Win2k and Partition Magic 7.0
William Adams
with NTFS.
Can I get some advice on how many partitions are recommended and the size
for each?
I have a 40G drive. Can someone advise on how to split it up and into how
many partitions?
Possible Partitions.....
1) Win2k OS
2) Applications
3) Mp3 multimedia and other data
4) Swap File Partition? is this necessary?
5) Temp File Partition? is this necessary?
Also after determining how many partitions and the size... What is the best
way to move files from my original C: drive to these new partitions????
Thanks in advance,
Bill
Dennis Langton
when installing a new or temporary OS. Just don't believe that normal operations require additional partitions.
"William Adams" <william...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:OW6FjRcuBHA.1892@tkmsftngp03...
Joel Rees
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> Also after determining how many partitions and the size... What is the best
> way to move files from my original C: drive to these new partitions????
Partition Magic can also help with moving data and program files, if
you can shrink your C: partition and then make a new partition big
enough to take your files. It will go hunting for drive references and
change them for you, too. But if you do this, don't do it too often.
This kind of magic can backfire pretty easily. If PM hits some kind of
an error in mid stride, you may be left trying to recover your data in
DOS booted from floppy. (If you're lucky. Happened to me while I was
trying to build a partition set for loading openBSD for dualboot.)
Be sure to back up your important data first, anyway. Check your
backups, too. Use the de-frag tool in the disk's properties dialog,
also. If your file system is too disorganized, shrinking a partition
can do some funny things that really slow access down. If you do
shrink a partition, be sure you don't shrink it so far that it ends up
more than half full, even before you start moving folders. The more
free space you leave, the less likely you are to hit something
strange. Don't scrimp on the free space.
When running PM, execute one step at a time. If you leave too many
tasks uncompleted, you raise the window of error.
Have I scared you enough? I personally would back up my obvious data,
get out my app install disks, make a record of what has to be
installed and all the important settings (passwords, etc.), backup my
e-mail files and other non-obvious data, check for other data I might
have missed, and make sure my backups are good. You _need_ to do these
steps anyway, just to be safe. Then, rather than trying to preserve
the original system, I would scrub the disk, partition to suit, and
install from scratch.
(But I never leave anything _really_ important on my internal disks
anyway, and I have played with shrinking, just for fun. Scrubbing and
re-partitioning is probably faster.)
You'll make a base partition for booting up in, then an extended
partition for working in. What I've done is made my base partition
around 3 to 4 GB and load MSW2k in that, keeping my applications
elsewhere. I've seen references here to just loading enough to boot on
the base partition, in a couple of hundred MB or less, but I don't
know how to do that.
Oh, if you don't know what to do with all that space, you might want
to leave an empty partition of about 2 to 10 GB starting from around
the 3.5 GB mark, to install Linux or BSD in and play around. Plain old
empty base partition, Linux and BSD handle their own brand of logical
partitions.
Was that confusing enough?
Joel Rees
William
Doesn't Office share .dll files??
Also, does the swap file automatically use the same partition as the
operating system?
Is 4 Gb enough for the primary drive for win2k and a swap file?
Joel Rees wrote in message ...
>"William Adams" <william...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
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>You'll make a base partition for booting up in, then an extended
CS
>Does MS Office 2000 need to be on the same partition as my Win2k OS?
>Doesn't Office share .dll files??
MS Office will by default install to \program files\microsoft office.
That folder is usually on the same partition as your \winnt folder. I
would let it install there - in other words, use the default. MS
Office shares quite a few DLLs which are located in \winnt\system32.
>Also, does the swap file automatically use the same partition as the
>operating system?
Yes, but it can be changed.
>Is 4 Gb enough for the primary drive for win2k and a swap file?
It should be, although I would create a larger partition to allow for
installation of programs, service packs, etc.
Joel Rees
> Does MS Office 2000 need to be on the same partition as my Win2k OS?
It's not on mine and I haven't had any problems. I don't use it
heavily, however. If you make really heavy use of VB components, I can
imagine a situation where a poorly written component might insist on
Office being on the C: partition or some such. But such poorly written
software should be avoided, I think.
> Doesn't Office share .dll files??
With what? Between dual booted systems? Not that I know of.
With other applications in the running system? Yes.
I have seen some apps that insist on installing things on the boot
partition. Most of the apps seem to install things (DLLs) in the WINNT
directory, which is on the boot partition, even if the app itself is
on a different partition.
Only with poorly written apps, some heritage (16 bit) apps, and alpha
versions do you really need to worry about this.
> Also, does the swap file automatically use the same partition as the
> operating system?
I think so, but I'm not absolutely positive. (Anyone care to confirm
this?)
> Is 4 Gb enough for the primary drive for win2k and a swap file?
I am using 4GB for my primary/boot partition, with a variety of dev
tools on my separate 4GB apps partition. MSW2k and a few apps that
insist on installing in the boot volume take up less than half the
primary partition, leaving plenty of room for swap and temporary junk.
But if you aren't planning to dual boot a second system, I'd go ahead
and give the primary partition plenty of extra. Modern software likes
to have plenty of elbow room. 6 to 8 GB should be plenty for MSW2k.
Joel
Paul Thornett
partition
> with NTFS.
> Can I get some advice on how many partitions are recommended and the
size
> for each?
> I have a 40G drive. Can someone advise on how to split it up and
into how
> many partitions?
> Possible Partitions.....
> 1) Win2k OS
> 2) Applications
> 3) Mp3 multimedia and other data
> 4) Swap File Partition? is this necessary?
> 5) Temp File Partition? is this necessary?
The setup I use on all the machines I control is:
C: contains Windows 2000 stuff - it's around 3Gb, depending on the
size of the page file (which in turn depends partly on how much memory
you have)
D: contains databases and other data, plus Temp, plus Temporary
Internet Files
E: contains applications; this is the drive I install to. I configure
the machine to point to E:\Program Files.
I also try to ensure that apps like Outlook and Outlook Express store
their data into D:\Outlook.
When the system collapses (thanks to Logitech, Iomega, Roxio, and
others too numerous to mention <g>), I can then fairly quickly restore
the C: partition and the E:\Program Files folders, knowing I've not
lost much, if any, data.
With only one physical drive, your paging file should be located in C:
only - any other location will slow your machine down.
Remember to backup properly, and defrag often.
In the early days, I did have partitions for graphics, for documents,
for this database, for that database, etc. This became too complicated
to administer, and there were too many grey areas, where an
application might belong to more than one classification.
> Also after determining how many partitions and the size... What is
the best
> way to move files from my original C: drive to these new
partitions????
Folders on your original C: drive fall into 3 categories:
- OS files (e.g. WinNt files and folders); don't move these,
- Folders into which you have installed software (e.g. Program
Files\...). These can be moved, as long as you change
the registry to reflect the changed drive (and there are utilities
to help you, including one that comes with PM); there may
also be some .ini files that need to be modified.
- Folders which contain programs and/or data, of which the registry is
entirely ignorant; these can safely be moved
--
Paul Thornett
Limey
it has a tendency to duplicate all the files and messages in Outlook.
Been there done that.
Ride safe
Barry
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