Is mini.net sold?
Richard Suchenwirth
mini.net (even if redirected via purl.org), now leads to a page that
says:
COMING SOON!
This domain name was recently registered at register.com
...
Related Search Links:
Mini bike
Mini golf
Mini refrigerator...
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Schoene Gruesse/best regards, Richard Suchenwirth - +49-7531-86 2703
Siemens Dematic AG, PA RC D2, Buecklestr.1-5, 78467 Konstanz,Germany
Personal opinions expressed only unless explicitly stated otherwise.
Arjen Markus
I tried it today and just now:
www.mini.net - Welcome to MINI ...
www.mini.net/tcl - Welcome to the Tclers' WIKI
Regards,
Arjen
Arjen Markus
Oops, you are right:
www.mini.net is the odd one
I actually tried: mini.net (without the www! Did not think it made a
difference ... but it does)
Regards,
Arjen
Bruce Hartweg
"Richard Suchenwirth" <richard.s...@kst.siemens.de> wrote in message news:3BC45E2F...@kst.siemens.de...
> The well-known address for both the Tcler's chat and the Tcl wiki,
> mini.net (even if redirected via purl.org), now leads to a page that
> says:
>
the PURLs have been updated to the direct IPs so they should work now
http://purl.org/mini/tcl/
http://purl.org/mini/cgi-bin/wikit/
Cameron Laird
Arjen Markus <Arjen....@wldelft.nl> wrote:
>Arjen Markus wrote:
>>
>> Richard Suchenwirth wrote:
>> >
>> > The well-known address for both the Tcler's chat and the Tcl wiki,
>> > mini.net (even if redirected via purl.org), now leads to a page that
.
.
There's been a disaster. We're still tracking down
what happened. More urgently, we're working out a
substitute site. Details will appear here as soon
as possible.
--
Cameron Laird <cla...@NeoSoft.com>
Business: http://www.Phaseit.net
Personal: http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/home.html
Phil Ehrens
marketing the mini cooper, and they hijacked the
domain.
Organization:
Bayerische Motoren Werke AG
Dr. Joerg Pohlman
Petuelring 130, Dept. AJ-35
Munich, D-80788
DE
Phone: 49 89 382 349 36
Fax..: 49 89 382 330 50
Email: dom...@bmw.de
Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
Domain Name: MINI.NET
Created on..............: Tue, Jun 04, 1996
Expires on..............: Tue, Jun 03, 2003
Record last updated on..: Wed, Oct 10, 2001
Administrative Contact:
Bayerische Motoren Werke AG
Dr. Joerg Pohlman
Petuelring 130, Dept. AJ-35
Munich, D-80788
DE
Phone: 49 89 382 349 36
Fax..: 49 89 382 330 50
Email: dom...@bmw.de
Technical Contact:
Bayerische Motoren Werke AG
Bernd-Rainer Kottke
Petuelring 130, Dept. FI-40
Munich, D-80788
DE
Phone: 49 89 382-47065
Fax..: 49 89 382-41749
Email: dom...@bmw.de
Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 212-798-9200
Fax..: 212-629-9305
Email: domain-r...@register.com
Cameron Laird
>I can tell you what happened, BMW is going to start
>marketing the mini cooper, and they hijacked the
>domain.
>
> Organization:
> Bayerische Motoren Werke AG
> Dr. Joerg Pohlman
> Petuelring 130, Dept. AJ-35
> Munich, D-80788
> DE
> Phone: 49 89 382 349 36
> Fax..: 49 89 382 330 50
> Email: dom...@bmw.de
.
.
Yeah, yeah, but I consider that only a partial explanation.
"BMW ... hijacked ..." suggests rascality on BMW's part. I
can imagine BMW acted in complete innocence, and that the
criminals here are all at Network Probl--uh, I mean Network
Solutions.
Phil Ehrens
rock ;^)
Did you ever hear of the "BMW performance tune up"?
Under the accelerator pedal of every BMW (at least in
the 70's and 80's, when I cared about such things, before
chipset i.d.'s displaced displacement in my adolescent
mind) is/was a screw with a rubber pad on the top.
When you brought your brand new BMW in for it's first
factory service, and complained "it gets poor mileage",
or "it's not as peppy as I'd hoped", they would say,
"oh, well, we can calibrate the whatsis and I think
make it just like you want"... so they would screw the
screw in a couple turns and the performance was dramatically
improved, or screw it out a few turns and the mileage
was improved.
All it did was limit the pedal travel to a greater or lesser
degree. And that was a "BMW performance tune up".
And I don't think BMW was being disingenuous when they said
"The BMW virtually tunes itself". They just didn't bother
to check their dictionary and they figured you wouldn't
either:
virtually \Vir"tu*al*ly\, adv. In a virtual manner;
in efficacy or effect only, and not actually;
to all intents and purposes; practically.
Hmm, not quite as nice to say "the BMW tunes itself,
at least it seems to, but it does not really do so".
***
Anyway, I sent a very nice letter to BMW asking them to please
host the wiki now that they had, um, acquired the domain.
Address is: "Dr. Joerg Pohlman" <dom...@bmw.de>
I suggest everyone else do the same.
***
Phil
Jeff Hobbs
> In article <9q1qh4$9...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, Phil Ehrens <-@-> wrote:
> >I can tell you what happened, BMW is going to start
> >marketing the mini cooper, and they hijacked the
> >domain.
> >
> > Organization:
> > Bayerische Motoren Werke AG
> > Dr. Joerg Pohlman
> > Petuelring 130, Dept. AJ-35
> > Munich, D-80788
> > DE
> > Phone: 49 89 382 349 36
> > Fax..: 49 89 382 330 50
> > Email: dom...@bmw.de
...
> Yeah, yeah, but I consider that only a partial explanation.
> "BMW ... hijacked ..." suggests rascality on BMW's part. I
> can imagine BMW acted in complete innocence, and that the
> criminals here are all at Network Probl--uh, I mean Network
> Solutions.
Actually, I doubt it. I would suspect that any dns manager at
a corporation that size knows exactly what it is doing. They
had targetted names, and they wanted them. This is unfortunately
too typical in the New Internet.
--
Jeff Hobbs The Tcl Guy
Senior Developer http://www.ActiveState.com/
Tcl Support and Productivity Solutions
Robert Gonzalez
BMW just can't take a domain name if someone else already has it. It was
either sold, or someone did not pay the bill.
rg
Cameron Laird
Robert Gonzalez <no-...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>Wait a minute. How did this happen. I mean, who owned mini.net before?
>BMW just can't take a domain name if someone else already has it. It was
>either sold, or someone did not pay the bill.
.
.
No, that's the one thing on which everyone seems
to agree--sufficiently large corporations *do*
regularly take names, despite exemplary records
of payment by previous owners.
Peter Lewerin
> host the wiki now that they had, um, acquired the domain.
>
> Address is: "Dr. Joerg Pohlman" <dom...@bmw.de>
>
> I suggest everyone else do the same.
People here are most likely mature and civil enough not to need the
following advice, but anyway:
-=< Do not even *think* about sending -nasty- letters. It can *only*
hurt, never help. >=-
Bryan Oakley
--
Bryan Oakley
oak...@bardo.clearlight.com
"Bruce Hartweg" <brha...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:EpZw7.216$RL6....@news.cpqcorp.net...
Phil Ehrens
you are sure that you can run faster than them.
Why don't you want to play Tunnels and Trolls anymore?
I copied my letter to BMW to Cameron, since I knew nobody here
who knew me would trust me to be civil, and I wanted a reliable
witness ;^)
Phil
Phil Ehrens
you are sure that you can run faster than them.
Why don't you want to play Tunnels and Trolls anymore?
I copied my letter to BMW to Cameron, since I knew nobody here
who knew me would trust me to be civil, and I wanted a reliable
witness ;^)
Phil
Phil Ehrens
STUPID STUPID STUPID NEWSERVER!!!!! 441 MY AUNT FANNY!!!
NO VALID GROUP IN comp.lang.tcl MY !@#@#&^#&^#$&^@#$
Andreas Leitgeb
>Three cheers for PURLs!
Until some other large company starts a product named "purl" and
hijacks the purl-domain ?
Reinhard Max
> In article <9q1qh4$9...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, Phil Ehrens <-@-> wrote:
>> Organization:
>> Bayerische Motoren Werke AG
>> Dr. Joerg Pohlman
> Yeah, yeah, but I consider that only a partial explanation.
> "BMW ... hijacked ..." suggests rascality on BMW's part. I
> can imagine BMW acted in complete innocence, and that the
> criminals here are all at Network Probl--uh, I mean Network
> Solutions.
Yes, it seems to be something like that. I just called Dr. Pohlman and
got passed on to an attorney. She said, that they don't know how
mini.net came under their control. She is investigating what happened
and they are willing to give it back, if they obtained it by accident
or illegal action.
*rrrring*
While writing these lines, she called me again and told me that it
indeed was an accident of register.com. If Jean-Claude gets in contact
with Dwain Perry <dpe...@register.com>, and tells him the data for the
whois and DNS databases (the old records have been deleted), mini.net
will be given back to him.
cu
Reinhard
Cameron Laird
>At least, not to anyone you don't know really well and unless
>you are sure that you can run faster than them.
>
>Why don't you want to play Tunnels and Trolls anymore?
>
>I copied my letter to BMW to Cameron, since I knew nobody here
>who knew me would trust me to be civil, and I wanted a reliable
>witness ;^)
.
.
Somehow Phil maintains a higher CL-laughs-per-post ratio
than anyone else. It's not even close.
Phil's letter to BMW was indeed entirely professional.
Frank Pilhofer
>
> While writing these lines, she called me again and told me that it
> indeed was an accident of register.com.
>
See http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hes-11.10.01-000/ for a report
in German language. Rough translation:
BMW: Accidental Domain Grabbing
The loss of of mini.net caused uproar among Tcl developers. The new
owner BMW was under suspicion of having hijacked the address for an
advertising campaign.
Upon questioning by heise online, the automobile manufacturer declared
that their domain registerer Register.com has changed the domain entry
accidentally. The operator had misread a hand-written note, BMW said.
Mini.net was not required by BMW, after all, they are having enough
presence on the Web with Mini.com and other domains to inform customers
about the new Mini Cooper.
After being informed, BMW demanded from register.com the return of the
domain to its original owner, posing a new problem for them: they had
already deleted the old entry and apparently could not contact the
original owner. But in the meantime, the maintainers of the original
site had contacted the registerer after being informed of the diffi-
culties. The site is online again.
Frank.
--
Frank Pilhofer ........................................... f...@fpx.de
Vision is what some people claim they have when they find that
they've guessed correctly. - Alfred E. Neuman
Chris Nelson
>
> Reinhard Max <m...@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > While writing these lines, she called me again and told me that it
> > indeed was an accident of register.com.
> >
>
> See http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hes-11.10.01-000/ for a report
> in German language. Rough translation:
>
> BMW: Accidental Domain Grabbing
>
> The loss of of mini.net caused uproar among Tcl developers. The new
> owner BMW was under suspicion of having hijacked the address for an
> advertising campaign.
So, that's what it takes to get Tcl in the news. ;-)
--
[Bill Gates'] definition of "open" and "innovation" are so divergent
from mine, I have to assume that he might define "protect my privacy" a
bit differently, as well. -- Ralph Barker, HP World, June 2001
Phil Ehrens
Cameron Laird
Chris Nelson <ch...@pinebush.com> wrote:
>> ...
>
>So, that's what it takes to get Tcl in the news. ;-)
.
.
The Chat room had a hilarious scene where a bunch of us
simultaneously figured out this would get more publicity
for Tcl than any positive things that have happened in
the last year. If I really wanted Tcl to be popular, I'd
just leak the (misinformation) that Mr. Osama bin-Laden
uses it in all his tactical implementations.
The hilarious part, I'll explain, was that it had been
obvious for an hour, but all of us were thinking engineer-
ing thoughts. We're easy targets for the true conspiracy
masters.
Incidentally, Reinhard, among others, did heroic work re-
storing mini.net. The Wiki, as usual, is a good source
for more information. 'Everyone know to bookmark <URL:
http://mini.net/tcl/4 >?