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Lovinmj23

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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During one scene in "The Maltese Falcon," Bogie says to the
still mysterious woman, "I don't mind no reasonable amount
of trouble." I was almost certain the next line would be , "Trouble
always comes to pass." It wasn't, but if Bogie had also said ,"I'm
seeing the real you at last," it would have fit into the context of
the scene. Great movie - betcha Bob got the line directly from it.

Moe

RICHARD LODGE

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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There are lots of movie references on this album aren't there?
I seem to remember finding lots when it first came out.
Isn't "I got troubles, I think maybe you got troubles..." straight from The
Hustler?
R.L

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Dag

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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Lovinmj23 wrote:

> During one scene in "The Maltese Falcon," Bogie says to the
> still mysterious woman, "I don't mind no reasonable amount
> of trouble." I was almost certain the next line would be , "Trouble
> always comes to pass." It wasn't, but if Bogie had also said ,"I'm
> seeing the real you at last," it would have fit into the context of
> the scene. Great movie - betcha Bob got the line directly from it.
>
> Moe

Movies Inside His Head - 16 more lines stolen by Bob Dylan from
films...

1. "I don't mind leaving, I'd just like it to be my idea" -Shane

2. "You can trust me now" -To Have And Have Not

3. "What's wrong with you?' 'Nothing you can't fix" -The Big Sleep

4. "What would a sweetheart like that Hamilton dame be
doing in a dump like this?" -All Through The Night

5. "One day you'll be talking in your sleep and when you
do I wanna be around" -I Wake Up Screaming

6. "I figure maybe we're even. Maybe I'm one up on ya." -Bend Of The
River

7. "You don't know what love means. To you it's just
another four-letter word." -Cat On A Hot Tin Roof

8. "Do you know San Francisco?' 'I've been there to a
party once." -Build My Gallows High"

9. "When you live outside the law, you have to eliminate
dishonesty." -The Line-Up

10. "What happens here tomorrow is on your head not mine" -The Big
Country

11. "The love of a lousy buck" -On The Waterfront

12. Sulu: "How far can we go along with this charade?"
Kirk: "Until we can think our way out."
-The Squire Of Gothos, an episode of Star Trek

13. "It's not a house, dear, it's a home" -Mr Balndings Builds His
Dreamhouse

14. "No gentleman makes love to a servant in his
mother's house." -Sabrina

15. "I've got to move fast - I can't with you around my neck." -Sirocco

16. "I don't know whether I'm too good for you or
you're too good for me." -Sirocco

(from Wanted Man: In Search Of Bob Dylan)
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Shiphour

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>Subject: Re: Empire Burlesque : The Maltese Falcon
>From: Dag <da...@online.no>
>Date: Sat, Nov 14, 1998 11:22 EST
>Message-id: <364DAE27...@online.no>

Five of the sixteen quotes above come from Bogart movies. Add in Moe's, and
it's six out of seventeen, an extraordinarily high percentage, more than a
third.

The New York Times yesterday reported on a Frank Sinatra conference being held
at Hofstra University near New York. One of the papers listed was "From Sam
Spade to Tony Rome: The Bogart Influence on the Sinatra Persona." James Dean
is more often held up as the main influence on the Dylan persona, but maybe
there's a Bogart influence also? Wasn't there a big Bogart revival sometime in
the early 1960s?

Dag

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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Dag wrote:

from "All Across The Telegraph - A Bob Dylan Handbook"

Eight Lines Stolen From Humphrey Bogart Movies And All Used On Empire
Burlesque...

1. "I don't mind a reasonable amount of trouble" -The Maltese Falcon
2. "Don't look for me, I'll see you" -The Maltese Falcon
3. "Think this rain would cool things down, but it don't" -Key Largo
4. "There's some people that you don't forget even if you've only seen
them once" - The Big Sleep
5. "I don't care who loves who...maybe you love me and I maybe I love you"
- The Maltese Falcon
6. "Didn't I take chances?" -Key Largo
7. "We wanna talk to you, Spade." "Well, go ahead and talk" -The Maltese
Falcon
8. "I'll have some rotten nights after I've sent you over, but that'll
pass" -The Maltese Falcon

Maureen & Stephen Scobie

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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And in addition, also from Empire Burlesque,

"I don't mind leaving -- I'd just like it to be my idea."

Alan Ladd in "Shane."


Stephen

Matthew & Mieko Zuckerman

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Nov 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/14/98
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Moe (Lovinmj23 <lovi...@aol.com>) said:
> During one scene in "The Maltese Falcon," Bogie says to the
>still mysterious woman, "I don't mind no reasonable amount
>of trouble." I was almost certain the next line would be , "Trouble
>always comes to pass." It wasn't, but if Bogie had also said ,"I'm
>seeing the real you at last," it would have fit into the context of
>the scene. Great movie - betcha Bob got the line directly from it.

Doesn't stop there either. Other Maltese Falcon/Bogart quotes (courtesy of
Michael Gray and/or John Bauldie) from Empire Burlesque include:

Don't look for me, I'll find you. (Maltese Falcon)

I don't care who loves who... maybe you love me and maybe I love you.
(Maltese Falcon)

"We want to talk to you, Spade." "Well, go ahead and talk." (Maltese Falcon)

I'll have some rotten nights after I've sent you over, but that'll pass.
(Maltese Falcon)

Think this rain would cool things off, but it don't. (Key Largo)

Didn't I take chances? (Key Largo)

There's some people that you don't forget even if you've only seen them

once. (The Big Sleep)

Of course, these are all probably just coincidences.

Matthew

Richard Batey

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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On 14 Nov 1998 16:49:17 GMT, ship...@aol.com (Shiphour) wrote:

>Five of the sixteen quotes above come from Bogart movies. Add in Moe's, and
>it's six out of seventeen, an extraordinarily high percentage, more than a
>third.

Not that the following has any direct Dylan involvement, but Dylan at the Edge
in Ft Lauderdale is Bogart flavored: http://www.edlis.org/j-card/ftlaud.htm
And the stamp of the formmail is also Bogart:
http://www.edlis.org/j-card/formmail.html

>there's a Bogart influence also? Wasn't there a big Bogart revival sometime in
>the early 1960s?

You couldn't turn on the tv in the early 60s on Sunday afternoon with some great
b/w movie. There was a Bogart Theater on Sunday afternoon on one of the big 3
networks--that's BC (before cable).

Richard


John Howells

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Nov 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/15/98
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lovi...@aol.com (Lovinmj23) writes:

< During one scene in "The Maltese Falcon," Bogie says to the
<still mysterious woman, "I don't mind no reasonable amount
<of trouble." I was almost certain the next line would be , "Trouble
<always comes to pass." It wasn't, but if Bogie had also said ,"I'm
<seeing the real you at last," it would have fit into the context of
<the scene. Great movie - betcha Bob got the line directly from it.

The line is "I don't mind a reasonable amount of trouble", and yes
he got it directly from the movie (which uses verbatim dialogue
direct from the Dashiell Hammett book). Another line from the film
that was used on Empire Burlesque: "don't look for me, I'll see
you". There are others throughout the album as well. "There's some
people that you don't forget, even though you've seen them one time
or two" is very similar to a line in "The Big Sleep" ("there's some
people you don't forget, even if you've just seen them once"). "I
have to move fast, and I can't with you around my neck" is spoken
by Bogart in "Sirocco". I wouldn't be surprised to find that 99%
of the lines on the album came from film noir movies.

--

John Howells
how...@bigfoot.com
http://www.punkhart.com

Glenn Cooper

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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Shaaaaaaane! Cooooome baaaack! Shaaaaaaane!

What a movie!

Glenn C.

John Howells

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Nov 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/23/98
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Here's another one I haven't seen mentioned yet. I just saw "The Big
Sleep" again the other night and the last lines of the movie are:

"What's wrong with you?"
"Nothing you can't fix"

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pwc

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Nov 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/24/98
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The mention of all the movie lines in Empire Burlesque helps the "Tight
Connection" video make a bit more sense to me.


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