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Stan Goodman

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Jun 27, 2001, 4:12:54 AM6/27/01
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Because I am unable to make use of the ADSL service that has recently
appeared here (because the telephone company, in its infinite wisdom,
has chosen to employ the PPtP protocol, which is not available for my
operating system) I am waiting for Cable to offer fast-Internet
service, which should happen in the near future.

I have a Linksys router, which I obtained in expectation that I could
use it for connecting my small LAN to ADSL; it supports PPtP
pass-through, which is not adequate.

My question is: Is it likely that the cable offering too will be
predicated on PPtP? In other words, is there any expectation that I
will be able to get fast Internet service from the Cable provider for
my small LAN?

I have made vigorous efforts to get an answer from the Cable provider,
but verbal queries have been rebuffed, while written ones have been
ignored. The concept of Customer Goodwill is not well grounded here.

What is usual in the Cable/Internet world? Is PPtP the norm there?

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Jens

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Jun 28, 2001, 6:01:38 PM6/28/01
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> Because I am unable to make use of the ADSL service that has recently
> appeared here (because the telephone company, in its infinite wisdom,
> has chosen to employ the PPtP protocol, which is not available for my
> operating system) I am waiting for Cable to offer fast-Internet
> service, which should happen in the near future.
>
> I have a Linksys router, which I obtained in expectation that I could
> use it for connecting my small LAN to ADSL; it supports PPtP
> pass-through, which is not adequate.
>
> My question is: Is it likely that the cable offering too will be
> predicated on PPtP? In other words, is there any expectation that I
> will be able to get fast Internet service from the Cable provider for
> my small LAN?
>
> I have made vigorous efforts to get an answer from the Cable provider,
> but verbal queries have been rebuffed, while written ones have been
> ignored. The concept of Customer Goodwill is not well grounded here.
>
> What is usual in the Cable/Internet world? Is PPtP the norm there?

Are you sure about PPTP ??? PPTP means Point to Point Tunneling Protocol and
is used to make VPN connections with.

Do you mean PPPoE (PPP over EtherNet) ???

:-) Jens


Wayne

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Jun 29, 2001, 3:38:07 AM6/29/01
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What cable company do you have?

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Stan Goodman

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Jun 29, 2001, 4:36:29 AM6/29/01
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:38:07, "Wayne" <wayne...@wayneleake.net>
opined:

> What cable company do you have?

Tevel. Does that help you?

Stan Goodman

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Jun 29, 2001, 4:30:27 AM6/29/01
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:01:38, "Jens" <jjon...@get2net.dk> opined:

Actually, if I had meant to say PPPoE, that is what I would have said.

> :-) Jens

The humor goes over my head, and I hope you will explain it. So far, I
have not seen anything very funny about the way fast Internet access
is developing here.


On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:17:57, h...@burgiss.net (Hal Burgiss) opined:

> On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 00:01:38 +0200, Jens <jjon...@get2net.dk> wrote:
> >
> >Are you sure about PPTP ??? PPTP means Point to Point Tunneling Protocol and
> >is used to make VPN connections with.
>

> Yes, and his modem supports this type of connection. It is PPPoA on the
> WAN side.

My Linksys router does indeed support PPPoE. It does not support PPtP,
which is what Telco requires. Which is why I asked about Cable
practice.

ben...@grobbebol.xs4all.nl

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Jun 29, 2001, 9:49:18 AM6/29/01
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In comp.dcom.xdsl Stan Goodman <l_lu...@da.mob.invalid> wrote:
> I have made vigorous efforts to get an answer from the Cable provider,
> but verbal queries have been rebuffed, while written ones have been
> ignored. The concept of Customer Goodwill is not well grounded here.

> What is usual in the Cable/Internet world? Is PPtP the norm there?

depends on where you live some countries use pptp, others use pppoe.
maybe another one uses roadrunner stuff whatever.

anyways, linksys _seems_ to be busy making pptp in the firmware but will
drop other features because of code space if I understand things right.

If I were you, I'd go back to the place you got it and trade it in for a
different router. It's not said that linksys will never support it; it's
not said that it will do in the near future. of course I hope for
every linksys owner that I am wrong.

there are examples of routers that support pptp via builtin clients (and
that is what you need) -- netgear, draytek and not to forget, the
favourite of mine -- zyxel.

Wayne

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Jun 29, 2001, 4:01:09 PM6/29/01
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Not really. Just that if it was Charter Pipeline or one similar, I might be
able to offer some possible help.
Wonder why they chose a nonstandard protocol...

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Stan Goodman

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Jun 30, 2001, 2:47:37 AM6/30/01
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:01:09, "Wayne" <wayne...@wayneleake.net>
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> Not really. Just that if it was Charter Pipeline or one similar, I might be
> able to offer some possible help.

Do you read signature lines?

> Wonder why they chose a nonstandard protocol...

Apparently it isn't so non-standard, especially if you start with the
assumption that all computers run Microsoft OSs.

Wayne

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Jun 30, 2001, 6:57:41 PM6/30/01
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I often ignore signature lines, as they do not always reflect the actual
ISP being used.
Look at my own signature.
My web site is hosted on another service all together.
I am actually on Charter Net...
And I usually only investigate headers in the case of abuse and spam.

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