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George Hammond

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Jul 14, 2002, 12:56:43 AM7/14/02
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NOTE: This is a copy of a post to 75 religious newsgroups
(all religions).
It is posted here FYI, because the scientific proof
of God happens to be a Relativity theory, and I am a
graduate physicist.
_____________________________________________________________
--
[George Hammond]

To the suffering wretched poor of the World

I have a message of immediate hope to the desperate and
suffering poor of the world.

I am not here to talk to the comfortable, the smug, the
overprivileged, the pompous and pedantic mollycoddled
elite of the world.

A scientific proof of God has been discovered by a United
States Physicist (see website below). This miracle will
transform world society overnight, bring about the downfall
of bureaucratic oppression, exploitation, criminal injustice,
and the smug inactivity and unconcern of the elite classes.

For 3 years I have been posting this discovery to the
Physics newsgroups on Usenet, and have been met with nothing
but jeers, ridicule, hate, harassment, abuse and suppression.
The elite classes DO NOT CARE about the welfare of humanity.

There is only one course of action. The poor and the illiterate
of the world must spread the word of this discovery among the
vast suffering masses of the world. By word of mouth if necessary.

It is only after millions of suffering people begin to demand
action by the upper classes and the elite, and the scientists
and academics, that we will finally have the deliverance of
the scientific proof of God and deliverance of humanity from its
chains of poverty and suffering.

I urge you to tell anyone and everyone about the discovery
of a scientific proof of God, and tell them it's on the Internet.
You don't need to understand it to tell someone about it. And,
as a person suffering from poverty and oppression, YOU KNOW
WHAT IT MEANS... it means the power of Religion has finally
been made equal to the power of money and military force.
WE ARE FREE AT LAST
I urge you to spread the word to anyone who will listen,
as soon as possible.
THE WORLD HAS BEEN DELIVERED BY A MIRACLE

Footnote:
My website explains who I am, and a Google search of me will turn
up 9,000 posts by me to the Physics newsgroups. It is no secret
who I am, what I claim as a physicist to have discovered, and what
I am trying to do.
=======================================================
GEORGE HAMMOND'S- SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/index.html
=======================================================

Marco Nelissen

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Jul 14, 2002, 1:21:54 AM7/14/02
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In sci.physics George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:
> NOTE: This is a copy of a post to 75 religious newsgroups

That's commonly called "spamming", and you could very well lose
your account over it...

> My website explains who I am, and a Google search of me will turn
> up 9,000 posts by me to the Physics newsgroups. It is no secret
> who I am, what I claim as a physicist to have discovered, and what
> I am trying to do.

It's also no secret that you are a mental patient, a criminal, and
a crackpot. In fact, it's painfully obvious.

Dr Arm®

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Jul 14, 2002, 1:28:24 AM7/14/02
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Just think, if he were Chinese and doing this in China he'ld be hailed
in the west as a genius.

Ah, the poor luck of birthplace; Eastern genius, American crackpot.

da

George Hammond

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Jul 14, 2002, 1:34:53 AM7/14/02
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Marco Nelissen wrote:
>
> In sci.physics George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:
> > NOTE: This is a copy of a post to 75 religious newsgroups
>
> That's commonly called "spamming", and you could very well lose
> your account over it...

[Hammond]
You're a screwball and a piece of internet filth and scum
too. Probably have a criminal record too don't you.
Any sexual perversion charges? Ever been in jail.
Are you mentally retarded? On parole. Ever been charged
with criminal harassment? Ever been charged with stalking?
The message wasn't crossposted.


>
> > My website explains who I am, and a Google search of me will turn
> > up 9,000 posts by me to the Physics newsgroups. It is no secret
> > who I am, what I claim as a physicist to have discovered, and what
> > I am trying to do.
>
> It's also no secret that you are a mental patient, a criminal, and
> a crackpot. In fact, it's painfully obvious.

[Hammond]
I think your a mental case, a pervert, a stalker, probably
a criminal with a criminal record, may even be wanted on
outstanding warrents. You are definitely stalking me around and
harassing me. filth, scum, punk, twit,

--
[George Hammond]

Footnote:


My website explains who I am, and a Google search of me will turn
up 9,000 posts by me to the Physics newsgroups. It is no secret
who I am, what I claim as a physicist to have discovered, and what
I am trying to do.

Xcott Craver

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Jul 14, 2002, 1:42:56 AM7/14/02
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George Hammond wrote:

> Marco Nelissen wrote:
>>
>> That's commonly called "spamming", and you could very well lose
>> your account over it...
>
> The message wasn't crossposted.

Of course, it's still spam. We caught a piece of it in
alt.religion.kibology and alt.religion.scientific-proof-of-God,
where it is clearly off-topic.

-X

George Hammond

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Jul 14, 2002, 1:46:28 AM7/14/02
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[Hammond]

A. Posting a notice about a scientific proof of God
to a .religion NG is clearly NOT OFF TOPIC

B. You are not a scientist and are posting spam to
2 Physics groups which makes YOU A SPAMMER


> -X

George Hammond

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Jul 14, 2002, 2:01:16 AM7/14/02
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Xcott Craver wrote:
We caught a piece of it in
> alt.religion.kibology and alt.religion.scientific-proof-of-God,

[Hammond]
there is no such NG a "alt.religion.scientific-proof-of-God"

JWBrittland

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Jul 14, 2002, 2:05:04 AM7/14/02
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"Dr Arm®" <Genuin...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I had to LOL because of how closely this comment resonates with my own
sentiments. How many times I have wondered why it is that people believe
that anything from Asia, no matter how ancient, no matter how ridiculous, is
immediately hailed as something that surpasses modern science. As if, after
two centuries of remarkable achievements in science and medicine, we in the
west are finally privileged to be in possession of these primitive
"secrets." Why do people think that some witchdoctor treatment or herbal
remedy is of any value today just because it was used thousands of years ago
in some technologically backward, scientifically illiterate culture? Another
one that always amused me was how impressed people seemed to be with the
popularity of psychics and UFO's in the Soviet Union. Oh, well as superior
as all of them must be, then these things must certainly be taken more
seriously. Balderdash.

Britt

George Hammond

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Jul 14, 2002, 2:39:22 AM7/14/02
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JWBrittland wrote:
>
> "Dr ArmŽ" <Genuin...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message

[Hammond]
I'm surprised you have such contempt for the uneducated, since
obviously you're only half educated yourself.
And consider this too jerko, the real scientific and scholarly
elite are not to blame for the travesties such as internet
criminality, nor are the Third World wretched... no, it's the fat,
overprivleged, do nothing "leisure class" of the West that is
responsible for it. The real scholars and scientists are in fact
unified with the poor and the oppressed... guys like me, or Newton
and Einstein, studying 16 hours a day all their lives, working and
suffering as much as Third World slaves.... no, I think it's rather
the vicious "leisure class" such as we so much from on the internet
who are the real culprits... and I think the party is just about
over for them, and you.

Dr Arm®

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Jul 14, 2002, 4:34:04 AM7/14/02
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<with harmony and feeling...>

Bang, bang! Maxwell's siler hammer came down, on their heads,

do-doot, do-do-do,

Bang, bang! Maxwell's silver hammer made sure, they were dead!

Doot, do.

da

Dr Arm®

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Jul 14, 2002, 4:36:25 AM7/14/02
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Actually, one of the few places where it possibly would be on-topic, if
anywhere, is alt.religion.scientific-proof-of-God,

da

Dr Arm®

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Jul 14, 2002, 4:37:04 AM7/14/02
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Might be a good time to start one.

Cardinal Chunder

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Jul 14, 2002, 8:11:51 AM7/14/02
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George Hammond wrote:
> NOTE: This is a copy of a post to 75 religious newsgroups
> (all religions).
> It is posted here FYI, because the scientific proof
> of God happens to be a Relativity theory, and I am a
> graduate physicist.

All the information required to spank Mr Crazy can be found here.

https://securebb.att.com/services/products/SecuritySpam.jhtml

brian0918

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Jul 14, 2002, 9:40:34 AM7/14/02
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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3D311460...@attbi.com...

I've got an OT question for you George. Why are you posting blank replies
to threads, such as "FTL communication possibility" and "Virtual Part. &
Accelerated Expansion." My guess is that you are either trying to raise
your total post count, or making it so that anyone who searches through your
posts on Google will see that you have posted in physics' topics that sound
"advanced" or at least advanced to you. You don't want people thinking you
only post in threads that you start or that are directed towards you. Am I
right? Can I get a straightforward answer please? If it is simply that you
accidentally clicked "Send" before typing anything, I'll understand.


Xcott Craver

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Jul 14, 2002, 10:37:35 AM7/14/02
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George Hammond wrote:
> [Hammond]
>
> A. Posting a notice about a scientific proof of God
> to a .religion NG is clearly NOT OFF TOPIC

It's not OFF-TOPICness that makes it spam. What makes
it spam is the sheer number of newsgroups to which you
posted your message.

Spam also tends to be of the form of an advertisement or
announcement, rather than part of a thread of conversation.

> B. You are not a scientist and are posting spam to
> 2 Physics groups which makes YOU A SPAMMER

No, 2 newsgroups isn't spam.

Admittedly, you weren't trying to sell anyone anything;
just telling the poor of the world that they MUST
now wander the world telling people about your proof of
God, free of charge.
-X

[And illiterate people. I liked the written instructions
for illiterate people.]

Xcott Craver

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Jul 14, 2002, 10:55:34 AM7/14/02
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JWBrittland wrote:
> "Dr ArmŽ" <Genuin...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Just think, if he were Chinese and doing this in China he'ld be
>> hailed in the west as a genius.
>
> I had to LOL because of how closely this comment resonates with my
> own sentiments. How many times I have wondered why it is that people
> believe that anything from Asia, no matter how ancient, no matter how
> ridiculous, is immediately hailed as something that surpasses modern
> science.

Just imagine if acupuncture was invented in the west, and
bloodletting was invented in the east. Acupuncture would be
derided as a savage practice with violent Freudian overtones (all
those needles, stabbing people, obviously invented by angry men.)
Meanwhile, bloodletting emphasizes a cycle of flow and
"heals the whole body," by fixing systemic imbalances.

Actually, it isn't uncommon for some postmodernists to ignore
history and ascribe whatever they don't like to western culture
and declare what they do like as "Eastern." This tactic is often
incredibly insulting to Eastern cultures.

-X

George Hammond

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:06:40 AM7/14/02
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________________________________________________
Note: The original message to which this thread
refers may be seen at:
http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
________________________________________________

Dr ArmŽ wrote:

<snip>

George Hammond

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________________________________________________

Xcott Craver wrote:

<snip>

George Hammond

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________________________________________________

Xcott Craver wrote:

<snip>

=======================================================

Charlie Fields

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:15:49 AM7/14/02
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George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D310542...@attbi.com>...

> NOTE: This is a copy of a post to 75 religious newsgroups
> (all religions).
> It is posted here FYI, because the scientific proof
> of God happens to be a Relativity theory, and I am a
> graduate physicist.
> _____________________________________________________________
> --
> [George Hammond]
>
> To the suffering wretched poor of the World
>
> I have a message of immediate hope to the desperate and
> suffering poor of the world.
>
> I am not here to talk to the comfortable, the smug, the
> overprivileged, the pompous and pedantic mollycoddled
> elite of the world.
>
> A scientific proof of God has been discovered by a United
> States Physicist (see website below). This miracle will
> transform world society overnight, bring about the downfall
> of bureaucratic oppression, exploitation, criminal injustice,
> and the smug inactivity and unconcern of the elite classes.

You "discovered" this when? A few years ago? "Overnight" has long
since come and gone. Did any of these transformations happen?

>
> For 3 years I have been posting this discovery to the
> Physics newsgroups on Usenet, and have been met with nothing
> but jeers, ridicule, hate, harassment, abuse and suppression.
> The elite classes DO NOT CARE about the welfare of humanity.
>
> There is only one course of action. The poor and the illiterate
> of the world must spread the word of this discovery among the
> vast suffering masses of the world. By word of mouth if necessary.
>
> It is only after millions of suffering people begin to demand
> action by the upper classes and the elite, and the scientists
> and academics, that we will finally have the deliverance of
> the scientific proof of God and deliverance of humanity from its
> chains of poverty and suffering.

You have neglected to mentioned how getting people to believe you will
have any effect on the quality of their lives.

George Hammond

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:15:55 AM7/14/02
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Note: The original message to which this thread
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http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
________________________________________________

brian0918 wrote:

<snip>

George Hammond

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________________________________________________

[Hammond]
Been there dun that. It's called alt.sci.proof-of-god
and was immediatly over run with spammers, Nimby attacks,
hate mail, kook one liners, pornography advertisements
etc. I no longer post there because it makes too easy
a kook target for people like you.

George Hammond

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http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
________________________________________________

--

George Hammond

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________________________________________________

[Hammond]
Any normal person already knows that... it's for other
directed synchophantic echolalic molly coddled stooges
like you to wonder about it until the wretched masses
over run your surburban home.

--

brian0918

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:28:20 AM7/14/02
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Thanks for showing me that I am right.


George Hammond

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Jul 14, 2002, 11:57:59 AM7/14/02
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brian0918 wrote:
>
> Thanks for showing me that I am right.

GH: don't f--- with the headers, kook harasser

--

George Hammond

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________________________________________________

Cardinal Chunder wrote:

gh: don't f--- with the headers crank, and go
back to Vampire.flonk.flonk where you belong.

--

David A McIntee

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Jul 14, 2002, 12:21:05 PM7/14/02
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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote

> It is posted here FYI, because the scientific proof
> of God happens to be a Relativity theory, and I am a
> graduate physicist.

George will now prove that black is white, and get killed on the next zebra
crossing.


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Cardinal Chunder

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George Hammond wrote:
> Cardinal Chunder wrote:
>
> gh: don't f--- with the headers crank, and go
> back to Vampire.flonk.flonk where you belong.
>
>>https://securebb.att.com/services/products/SecuritySpam.jhtml

Why not? You do.

George Hammond

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________________________________________________

--

Marco Nelissen

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Jul 14, 2002, 12:33:17 PM7/14/02
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In sci.physics George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:
> You're a screwball and a piece of internet filth and scum
> too. Probably have a criminal record too don't you.
> Any sexual perversion charges? Ever been in jail.
> Are you mentally retarded? On parole. Ever been charged
> with criminal harassment? Ever been charged with stalking?

That's a resounding "no" to all those questions.
Have YOU ever been arrested? Been in a mental institution?
Have you ever commited welfare-fraud?

> The message wasn't crossposted.

Multi-posting is even worse.

> I think your a mental case, a pervert, a stalker, probably
> a criminal with a criminal record, may even be wanted on
> outstanding warrents. You are definitely stalking me around and
> harassing me. filth, scum, punk, twit,

Sue me.

Marco Nelissen

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Jul 14, 2002, 12:35:29 PM7/14/02
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In sci.physics George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:
> Note: The original message to which this thread
> refers may be seen at:
> http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
> ________________________________________________
>
> brian0918 wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for showing me that I am right.
>
> GH: don't f--- with the headers, kook harasser

Retard...

=======================================================
Morons of sci.physics
http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcone/sciphysics.html
=======================================================

Mensanator

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Jul 14, 2002, 1:04:45 PM7/14/02
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>Subject: Re: TO THE SUFFERING WRETCHED POOR OF THE WORLD
>From: George Hammond gham...@attbi.com
>Date: 7/14/2002 10:23 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <3D319844...@attbi.com>

So you are now advocating violent revolution?

Are you a traitor in addition to a crackpot?

Rev. Fredric L. Rice

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Jul 13, 2002, 1:19:27 PM7/13/02
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Xenu allowed George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> to write:

>NOTE: This is a copy of a post to 75 religious newsgroups
>(all religions).
>It is posted here FYI, because the scientific proof
>of God happens to be a Relativity theory, and I am a
>graduate physicist.

How utterly insane. With stupid postings like this, you must be a troll.


-- Insane nut rant at http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice
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JWBrittland

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Jul 14, 2002, 4:11:02 AM7/14/02
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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3D311D52...@attbi.com...

> JWBrittland wrote:
> >
> > "Dr ArmŽ" <Genuin...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:3D310C...@Yahoo.com...
> > > Marco Nelissen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In sci.physics George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:
> > > > > NOTE: This is a copy of a post to 75 religious newsgroups
> > > >
> > > > That's commonly called "spamming", and you could very well lose
> > > > your account over it...
> > > >
> > > > > My website explains who I am, and a Google search of me will
turn
> > > > > up 9,000 posts by me to the Physics newsgroups. It is no secret
> > > > > who I am, what I claim as a physicist to have discovered, and what
> > > > > I am trying to do.
> > > >
> > > > It's also no secret that you are a mental patient, a criminal, and
> > > > a crackpot. In fact, it's painfully obvious.
> > >
> > >
> > > Just think, if he were Chinese and doing this in China he'ld be hailed
> > > in the west as a genius.

George, you do realize that this was under a separate title: "Re: A
Challenge for Sketpics" [sic]? And you do realize that you have altered
headers several times in the last few days. And you do realize that you
reposted threads from other topics into your "Oliver Deepwell is a Nazi"
title, 13 times in a period of 24 minutes. And on top of all of this, you
are the one who squawks about other people messing with headers.

Then you also sling around several obscene insults a day, carry on with
long insulting and defamatory rants--purely ad hominem, including numerous
accusations that are demonstrably false.

When those future generations of Hammond worshippers see all of this, how
will they feel about their idol? Will they have questions about God
choosing such a person to open the gateway to the proof of his existence?
Will they consider you worthy? To the huge masses of people who will not
understand the science you employ, (or the fact that it is irrelevant), how
will you appear? Do you think they will *really* want to have a new gospel
in your honor? I've been collecting. Would you like me to post about a
hundred of your comments from just over the last two weeks so that you can
have an idea of the real legacy of George Hammond, the *man*--as opposed to
George Hammond the discoverer of God?

> > I had to LOL because of how closely this comment resonates with my own
> > sentiments. How many times I have wondered why it is that people
believe
> > that anything from Asia, no matter how ancient, no matter how
ridiculous, is

> > immediately hailed as something that surpasses modern science. As if,
after
> > two centuries of remarkable achievements in science and medicine, we in
the
> > west are finally privileged to be in possession of these primitive
> > "secrets." Why do people think that some witchdoctor treatment or
herbal
> > remedy is of any value today just because it was used thousands of years
ago
> > in some technologically backward, scientifically illiterate culture?
Another
> > one that always amused me was how impressed people seemed to be with the
> > popularity of psychics and UFO's in the Soviet Union. Oh, well as
superior
> > as all of them must be, then these things must certainly be taken more
> > seriously. Balderdash.
> >
> > Britt
>
> [Hammond]
> I'm surprised you have such contempt for the uneducated, since
> obviously you're only half educated yourself.

You are the only one here who has expressed contempt for someone's
education. You express contempt for the scholastic "elite," the scholastic
cadre, and the educated layman. About the only ones you have given a
favorable rating to are the "country bumpkin fundamentalists." No, I don't
have contempt for ignorance, especially when it is simply because people of
a certain historical period could not have know what we know today. But it
does annoy me that Americans find such primitive ignorance (albeit genuine
attempts at wisdom and enlightenment for the times), to be somehow superior
to what we know and understand and the problems we have solved.

> And consider this too jerko, the real scientific and scholarly
> elite are not to blame for the travesties such as internet
> criminality, nor are the Third World wretched... no, it's the fat,
> overprivleged, do nothing "leisure class" of the West

Oh yes, I forgot to mention your contempt for them, too.

>that is
> responsible for it. The real scholars and scientists are in fact
> unified with the poor and the oppressed... guys like me, or Newton
> and Einstein, studying 16 hours a day all their lives, working and
> suffering as much as Third World slaves....

What a shame that Newton and Einstein aren't alive today to see George
Hammond include them in the same class as himself!

> no, I think it's rather
> the vicious "leisure class" such as we so much from on the internet
> who are the real culprits... and I think the party is just about
> over for them, and you.

Just for the record, (and this isn't the first time), are you threatening
me? If so, would you please be specific?

So if you have such contempt for these types, which you have said before,
constitute the vast majority of people on the internet, then why do you
spend so much time here? Are you hoping your SPOG will convert us or are
you just warning us of the impending catastrophe that will result from
masses of people you foresee as believing in SPOG, somehow overrunning the
world and destroying all those who don't believe in your theory? This
would, after all, be consistent with the history of people's fervent faith
in their divine Creator.

Britt

JWBrittland

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"Cardinal Chunder" <c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message
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Someone else made a similar reference from the policies of George's
server. In the site you have posted, above, I think this is the relevant
issue:

"A posting that is excessively cross-posted to a number of different
newsgroups. If the posting is on-topic in all of the newsgroups to which
it's posted, then it may not be considered spam."

George believes he has found sxientific proof of God. I think he could
make a good argument that this is relevant to any religious group. There
are about 135 newsgroups that begin with "alt.religion," alone, on my NG
list.

I don't think anybody can get him on this.

Britt

JWBrittland

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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> Note: The original message to which this thread
> refers may be seen at:
> http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
> ________________________________________________
>
> Cardinal Chunder wrote:
> >
> > George Hammond wrote:
> > > Cardinal Chunder wrote:
> > >
> > > gh: don't f--- with the headers crank, and go
> > > back to Vampire.flonk.flonk where you belong.
> > >
> > >>https://securebb.att.com/services/products/SecuritySpam.jhtml
> >
> > Why not? You do.
>
Actually, George wrote nothing, as has been the case in numerous posts he
has made lately.

George, your behavior is about as mature as the kids who hold down the
<enter> key during group chat sessions. Really impressive stuff for all
your followers to witness--whenever you get any.

Britt


brian0918

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"JWBrittland" <jwbri...@isp01.net> wrote in message
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Ewwww.... Hammondites.... [trying to clear my head of that horrid nightmare
of an image]


Marco Nelissen

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In sci.physics JWBrittland <jwbri...@isp01.net> wrote:
> George believes he has found sxientific proof of God. I think he could
> make a good argument that this is relevant to any religious group. There
> are about 135 newsgroups that begin with "alt.religion," alone, on my NG
> list.

Hammond believes he has found proof of the christian biblical god.
This could be considered off-topic in groups about islam, buddhism,
etcetera. And surely posting in english to a Taiwanese newsgroup is
a no-no as well.

> I don't think anybody can get him on this.

All it really takes is enough complaints. ISPs don't like spammers,
and they don't like being associated with spammers. Hammond is a spammer.

Lizz Holmans

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Jul 14, 2002, 2:46:36 PM7/14/02
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On 14 Jul 2002 18:30:43 GMT, Marco Nelissen <mar...@xs4.xs4all.nl>
wrote:

If he posted it to more that 20 groups, or xposted to more than 400,
it's spam no matter what.

Lizz 'Seth Breidbart to the pink spongy courtesy phone, please'
Holmans

--
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Nanny Ogg

Cardinal Chunder

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JWBrittland wrote:
> I don't think anybody can get him on this.
>
> Britt

I bet there is more than one religious group of those 75 whose charter
expressly forbids "preaching" or "spamming" or "trolling". Even if there
weren't, there are groups in alt.religion.* that have nothing to do with
the existence or non-existence of god.

And even if that weren't so, a reasonable interpretation of the AUP
would see this as a clear case of spamming.

George Black

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"Dr Arm®" <Genuin...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> George Hammond wrote:
> >
> > Xcott Craver wrote:
> > We caught a piece of it in
> > > alt.religion.kibology and alt.religion.scientific-proof-of-God,
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > there is no such NG a "alt.religion.scientific-proof-of-God"
>
>
> Might be a good time to start one.

And then georgie boy could piss off into it and let us get back to the real
nutters


George Hammond

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George Hammond

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TO THE SUFFERING WRETCHED POOR OF THE WORLD

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George Hammond

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George Hammond

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George Hammond

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brian0918 wrote:

> Ewwww.... Hammondites.... [trying to clear my head of that horrid nightmare
> of an image]

[Hammond[
Haaaha ha ha aha ha ha......
Brian you get the humor award of the month for that one....
especially to find it in the middle of this flood of hate mail
posting from the kooks. Jeez... that really IS funny!

David Evens

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 19:46:36 +0100, Lizz Holmans
<di...@jackalope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On 14 Jul 2002 18:30:43 GMT, Marco Nelissen <mar...@xs4.xs4all.nl>
>wrote:
>>In sci.physics JWBrittland <jwbri...@isp01.net> wrote:
>>> George believes he has found sxientific proof of God. I think he could
>>> make a good argument that this is relevant to any religious group. There
>>> are about 135 newsgroups that begin with "alt.religion," alone, on my NG
>>> list.
>>
>>Hammond believes he has found proof of the christian biblical god.
>>This could be considered off-topic in groups about islam, buddhism,
>>etcetera. And surely posting in english to a Taiwanese newsgroup is
>>a no-no as well.
>>
>>> I don't think anybody can get him on this.
>>
>>All it really takes is enough complaints. ISPs don't like spammers,
>>and they don't like being associated with spammers. Hammond is a spammer.
>
>If he posted it to more that 20 groups, or xposted to more than 400,
>it's spam no matter what.

Actually, the REAL reaason he probably posted seperately to the 35
groups he spammed is because most new servers are set to automatically
delete messages crossposted to more than a specified number of groups,
commonly 20 in my experience. (Recall I WORK for an ISP, one of the
others that, like George's and Ken's, is a former @Home ISP.)

Peter Bowditch

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Jul 14, 2002, 7:21:27 PM7/14/02
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George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:

>[George Hammond]
>
>To the suffering wretched poor of the World

Full Canvas Jacket (the unhinged lunatic rant of the week) has been on
holidays. I have had a feeling for some time that George Hammond would
be the person to provide the inspiration for the relaunch.

Congratulations, George, and thank you.

http://www.ratbags.com/ranters/

--
Peter Bowditch pet...@ratbags.com
Mad - Quintessence of the Loon http://www.ratbags.com/loon
Bad - The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Sad - Full Canvas Jacket http://www.ratbags.com/ranters

George Hammond

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Dr Arm®

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George Hammond wrote:
>
> Note: The original message to which this thread
> refers may be seen at:
> http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
> ________________________________________________
>
> brian0918 wrote:
>
> > Ewwww.... Hammondites.... [trying to clear my head of that horrid nightmare
> > of an image]
>


Have Hammond and Spaceman been properly introduced? Maybe Kook-vs-Kook
is the ideal solution to two problems.

da

Spaceman

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>From: Dr Arm® Genuin...@Yahoo.com

>Have Hammond and Spaceman been properly introduced? Maybe Kook-vs-Kook
>is the ideal solution to two problems.

You would be that friggen stupid to think I have anything to
do with a man I laugh at that has no actual force creating his
nonsense.
<LOL>
that's funny,
He is just like you!
and you have no clue!
His God ..
is your God.
<LOL>
James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman
http://www.realspaceman.com

Charlie Fields

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George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D319844...@attbi.com>...

> Note: The original message to which this thread
> refers may be seen at:
> http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
> ________________________________________________
>
> Charlie Fields wrote:
> >
> > George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D310542...@attbi.com>...

> > > NOTE: This is a copy of a post to 75 religious newsgroups
> > > (all religions).
> > > It is posted here FYI, because the scientific proof
> > > of God happens to be a Relativity theory, and I am a
> > > graduate physicist.
> > > _____________________________________________________________
> > > --

> > > [George Hammond]
> > >
> > > To the suffering wretched poor of the World
> > >

It's amazing what an *extraordinary* amount of your time you spend
communicating to people whom you expect not to be able to understand
you AND to whom you are unwilling to explain yourself when they ask
questions.

brian0918

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"Dr Arm®" <Genuin...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I don't think so. It would be like fusion: they would combine to become
Super-Kook.


brian0918

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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3D320470...@attbi.com...

> Note: The original message to which this thread
> refers may be seen at:
> http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
> ________________________________________________
>
> brian0918 wrote:
>
> > Ewwww.... Hammondites.... [trying to clear my head of that horrid
nightmare
> > of an image]
>
> [Hammond[
> Haaaha ha ha aha ha ha......
> Brian you get the humor award of the month for that one....
> especially to find it in the middle of this flood of hate mail
> posting from the kooks. Jeez... that really IS funny!
>
> --

Do I get a trophy, or medal, or some sort of certificate, maybe a gift
certificate good for 20% off my next lobotomy at the local hospital?


brian0918

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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3D320470...@attbi.com...

> Note: The original message to which this thread
> refers may be seen at:
> http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
> ________________________________________________
>
> brian0918 wrote:
>
> > Ewwww.... Hammondites.... [trying to clear my head of that horrid
nightmare
> > of an image]
>
> [Hammond[
> Haaaha ha ha aha ha ha......
> Brian you get the humor award of the month for that one....
> especially to find it in the middle of this flood of hate mail
> posting from the kooks. Jeez... that really IS funny!
>
> --

Do I get a trophy, or medal, or some sort of certificate, maybe a gift

George Hammond

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[Hammond]
Makes you wonder why Einstein is world famous, doesn't it.

JWBrittland

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"Marco Nelissen" <mar...@xs4.xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:agsg0j$2f0$1...@news1.xs4all.nl...

> In sci.physics JWBrittland <jwbri...@isp01.net> wrote:
> > George believes he has found sxientific proof of God. I think he
could
> > make a good argument that this is relevant to any religious group.
There
> > are about 135 newsgroups that begin with "alt.religion," alone, on my NG
> > list.
>
> Hammond believes he has found proof of the christian biblical god.
> This could be considered off-topic in groups about islam, buddhism,
> etcetera. And surely posting in english to a Taiwanese newsgroup is
> a no-no as well.

I noticed a newsgroup titled alt.religon.beavis-n-butthead. I wonder if
he sent one to that group.

> > I don't think anybody can get him on this.
>
> All it really takes is enough complaints. ISPs don't like spammers,
> and they don't like being associated with spammers. Hammond is a spammer.

I remember John Boatwright who constantly crossposted to a Jewish group
and they repeatedly asked him to stop. It went on for months, maybe years.
Anyway, the business of posting to so many groups has its drawbacks for
anyone using one e-mail address. He will probably get lots of mail
concerning his posts. I believe he is confident that most religious people
will welcome his SPOG with open arms. I think he is going to get a rude
awakening. Oh, heck, he's been at this for awhile and has probably gotten
several attempts at rude awakenings, but no kiss from the prince yet, as he
still seems to be asleep and dreaming very vigorously.

Britt


George Hammond

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David Patrick

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I don't see the relevance. Einstein explained his reasoning. If he hadn't
people would just have laughed at him. Just like they are at you. His
reasoning and hypothesis were testable and repeatable. Yours are just
dribble. If you can't be bothered to explain what you have written why
should anyone waste time trying to make sense of it?

David Patrick

Eric Hocking

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Jul 15, 2002, 7:08:04 AM7/15/02
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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
>
> brian0918 wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for showing me that I am right.
>
> GH: don't f--- with the headers, kook harasser

Yeah Brian - stop harrassing the kooks!

--
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"A closed mouth gathers no feet"
"Ignorance is a renewable resource" P.J.O'Rourke
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Cardinal Chunder

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I'm waiting for all these kooks who've "proven" god to band together and
produce a unified theory.

Spaceman

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>From: Cardinal Chunder c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com

>I'm waiting for all these kooks who've "proven" god to band together and
>produce a unified theory.
>
>

Hey screwball Cardinal Chunder head.
Including my name as one of those kooks huh?

Gues what asswipe!

I have no proof of Georges God,
I do have proof of a "physics god" known as the atomic clock
that is worshipped by a bunch of mechanically illiterate fools
like yourself I guess.

Do you always troll on troll posts?
No clue about REAL phsics huh?
trolling is all you have huh?
poor puppy dog.

George Hammond

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Jul 15, 2002, 10:08:23 AM7/15/02
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[Hammond]
Einstein didn't personally explain it to YOU, and neither
am I. Einstein published a paper and wrote a book.
I published a paper and posted a website. That's all you
get kook... you're not worth anything else.

Spaceman

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Jul 15, 2002, 10:18:25 AM7/15/02
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>From: George Hammond gham...@attbi.com

>Einstein didn't personally explain it to YOU, and neither
>am I. Einstein published a paper and wrote a book.

I would rather read Dr Seuss.


>I published a paper and posted a website.

again,
I would rather read Dr Seuss
http://www.seussville.com/seussville/


> That's all you
>get kook... you're not worth anything else.
>


You are the kook George.
spacetime can't be a cause.
your whole theory is based upon magical
force of nothingess.

Wake Up!
relativity is wrong no matter how much you twist it.

Cardinal Chunder

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Jul 15, 2002, 2:12:11 PM7/15/02
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George Hammond wrote:

>
> [Hammond]
> Einstein didn't personally explain it to YOU, and neither
> am I. Einstein published a paper and wrote a book.
> I published a paper and posted a website. That's all you
> get kook... you're not worth anything else.
>

You've had ample opportunity to answer and explain before now.

For a change, how about answering some of the questions? Britt has
recently asked some extremely straightforward questions and yet all you
do is dodge, whine and insult.

Rodney Wan Kanobe

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Jul 15, 2002, 3:09:14 PM7/15/02
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George I have to ask you as one loony to another
this god of yours that you say looks like us.
Did he also evolve from an ape or is it just
coincidence that he also bears a passing
resemblance to an ape.
Odd don't you think?


Laury

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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3D310542...@attbi.com...

| This miracle will
| transform world society overnight, bring about the downfall
| of bureaucratic oppression, exploitation, criminal injustice,

<...>
I waited all night. In fact, I waited two, but don't let on.


George Hammond

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________________________________________________

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________________________________________________

[Hammond]
Thou fool. God created the apes 40,000 years ago
along with Reality, Existence, Time, the Universe,
Fossils, the Big Bang, and Peach fuzz.
Yes, he created the apes 40,000 years ago as part
of "Reality", as the "ancestors of Man".
The creation of "Reality" INCLUDES the Creation
of "time", including a past, present and future.

Sir I think you're quite odd,
I've always been round in the Quad...,
by God

George Hammond

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Charlie Fields

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George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D32D81F...@attbi.com>...

Right. He didn't write innumerable messages to a group of people whose
intellectual abilities he held in contempt, expecting them
nevertheless to understand him and then vindictively refusing to
answer questions when asked. So what part of the analogy is eluding
you?

Cardinal Chunder

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Jul 15, 2002, 4:12:07 PM7/15/02
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George Hammond wrote:

>
> Cardinal Chunder wrote:
>
>>George Hammond wrote:
>>
>>
>>>[Hammond]
>>>Einstein didn't personally explain it to YOU, and neither
>>>am I. Einstein published a paper and wrote a book.
>>>I published a paper and posted a website. That's all you
>>>get kook... you're not worth anything else.
>>>
>>
>>You've had ample opportunity to answer and explain before now.
>>
>>For a change, how about answering some of the questions? Britt has
>>recently asked some extremely straightforward questions and yet all you
>>do is dodge, whine and insult.

You've proven my point. Stop dodging and answer. If you're such a genius
you should have no trouble answering the very simple questions Britt has
asked you.

I suspect you can't and you can't admit you can't. Any rational, sane
person would either answer the questions or concede there are gaping
holes in their supposed theory. But as an egomanical, narcisstic nut
there is no way you can admit that is there? It's so much more
comforting to pretend you never heard the question, locked in your
little fantasy world that your genius will one day be recognized.
Perhaps AUK might name a category after you but that's all the fame you
can ever look forward to.

Dr Arm®

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Jul 15, 2002, 4:17:26 PM7/15/02
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Spaceman wrote:
>
> >From: Cardinal Chunder c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com
>
> >I'm waiting for all these kooks who've "proven" god to band together and
> >produce a unified theory.
> >
> >
>
> Hey screwball Cardinal Chunder head.
> Including my name as one of those kooks huh?
>

Spacedout Driscoll could lead the parade.

Spaceman

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Jul 15, 2002, 4:43:59 PM7/15/02
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>From: Dr Arm® Genuin...@Yahoo.com

>Spacedout Driscoll could lead the parade.

Great physics puke!

Got REAL name?
Or are you really named after a body part?

What kind of moron are you?
Time travel or Clock is God?
Oh wait..
your both too!

your time ship sunk huh?
<LOL>
poor little parrot.
no mo crackers for you.
HA HA!
shove your parrot/osterich head back in the sand
and try to see even an hourglass proves Relativist crap wrong.
poor ignorant puke,
refuse to see your clock God's faults huh?
<LOL>

Chris Warwick

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Jul 15, 2002, 4:44:52 PM7/15/02
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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3D32D81F...@attbi.com...

>
> [Hammond]
> Einstein didn't personally explain it to YOU, and neither
> am I. Einstein published a paper and wrote a book.
> I published a paper and posted a website. That's all you
> get kook... you're not worth anything else.
>

Now this is interesting. I assume GH believes in God and in the truth of
God's messages and teachings. Personally I don't believe in God, or gods,
although I think teaching social behaviour through parables can be a good
idea (if we could only skip the brain-washing).

What I'd like to know is where did God or his messengers teach sentiments
such as "That's all you get kook... you're not worth anything else".

Congratulations GH. It's been very, very entertaining to read you
(mercifully briefly) but you just made it as the first entry in my kill
file - Seeya :-)

Regards
Chris

Chris Warwick

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"Cardinal Chunder" <c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote in message
news:3D332AA0...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com...

>
> You've proven my point. Stop dodging and answer. If you're such a genius
> you should have no trouble answering the very simple questions Britt has
> asked you.
>
> I suspect you can't and you can't admit you can't. Any rational, sane
> person would either answer the questions or concede there are gaping
> holes in their supposed theory. But as an egomanical, narcisstic nut
> there is no way you can admit that is there? It's so much more
> comforting to pretend you never heard the question, locked in your
> little fantasy world that your genius will one day be recognized.
> Perhaps AUK might name a category after you but that's all the fame you
> can ever look forward to.
>

I imagine GH will take this as somehow insulting. I have to say that it
struck me as being pretty much as near to the truth as it's possible to get!


Dr Arm®

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Jul 15, 2002, 6:00:22 PM7/15/02
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Spaceman wrote:
>
> >From: Dr Arm® Genuin...@Yahoo.com
>
> >Spacedout Driscoll could lead the parade.
>
> Great physics puke!
>
> Got REAL name?
> Or are you really named after a body part?
>
> What kind of moron are you?
> Time travel or Clock is God?
> Oh wait..
> your both too!

Oh stop your jumping-up-and-down ranting, ya' little troll, before you
make a hole in the floor and fall through it, never to be heard from
again.

George Hammond

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________________________________________________

Cardinal Chunder wrote:

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George Hammond

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Spaceman

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>From: Dr Arm® Genuin...@Yahoo.com

>Oh stop your jumping-up-and-down ranting, ya' little troll, before you
>make a hole in the floor and fall through it, never to be heard from
>again.

Ya Ok little boy.
whatever you say.
Not..
Moron!

What kind of clue do you have at all?
Usenet troll clues only?
Seek Life sonny boy.
You aint got one now worth my shit.
BYE.

David Patrick

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Jul 15, 2002, 7:09:53 PM7/15/02
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On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, George Hammond wrote:

> David Patrick wrote:
> > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > Makes you wonder why Einstein is world famous, doesn't it.
> >
> > I don't see the relevance. Einstein explained his reasoning. If he hadn't
> > people would just have laughed at him. Just like they are at you. His
> > reasoning and hypothesis were testable and repeatable. Yours are just
> > dribble. If you can't be bothered to explain what you have written why
> > should anyone waste time trying to make sense of it?
> >
> > David Patrick
>
> [Hammond]
> Einstein didn't personally explain it to YOU, and neither
> am I. Einstein published a paper and wrote a book.

Einstein proved it to his peers. And his theories have largely been
vindicated in repeatable experiments. This is where your dribble fails
you. There is nothing there that can be independantly verified.

By the way, the arrogance of even comparing yourself to Einstein is
staggering.

> I published a paper and posted a website. That's all you
> get kook... you're not worth anything else.

You could only compare yourself to Einstein if all he did was go to the
local 'Speakers corner' and declare his theory through a loudhailer at a
bunch of people he considered too stupid to understand it and then stalk
off while refusing to answer questions.

You are the kook with the unverifiable claims. There's no point getting so
irate if people don't hail you a genius.

David Patrick

Lorrill Buyens

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Right before George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> was eaten by cannibals
on Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:23:52 GMT, they issued this poignant cry for
help:

>Charlie Fields wrote:
>>
>> George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D310542...@attbi.com>...

>> > It is only after millions of suffering people begin to demand
>> > action by the upper classes and the elite, and the scientists
>> > and academics, that we will finally have the deliverance of
>> > the scientific proof of God and deliverance of humanity from its
>> > chains of poverty and suffering.
>>
>> You have neglected to mentioned how getting people to believe you will
>> have any effect on the quality of their lives.
>
>[Hammond]
>Any normal person already knows that... it's for other
>directed synchophantic echolalic molly coddled stooges
>like you to wonder about it until the wretched masses
>over run your surburban home.

"Synchophantic?" Does that mean, like, toadying in unison or something?

--
"There can be only one Silly Vampire Programme, and 'It
is I, Count Homogenized' has had that title sewn up since
about 1978..."
- Dave Joll, in rec.arts.drwho

Marco Nelissen

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In sci.physics Lizz Holmans <di...@jackalope.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>All it really takes is enough complaints. ISPs don't like spammers,
>>and they don't like being associated with spammers. Hammond is a spammer.
>
> If he posted it to more that 20 groups, or xposted to more than 400,
> it's spam no matter what.

He posted to 36 newsgroups that I know of, but boasted about posting
to 75 newsgroups, so obviously I missed a few.
If you think <400 crossposts is OK, you are VERY tolerant...

Lizz Holmans

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On 15 Jul 2002 04:30:48 GMT, Marco Nelissen <mar...@xs4.xs4all.nl>
wrote:

It's not just me that thinks that--it's the way spam is cancelled
using the Breidbart index. Check the FAQ for
news.admin.net.abuse-usenet for details.

Lizz 'Ou est le Chris Lewises d'antan?' Holmans

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Nanny Ogg

George Hammond

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Note: The original message to which this thread
refers may be seen at:
http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
________________________________________________

--

George Hammond

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David C. Ullrich

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Jul 16, 2002, 10:02:24 AM7/16/02
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On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:42:02 GMT, George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com>
wrote:

[nothing whatever]

I imagine people have asked previously: What the heck
is the point to the huge number of replies from you that
quote the message you're replying to and say absolutely
nothing in response?


David C. Ullrich

George Hammond

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Jul 16, 2002, 6:04:16 PM7/16/02
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[Hammond]
That's a strategic countermeasure for "header harassment".
You see, professional harassers like to change the headers
in a thread to some harassing statement like "nutcase" or
something like that. Then 15 other people will respond to
it flooding the thread with that "harassment header". So,
what you do is simply repost the message with the original header,
so that more than half of the rubes will respond to the message
bearing the correct header (they're not aware of the vicious hate
harassment going on behind the scenes). Also, when the
thread is contracted, this prevents the top header for sitting
there for weeks with some "harassment header" on it, since
at least every other message in that section of the thread has
the correct header on it.
you should really get more up to date on kook/hate/mail harassment,
and kook hate-harassment strategies currently in vogue on the internet.
Evans, Neilsson, Chunder and a half dozen others are typical kook
harassers engaging in this kind of stalking and harassment.
Either that or buy a helmet.

Cardinal Chunder

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Jul 16, 2002, 7:21:50 PM7/16/02
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George Hammond wrote:
> David C. Ullrich wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:42:02 GMT, George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>[nothing whatever]
>>
>>I imagine people have asked previously: What the heck
>>is the point to the huge number of replies from you that
>>quote the message you're replying to and say absolutely
>>nothing in response?
>>
>>David C. Ullrich
>

> you should really get more up to date on kook/hate/mail harassment,


> and kook hate-harassment strategies currently in vogue on the internet.
> Evans, Neilsson, Chunder and a half dozen others are typical kook
> harassers engaging in this kind of stalking and harassment.
> Either that or buy a helmet.

I guess you're the kind of person who would walk into a pub banging a
drum, screaming at the top of your lungs about god, insult people and
ignore repeated requests to shut up. Then when people calling you a
loony and generally mock your insane behaviour you whine about
harassment. I've news for you, your "harassment" is self inflicted.

If you stop trying to dominate the group with your dribble, stop posting
off topic crap, stop spamming, stop insulting people, start answering
the reasonable questions in a reasonable manner and generally learnt and
obeyed usenet etiquette, much of this so-called harassment would stop.

Until that time, I and doubtless others will feel free to pitch in with
criticism or mockery as and when we see fit. If you don't like it, set
up your own group, forum or mailing list. It's very easy to do and you
could surround yourself with 1 or 2 adoring fans who would never ask
awkward questions or taunt you in public.

Lorrill Buyens

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Jul 16, 2002, 8:31:31 PM7/16/02
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Right before George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> was eaten by cannibals
on Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:39:53 GMT, they issued this poignant cry for
help:

>Rodney Wan Kanobe wrote:


>>
>> George I have to ask you as one loony to another
>> this god of yours that you say looks like us.
>> Did he also evolve from an ape or is it just
>> coincidence that he also bears a passing
>> resemblance to an ape.
>> Odd don't you think?
>
>[Hammond]
> Thou fool. God created the apes 40,000 years ago
>along with Reality, Existence, Time, the Universe,
>Fossils, the Big Bang, and Peach fuzz.

An' dry martinis, an' _Playboy_, an' the Beatles, an'...

George Hammond

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Note: The original message to which this thread
refers may be seen at:
http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/Gospel.html
________________________________________________

--

David Evens

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Jul 17, 2002, 3:16:22 AM7/17/02
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:04:16 GMT, George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com>

wrote:
>David C. Ullrich wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:42:02 GMT, George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [nothing whatever]
>>
>> I imagine people have asked previously: What the heck
>> is the point to the huge number of replies from you that
>> quote the message you're replying to and say absolutely
>> nothing in response?
>>
>> David C. Ullrich
>
>[Hammond]
>That's a strategic countermeasure for "header harassment".
>You see, professional harassers like to change the headers
>in a thread to some harassing statement like "nutcase" or
>something like that. Then 15 other people will respond to
>it flooding the thread with that "harassment header". So,
>what you do is simply repost the message with the original header,
>so that more than half of the rubes will respond to the message
>bearing the correct header (they're not aware of the vicious hate
>harassment going on behind the scenes). Also, when the
>thread is contracted, this prevents the top header for sitting
>there for weeks with some "harassment header" on it, since
>at least every other message in that section of the thread has
>the correct header on it.

This does not explain why you do it in the enourmous number of cases
where you are NOT changuing the headers in the manner you claim to be
doing here.

> you should really get more up to date on kook/hate/mail harassment,
>and kook hate-harassment strategies currently in vogue on the internet.

Like posting replies to messages that do contain any reply.

>Evans, Neilsson, Chunder and a half dozen others are typical kook
>harassers engaging in this kind of stalking and harassment.

Notice that not al the nbames given here are even those of people who
post on any of the newsgroups George spams. George KLNOWS that, of
course, but likes to fabricate things.

Superluminal

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Jul 17, 2002, 3:52:24 AM7/17/02
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George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D310542...@attbi.com>...
> [George Hammond]
>
> To the suffering wretched poor of the World
>
> I have a message of immediate hope to the desperate and
> suffering poor of the world.

When a con man or preacher can no longer convince the rich or
educated, he always resorts to scamming the poor and uneducated. Hey,
they aint worth much but every little bit helps! Huh George!


In your proof of God, do you have a theory of compressed time? I was
wondering how some of the recent 7 million year old hominid finds got
created in 7 days 40,000 years ago. Maybe T=T'/C^2 (substitute time
or truth for T). This science lunacy shows how stupid you really are.
This is sci.physics not physical education. I think you got your
degree in PE class. set-ups, pull-ups and push-ups 101.

Arfur Dogfrey

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Jul 17, 2002, 2:17:47 PM7/17/02
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George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D349936...@attbi.com>...

> David C. Ullrich wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:42:02 GMT, George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > [nothing whatever]
> >
> > I imagine people have asked previously: What the heck
> > is the point to the huge number of replies from you that
> > quote the message you're replying to and say absolutely
> > nothing in response?
> >
> > David C. Ullrich
>
> [Hammond]
> That's a strategic countermeasure for "header harassment".
> You see, professional harassers like to change the headers

"professional harassers" You mean I can make money harassing
people in newsgroups?? Where do I sign up?

Arf!
Arfur

TMG

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Jul 17, 2002, 5:48:16 PM7/17/02
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On 17 Jul 2002 11:17:47 -0700, dogs...@dog.com (Arfur Dogfrey)
wrote:


>"professional harassers" You mean I can make money harassing
>people in newsgroups?? Where do I sign up?
>
>Arf!
>Arfur

No - George uses the term "professional" as meaning "what I want to be
when I grow up".

Please review his claim to being a "professional physicist" for
further clarification (nobody has ever paid George for his
contributions with physics).

mensanator

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Jul 17, 2002, 8:50:54 PM7/17/02
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George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<3D349936...@attbi.com>...
> David C. Ullrich wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:42:02 GMT, George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > [nothing whatever]
> >
> > I imagine people have asked previously: What the heck
> > is the point to the huge number of replies from you that
> > quote the message you're replying to and say absolutely
> > nothing in response?
> >
> > David C. Ullrich
>
> [Hammond]
> That's a strategic countermeasure for "header harassment".
> You see, professional harassers like to change the headers
> in a thread to some harassing statement like "nutcase" or
> something like that. Then 15 other people will respond to
> it flooding the thread with that "harassment header".

Did I do it correctly?

hugh jeffcoat

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Jul 17, 2002, 9:15:25 PM7/17/02
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Then again you could find out which nutless wonder is dispensing all
that libel and viciousness from their anonymous hidey-holes and sue
the shit out of them. It's being done as we speak. Several have
fallen already. History is being made. Alt astrology and perhaps the
entire internet will be changed for the better. The whine will soon
be on the other foot. Who's next ? Keep the line straight, please,
and don't push. We'll get to you all !

George Hammond

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Jul 18, 2002, 1:49:54 AM7/18/02
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[Hammond]
well, OT trivial pursuit nut, there is another matter, and
that is the posting of "Kookie Kutters". Another think kook
harassers like to do is take over a thread and star
chatting about OT material. The purpose of this is to make
it impossible for anyone interested in the original thread
to find out what it is about. In that case what you have
to do is post a "Kookie Kutter" which is a message referencing
a URL at which the original message is stored so they can
find it. Unfortunately, if you post these alone, then the kooks
claim you're "spamming", so, to keep the content of the messages
all different, what yo do is post the Kookie Kutter along
with the previously posted message.
See Kook, by engaging in hour harassment you can end up
getting a complete education in "antikook countermeasures",
sort of like criminals learn all about law in the Jailhouse
Law library.

>
> > you should really get more up to date on kook/hate/mail harassment,
> >and kook hate-harassment strategies currently in vogue on the internet.
>
> Like posting replies to messages that do contain any reply.

GH: This kid of statement is known as "echolalliation" in the
anti-kook business.

>
> >Evans, Neilsson, Chunder and a half dozen others are typical kook
> >harassers engaging in this kind of stalking and harassment.
>
> Notice that not al the nbames given here are even those of people who
> post on any of the newsgroups George spams. George KLNOWS that, of
> course, but likes to fabricate things.

GH: This statement is known as "syncophantic tautology" in
anti-kook, anti-scum-harasser business.
Classifying kook-harasser-scum is very much related
to criminology and law enforcement work, the same
techniques, countermeasures, and classifications hold.


>
> >Either that or buy a helmet.

--

George Hammond

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Jul 18, 2002, 1:50:56 AM7/18/02
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[Hammond]


well, OT trivial pursuit nut, there is another matter, and
that is the posting of "Kookie Kutters". Another think kook
harassers like to do is take over a thread and star
chatting about OT material. The purpose of this is to make
it impossible for anyone interested in the original thread
to find out what it is about. In that case what you have
to do is post a "Kookie Kutter" which is a message referencing
a URL at which the original message is stored so they can
find it. Unfortunately, if you post these alone, then the kooks
claim you're "spamming", so, to keep the content of the messages
all different, what yo do is post the Kookie Kutter along
with the previously posted message.
See Kook, by engaging in hour harassment you can end up
getting a complete education in "antikook countermeasures",
sort of like criminals learn all about law in the Jailhouse
Law library.

>

> > you should really get more up to date on kook/hate/mail harassment,
> >and kook hate-harassment strategies currently in vogue on the internet.
>
> Like posting replies to messages that do contain any reply.

GH: This kid of statement is known as "echolalliation" in the
anti-kook business.

>

> >Evans, Neilsson, Chunder and a half dozen others are typical kook
> >harassers engaging in this kind of stalking and harassment.
>
> Notice that not al the nbames given here are even those of people who
> post on any of the newsgroups George spams. George KLNOWS that, of
> course, but likes to fabricate things.

GH: This statement is known as "syncophantic tautology" in


anti-kook, anti-scum-harasser business.
Classifying kook-harasser-scum is very much related
to criminology and law enforcement work, the same
techniques, countermeasures, and classifications hold.


>

> >Either that or buy a helmet.

--

David Evens

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Jul 18, 2002, 4:28:29 AM7/18/02
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On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 05:50:56 GMT, George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com>
wrote:
[A randomly reposted article.]

Now you must try and explain why you posted the SAME pretrense about
why you spam with as much content as possible.

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