A non-Angel question for Mr. Tim Minear.
Andrew Poulter
(uk.media.tv.buffy-v-slayer).
> > > > > >...I tried watching 'Lois and Clark' (why is it 'Superman' in the
UK btw?)
> > > > >'The New Adventures of Superman' is the full title, probably
because
> > > > >that explains far more fully exactly what the show is. 'Lois &
Clark'
> > > > >would mean far less to a UK audience.
> > > > But why? The UK are too illiterate to know who Lois and Clark are?
> > > I'd go with yes. Its a very subtle joke; and sadly very few British
people
> > > have any concept of American history - especially as far back as 1804.
> > That's *really* subtle. Did any Americans actually get the joke?
> > I knew who Lewis and Clark were. I've read a fair bit of American
history
> > and I've read several articles specifically about Lewis and Clark. But
when
> > I heard about a series called "Lois and Clark", the idea that the title
was
> > a play on words never entered my head. Never. Not once in the last seven
(or
> > however many) years have I made this connection. Not till somebody
mentioned
> > it on this newsgroup this week.
> > Is it really a deliberate joke? That's not just an interpretation that
> > somebody tacked on after the fact?
> I'd always assumed it was a deliberate joke - but I know a man to ask...
> Mr. Tim Minear - ex staff writer on said show, and frequent contributor to
> UMTA - I'll ask the question in a new thread X-Posted to both groups.
Now I know you were only involved with the show for a year or so, and not at
the beginning; but can you set the record straight. Was it a deliberate
pun, and did anyone get it?
Thanks.
Andrew.
Tim Minear
the beginning; but can you set the record straight. Was it a deliberate
pun, and did anyone get it?
Thanks.
Andrew.<<
It was a pun. And, I mean, *I* got it. Never occurred to me to ask if anyone
else did. Beyond the pun, though, it also indicates that the story was less
about Superman and more about the people -- and by putting Lois first the title
also suggested that the series would be, to some degree, from her point of
view.
Chris Ashby
"Tim Minear" <timm...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20011125224016...@mb-cf.aol.com...
Who wants to watch a show about Superman that wasn't really about Superman
;)
I really used to enjoy that show, until the "relationship" started.
Tim Minear
started.<<
You mean in the pilot?
natalie
> Chris writes:>>I really used to enjoy that show, until the "relationship"
> started.<<
>
> You mean in the pilot?
you know, the man has a point there....
natalie
Mattia Valente
>
> "Tim Minear" <timm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20011126114416...@mb-fx.aol.com...
> > Chris writes:>>I really used to enjoy that show, until the "relationship"
> > started.<<
> >
> > You mean in the pilot?
LOL..
> you know, the man has a point there....
True...
Mattia
--
"My beagle went swimming today and now he's typing on my keyboard with
his ample nose. Oh, and he's the bestest handsomeest beagle EVER."
--Tim Minear, Salon.com, May 2001
Loz Pycock
<chris...@tfeurope-nospammo.com> mumble, more cocaine vicar?
mumble, mumble wrote:
I really enjoyed that show until it become the 'Lois' neurosis of the
week' show. "This week I are mainly obsessing over the fact I'm going
to grow old while Superman isn't..."
Ahh memories... how nice it would be to have some...
Loz
"She'll be male and female and in-between, she'll preen, then crack
her mirror, crack a beer and watch Love Connection." Alix Olson- Daughter.
"I hate Nazi sex midgets." Channon, Transmetropolitan #49.
Tim Minear
week' show.<<
She was neurotic in the, well, pilot.
>> "This week I are mainly obsessing over the fact I'm going to grow old while
Superman isn't..."<<
Hey, wait a minute...
Chris Ashby
> Chris writes:>>I really used to enjoy that show, until the "relationship"
> started.<<
>
> You mean in the pilot?
D'oh! No, I mean when the Unresolved Sexual Tension became resolved, and the
show switched to the relationship almost to the exclusion of everything
else. Same thing happened with Moonlighting. I know I'm stating what is
already well known here.
That's why I liked the Buffy/Angel thing. When Joss pulled the rug from
under their relationship with the curse, just when it looked like the show
was descending into pure soap, it really sold on the show once and for all.
Chris Ashby
"Mattia Valente" <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote in message
news:3C02B43F...@std.vu.nl...
> natalie wrote:
> >
> > "Tim Minear" <timm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20011126114416...@mb-fx.aol.com...
> > > Chris writes:>>I really used to enjoy that show, until the
"relationship"
> > > started.<<
> > >
> > > You mean in the pilot?
>
> LOL..
>
> > you know, the man has a point there....
>
> True...
Ah, you're all just sucking up to him ;)
Mulder and Scully have a relationship too, but that's obviously not what I
was talking about!
Hence the quotation marks!
Mattia Valente
>
> "Mattia Valente" <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote in message
> news:3C02B43F...@std.vu.nl...
> > natalie wrote:
> > >
> > > "Tim Minear" <timm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20011126114416...@mb-fx.aol.com...
> > > > Chris writes:>>I really used to enjoy that show, until the
> "relationship"
> > > > started.<<
> > > >
> > > > You mean in the pilot?
> >
> > LOL..
> >
> > > you know, the man has a point there....
> >
> > True...
>
> Ah, you're all just sucking up to him ;)
And that's a bad thing because.....I mean, we know the grovelling's not
healthy, but it can't be bad, right?
> Mulder and Scully have a relationship too, but that's obviously not what I
> was talking about!
:-p
I know, I know....and you do have a point. Being purposefully obtuse has
it's charm.
> Hence the quotation marks!
Selective blindness.
Loz Pycock
(Tim Minear) mumble, more cocaine vicar? mumble, mumble wrote:
>>>I really enjoyed that show until it become the 'Lois' neurosis of the
>week' show.<<
>
>She was neurotic in the, well, pilot.
Well yeah <strains memory to remember that far> but the main thing was
the sexual tension thing between her and Clark and Lex, the only thing
I didn't like was Cats clumsy attempts to seduce Clark. And seeing as
we're talking about it, did Shea want to leave or was he pushed? <g>
>
>>> "This week I are mainly obsessing over the fact I'm going to grow old while
>Superman isn't..."<<
>
>Hey, wait a minute...
Oops, sorry, was that one of yours? <tries to look contrite>
Tim Minear
pushed? <g>>>
Dunno, actually, I only got there in season four, and we tried to get him
back, but couldn't.
>>Oops, sorry, was that one of yours? <tries to look contrite<<
Well, yeah. ;)
Andrew Poulter
> >>Now I know you were only involved with the show for a year or so, and
not at
> the beginning; but can you set the record straight. Was it a deliberate
> pun, and did anyone get it?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Andrew.<<
>
<SNIP>
Thanks Tim.
AJP