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soeren wittstock

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Oct 3, 2002, 11:48:14 AM10/3/02
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Hi there!

I've got a small problem in managing font sizes. How can I force the two
browser to show fonts in exact the same size not regarding which size
the user entered as his normal font size in the browser properties.
Is there a possibility to set font sizes in dots in html documents as
usual in Windows?
For example this page http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~wso/menue.html looks
quite different in the other browser. Well it's all in german but I
think you can see what I mean.

Thanks for help!
Soeren

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Webpage Workshop

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Oct 3, 2002, 12:06:18 PM10/3/02
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soeren wittstock stared out of the alt.html window and thought:

> Hi there!

Hi,

> How can I force the two browser to show fonts in exact the same size

Short answer is, you can't. IE is broken in terms of how it displays
font sizes, so even if you could manage to fix the font size in that it
would still be resizable in NS - and even then there are many other
browsers. And even if you could fix the size, some people (quite a lot
of people actually) would get very annoyed if they were unable to read
the text due to the font being too small for their tired eyes :)

HTH

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Jukka K. Korpela

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Oct 3, 2002, 12:06:48 PM10/3/02
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soeren wittstock <soeren.w...@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:

> I've got a small problem in managing font sizes.

Actually, you are creating a big problem.

> How can I force

You cannot, thank &Deity; - though you can do quite some harm while trying.

> the two
> browser to show fonts in exact the same size not regarding which size
> the user entered as his normal font size in the browser properties.

So you would like to force, say, a person who absolutely cannot see text
smaller than 24 points read your page in 10 points size?

> Is there a possibility to set font sizes in dots in html documents as
> usual in Windows?

Using CSS you could try causing such damage. But see
http://css.nu/faq/ciwas-aFAQ.html#QA02

> For example this page http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~wso/menue.html looks
> quite different in the other browser. Well it's all in german but I
> think you can see what I mean.

Doesn't matter. It's unreadable anyway. Suggested reading:
http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~mudws/webhints.html
and in German:
http://www.boku.ac.at/htmleinf/hein.html

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soeren wittstock

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Oct 3, 2002, 12:12:01 PM10/3/02
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Hi again!

Webpage Workshop wrote:

> would get very annoyed if they were unable to read
> the text due to the font being too small for their tired eyes :)

The problem is not being small but being toooooooo big. IE is forced to
create scroll bars because the text flows out of the frame size...

Thanks again and I'll take a look at the css-story.

rmpii

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Oct 3, 2002, 4:56:10 PM10/3/02
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"soeren wittstock" <soeren.w...@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote in message
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> I've got a small problem in managing font sizes. How can I force the two
> browser to show fonts in exact the same size not regarding which size
> the user entered as his normal font size in the browser properties.

If you want a font to be a specific size no matter what, you have to make it
a graphic. Other than that viewers can change it if they want.
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Dan Evans

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Oct 3, 2002, 9:47:09 PM10/3/02
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"soeren wittstock" <soeren.w...@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote in message
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> Hi there!
>
> ... can I force

No

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Mark Jones

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> "soeren wittstock" <soeren.w...@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote in
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> news:3D9C66BE...@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de...
> > Hi there!
> >
> > ... can I force
>
> No
Best response that I have seen in a long time.


Dan Evans

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Oct 4, 2002, 8:26:07 AM10/4/02
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And amazingly true as well.

Isofarro

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Oct 4, 2002, 12:30:36 PM10/4/02
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rmpii wrote:

> If you want a font to be a specific size no matter what, you have to make
> it a graphic.

Nonsense. Monitors have varying dpi so an image on two different montors
will be sized differently. Not all the computing world is stuck in
72dpi-land.


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Eric B. Bednarz

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Oct 4, 2002, 6:24:46 PM10/4/02
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Isofarro:

> rmpii wrote:
>
>> If you want a font to be a specific size no matter what, you have
>> to make it a graphic.
>
> Nonsense. Monitors have varying dpi so an image on two different
> montors will be sized differently. Not all the computing world is
> stuck in 72dpi-land.

Nonsense.-) The HTML spec tells us that CSS defines what a pixel is,
and in CSS it's a relative unit; so *if* the dimensions of an image are
specified by HTML attributes (or CSS) a conforming UA should scale the
image depending on dpi ;-P

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Oct 4, 2002, 9:32:21 PM10/4/02
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"Isofarro" <spam...@spamdetector.co.uk> wrote in message
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> rmpii wrote:
>
> > If you want a font to be a specific size no matter what, you have to
make
> > it a graphic.
>
> Nonsense. Monitors have varying dpi so an image on two different montors
> will be sized differently. Not all the computing world is stuck in
> 72dpi-land.

You can simply use

font-size:1in;

to create 1 inch fonts. Whether they are 1inch on the screen is a different
story, but they will be close on a typical monitor with a typical resolution
for that monitor.

You can size a div by inches eg

<div id="oneinch" style="width:1in;background:black;color:white;"
onclick="alert(this.style.pixelWidth)">Click here to find screen DPI<div>

And use pixelWidth to find the DPI for the screen.

Of course this will not give a physical size of one inch because that is
unpossible, but can be used to give a scaled representation for layout
purposes. There are uses for this.

B.P.


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