domain matched yours.
[ ] Because you don't know how to mailbomb.
[ ] Because this person is obviously far superior to you.
[ ] You posted a net sex ad.
[ ] You posted a pyramid money making scheme.
[ ] And you foolishly included your own Snail Mail address.
[x] You posted/flamed from an "Anonymous" account.
[x] Which classifies you as a coward.
[ ] You phished for:
[ ] An AOL "15 free hours" account
[ ] An AOL password
[ ] A credit card number
[ ] Money for a worthless cause.
[x] You suck.
[ ] You posted pro-AOL propaganda.
[ ] You are ab...@shore.net
[ ] You posted an obvious troll.
[ ] You posted a commercial advertisement.
[ ] And it was poor advertising.
[ ] And it was for a stupid product.
[x] What you posted has been done before.
[x] More than once.
[x] And it was done much better the last time.
[ ] You posted an obvious forgery.
[ ] And it was done clumsily.
[ ] And it was easily traceable.
[ ] And you blamed a relative/friend for the forgery.
[ ] It was done to seem that a person who is superior to you
wrote it.
[ ] Your .sig pisses me off because:
[ ] It is more than 6 lines.
[ ] Your newsreader truncated it.
[ ] It contains a stupid disclaimer.
[ ] It contains a stupid, pointless quote.
[ ] You attempted to be witty in it and failed.
[ ] Miserably.
[ ] It contains lame ASCII graphics.
[ ] I don't give a shit about your WWW site.

To repent, you must:
[ ] Keyword Cancel on your AOL account.
[x] Leave this newsgroup.
[ ] Learn to type/spell/drool correctly.
[ ] Read the FAQ.
[ ] Locate a gun, with which you are to shoot yourself with.
[x] Stop reading Usenet groups.
[x] Stop posting to Usenet groups.
[x] Consume excrement.
[x] And thus expire.
[x] Remove your modem and bust it up with a hammer.
[x] Be the guest of honor in alt.flame for a month.
[ ] Take your advertisement and shove it up your ass.
[ ] Orally satisfy the local Moron(tm): Josh Brandt
[ ] And become his/her love slave.
[ ] And get hideous tropical diseases.
[ ] And enjoy every minute of it.
Furthermore, I'd like to say:
[x] You have greatly misunderstood the purpose of(Newsgroup)
[x] You are a loser.
[ ] *plonk*
[x] Grow up.
[x] You're a Moron(tm).
[x] Get a life.
[x] Go to hell.
[ ] Yer momma's so fat/stupid/ugly that etc...
[x] Get a clue.
[ ] Your company should disclaim YOU.
[x] Why don't you see how far your tongue goes into the electric
outlet?
[x] Did you mother/test tube have any children that lived?
[ ] All of the above.

This message has been:
[x] Posted [ ] E-Mailed [ ] Posted and E-Mailed

Additional comments:
Either you have nothing to say, or you just like seeing your name in
print. Whatever the problem is, stop sucking bandwidth with usless
quotes unless you have something to add.

d.

--
+-------------------------------------------------------+
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| Region Co-Ordinator, | de...@odyssey.apana.org.au*|
| APANA, | |
| Western Australia. | *finger A/C for more info |
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John Sanger

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In article <32A7BC...@your.own.business> The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business> writes:
>John Sanger wrote:
>>
>> In article <32A714...@your.own.business> The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business> writes:
>> >Ward Stewart wrote:
>> >>
>> >> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
>> >> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
>> >> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
>> >>
>> >> >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
>> >> >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
>> >>
>> >> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
>> >> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.
>> >
>> >The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
>> >the savior!
>> >
>>
>> Provide the proof that your invisible fictional deity exists......
>>
>The proof is all around you fool! Open your eyes!
>

Sorry but that is just not true.

>Why would the majority of people accept Christ as their savior
>if it wasn't so?
>

Complete and utter ignorance.....

>> >> "The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
>> >> of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
>> >> Israel Zangwill
>> >
>> >Christian love is the only hope for the world.
>>

>> Provide your proof that your superstition is based upon any
>> substance..... provide the proof that your fictional invisible deity
>> exists.....
>
>Read the Bible fool!

Provide the proof that your deity exists so that you can validate the
collection of fictions and fables.......

>>
>> >Stop your homosexual sins!
>> >
>>
>> Provide proof that homosexuality is a sin.... since the concept of sin
>> is one belonging to your brand of superstition supply the proof that
>> your invisible fictional deity exists.....
>
>It's in the bible moron>
>

Again provide the proof that you deity exists so that your collection of
fictions and fables can be substantiated.....

>> >Repent!
>> >
>>
>> Yes, you do badly need to do that..... you are such a pathetic
>> superstitious fool....
>D
>
>Bite me you sinner!
>

Oh, seems I hit a softspot........

>>
>> clueless is as clueless does!
>>
>haha so funny i forgot to laugh
>
>> "the whiz"==clueless==ignoramus
>
>you will change your mind on judgement day fool!
>>

Oh, hardly..... your superstition has not one shred of evidence to
support the existance of your invisible fictional deity let alone
anything your collection of fictions and fables might have attributed to
this invisible fictional deity.....
Unless you provide the proof requested there cannot be any validity to
"judgement day"...

There is however plenty of evidence to you being a "fool" by what you
have posted......


clueless is as clueless does!

"the whiz"==clueless==ignoramus

hmm, let's see "the whiz" is slang for someone draining their bladder...
how very appropriate of you to select such a monicur, it fits what you
post rather well.... worthless piss.....

John Sanger

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In article <32A7BD...@your.own.business> The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business> writes:
>Vortex wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 05 Dec 1996 12:29:24 -0600, The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Ward Stewart wrote:
>> >>
>> >> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
>> >> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
>> >> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
>> >>
>> >> >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
>> >> >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
>> >>
>> >> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
>> >> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.
>> >
>> >The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
>> >the savior!
>>
>> No way. Last time I tried to accept him I found out his cock was too
>> big and it hurt like a motherfucker.
>
>You are a sick sinner! Stop your perversion now or you will burn
>in hell!

You are showing the world just how deranged your mind really is.....
Have you tried any professional help?

>>
>> >> "The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
>> >> of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
>> >> Israel Zangwill
>> >
>> >Christian love is the only hope for the world.
>>

>> Really? Perhaps you'll breeze by here with an example of it sometime.
>>
>The most loving thing I can do is make you accept your savior.
>

ROTFLMAO

>> >Stop your homosexual sins!
>> >
>> >Repent!
>>
>> Get a life.
>
>I have a life through Jesus!

You have this imaginary companion..... have you sought any professional
help for your deranged mind.....?

>>
>> Vortex
>> _
>>
>> Yes, at one time God tried to guide me, but through the bright light I
>> could not see where he was leading. Then I became one with the darkness.
>> It helped me to filter out the light. To see past the light. To see
>> where I was being guided. It was then that I saw the light was trying to
>> lead me off a cliff.
>
>
>You are a sick fool!
>

You are only reflecting your own illness by your posts.... you do
seriously need professional help for your deranged mind.....

>
>STop your evil sins!
>

You are the one who is evil by trying to interfere with the lives others
lead..... you have a deranged mind and need professional help to resolve
your conflicts.....


clueless is as clueless does!

"the whiz"==clueless==ignoramus

--

Dean Hollister

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The Fraud/Whiz wrote:

> The proof is all around you fool! Open your eyes!
>

> Why would the majority of people accept Christ as their savior
> if it wasn't so?

The reality is that the vast majority of ppl are not practicing
Christians, whilst they may be baptised into a Church. Bring the various
other religions, Hindu, Muslim into the picture, and Christianity is
just one form of religion. Not much more than that.

> Read the Bible fool!

Yes, yes, yes! The same document that promotes animal sacrifice! The
same document that says its ok to kill a man who sleeps with another
man! The same document that says MURDER is acceptable!

Back in school when I read those hypocritical sentences in your "Bible",
it turned me off Christianity, and definetly not towards it.

> It's in the bible moron>

Prove the authenticity of the Bible SCIENTIFICALLY. You can't,
therefore, YOU are the "moron", the "fool". The Bible is nothing less
than a fraud.

> Bite me you sinner!

You're not worth your Leprosy.

> you will change your mind on judgement day fool!

Hmmmm, what errr, wank. The Christian Churches have used this sort of
virile guilt as a means of controlling ppl since humanity evolved from
the trees. If ppl wish to practice this sort of pathetic religion, fine,
do so. Just don't thrash it around in every newsgroup you can find
containing the word "homosexual".

> The power of the Whiz

You mean "The bullshit of the Fraud". ;-)

Julian Day

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Dean Hollister (de...@nospam.iinet.net.au) wrote:
: The Fraud/Whiz wrote:

: > The proof is all around you fool! Open your eyes!
: >
: > Why would the majority of people accept Christ as their savior
: > if it wasn't so?

: The reality is that the vast majority of ppl are not practicing
: Christians, whilst they may be baptised into a Church. Bring the various
: other religions, Hindu, Muslim into the picture, and Christianity is
: just one form of religion. Not much more than that.

: > Read the Bible fool!

: Yes, yes, yes! The same document that promotes animal sacrifice! The
: same document that says its ok to kill a man who sleeps with another
: man! The same document that says MURDER is acceptable!

It was common practice in almost all ancient religions to sacrifice an
animal to show your devotion to a god.

: Back in school when I read those hypocritical sentences in your "Bible",


: it turned me off Christianity, and definetly not towards it.

: > It's in the bible moron>

: Prove the authenticity of the Bible SCIENTIFICALLY. You can't,
: therefore, YOU are the "moron", the "fool". The Bible is nothing less
: than a fraud.

The Bible is a book of faith. It is not fraud.

Julian Day
ac...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca


Dean Hollister

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Julian Day wrote:

> : Yes, yes, yes! The same document that promotes animal sacrifice! The
> : same document that says its ok to kill a man who sleeps with another
> : man! The same document that says MURDER is acceptable!
>
> It was common practice in almost all ancient religions to sacrifice an
> animal to show your devotion to a god.

Really? Then why does the Bible STILL SAY you must sacifice animals?

> : Prove the authenticity of the Bible SCIENTIFICALLY. You can't,
> : therefore, YOU are the "moron", the "fool". The Bible is nothing less
> : than a fraud.
>
> The Bible is a book of faith. It is not fraud.

Faith in what? Something that has never been substaniated with ANY
evidence. Just a load of hogwash, innuendos, superstition, guilt,
rumours...

Need I go on? ;-)

Regards,

Mike Hammond

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The Whiz (mi...@your.own.business) wrote:


: John Sanger wrote:

: > >The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
: > >the savior!

And who might that be?

: > Provide the proof that your invisible fictional deity exists......
: >

: The proof is all around you fool! Open your eyes!

Like you did with your head stuck up your self-righteous asshole?

John may be a bit repetitive, but he makes an important point.

: Why would the majority of people accept Christ as their savior
: if it wasn't so?

A large number seem to believe in "Christ" as their "saviour" because it
has been beaten into their heads over the generations that it is "so".

: > Provide your proof that your superstition is based upon any


: > substance..... provide the proof that your fictional invisible deity
: > exists.....
:
: Read the Bible fool!

He asked for proof of its existance, not myth, not allegory. The Bible (or
I should say, the writers of the Bible) just assumes God exists. It
provides no evidence for "His" existance.

: > >Stop your homosexual sins!


: >
: > Provide proof that homosexuality is a sin.... since the concept of sin
: > is one belonging to your brand of superstition supply the proof that
: > your invisible fictional deity exists.....

:

: It's in the bible moron>

Yet another example of Christian Luv!

: Bite me you sinner!

Need I say more?

: you will change your mind on judgement day fool!

And I assume you won't need to change yours since you lost it somewheres?

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On Fri, 06 Dec 1996 00:28:57 -0600, The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business>
wrote:

>Vortex wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 05 Dec 1996 12:29:24 -0600, The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Ward Stewart wrote:
>> >>
>> >> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
>> >> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
>> >> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
>> >>
>> >> >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
>> >> >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
>> >>
>> >> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
>> >> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.
>> >

>> >The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
>> >the savior!
>>

>> No way. Last time I tried to accept him I found out his cock was too
>> big and it hurt like a motherfucker.
>
>You are a sick sinner! Stop your perversion now or you will burn
>in hell!

God, you're easy.

>> >> "The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
>> >> of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
>> >> Israel Zangwill
>> >
>> >Christian love is the only hope for the world.
>>
>> Really? Perhaps you'll breeze by here with an example of it sometime.
>>
>The most loving thing I can do is make you accept your savior.

But then I would have to be as ignorant, small-minded and gullible as
you. How does dragging me down to your level benefit anyone but you?

>> >Stop your homosexual sins!
>> >
>> >Repent!
>>
>> Get a life.
>
>I have a life through Jesus!

Then you have no life because you have to submit to another's will.
Those who have lives run their own.

>> Vortex
>> _
>>
>> Yes, at one time God tried to guide me, but through the bright light I
>> could not see where he was leading. Then I became one with the darkness.
>> It helped me to filter out the light. To see past the light. To see
>> where I was being guided. It was then that I saw the light was trying to
>> lead me off a cliff.
>
>
>You are a sick fool!

Calling another man a fool makes one a sinner, according to your
bible.

>STop your evil sins!

Ok, but you go first cause I'm shy.

>God will not let gays in heaven.

And he'll let people in who call others names and judge people? You
are acting as poor witness for your religion, assuming that your
religion goes beyond the condemnation and vilifying of others. I don't
believe in heaven, but if that's where your type is going it sounds
like a pretty dull place.

>The power of the Whiz

A little ego here? What was that about pride being one of the seven
deadly sins? Oops. Guess that part wouldn't be convenient if you are
to continue YOUR sins.

In case you need some help interpreting all this, you've just been
exposed as a fraud and read for filth. Have a nice day.

Vortex
_

"The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals
and three hundred sixty two admonishments to heterosexuals.
That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals.
It's just that they need more supervision."
-Lynne Lavner

Mike Hammond

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Michael William (miab...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: the" Whiz" is not leaving any truthfull e-mail address..............

Of course. He is just your typical ass-trumpeter that has no problem with
swooping out of nowhere, flaming and judging, but uses a false address so
to protect his sorry behind if those he's aggravated choose to do the same
thing to him. To coin a term from Steve Winter: False christian scum.

Michael William

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Dec 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/7/96
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the" Whiz" is not leaving any truthfull e-mail address..............
i neededed to ask:

What of the Torah, Koran,Budahh,Krishna,and others. does this mean all
the other religions of the world are going to hell? or does it mean
that they just dont get into heaven? I mean, we are talking about
millions and millions of people here...hmmmmmmm....(sratching my head)

the savior? isnt that the one they say was born and lived in the area
now known as ethiopia, and is depicted as a bastard son of a carpenter,
light-skinned and never burned or tanned ,must have used SPF35+, a
white sweedish looking guy with blue eyes in a robe out in the desert
who hung out with 8 guys all the time, allways drank wine, and never
had a girlfriend-except he stayed with a gal named Ruth once in a
whorehouse and sat up all night only talking?

hmmmm........(scratch,scratching my head again)


hey why do you call yourself "Whiz" (tinkle...tinkle?)

:-)

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Dec 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/8/96
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z

Alan Miles

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Chad Geraghty wrote:
>Umm. well, while i don't know who wrote this, umm. well where do
> you think mankind would be if there were no str8 people around?


In case you haven't been laid yet, sex in 1996 is completely divorced
from having kids. Most straight fertile people expend a huge effort to
avoid having kids every time they have sex. Many gay people just choose
to do what's necessary to have kids when they want them, and then go
back to having same-sex sex.

I have no idea where this wierd idea that gay people can't produce kids
comes from.

Chad Geraghty

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Alan Miles (ami...@interport.net) wrote:
> Chad Geraghty wrote:
> >Umm. well, while i don't know who wrote this, umm. well where do
> > you think mankind would be if there were no str8 people around?

> In case you haven't been laid yet, sex in 1996 is completely divorced

Actually i have. And trust me, i'm most glad at the fact that has little
to do with kids. I was responding to the message where all str8 people
should be killed off. Sorry, that is just plain stupid. Bigots, sure,
i'll light the match for the burning of them. I was refering to the past.

> from having kids. Most straight fertile people expend a huge effort to
> avoid having kids every time they have sex. Many gay people just choose
> to do what's necessary to have kids when they want them, and then go
> back to having same-sex sex.

> I have no idea where this wierd idea that gay people can't produce kids
> comes from.

Never said they could not have kids. While i do not like science,
especially bio <ugh, looking at dead animals is not fun for me>, there is
no proof that gay people can not have kids. I was never saying that they
couldn't.

And here i was trying not to piss off anyone. Ah well, can't please them
all the time, no?

I'll stand up for anyone's rights if they are infringed upon. Bigots,
hypocrites, and racists as far as i'm concerned, have little, or no rights
in my eyes.

Chad

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Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.

Chad "Top Gun" Geraghty
Carleton University

Email address: cger...@chat.carleton.ca
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MadMax

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Dec 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/15/96
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Alan Miles wrote:
>
> Chad Geraghty wrote:
> >Umm. well, while i don't know who wrote this, umm. well where do
> > you think mankind would be if there were no str8 people around?
>
> In case you haven't been laid yet, sex in 1996 is completely divorced
> from having kids. Most straight fertile people expend a huge effort to
> avoid having kids every time they have sex. Many gay people just choose
> to do what's necessary to have kids when they want them, and then go
> back to having same-sex sex.
>
> I have no idea where this wierd idea that gay people can't produce kids
> comes from.

yup,, and it's also these same bisexuals, that spread the gift that
keeps on giving....

shaman the bell is tolling-
let us gather our tribe-
the storm approaches-
MadMax..

ElDiablo

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Dec 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/16/96
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Which gift is that? Diamonds?

-ElDiablo

nop46753

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Dec 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/19/96
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ElDi...@bigfoot.com (ElDiablo) escreveu:

Lainie

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When last seen,The Whiz <mi...@your.own.business> was found typing:

>Ward Stewart wrote:
>>
>> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
>>
>> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
>> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
>> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
>>
>> >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
>> >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
>>
>> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
>> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.

>The only people who have a right to exist are those who accept
>the savior!

GET REAL!!! According to your own bible, he loves everyone.


>> "The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
>> of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
>> Israel Zangwill

Spare me please...


>Christian love is the only hope for the world.

LOVE is the best hope and common sense will help too.
>Stop your homosexual sins!
Enough already with the sin crap! We ALL get what we give!
>Repent!
I have, that's why I am a Pagan!!!!!

Homer Secksual

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Dec 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/20/96
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In article <32b8d...@206.156.169.1>, lai...@cfanet.com (Lainie) wrote:

> Read this well, it's the BEST posting I've seen in a long time!!! (good
job!) :)
>
> When last seen,Dean Hollister <de...@nospam.iinet.net.au> was found typing:
>

> > [x] You posted/flamed from an "Anonymous" account.
> > [x] Which classifies you as a coward.

> > Additional comments:


> > Either you have nothing to say, or you just like seeing your name in
> >print. Whatever the problem is, stop sucking bandwidth with usless
> >quotes unless you have something to add.
>
> >d.
>
> >--
> >+-------------------------------------------------------+
> >| Dean Hollister, | de...@iinet.net.au |
> >| Region Co-Ordinator, | de...@odyssey.apana.org.au*|
> >| APANA, | |
> >| Western Australia. | *finger A/C for more info |
> >+-------------------------------------------------------+
> >ST:VOY Doctor: "Ahhh! A holographic tissue for a holographic nose!"

Who the fuck are you decide that someone is better because they have 'been
here longer'? if someone is a fuckwit I won't respect them just because
they have 'been around' fuck 'em, and if I want to post anonymously I will
and you can fuck off, cunt.

Dean Hollister

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Dec 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/21/96
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Homer Secksual wrote:

> Who the fuck are you decide that someone is better because they have 'been
> here longer'? if someone is a fuckwit I won't respect them just because
> they have 'been around' fuck 'em, and if I want to post anonymously I will
> and you can fuck off, cunt.

Says you, with the literacy ability and intellect of a two year old.

Mark

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I'm a bit confused as to where this discussion has been, but I thought
it was about heterosexual men and how gay men feel about them (?)

As a gay male growing up I was often teased, threatened and cursed by
male hetero's. Now as an adult I find it difficult to maintain any type
of relationship with them. I find myself avoiding any relationships
with them and only speaking to them when necessary. I still feel that
most straight men, if they knew about my sexual orientation would want
to have nothing to do with me so why even try to maintain a friendship
with one?

Now should we do away with them? Nah, there's good straight men out
there too, I just wish there were more.

Mark

> >> >> >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
> >> >> >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
> >> >> >> otherwise perfectly good planet.

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On 19 Dec 1996 00:43:54 GMT, nop46753 <nop4...@mail.telepac.pt>
wrote:

>ElDi...@bigfoot.com (ElDiablo) escreveu:
>> In article <32B3F0...@mail.sgi.net>, MadMax <mad...@mail.sgi.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Alan Miles wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Chad Geraghty wrote:
>> > > >Umm. well, while i don't know who wrote this, umm. well where do
>> > > > you think mankind would be if there were no str8 people around?
>> > >
>> > > In case you haven't been laid yet, sex in 1996 is completely divorced
>> > > from having kids. Most straight fertile people expend a huge effort to
>> > > avoid having kids every time they have sex. Many gay people just choose
>> > > to do what's necessary to have kids when they want them, and then go
>> > > back to having same-sex sex.

Well that is fucking sick.

>> > >
>> > > I have no idea where this wierd idea that gay people can't produce kids
>> > > comes from.

Normal people, not fagotts.

>> >
>> > yup,, and it's also these same bisexuals, that spread the gift that
>> > keeps on giving....

They should be fucking shot, the bastards.

Alan Miles

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richar...@scorpion.coastmnl.co.uk wrote:

> >>
> >> > Alan Miles wrote:
> >> > >Most straight fertile people expend a huge effort to
> >> > > avoid having kids every time they have sex. Many gay people just choose
> >> > > to do what's necessary to have kids when they want them, and then go
> >> > > back to having same-sex sex.
> Well that is fucking sick.
>
Uh, *what* part of this is "fucking sick?" The part about gay people
having straight sex or going to a sperm bank or whatever to have
children? Or the part about going back to having normal same-gender sex
with their partners?

> >> > >
> >> > > I have no idea where this wierd idea that gay people can't produce kids
> >> > > comes from.
> Normal people, not fagotts.

And here I thought I understood English.

If anyone knows what this means, please post or email. I'm still trying
to parse the "that is fucking sick" bit of poetry.

The Image Trader

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Dec 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/24/96
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Alan Miles <ami...@interport.net>? Nothing to parse here, guy. That
{richar...@scorpion.coastmnl.co.uk} entity is what's known as your typical hettie.
Stay as far away from it as you possibly can: it's infected with all kinds of
distructive deseases. As are **ALL** hetties.

k.l.shipkosky

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> > > >> >> I really think
> > > >> >> no place this world nothing
> > > >> >> wise perfect.
>
> <blink> Umm. well, while i don't know who wrote this, umm, well !
> you mankind people
. I myself I know you.
>
> > > > people exist
> > > >savior!
> Christ, i guess, yes? Sorry, I don't
> follow
>
> > > exist
> > >
> > Open your eyes!
>
> <looking about with wide eyes> Okay. ok ok ok I see walls,
lamp.. god, god?
>
> > Why Christ savior
> > so?
>
> hell>
> > >
> > > exist
>
> > Bible>
> Okay, a book , a book
> Umm, god book > me
> book? You know all things
>
>
> > >
> > > sins!
> > > >
> > > christian
> > > sin....
> > >
> > bible
>
> God above bible homosexual
> sin? > Love
>
> Bite me you sinner!
Bite me?!?! sinners?
> Get a life "Bite me!"
> That's funny.
>
> > you will change your mind fool!

> You really should find some better drugs, then the ones you are one.


i didn't read most of this waste. who needs breeders anyway ? they're
stupid and they stink! any one can spit offspring into a test tube.wymmin
shit out babies like show dogs,they don't need some stupid
hetero-stink-shit to freshen them.all they need is a fag and a turkey
baster.strait guys need to just get over the fact that they can fuck a
whore.it's no big deal ! what they really want is ..oh, who cares what they
fuck'en want? WHAT I WANT ,IS FOR THEM TO JUST " SHUT THE HELL UP " !!!
DON'T THINK SO MUCH ABOUT TWO GUYS DOING EACH OTHER !!! not to mention
being in LOVE with each other...think about...... k5...@msn.com
p.s.........HARE KRISHNA


BrassTarget

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"k.l.shipkosky" <k5...@msn.com> wrote:

That's right! Just groove on your surroundings and don't waste your life
fretting about male lovers eating the essence of life. Slurp! Smack!

Eddie

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k.l.shipkosky <k5...@msn.com> wrote in article
<01bbfb8d$e447eca0$bdca2299@pbcustomer>...

> RIGHT ON !!!!!!!

Ward Stewart

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@. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:


>> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and shot. They really
>> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but corrupt an
>> otherwise perfectly good planet.

>Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends


>are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!


An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
the evidence before us here on A.P.H.

ward

************************************************


"The Jews are a frightened people. Nineteen centuries
of Christian love has broken down their nerves."
Israel Zangwill

*************************************************


BECman

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Jan 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/24/97
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Ward Stewart wrote:
:
: @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
:
: >> I really think all heterosexual males should be taken out and
shot. They really
: >> have no place in this world. They're foul pigs that do nothing but
corrupt an
: >> otherwise perfectly good planet.
:
: >Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
: >are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist
too!
:
: An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
: the evidence before us here on A.P.H.

What *you* call "evidence", we call "delusions".


Graham.

Conrad Sabatier

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Jan 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/26/97
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In article <5c5lge$b...@news.hi.net>,
wste...@hi.net (Ward Stewart) writes:

> @. (Nuncio Bitis) wrote:
>
>>Aw, come on! Heterosexuals are people too! Some of my best friends
>>are straight! Sure, they're foul, but they have a right to exist too!
>
>
> An interesting position but not entirely easy to defend on
> the evidence before us here on A.P.H.

Let us not forget that there *is* a whole great big world out there beyond
this newsgroup.

Perspective, people, perspective!

--
Conrad Sabatier |
con...@neosoft.com | Eschew obfuscation.
http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads |


Ezekiel Krahlin

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Feb 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/6/97
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Here's an essay I'll toss into this newsgroup...perhaps it will
stimulate things. Comments welcome.
------------------------------------------------------------------

HOMORELIGIOSITY

Copyright 1997 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin (ekra...@fog.net)

(Permission granted to freely distribute this essay anywhere and
everywhere, in its complete and unaltered form, with credit to
the true author. Maybe "Christnet" would love to see this
stuff--chuckle. And what about fundamentalist Muslims...as I'm sure
"Queer Islam" needs all the support we can give 'em!)

Dear Compatriots of Same-Sex Love,

As a student of religion and world views for many years--and
a homosexual to boot--I'd like to share some theories I have on
the liberating role Christianity will ultimately have for
lesbians and gay men:

Christianity is so obviously a religion of homosexuality,
that I can't believe our Western cultures are taking so long
(centuries) to come around to that realization! In both the Old
and the New Testament, there is not one mention of God's wife,
mistress, or girlfriend. And the New Testament, of course, is
the incredible story of a Father's love for His Son, and vice
versa. The fundamentalists will be the first to tell you
that...for in their eyes, it is indeed "The Greatest Story Ever
Told". No woman ever appears in this tale, to interfere with
their adoration of each other! If this isn't a homosexual
affair, then I don't know what is.

The New Testament was originally written in the Greek
tongue, and is infused with Greek traditions, culture, and
mythology...and you know how pro-homosexual were the classical
Greeks! So Christianity, from my point of view, is an
embellishment--or perhaps a furtherance--of the pantheon of tales
in what we term "Greek Mythology". Jesus seems to be another
manifestation of Apollo, the God of the Sun's rays and hence,
healing. If you know your Bullfinch, you know that the word
"heal" comes from "Helios," an earlier name for Apollo. You'll
also know that Apollo often interceded between God's wrath and
mankind...usually as a reincarnate in the guise of a humble
peasant, farmer, or craftsman. He'd live among the common folk
in order to understand their needs, desires, foibles and
strengths.

Time and time again, Apollo pleaded with His Father, Zeus,
to not chastise an entire city-state for the crime of an
individual. But Zeus would not listen, and often punished Apollo
for His upstart behavior. However, in His reincarnation as Jesus,
Apollo finally got Zeus to pay attention. And this is most
interesting...for Zeus was portrayed as having a wife, while
Jehovah is not! If you extrapolate from my theory that
Christianity is an extension of Greek mythology...then you may
conclude that--once Apollo made this supreme sacrifice--Zeus fell
hopelessly in love with his radiant son, never to even look at
Hera again, or even acknowledge her existence. For no Greek god
or goddess before this time, had performed such an heroic,
absolutely selfless feat of love...so magnificent as to draw the
loving attention of The Creator Himself, for all eternity. Thus
began not only a new chapter, but a new book, and a new
direction, in Greek mythology...the new book being The New
Testament, and the new direction, Christianity.

The life of Alexander the Great is a clear parallel to my
theory...especially if you believe in reincarnation, and that
Apollo has reincarnated numerous times on earth. I believe that
Apollo, three centuries prior to incarnating as Jesus Christ, was
born as Alexander of Macedonia. It is known that Alexander
believed he was God's son, and searched for his father far and
wide...never to be joined with him again, until death. I believe
that, when a god incarnates as a fleshly mortal, he may lose some
or all of his memory as to who he really is. (This would depend
on the deity's mission.) If such be true, then Alexander may
have been correct: he was the Son of God. And here's a
startling parallel that Alexander's father, King Phillip, had
with Zeus:

His wife, Olympia, was a vicious shrew who tormented her
husband, and all her family to no end. She wanted so badly for
Alexander to inherit the throne, that she poisoned her other son,
Phillip Junior...who became retarded as a result. This was the
last straw for King Phillip, who never slept with Olympia again,
and took only soldiers to bed with him from then on. So Phillip,
like Zeus, ceased to have a wife. I surmise that Phillip may
even have been God Himself incarnate, right there beside his
brave son, Alexander--though neither suspected. (I actually
believe that God and His Son are reincarnated together in each
generation...sometimes to rediscover one another in each
magnificent real-life adventure; in animated 3-D, yet!)

Both Apollo and Jesus temper God's wrath to man. They each
are healers. The rays of light surrounding Jesus are the same
rays used to depict the Sun God, Helios (or Apollo). And of
course, the New Testament was first written in the Greek tongue.
But Apollo was also the bringer of plague. So, like Jesus
Christ, he held the keys to heaven in one hand, and those to hell
in the other. This brings us to the present age, and the present
plague: AIDS. The metering out of plagues is not necessarily an
act of punishment...but may be a tempering of the human soul
that, though exceedingly painful, may deepen our spirits in the
long run.

AIDS is God's judgment...not of homosexuals, but of
straight society. That is: a test to see just how much compassion
heterosexuals shower upon gays as a result of AIDS. I'd say the
track record is poor, and vengeance shall soon be wrought in the
form of a New Passover. The hetero-firstborn of every straight
couple shall be struck dead. A plague will then sweep over this
world, and decimate our populations so that humans won't be so
numerous, and mother nature may heal and breathe freely once
more. The human population will stabilize at one billion.

By then, we will have established a new, and final,
religion that will span the globe to incorporate all different
cultures while preserving the uniqueness of each one. It will be
a remarkable fusion of wisdom and love, and revere the homosexual
state as the highest form of human consciousness. It will also
put an end to senseless breeding and overpopulation. Could you
say "Amen" to this? I sure could!

My heavily testosteronized discourse must have offended
most lesbian readers at this point, so it's only fair that I add
another conjecture on behalf of our better sex. That, once the
human race enters the state of mind known to Christians as
"heaven," a whole mirror universe shall reveal itself, where the
supreme deity is Goddess, and her great love is her daughter.
(After all, Hera needed to do something with all that free time,
once Zeus went totally ga-ga for Apollo!)


END OF ESSAY "HOMORELIGIOSITY"

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Ezekiel Krahlin

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On 1997-02-06 scar...@3-cities.com imparted the following delicious
tidbit of wisdom:

>In summation, you appear to be a very bitter, angry man.

Bitter? A normal feeling when living in a society that is far
more homophobic than I thought it would be twenty years ago.
Unfortunately, AIDS contributed in a big way to thwarting the
advances of homosexual civil rights. IMHO, one who does not
harbor some degree of bitterness, based on life's experiences
(whether s/he be homosexual or not), is in denial...as in:
"Ignorance is bliss". Without the spice of bitterness in my
heart, I'd be less capable of better savoring the joy that is
is there, too.

>If your
>family actually does what you imply it does, that's perhaps
>understandable, but I have no reason to be bitter toward my family
>because of that. My family and I have resolved our issues, to
>everyone's satisfaction.

Of course my family does! This is still by far the rule,
rather than the exception in USA kulture. Your replies to my
challenges all reflect an extremely progressive level of family
relations...one that is truly intelligent, sensitive, and
politically away...though not as intelligent as one who is
capable of showing a little more sensitivity than you do.
If you are not lying about your family, you are indeed a very
lucky soul. However, the picture you paint, is more like
something a gay author would describe in the ideal world of
the future...so I have my misgivings about your proclamations.

Yet, in your luckiness, I fear, you have grown unaware and
insensitive to the fact that the majority of same-sex lovers
in our society still live, for most part, under the yoke of
familial (as well as social) degradation, hatred, and
ignorance. From your point of view, anyone with any *less*
kindness that you have known with your family...is bitter, and
has no value in stating a different situation from his own
experiences. You are projecting (in a very snobbish way) your
very minority (though fortunate) experience, on to everyone else
and not looking beyond that.

I have also met numerous gay people who are in denial of the
homophobia among their own families and friends...they
constantly bend over backwards to appease them...and either
act like a stereotypical faggot (the *only* way family can
accept them), or stay totally closeted. And I find these
kinds of folks very infuriating to relate to, even on a plain
conversational level.

In all, though, because of my experiences in my own life and
meeting other same-sex lovers over the years...I conclude that
neither society at large, nor the homophile society itself, is
anywhere near as progressed politically and spiritually, as
they like to think they are.

So I gladly push the envelope...and give further thought on
concepts which many believe are resolved and done, and need no
more consideration. But that's wrong, dead wrong. Being that
the gay rights movement is largely a middle class phenomena,
it also contains the negative trappings of that group:
snobbery being just one (racism and materialism two others).

But your reply is a good start, and I hope we can make a
gentleperson's agreement to disagree.

P.S.: Attached is a uuencoded gif of some scanned news articles about
one of my achievements on behalf of les/gay civil rights.

Ezekiel Krahlin

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Linda

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On Thu, 06 Feb 1997 03:51:43 GMT, ekra...@fog.net (Ezekiel Krahlin)
wrote:

>.....In both the Old and the New Testament, there

>is not one mention of God's wife, mistress, or girlfriend.

Not quite true... "God" impregnated Mary, another man's wife.
So the evidence, as I see it, is indusputable:
A. God is a gigolo.
B. Joseph is a cuckold.
C. Jesus was a bastard.


Daren Mehl

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li...@jersey.net (Linda) writes: > On Thu, 06 Feb 1997 03:51:43 GMT, ekra...@fog.net (Ezekiel Krahlin)
Mary Was not Married to Joeseph. The Holy Spirit impregnated Mary.

BECman

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Daren Mehl wrote:
:
: li...@jersey.net (Linda) writes: > On Thu, 06 Feb 1997 03:51:43 GMT,

Mary was not married to Joseph, *but* she was betrothed to him,
and betrothal was taken very seriously in those days, probably
a lot more seriously than marriage is taken today.

She must have been so clucky and eager to have a child, that she
decided to trot down to the local sperm bank. When she got
there she said:
"I'll have your best sperm, I'll have the sperm of a God"

The doctor gave her a studied look then said:
"alright, just sign this form, and we'll get right to it"

This begs the question:
Which particular BC titty-mag was God reading to help
him 'do the deed' at the sperm bank ?

...and...

Who was the BC Hue Heffner ?
(best guess: Pontiest Pilot)

Graham.

Ezekiel Krahlin

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On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:50 +1000, BECman <bec...@cynergy.com.au>
imparted this delicious tidbit of wisdom:

>This begs the question:
> Which particular BC titty-mag was God reading to help
> him 'do the deed' at the sperm bank ?
>
> ...and...
>
> Who was the BC Hue Heffner ?
> (best guess: Pontiest Pilot)

Oh, you're funny, Graham. Thanks for the laughs!

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