Tornado Fuel Saver ????

[kc_f...@my-deja.com]

There's a gadget call the Tornado which installs downstream of the air
filter in most cars and imparts a swirling motion to the air and
supposedly saves gas (7-24%) and increases HP (4-13 HP). The device
sells for $80 shipped.

The website is www.tornadofuelsaver.com

Is it a scam or is there a benefit? Any independent info out there?
Seems like carmakers would already be doing something if it were that
simple.

Thanks

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[Richard S Krause]

SCAM!!!

Rich Krause

[RM]

since air has mass and momentum, anything that causes it to change
direction will cause it to lose velocity. Thus a passive device that
causes air to change direction radically in the intake will slow down
the intake air flow, robbing you of horsepower.

the only possible benefit is that your car might get .0000000000005
better miles per gallon because your wallet is .00004 ounces lighter
($20 x4).

[Joe J.]

kc_f...@my-deja.com wrote in message <91ofns$eq4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

Never tried one but seems a little far fetched to me. Especially for $80.
Looks like it would act more like an undesirable obstruction in the air
intake than help anything. Hmmm, maybe that's where the increased mileage
comes in...less air = less fuel used = less performance?

[George Jefferson]

:Seems like carmakers would already be doing something if it were that
:simple.

you answered your own question.

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[Steve Cutchen]

This intake tornado is crap. It won't work with fuel injected cars...

There's no gas in there to get swirled!!! So it's just swirling air!

What you need is the Tornado Exhaust Gas Management System <tm, US pat. pend.>

It is easy to install, it mounts as an exhaust tip. You can mount it with
ordinary tools you probably have around the garage. Installation is easy.

But this is no ordinary exhaust tip. No way... The Tornado Exhaust Gas
Management System uses the engine's natural gases to create a vortex
breaking swirl of exhaust and air behind the car! The exhaust and air are
controlled by this device to break up the laminar layer of air that sucks
onto the back of the car creating performance degrading and efficiency
sapping drag! Just like those high tech and extremely expensive hull
treatments on the America's Cup yachts, except they're doing it with the
water. And since it mixes the exhaust with air (using the natural energy
contained in the velocity head of the moving exhaust gas) it gets to apply
something like 3 times the gas volume to the job rather than just relying
on the volume of the exhaust gas itself. Your engine has already pumped up
this exhaust gas. Use it to improve your efficiency! Just like with a
turbocharger!

Why do you think your back window gets so dirty? The vortexes behind your
car! They create DRAG! Why do you think race cars draft? To minimize
this vortexing and go faster! The air goes over the second car instead of
vortexing back on the lead car. Less drag, more performance and more fuel
efficiency! This Tornado Exhaust Management System will be guaranteed to
improve your fuel efficiency by between 0 and 37.91% by reducing the
thickness of the laminar flow boundary layer behind your car. That's more
that a 1/3 reduction! One Third!! And it is absolutely guarenteed to work
as well with fuel injected cars as it does with older carbureted cars.

It's not available in stores. But you can buy it directly from me. And
it's ON SALE NOW. If I can get a group of 50 prepaid customers I'll
promise to try for the best deal ever on this breakthrough device, at least
as sold to the general public. (When the military uses these they get a
better deal than I can offer.)

Just send $37.32 to the address you'll receive by return email. No
salesman will call.

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[bi_teendude17]

kc_f...@my-deja.com wrote:

> There's a gadget call the Tornado which installs downstream of the air
> filter in most cars and imparts a swirling motion to the air and
> supposedly saves gas (7-24%)

It sure works provided that you usually drive at 100mph and you promise to
drive at 55mph after the installation of this device.

[Steve Cutchen]

In article <3a4032da...@news.qwest.net>, cra...@juno.com wrote:

> I hereby nominate this as Post of the Year.
>
> Steve, expect to receive your invitation to the annual awards ceremony
> (held in the parking lot of the Pep Boys store in Tuscaloosa, Alabama)
> by special courier soon. Winners will be expected to speak, so the
> still will not be open until after the ceremony.
>
> Crash

I am truly honored...
I'll be there as long as all the boiled peanuts are free...

---Steve

[Don Stauffer]

The thesis of this idea is that the low efficiency of auto
engines is due to a large part of the fuel being unburned.
This is actually false. Only a very small percentage is
unburned during NORMAL operation. The losses are
thermodynamic losses that waste the heat that is produced by
the burning. The need to cool the engine is one loss- every
btu that goes into the radiator is a btu not available to
supply power at the rear wheels.

Today auto makers design very carefully to produce swirl of
the intake charge as it enters the combustion chamber. But
this is to reduce detonation- it is already very well mixed.

Those gadgets that add swirl are a half century old. They
were bunk when first sold, and still bunk.

BTW, when I said normal, that excludes idle, full throttle,
and sudden transient accelerations. There are reasons for
richening mixture during these situations that reduce
efficiency a bit. The swirl inducers would not alter this
fact, however.

--
Don Stauffer in Minneapolis
stau...@gte.net
http://home1.gte.net/stauffer/

[Da Engineer]

I can sell you mine for $30, shipment included.

From my own personal usage of the thing, I'd say it is a scam. But if you're a
fool and his money, I'll sell you mine.

kc_f...@my-deja.com wrote in article <91ofns$eq4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

[Bob May]

Yep, nothing that restricts air flow is going to do anything with
today's engines. The computer will adjust the fuel/air ratio to bring
it back to the proper 14.7 ratio for best smog control. This means
that the only way to improve the milage on a properly running car is
to make the engine turn slower for the speed - less air pumped means
less fuel used.

--
Bob May
Remember that computers do exactly what you tell them to do, not what
you think that you told them!
Bob May

[Bikefixr]

scam. You can twist and twirl the air all you want. How that miniscule motion
will translate fter going through the carb/ throttle body, into a common plenum
or runner assembly, through the runners, around the valve and bowl and into
the chamber.....puhleeease.