Origin, meaning of name "Enron?"
Daniel P. B. Smith
company name "Enron."
The company was formed in 1985 by the merger of Houston Natural Gas and
InterNorth (of Omaha, Nebraska), and, according to
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/enron/1127125 ,
in 1986 "The company chooses the name Enron after rejecting Interon."
Anyone know what "Enron" is supposed to mean or evoke?
--
Daniel P. B. Smith
Email address: dpbs...@world.std.com
"Lifetime forwarding" address: dpbs...@alum.mit.edu
Robert Lieblich
>
> I can't seem to find anything explaining the origin or meaning of the
> company name "Enron."
>
> The company was formed in 1985 by the merger of Houston Natural Gas and
> InterNorth (of Omaha, Nebraska), and, according to
>
> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/enron/1127125 ,
>
> in 1986 "The company chooses the name Enron after rejecting Interon."
>
> Anyone know what "Enron" is supposed to mean or evoke?
"En" from "energy," "ron" from "electron." By analogy to "Enco,"
which was the name Humble Oil put on its service stations a few
decades ago (pre-Exxon), "En" from "energy," "co" from "company."
I'm pretty sure I'm right about "Enco." The "Enron" derivation is a
guess, but I suspect it's pretty close to the truth.
--
Bob Lieblich
From AUE
Ben Zimmer
"Daniel P. B. Smith" wrote:
>
> I can't seem to find anything explaining the origin or meaning of the
> company name "Enron."
>
> The company was formed in 1985 by the merger of Houston Natural Gas and
> InterNorth (of Omaha, Nebraska), and, according to
>
> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/enron/1127125 ,
>
> in 1986 "The company chooses the name Enron after rejecting Interon."
>
> Anyone know what "Enron" is supposed to mean or evoke?
According to other sites, the original name was "Enteron", which they
rejected after someone looked it up in a dictionary and found out it
means "alimentary canal". They then simply dropped the "-te-".
--Ben
bill b
I'd say the whole mess is a sexual experience that sorta went over the edge.
--
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Good luck!
email: billbinvegas /hotmail dotcom
"Daniel P. B. Smith" <dpbs...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:dpbsmith-E70B66...@news.fu-berlin.de...
Daniel P. B. Smith
Ben Zimmer <bgzi...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
But... but... but...
...then what was "Enteron" supposed to mean or evoke?
Nathanael Thompson
Smith asked:
>
>But... but... but...
>
>...then what was "Enteron" supposed to mean or evoke?
A utility name "Entergy" used to provide us with power, if that helps.
-+-
Nate Thompson
"When in Rome, do as you done in Milledgeville."
--Flannery O'Conner
Polar
Too bad. Considering they're full of shit, the "alimentary
canal" might have been more relevant.
--
Polar
The Sanity Inspector
<Robert....@Verizon.net> shared with usenet this thought:
Trivia: IIRC, "Enco" was for awhile the proposed new name for
Esso, formerly Standard Oil. Then it was discovered that "enco" was
what the Japanese in some provinces called certain types of garbage
trucks. So, the Esso execs used computers to come up with Exxon,
which sounds snappy and meant nothing in any known language.
Obquote:
A language is a dialect that has an army and a navy.
-- Max Weinreich
--
bruce
The dignified don't even enter in the game.
--The Jam
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
> On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 09:30:59 -0600, Ben Zimmer wrote:
[...]
> >According to other sites, the original name was "Enteron", which they
> >rejected after someone looked it up in a dictionary and found out it
> >means "alimentary canal". They then simply dropped the "-te-".
> Too bad. Considering they're full of shit, the "alimentary
> canal" might have been more relevant.
Ahhh, the crazy old cunt "Polar" (who hypocritically rails against
name-calling in the dozens of newsgroups into which she vomits her
insane rants) shows her true color again. Brown, of course.
Shit-brown, to be exact.
--
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
M A L E D I C T A
Santa Rosa, CA 95402, USA
http://www.sonic.net/maledicta/
alohacyberian
<ug0p5usu2evb3s469...@4ax.com>...
> On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 09:30:59 -0600, Ben Zimmer
> <bgzi...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> >"Daniel P. B. Smith" wrote:
> >> I can't seem to find anything explaining the origin or meaning of the
> >> company name "Enron."
> >>
> >
> >According to other sites, the original name was "Enteron", which they
> >rejected after someone looked it up in a dictionary and found out it
> >means "alimentary canal". They then simply dropped the "-te-".
>
> Too bad. Considering they're full of shit, the "alimentary
> canal" might have been more relevant.
>
OBQ:
"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have
to say something."
~ Plato
J. J. Lodder
> In article <3C5C0633...@midway.uchicago.edu>,
> Ben Zimmer <bgzi...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> > "Daniel P. B. Smith" wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't seem to find anything explaining the origin or meaning of the
> > > company name "Enron."
> > >
> > > The company was formed in 1985 by the merger of Houston Natural Gas and
> > > InterNorth (of Omaha, Nebraska), and, according to
> > >
> > > http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/enron/1127125 ,
> > >
> > > in 1986 "The company chooses the name Enron after rejecting Interon."
> > >
> > > Anyone know what "Enron" is supposed to mean or evoke?
> >
> > According to other sites, the original name was "Enteron", which they
> > rejected after someone looked it up in a dictionary and found out it
> > means "alimentary canal". They then simply dropped the "-te-".
> >
> > --Ben
>
> But... but... but...
>
> ...then what was "Enteron" supposed to mean or evoke?
Wern't that the baddies in some BBC puppet series?
Jan
iwasaki
"The Sanity Inspector" <choll...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3c5c96ea...@news.mindspring.com...
> Trivia: IIRC, "Enco" was for awhile the proposed new name for
> Esso, formerly Standard Oil. Then it was discovered that "enco" was
> what the Japanese in some provinces called certain types of garbage
> trucks.
I don't know from the garbage trucks called "enco", but
"enco" means "car breakdown" in Japanese.
> So, the Esso execs used computers to come up with Exxon,
> which sounds snappy and meant nothing in any known language.
>
> Obquote:
> A language is a dialect that has an army and a navy.
What does that mean?
--
Nobuko Iwasaki
James Follett
<am...@sonic.net> writes
>
>Ahhh, the crazy old cunt "Polar" (who hypocritically rails against
>name-calling in the dozens of newsgroups into which she vomits her
>insane rants) shows her true color again. Brown, of course.
>Shit-brown, to be exact.
Ah! Nothing changes. The old rapscallion of Usenet is still around.
Hallo, Rey. Just the bloke I'm after. In a recent flame war in another
newsgroup someone referred to me as: "James Follett -- whose mother swam
out to troopships". I was as chuffed as chaffinch with two tails at that
flame and have it pinned to my wall in 72pt. Now the doubts are setting
in. Was it original, I wonder? Perhaps you could enlighten me please?
--
James Follett Novelist (Callsign G1LXP) http://www.davew.demon.co.uk
jan sand
<alohac...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>Uh, isn't the ailimentary canal in the head and neck, near the ears?
>
>OBQ:
Perhaps you are thinking of the eustachian tube?
Jan Sand
JayThirtyEight
without changing the name. "No va" in Spanish means "Doesn't go."
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You're lucky, Jan, to be on the good side of Charles Riggs.
He'd chastise me for saying that instead of "the eustachian
subway".
--
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Provider of Jots and Tittles
Polar
<am...@sonic.net> wrote:
>Dizzy "Enteron" Polar wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 09:30:59 -0600, Ben Zimmer wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> >According to other sites, the original name was "Enteron", which they
>> >rejected after someone looked it up in a dictionary and found out it
>> >means "alimentary canal". They then simply dropped the "-te-".
>
>> Too bad. Considering they're full of shit, the "alimentary
>> canal" might have been more relevant.
>
>Ahhh, the crazy old cunt "Polar" (who hypocritically rails against
>name-calling in the dozens of newsgroups into which she vomits her
>insane rants) shows her true color again. Brown, of course.
>Shit-brown, to be exact.
Noted, forwarded to [Special Agent]; added to FBI Internet
stalking file.
--
Polar
alohacyberian
<3c5d5869...@news.mindspring.com>...
OBQ:
"Do not think of your faults; still less of others faults; look for what is
good and strong; and try to imitate it. Your faults will drop off like
dead leaves, when their time comes."
~ John Ruskin
alohacyberian
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Polar <sme...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
<dp3r5u0d7bpq7ctr4...@4ax.com>...
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 04:56:08 GMT, "Reinhold (Rey) Aman"
> <am...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >Dizzy "Enteron" Polar wrote:
> >> On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 09:30:59 -0600, Ben Zimmer wrote:
> >[...]
> >[...]
> >> Too bad. Considering they're full of shit, the "alimentary
> >> canal" might have been more relevant.
> >
> >Ahhh, the crazy old cunt "Polar" (who hypocritically rails against
> >name-calling in the dozens of newsgroups into which she vomits her
> >insane rants) shows her true color again. Brown, of course.
> >Shit-brown, to be exact.
>
> Noted, forwarded to [Special Agent]; added to FBI Internet
> stalking file.
> --
> Polar
>
Oh no! Are the paranoids after you again? KM
OBQ:
"Have you learn'd lessons only of those who admired you, and were tender
with you, and stood aside for you?
"Have you not learn'd great lessons from those who reject you and brace
themselves against you? Or who treat you with contempt, or dispute the
passage with you?"
~ Walt Whitman
Conan the Leprechaun
>
> choll...@spamspring.com wrote in 3c5c96ea...@news.mindspring.com...
> >
> > Obquote:
> > A language is a dialect that has an army and a navy.
>
> What does that mean?
Only that power determines the status of a language. Had the Germans
won World War II, Dutch would now be a dialect.
-:-
"What a big sword you have!" cried Shelob, clicking her
mandibles in anticipation. "Why, it's even bigger than
Sauron's was!"
--
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work: gsic...@elity.com
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Flame war! Flame war! Get your tickets here! Front row seats only
$50! Get 'em while they're hot! Flame war! Flame war!
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<!-- Lots to write; nothing to say. -->
Robert Lieblich
>
> jan sand <jan...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
> <3c5d5869...@news.mindspring.com>...
> > On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 10:03:21 GMT, "alohacyberian"
> > <alohac...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Uh, isn't the ailimentary canal in the head and neck, near the ears?
> > >
> > >OBQ:
> >
> > Perhaps you are thinking of the eustachian tube?
> >
> > Jan Sand
> >
> So I was. KM
I once asked Ms. Watson, secretary to a senior partner in the law
firm where I then worked, what canal conducted nutrition through the
human body. When she admitted she couldn't answer, I informed her:
"Alimentary, my dear Watson."
She didn't get it.
--
Bob Lieblich
And that's why I now post such things to AUE
bill b
> "enco" means "car breakdown" in Japanese.
>
I thought it meant shit in Japanese.
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
Forwarded with a copy, I hope, to Attorney General John Ashcroft, the
big boss of the FBI. You know, *that* Mr. Ashcroft about whom you, you
sick old sow, rant and rail in every newsgroup that lets totally insane
70-year-old bitches vomit their bitterness and hatred. You didn't
forget to let the Feds know that I'm a convicted felon, did you?
Why don't you tell us the name of that [Special Agent]? Is he in charge
of e-mail only from truly demented paranoiacs like you, Sara Meric? Or
does he respond to any kind of Internet Kook, including self-proclaimed
victimized, oppressed and stalked insane old Jewesses like you?
Funny that you keep reading and responding to my AUE posts (my
"stalking"), even though you've declared repeatedly that I'm in your
killfile and that you ignore me. You *are* one fuckin' lying sick old
whore, ain't ya.
Speaking of which, if you need help in siccing the FBI, cops, district
attorneys, and other noble protectors of "persecuted" and "stalked" sick
old sows on me, you know whom to e-mail for expert advice.
Oh, I have a suggestion: get a burqa. Considering that you're full of
shit like a _kapores hinkl_ (loosely, the Jewish equivalent of
"Christmas turkey"), when wearing such a garment for cunts of cover,
nobody will see the shit oozing out of your mouth, nostrils and ears.
Bonus: Here's more fun for "Polar" fans:
From: Polar (sme...@mindspring.com)
Subject: Re: "The Jackals Are Wrong"
Newsgroups: soc.history.medieval <------------------ !
Date: 2002-01-29 01:33:05 PST
[...]
>> Could it (horrors!) have anything to do with the Beeb's
>> long, infamous record of politely-concealed Jew hatred?
Is any sane British reader aware of the BBC's "Jew hatred"?
--
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
Ph.D. & Federal Felon
http://www.sonic.net/maledicta/
oco...@neo.lrun.com
I'm writing to you in regard to the Dean Witter branch on Broadway Boulevard
in Tuscon, Arizona. First of all I'd like all you to know that I have been
a customer of Dean Witter for almost twenty years. I have closed all
accounts with Dean Witter as of December 7, 2001 and would like you to know
why? WHY? Why: After the terrible tragedy of September 11th I became very
worried about my investments. I closed out all mutual funds and put my
money in a money market fund for safekeeping while I decided what a safe
investment might be.
In November '01 I went to one of your brokers whose name is Angela Baurly
who had been managing my moeny for approximately two years. I explained to
her that I was very concerned about the safety on my finances. I told her I
wanted my money in goverment bonds. She told me I wouldn't make a high rate
of return. Unfortunately, I let her talk me into going with a company
called Enron. I purchased Enron based on her advice. About three weeks
later I found she put a large amount of money in this company who, as you
know, has committed possible fraud and is being investigated by various
government agencies. I think this was a horrendous choice and shows a clear
lack of judgement.
I am particularly concerned whether Enron stock was being dumped on
unassuming investors by Dean Witter and was wondering if anyone else has had
an experience like this?
If so, please post to this board as I am interested in other people's
interaction with other Dean Witter branches regarding Enron.
Barbara G.
Tuscon, Arizona
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
> In article <3C5CB5...@sonic.net>, Reinhold (Rey) Aman
> <am...@sonic.net> writes
> >Ahhh, the crazy old cunt "Polar" (who hypocritically rails against
> >name-calling in the dozens of newsgroups into which she vomits her
> >insane rants) shows her true color again. Brown, of course.
> >Shit-brown, to be exact.
> Ah! Nothing changes.
Au contraire, mon frčre. Your septuagenarian sex-object "Polar" has
become nuttier than a fruitcake and just as unwanted, old, and moldy.
> The old rapscallion of Usenet is still around.
> Hallo, Rey.
Bonjour, mon vieux.
> Just the bloke I'm after. In a recent flame war in another news-
> group someone referred to me as: "James Follett -- whose mother swam
> out to troopships". I was as chuffed as chaffinch with two tails at
> that flame and have it pinned to my wall in 72pt.
With your new, improved 20/20 RAF eyes, you can use 12-point type again.
> Now the doubts are setting in. Was it original, I wonder?
> Perhaps you could enlighten me please?
It's probably not original, as there are hundreds of such "snaps" around
deriding the adversary's mother or sister. At least three paperbacks of
such mother insults have been published in the last decade alone. If
the ejaculator of that flame is Caucasoid, he most likely got it from a
Negroid source, where this type of insult is part of the culture.
One of my favorites: "Yo' momma like a police station -- dicks goin' in
and out day and night."
So, Jimbo, did your mother indeed swim to meet the troops or did she
ferry her hairy thingy by dinghy?
Nothing personal, bien sūr. Veddy glad to have you back!
--
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
Rottweiler
Daniel P. B. Smith
Thanks in advance for your consideration.
(And to the regulars at alt.q: yes, I'm very, very sorry that I
originally cross-posted my query about the origin of the name Enron. In
my defense, I would point out that it used to be considered bad
Netiquette to post the same message separately to different groups...)
alohacyberian
<3C5DB897...@Verizon.net>...
learned such a thing. You could have answered, "Elementary, my dear
Watson." KM
OBQ:
"The motor-car will help solve the congestion of traffic."
~ A. J. Balfour, c.1910
Charles Riggs
wrote:
That's elementary.
Charles Riggs
Charles Riggs
<tony_co...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>jan sand wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 10:03:21 GMT, "alohacyberian"
>> <alohac...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >Uh, isn't the ailimentary canal in the head and neck, near the ears?
>> >
>> >OBQ:
>>
>> Perhaps you are thinking of the eustachian tube?
>
>You're lucky, Jan, to be on the good side of Charles Riggs.
>He'd chastise me for saying that instead of "the eustachian
>subway".
Cute.
Charles Riggs
rick++
> One of Chevrolet's big money mistakes was marketing the Nova in Mesico
> without changing the name. "No va" in Spanish means "Doesn't go."
Thats an urban myth, like the Eskimos 40 different words for snow.
People, especially native speakers, hear a word in the entirity not components.
The Nova had other image problems in Mexico.
It turns out English has the about the same number of words for different
types of ice & snow as Eskimo. A climber or skier knows most of them.
Exxon's old American name Esso was being used elsewhere and did mean some things
in other languages. There are consulting firms that will check the name and
trademark in forty or so major languages.
Donna L. Bridges
alt.quotations <dpbsmith-C379EE...@news.fu-berlin.de>
"Daniel P. B. Smith" <dpbs...@bellatlantic.net> virtually chirped:
>(And to the regulars at alt.q: yes, I'm very, very sorry that I
>originally cross-posted my query about the origin of the name Enron. In
>my defense, I would point out that it used to be considered bad
>Netiquette to post the same message separately to different groups...)
It still is, actually. However, more & more often we are called to
make decisions between bad choices.
--
DonnaB <*> shallotpeel on Yahoo Msgr 8^>
"The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate
intensity." - WB Yeats
David C Kifer
>
> A little bird told me that on Sun, 03 Feb 2002 21:24:35 -0500, in
> alt.quotations <dpbsmith-C379EE...@news.fu-berlin.de>
> "Daniel P. B. Smith" <dpbs...@bellatlantic.net> virtually chirped:
>
> >(And to the regulars at alt.q: yes, I'm very, very sorry that I
> >originally cross-posted my query about the origin of the name Enron. In
> >my defense, I would point out that it used to be considered bad
> >Netiquette to post the same message separately to different groups...)
>
> It still is, actually. However, more & more often we are called to
> make decisions between bad choices.
I contend that the early case for crossposting was a result of much more
limited bandwidth, and a lot less "flaming" idiots. With the growth of
both of those, the case for separate posting is greater, while the case
for crossposting is less. But I've only been online for five years, some
of the real old-timers need to chime in here, as to why it was once
considered better to crosspost.
If other people are going to talk, conversation becomes impossible.
-- James McNeill Whistler
--
Dave
"Tam multi libri, tam breve tempus!"
(Et brevis pecunia.) [Et breve spatium.]
Donna L. Bridges
alt.quotations <3C5ED9DD...@sky-access.com> David C Kifer
<dki...@sky-access.com> virtually chirped:
>I contend that the early case for crossposting was a result of much more
>limited bandwidth, and a lot less "flaming" idiots. With the growth of
>both of those, the case for separate posting is greater, while the case
>for crossposting is less. But I've only been online for five years, some
>of the real old-timers need to chime in here, as to why it was once
>considered better to crosspost.
Crossposting, whenever it is at all possibly appropriate [which is the
big question now because of idiocy], is MUCH preferred because one's
local Usenet server only has to save it once to their storage media,
usually a hard disk. Bandwidth is still as limited as money & time &
space will allow & Usenet is stored all over the place, not just one
place. The more unnecessary wasteful storage is required, the more
admins are going to be reluctant to add more [quantity] newsgroups, to
fully propagate some newsgroups & to shorten the time they retain what
they do carry. Separate posting of the same post is wrong as ever.
However, if one correctly exercises case-by-case judgment that the
groups involved will prevent the crosspost from being appropriate then
you have to go with the greater of those 2 evils.
--
DonnaB <*> shallotpeel on Yahoo Msgr 8^>
"Every day we live is a priceless gift of God, loaded with
possibilities to learn something new, to gain fresh insights into His
great truths." - Dale Evans Rogers, January, A WOMAN'S BOOK OF DAYS:
Inspiration & Celebration, 1996, Thomas Nelson Publ.
Tom
> "En" from "energy," "ron" from "electron." By analogy to "Enco,"
> which was the name Humble Oil put on its service stations a few
> decades ago (pre-Exxon), "En" from "energy," "co" from "company."
Really kind of silly, when you think of it. What I want to buy from a
generating company is power, not energy. Flow of energy, not a lump. The
distinction is a real one. I once worked out how much energy I used up in
a year. I forget the exact amount, but, delivered in a lump, it would have
been enough to blow my house sky-high.
Of course, "energy" is the buzzword favored by the government. That in
itself seems a compelling reason to avoid it.
Tom Parsons
--
--
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| we get old, but more like ourselves.
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alohacyberian
causes irrelevant responses in the disinterested groups. KM
OBQ:
"No trumpets sound when the important decisions of our life are made.
Destiny is made known silently."
~ Agnes de Mille
--
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Donna L. Bridges <shall...@rcn.com> wrote in article
<uunt5ucauriaequ0b...@4ax.com>...
Donna L. Bridges
alt.quotations <01c1adbf$62786260$64015f0c@KeithMartin>
"alohacyberian" <alohac...@att.net> virtually chirped:
>That's all very well and good - but, cross-posting to unrelated groups
>causes irrelevant responses in the disinterested groups. KM
>OBQ:
>"No trumpets sound when the important decisions of our life are made.
>Destiny is made known silently."
>~ Agnes de Mille
The most pertinent key to this example is not whether the groups are
related to each other or not, but that we are also exhorted to know
the groups we post to. So, if you don't know a group well enough to
know if the crosspost is appropriate, then, it behooves you either NOT
to post to that unknown group at all or to create a specific post for
that unknown group that acknowledges upfront that you don't know the
group but would be interested in an answer that only that group might
have or might have most handy. Either that or to learn enough to know
whether the ideal can be applied.
--
DonnaB <*> shallotpeel on Yahoo Msgr 8^>
"History must speak for itself. A historian is content if he has been
able to shed more light." - William L. Shirer, American author &
journalist (1904-1993)
Jerry Friedman
> without changing the name. "No va" in Spanish means "Doesn't go."
Not true; if you read Spanish, see
<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alt.usage.spanish+Chlewey+Nova&hl=en&selm=20011025132644.06389.00000044%40nso-cq.aol.com&rnum=1>.
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:16:26 +0900, "iwasaki"
> <piano...@mtg.biglobe.ne.jp> wrote:
>
> >
> >"The Sanity Inspector" <choll...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >news:3c5c96ea...@news.mindspring.com...
> >> Trivia: IIRC, "Enco" was for awhile the proposed new name for
> >> Esso, formerly Standard Oil. Then it was discovered that "enco" was
> >> what the Japanese in some provinces called certain types of garbage
> >> trucks.
> >
> >I don't know from the garbage trucks called "enco", but
> >"enco" means "car breakdown" in Japanese.
> >
> >> So, the Esso execs used computers to come up with Exxon,
> >> which sounds snappy and meant nothing in any known language.
Obaue: Good use of the past tense, since (as I'm sure the Sanity
Inspector knows) "exon" now means an expressed section of DNA
separated from other expressed parts of the same genes.
...
--
Jerry Friedman (no quote 'cause I got here from alt.usage.english)
David C Kifer
>
> A little bird told me that on Mon, 04 Feb 2002 13:58:37 -0500, in
> alt.quotations <3C5ED9DD...@sky-access.com> David C Kifer
> <dki...@sky-access.com> virtually chirped:
>
> >I contend that the early case for crossposting was a result of much more
> >limited bandwidth, and a lot less "flaming" idiots. With the growth of
> >both of those, the case for separate posting is greater, while the case
> >for crossposting is less. But I've only been online for five years, some
> >of the real old-timers need to chime in here, as to why it was once
> >considered better to crosspost.
>
> Crossposting, whenever it is at all possibly appropriate [which is the
> big question now because of idiocy], is MUCH preferred because one's
> local Usenet server only has to save it once to their storage media,
> usually a hard disk. Bandwidth is still as limited as money & time &
> space will allow & Usenet is stored all over the place, not just one
> place. The more unnecessary wasteful storage is required, the more
> admins are going to be reluctant to add more [quantity] newsgroups, to
> fully propagate some newsgroups & to shorten the time they retain what
> they do carry. Separate posting of the same post is wrong as ever.
> However, if one correctly exercises case-by-case judgment that the
> groups involved will prevent the crosspost from being appropriate then
> you have to go with the greater of those 2 evils.
Considering that I don't recall EVER seeing a crossposted message that
did not quickly crisp around the edges, I have to vote for separate posts,
if one actually has a question or topic that applies to more than one
group. As it usually appears, they are probably off topic in several of
the groups... This is one of the reasons they flame.
Flamage might be reduced by including a note requesting replies only to
the group it's read in, but most people wouldn't bother clipping the
extra groups, especially the people most likely to flame.
I include here a quote from a post in another group, a local group run
by my news server, having to do with quantity, dated 11 Jan. '02:
> Side note - News transaction traffic went to a net count of 1.2 million
> messages right after the first of the year and 280 gbytes of daily data.
> This is a one month jump of 20% in transactions and a 22% jump in data.
>
> Joe
LarryLard
"J. J. Lodder" <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:1f70x82.169...@de-ster.demon.nl...
> Daniel P. B. Smith <dpbs...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> > ...then what was "Enteron" supposed to mean or evoke?
>
> Wern't that the baddies in some BBC puppet series?
ITYM Mysteron.
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Replies to group please.
Donna L. Bridges
alt.quotations <3C5F7756...@sky-access.com> David C Kifer
<dki...@sky-access.com> virtually chirped:
>Considering that I don't recall EVER seeing a crossposted message that
>did not quickly crisp around the edges, I have to vote for separate posts,
>if one actually has a question or topic that applies to more than one
>group. As it usually appears, they are probably off topic in several of
>the groups... This is one of the reasons they flame.
>Flamage might be reduced by including a note requesting replies only to
>the group it's read in, but most people wouldn't bother clipping the
>extra groups, especially the people most likely to flame.
Well, it's not a vote issue, but, I've never seen an appropriate
crosspost devolve into a flamefest, FWIW. Maybe you've simply never
seen it when it was appropriate. However, if they are off topic in one
of the groups, that in itself prima facie means that it wasn't an
appropriate crosspost! Your own description curls around on itself &
bites its own butt.
--
DonnaB <*> shallotpeel on Yahoo Msgr 8^>
"Ability is commonly found to consist mainly in a high degree of
solemnity." - Ambrose Bierce, in his DEVIL'S DICTIONARY
J. J. Lodder
> "J. J. Lodder" <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote in message
> news:1f70x82.169...@de-ster.demon.nl...
> > Daniel P. B. Smith <dpbs...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
> > > ...then what was "Enteron" supposed to mean or evoke?
> >
> > Wern't that the baddies in some BBC puppet series?
>
> ITYM Mysteron.
Indeed, thanks,
Jan
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 04:56:08 GMT, "Reinhold (Rey) Aman"
> <am...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >Dizzy "Enteron" Polar wrote:
[...]
> >> Too bad. Considering they're full of shit, the "alimentary
> >> canal" might have been more relevant.
> >Ahhh, the crazy old cunt "Polar" (who hypocritically rails against
> >name-calling in the dozens of newsgroups into which she vomits her
> >insane rants) shows her true color again. Brown, of course.
> >Shit-brown, to be exact.
> Noted, forwarded to [Special Agent]; added to FBI Internet
> stalking file.
To Polar's FBI Special Agent
============================
An Open Letter to Sara Meric's (a.k.a. "Polar") anonymous FBI "Special
Agent" in charge of the "FBI Internet stalking file."
Special greetings, Special Agent:
How are you? I am fine, thank you.
From a recent posting to the <alt.usage.english> newsgroup (cross-posted
to two other newsgroups), I understand that your paranoid client "Polar"
is keeping a file of my postings and sends them to you, so that you can
build a case of "cyberstalking" against me and -- as "Polar" hopes --
put me back in the slammer for five years, so that she can continue
unchallenged her vomiting of demented rants into many newsgroups against
almost anyone and anything -- including your bosses, Attorney General
John Ashcroft and President George W. Bush. (Has "Polar" mentioned to
you that she frequently shits on Messrs. Ashcroft and Bush at any chance
she gets? I thought not.)
As you know, I am a convicted felon ("Polar" has certainly told you
about it repeatedly), so you *know* I'm a bad dude. But being the fair
F-Man that you are, I'm certain that you want to know my side too, as
there are facts your client has never told you. And, naturally, you
don't want to act like a 1940s Gestapo bully who comes banging on my
door at 2 a.m., throws me on the floor, handcuffs me, and drags me away
to the next slammer. All that because of some mentally ill old cunt
wants to shut me up -- the third time in my life.
Just what *is* the matter with mentally ill old women and why are they
so *EVIL* and *vicious*? But I digress.
Anyway, dear Special Agent (may I call you "S.A."?), here are a few
facts and opinions about your client "Polar" who has been passing on my
posts to you (even though that filthy liar insists publicly that she
does not read my posts and ignores me).
"Polar" (her real name is Sara Meric) is a very old and bitter woman, in
her seventies, with no social life. There's evidence of severe mental
illness in her family (according to her newsgroup blabberings), so
kindly take what you hear from that sick old fuck with a fistful of
salt.
From her posts it can be seen that she is genuinely paranoid, another
point you may want to keep in mind, dear S.A.
She feels "victimized" because she's (1) a woman and (2) a Jewess, as
per her posts: another item to consider.
She feels "oppressed" by men because she's only a woman, and she
frequently rants against us men in various newsgroups.
She claims that I am "cyberstalking" her. Naturally she's full of
shit. All my posts involving "Polar" are posted ONLY in AUE
<alt.usage.english>, with occasional cross-posting by the original
poster maintained or a courtesy cross-posting added by me to AEU
<alt.english.usage>, one of the many newsgroups she haunts.
That's not "cyberstalking," dear S.A., regardless of how you or your
insane client "Polar" want to twist the meaning. I've read the
Honorable Attorney General's Report and dozens of other legal or
explanatory sites about "cyberstalking" and know therefore that I'm not
committing any federal or state crime by responding in AUE to that
mentally ill old woman who rants about and vomits her insanities
wherever she feels like but who can't stand it if someone contradicts
her or exposes some of her lies and insanities.
There's *never* any kind of threat -- expressed or implied -- in my
replies to that sick old cunt "Polar," because threats are a no-no in
Cyberland and in the real world, and you Feds are pretty good at nailing
people who transmit threats of any kind (even if the alleged threats are
not actionable threats as defined by law, but that's another story).
Anyway, your insane old client "Polar" keeps libeling me that I
"cyberstalk" her and follow her around in the many newsgroups she vomits
into. Fact is, I ONLY *read* her posts via the "Google Usenet Search"
function that lists all her posts in all the groups she defiles, but I
do NOT respond elsewhere. Please do tell me, dear S.A., is reading
public information "cyberstalking"? We babes-in-the-legal-woods have to
know, so that we don't unwittingly commit this horrible crime.
I could go on, but I'm aware that your time is very limited and that you
must prosecute other bad-ass criminals.
I believe these comments will be useful to you in investigating my
non-crime and in evaluating the material passed on to you by "Polar" and
her evil comrades from hell.
Please give my best regards to your two bosses, Mr. Ashcroft and Mr.
Bush, and tell them that I really, really like them. Unlike "Polar," I
have never said or written one negative word about your two bosses, whom
I admire a lot, because they have balls. Your paranoid, evil and
vicious client "Polar" keeps shitting on them, but I guess you don't
mind having your superiors beshitten and beshat because she's not
cyberstalking them, just shitting on them. Stalking is far worse than
shitting, right?
If you don't mind, would you please identify yourself to me (by e-mail
is okay) and send copies of this Open Letter and copies of Ms. Sara
Meric's file on me to your bosses, so that they know what a fantastic
job you're doing in secret to earn your taxpayer-paid salary.
If you need more help to figure out whether or not I'm cyberstalking
that sick old sow "Polar," please have a look at:
http://www.haltabuse.org/map.shtml
"If someone simply disagrees with you, however
strongly or unpleasantly, that isn't harassment."
That's kind of a neat quote from the site above you may want to pass on
to that fuckin' old wackette "Polar."
Hope to hear from you soon.
Have a good day.
Yours most sincerely & truly,
Dr. Reinhold Aman
Ex-Convict & Jolly Good Felon
Bureau of Prison #03873-089
http://www.sonic.net/maledicta/
P.S. If you receive this Open Letter from crazy "Polar" or one of her
evil helpers, please request an original copy of this letter directly
from me. Vindictive cocksuckers like "Polar" and her equally repulsive
pals are known to edit communications.
Donna L. Bridges
alt.quotations <3C605E...@sonic.net> "Reinhold (Rey) Aman"
<am...@sonic.net> virtually chirped:
>Insane & Evil Old "Polar" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 04:56:08 GMT, "Reinhold (Rey) Aman"
>> <am...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> >Dizzy "Enteron" Polar wrote:
*plonk*
Spooky Guy Next Door
(Rey) Aman (am...@sonic.net) wrote:
> As you know, I am a convicted felon ("Polar" has certainly told you
> about it repeatedly), so you *know* I'm a bad dude. But being the fair
> F-Man that you are, I'm certain that you want to know my side too, as
I thought they were G-men?
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