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jeremyh

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Mar 14, 2002, 7:23:28 PM3/14/02
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PC gaming sites are reporting that Unreal Tournament 2 is expected to
be released in June (as in 3 months from now!)

Can Westlake comment on whether they're doing the port and when they
expect the Mac port to be out?

I must decide whether I'll be renting or buying a PC in the near
future just for this game. :)

Glenda Adams

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Mar 14, 2002, 7:55:19 PM3/14/02
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In article <eec4151.02031...@posting.google.com>,
jer...@amcc.com (jeremyh) wrote:

> Can Westlake comment on whether they're doing the port and when they
> expect the Mac port to be out?
>
> I must decide whether I'll be renting or buying a PC in the near
> future just for this game. :)

No official news on UT2 Mac. Given the success of UT on the Mac, I
think MacSoft will do everything they can to get UT2 Mac going sometime.

--
Glenda Adams
President, Westlake Interactive (http://www.westlakeinteractive.com)

Shareware development: Maverick Software (http://homepage.mac.com/mavsftwre)

Glenda Adams

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Mar 14, 2002, 9:05:20 PM3/14/02
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In article <140320021931465213%n...@spam.invalid>,
Keeper of the Purple Twilight <n...@spam.invalid> wrote:

> What about Unreal 2?

Same story.

Ben Hines

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Mar 16, 2002, 7:06:52 AM3/16/02
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In article <gadams-97CF83....@news.jump.net>,
Glenda Adams <gad...@jump.net> wrote:

> In article <140320021931465213%n...@spam.invalid>,
> Keeper of the Purple Twilight <n...@spam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > What about Unreal 2?
>
> Same story.

Hell, if SURVIVOR can make it to the Mac, anything can.

Great year for Mac games.

-B

Harry Al-Shakarchi

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Mar 16, 2002, 12:47:52 PM3/16/02
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In article <160320021030203729%n...@spam.invalid>,

Keeper of the Purple Twilight <n...@spam.invalid> wrote:

> In article
> <bRIMUVEen.hines-7C...@news.bellatlantic.net>, Ben

> When Unreal 2 was first announced, wasn't it stated up front that it
> was PC only? I'm glad that might not be the case, but still...

BTW, Unreal 2 is gonna be renamed Unreal Episode II and Unreal
Tournament 2 will be renamed Unreal Tournament 2003. Infogrames will
announce this Monday.

--
Harry Al-Shakarchi | tomeone at bungie dot org

Magnus Helin

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Mar 16, 2002, 3:55:47 PM3/16/02
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in article tomeone-3797D1...@news1.on.sympatico.ca, Harry
Al-Shakarchi at tom...@bungee.org wrote on 02-03-16 18.47:

> BTW, Unreal 2 is gonna be renamed Unreal Episode II and Unreal
> Tournament 2 will be renamed Unreal Tournament 2003. Infogrames will
> announce this Monday.

Unreal Episode II: Attack of the Skaarj

Sorry, couldn't resist :p
Those titles are almost as lame as George Lucas latest disaster...

--
Magnus "Mayhem" Helin / helin at mac dot com
The more you think the less you act that way

Serge

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Mar 16, 2002, 12:52:18 PM3/16/02
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>>>> What about Unreal 2?
>>>
>>> Same story.
>>
>> Hell, if SURVIVOR can make it to the Mac, anything can.
>>
>> Great year for Mac games.
>
> When Unreal 2 was first announced, wasn't it stated up front that it
> was PC only? I'm glad that might not be the case, but still...
I think it would be great to see UT 2 & U 2 in Mac, but I would be better to
see some new kind of games that are only for PC & Consoles at this moment,
like sports games (FIFA series, Winning Eleven, NBA Live series, etc.),
driving games (Need for speed, Gran Turismo, etc.).

I don't know if Westlake has some plans about porting this kind of stuff for
Mac, but I'm sure lot of Mac Gamers is beginning to be tired of FPS, even if
there are really great games like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament...

Maybe a new step to take for Mac Gaming market ?

Magnus Helin

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Mar 17, 2002, 6:15:56 AM3/17/02
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in article B8B8FE92.5755%se...@mac.com, Serge at se...@mac.com wrote on
02-03-16 18.52:

> I think it would be great to see UT 2 & U 2 in Mac, but I would be better to
> see some new kind of games that are only for PC & Consoles at this moment,
> like sports games (FIFA series, Winning Eleven, NBA Live series, etc.),
> driving games (Need for speed, Gran Turismo, etc.).
>
> I don't know if Westlake has some plans about porting this kind of stuff for
> Mac, but I'm sure lot of Mac Gamers is beginning to be tired of FPS, even if
> there are really great games like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament...
>
> Maybe a new step to take for Mac Gaming market ?

Please understand that Westlake does NOT choose which titles that gets
ported to the Mac, they can only say yes/no to the prjects offered by
publishers such as Aspyr and MacSoft. If they don't offer any sports or
driving games, Westlake cannot port any.

It's just the way the porting industry works.

Peter Cohen

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Mar 17, 2002, 7:49:53 AM3/17/02
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In article <B8BA397A.BA3%he...@mac.com>, Magnus Helin <he...@mac.com>
wrote:

> Please understand that Westlake does NOT choose which titles that gets
> ported to the Mac, they can only say yes/no to the prjects offered by
> publishers such as Aspyr and MacSoft. If they don't offer any sports or
> driving games, Westlake cannot port any.

The publishers have the overriding authority on what gets licensed for
the Mac and what doesn't, but game publishers *do* take suggestions from
Westlake and other companies they work with about what products *they'd*
like to work on. So letting everyone from the publisher to the porting
company know about what sort of products *you'd* like to buy behooves
everyone in the long run.

--
Peter Cohen (pco...@maccentral.com)
Senior Editor, MacCentral

Ben Hines

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Mar 17, 2002, 12:49:47 PM3/17/02
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In article <tomeone-3797D1...@news1.on.sympatico.ca>,
Harry Al-Shakarchi <tom...@bungee.org> wrote:

> BTW, Unreal 2 is gonna be renamed Unreal Episode II and Unreal
> Tournament 2 will be renamed Unreal Tournament 2003. Infogrames will
> announce this Monday.

Am i the only one who thinks putting years in the titles of
games/apps/anything is a bad idea?

Better to be creative. Something like Unreal Tournament: Payback or
Unreal Tournament: Death Rally. :) Ok, those suck too, but you get the
idea.

-B

jeremyh

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Mar 18, 2002, 1:59:42 PM3/18/02
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Serge <se...@mac.com> wrote in message news:<B8B8FE92.5755%se...@mac.com>...

Publishers are going to follow the money. Unreal and especially UT on
the Mac were huge. I have no idea what the numbers are, but I can tell
you from simply being "out there" and running into enormous amounts of
Mac users, compared to anything else I've played online, that it was
big. Just about every Mac user I knew bought a copy (including one who
bought two because he lost his first one). UT2 is "money in the bank"
as there are still a ton of Mac users playing UT, with Mac clans (Mac
Addict, OSX), and clans with a number of Mac users (ROBOT, SOB, Rebel
Alliance, Gib Junkies!, just to name a few).

I can only hope that this is a program that gets going soon. If memory
serves, it was two months or so between PC and Mac UT. When I started
UT I was just another n00b on a pub. But now I'm a team leader on the
ladders, and to have all my mates go to UT2 *months* before me would
be quite frustrating to say the least!

Remember Madden football? I bought a copy, but I can only assume not
many others did, otherwise I would think we'd have a lot more sports
games these days.. I would like a hockey game, myself. As far as
driving games go, screaming around in Cro-Mag Racing fits my needs
even if it isn't "realistic" at all. ;)

Serge

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Mar 17, 2002, 10:20:17 AM3/17/02
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>
>> Please understand that Westlake does NOT choose which titles that gets
>> ported to the Mac, they can only say yes/no to the prjects offered by
>> publishers such as Aspyr and MacSoft. If they don't offer any sports or
>> driving games, Westlake cannot port any.
>
> The publishers have the overriding authority on what gets licensed for
> the Mac and what doesn't, but game publishers *do* take suggestions from
> Westlake and other companies they work with about what products *they'd*
> like to work on. So letting everyone from the publisher to the porting
> company know about what sort of products *you'd* like to buy behooves
> everyone in the long run.

That's I think too. Companies like Westlake are closer to gamers than the
publishers, and they probably knows better what gamers really want. As Paul
said, if more people knows what Mac Gamers wants, more chances we've got to
see it on ours screens.

Serge

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Mar 18, 2002, 12:21:12 PM3/18/02
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> If you are tired of FPSes you are in the wrong newsgroup my friend. :-)
>
> No way am I tired of them. Once I am done with Summoner (yes its not an
> FPS) then I have AvP waiting for me. Then I will buy Red Faction. Oh
> then theres No One Lives Forever due soon, AvP 2 due soon.

Saber1, my friend, be more "open mind" to different opinions :)

As you, I loves FPS, I play UT (specially Tactical-Ops) every day a few
hours, but as an Mac gamer, I find it a shame that the only kind of game
that is really "exploited" in our favorite platform are the "action games".
I'm sure that ours Macs can give us more than FPS, much more ... That's all
I'm saying.

Everybody is agree to said that iMac and G4 have great features, specially
for gaming, but the only games that take full advantage of it are mostly
FPS, and that is my point.

I think it would be great that some other kind of 3D games, like sports
games, driving games, etc. start to appear in our screen... I think most of
Mac Gamers agree with this, or no ?

Bob

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Mar 19, 2002, 11:31:50 PM3/19/02
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In article <B8BB9A48.58E5%se...@mac.com>, Serge <se...@mac.com> wrote:

> I think it would be great that some other kind of 3D games, like sports
> games, driving games, etc. start to appear in our screen... I think most of
> Mac Gamers agree with this, or no ?

I guess the agreement would be in the pocket book - have Mac users
bought the sports and driving games that have come out?

(I know I haven't)

Rainer Udelhoven

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Mar 20, 2002, 7:03:16 AM3/20/02
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Serge <se...@mac.com> wrote:

> I find it a shame that the only kind of game
> that is really "exploited" in our favorite platform are the "action games".

-> http://www.macplay.com/games/bg2.shtml

Not exactly an FPS game;-)

Rainer

Serge

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Mar 20, 2002, 11:25:02 AM3/20/02
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in article 1f9chcw.rg36cn1d8bbqrN%R.Ude...@t-online.de, Rainer Udelhoven
at R.Ude...@t-online.de wrote on 20/3/02 08:03:

Rainer, give me more examples like this :D
For actions games you've got (released or going to be released soon): Quake
3, UT, Red Factions, No One Lives for ever, Return to Castle Wolfenstein,
Medal of Honor, Alien vs Predator 2, Halo, etc., etc.
If you take a look at the future releases list from MacGamer.com, you'll see
that 50% aprox. of the titles can be consider action or action/aventure
games !
Am I the only Mac-gamer that loves FPS but would like to see other kind of
games on Mac ??

Bob, asked if "have Mac users bought the sports and driving games that have
come out?"
I think they didn't, but Mac gaming market have changed a lot these last
years. Glenda Adams, Paul Cohen (from Maccentral), Brian Greenstone or
Graeme Devine as mayor figures of this business can all confirm it I'm sure.

Now the Mac market has grown, more mature and Mac gamers are better inform
about gaming too and more Mac-users have become "Mac-Gamers".
Apple also brings us new computers and a new OS that makes ours Macintosh
more "prepared" for gaming than the Mac computers from several years ago, am
I wrong ?

That's why I think now would be a good moment to start seeing "famous games
series" from PC and consoles like the FIFA series, Need for Speed series,
and more, being port to our Mac.
Well, and maybe Counter-Strike... But I don't want to dream about this :D
lol

--
Serge De Oliveira
eMail: se...@mac.com
" Computers are like Air Conditioners,
they don't work when you open Windows"

Peter Cohen

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Mar 21, 2002, 8:36:06 PM3/21/02
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In article <B8BE301E.598D%se...@mac.com>, Serge <se...@mac.com> wrote:

> Now the Mac market has grown, more mature and Mac gamers are better inform
> about gaming too and more Mac-users have become "Mac-Gamers".

Have they really? Mac game publishers have had a few successes here and
there, and games certainly have a higher profile at Apple than they used
to, but games aren't selling *enormously* better than they were a few
years ago.

What has definitely changed is that there is a greater number of games
available to consumers than there were before. The fact that so many of
them are action games shouldn't be surprising; such games tend to get a
lot of publicity and have a lot of public attention.

> Apple also brings us new computers and a new OS that makes ours Macintosh
> more "prepared" for gaming than the Mac computers from several years ago, am
> I wrong ?

No, not exactly, but it's still questionable if the company is bringing
to market machines that can compete with their PC counterparts. Every
time that Apple improves a consumer system like the iMac with better and
faster hardware, it seems like Windows PCs are selling with stuff that's
even faster and better.

Having said that, there's no question that each generation of pro and
consumer Macs is better equipped and better suited for games. Apple *is*
moving in the right direction, just perhaps not at the pace some of us
might prefer.

> That's why I think now would be a good moment to start seeing "famous games
> series" from PC and consoles like the FIFA series, Need for Speed series,
> and more, being port to our Mac.

I certainly wouldn't mind this either, but it's easier said than done.
If for no other reason, contracts take time to sign and execute, and
there's no way around that. Additionally, high-profile licenses don't
come cheap, and that means bigger risk for the Mac publisher.

Omar

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Mar 23, 2002, 5:01:12 AM3/23/02
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The original UT shipped within a month of the PC release. Glenda
supposing you got to port it soon, would such a timeframe still be
possible? I'm anxious to be able to play UT2003 on my Mac for the
summer's frag fests, and I bet most other Mac gamers feel the same... We
don't want to be left out of the summer fun! ;o)

Glenda Adams

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Mar 23, 2002, 9:30:11 AM3/23/02
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In article <player000-ED479...@news.wanadoo.fr>,
Omar <play...@noos.fr> wrote:

UT2003 is a much bigger change from UT than the original UT was from
Unreal. I don't know if a one month or less ship relative to the PC
will be possible. Since my guess is work would start on UT2003 before
it ships for the PC, it would be a closer ship than say 6 months. But
whether that is a month, or 2-3, there isn't a way to know yet.

MacSoft certainly would want to ship as close to the PC version on any
game.

Omar

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Mar 24, 2002, 3:38:11 AM3/24/02
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In article <gadams-2F9F87....@news.jump.net>,
Glenda Adams <gad...@jump.net> wrote:


>
> UT2003 is a much bigger change from UT than the original UT was from
> Unreal. I don't know if a one month or less ship relative to the PC
> will be possible. Since my guess is work would start on UT2003 before
> it ships for the PC, it would be a closer ship than say 6 months. But
> whether that is a month, or 2-3, there isn't a way to know yet.
>
> MacSoft certainly would want to ship as close to the PC version on any
> game.

Well I hope MacSoft gets a deal secured soon then... real soon :o) I
wonder what codename you'll find for that project ... Please mac gaming
gods, give us this game soon :D

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