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APTurner

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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Brian Sykes, a geneticist at Oxford, conducted a study on
Y-chromosomes from a sample of people with his own surname and found
many who shared the same markers. The technical article appears in
the American Journal of Human Genetics, April 2000, p 1417. Here's
a summary from Reuters.

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000404/sc/science_surnames_1.html

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Charles

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Apr 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/14/00
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Thank you for posting this. It is something I think I want to do in
my family one of these days.... to try to figure out my "same-name"
problem! luv, chas


APTurner

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May 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/11/00
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Bryan Sykes now has a web site http://www.oxfordancestors.com. He
is currently offering mitochondrial DNA analysis; Y-chromosome
analysis will be available later.


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APTurner

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Stan Goodman

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May 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/13/00
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On Thu, 1 Jan 1970 01:59:59, aptu...@aol.com (APTurner) wrote:
>
> Bryan Sykes now has a web site http://www.oxfordancestors.com. He
> is currently offering mitochondrial DNA analysis; Y-chromosome
> analysis will be available later.


It's a very interesting idea, although (from the map on the site) it
is mostly concerned with family distribution within the UK.

A good name for the project would have been "OxFam". Unfortunate
that it has alreadt been grabbed.


--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

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Stan Goodman

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Lesley Robertson

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Greetings, and I hope you're both over your virus....
since your absence, the s.g.methods posts have started arriving in
duplicate - is it me, or has the group developed an echo?
Lesley Robertson


[ My apologies! In trying to set up the group for Andrew and Tim to
moderate, I introduced a bug that caused duplicate posts to the
newsgroup (but not to the GENMTD-L mailing list).

I've fixed that bug now. Sorry about the inconvenience! -Mod ]


Lesley Robertson <l.a.ro...@stm.tudelft.nl>

APTurner

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gen...@NOSPAMhashkedim.com (Stan Goodman) writes:

>> Bryan Sykes now has a web site http://www.oxfordancestors.com. He
>> is currently offering mitochondrial DNA analysis; Y-chromosome
>> analysis will be available later.
>
>It's a very interesting idea, although (from the map on the site) it
>is mostly concerned with family distribution within the UK.


Yes, but if they give you the actual Y-chromosome "profile," then
any ethnic or surname association could build its own database. I've
seen references to upcoming databases for African-American and
Jewish migration routes.

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William Mills

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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APTurner <aptu...@aol.com> wrote:
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>I viewed the article in the April 2000 issue of Am J Human Genetics
>page 1417. One statement caught my eye "Although a few surnames are
>very common in any population, surveys in Britain and Switzerland
>have shown that MOST PEOPLE HAVE AN UNCOMMON SURNAME [emphasis
>added]. 'Sykes' is typical of indigenous English surnames, in being
>of low overall frequency but have marked local concentrations..."
>
>I suspect the USA might not show such an effect of local
>concentrations, but I wonder if the statement "most people have an
>uncommon surname" would still be true.


It depends on what you mean by uncommon. From the 6-million+ name
sample of the 1990 census <http://www.census.gov/genealogy/names>
the top 500 surnames account for 35.2% of the population. The 500th
most common surname in the sample is Atkins, with 0.023% of the
sample. The top 1000 surnames account for 43.4% of the population,
with the 100th surname, Vang, representing just 0.012%. People
named Smith, the most common surname in the US, make up 1.006% of
the sample.

So over 56% of people in the US have a surname less common than Vang
and over 64% have a surname less common than Atkins. However, some
of the less common surnames don't sound particularly rare: Dougherty
and Andersen at 1022 and 1023, Samuels and Denton at 1214 and 1215,
for example.

Bill

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