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Niall Harrison

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Sep 7, 2001, 12:08:03 PM9/7/01
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Some spoiler space for the title of S3, ep 2, which Mr Minear is
writing...no content spoilers.

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As is probably well-known by now, the title of the ep is supposed to be
'That Old Gang Of Mine'. Now, if you will all turn to next thursday in
your copies of Radio Times, you will find that the episode of _The New
Adventures Of Superman_ showing that evening is entitled 'That Old Gang Of
Mine'. And Tim Minear used to write for _The New Adventures Of Superman_.
Now, I don't know if he wrote this particular ep, but...

So...chance? Or sinister conspiracy? You decide! ;-)

Niall

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"Just a bean trying to get some sleep."

Niall Harrison

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Sep 7, 2001, 5:15:43 PM9/7/01
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Michael F Gordon wrote:

> In <9nard3$75q$6...@news.ox.ac.uk> Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> writes:
>>So...chance? Or sinister conspiracy? You decide! ;-)
>
> The writers of the Superman episode were Gene Miller & Karen Kavner. Tim
> Minear didn't start writing for Superman until the 4th season.

Dang. So much for *that* overly-melodramatic theory, then...

Niall

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Kristen

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Sep 7, 2001, 5:44:27 PM9/7/01
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Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<9nard3$75q$6...@news.ox.ac.uk>...

As far as I know, that was not one of Tim's episodes. Though I could
be wrong since someone who shall remain nameless never doublechecked
his credits. (But he's busy so I'm not holding a grudge.)

But Tim did write an episode of L&C entitled "I've Got You Under My
Skin" and as we all know that was also the title of an Angel episode.
I'm thinking there just aren't any good titles left. ;-)

Oh and Tim's episode has been pushed to the #3 slot. Jeff Bell's
episode, "That Vision Thing" will now be the second episode of Season
Three.

Niall Harrison

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Sep 7, 2001, 5:50:09 PM9/7/01
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> As far as I know, that was not one of Tim's episodes.

I thought it probably wasn't. I just liked the coincidence.

> But Tim did write an episode of L&C entitled "I've Got You Under My
> Skin" and as we all know that was also the title of an Angel episode.
> I'm thinking there just aren't any good titles left. ;-)

Yeah. He nicked "Through The Looking Glass", too. No originality, that
man...

> Oh and Tim's episode has been pushed to the #3 slot. Jeff Bell's
> episode, "That Vision Thing" will now be the second episode of Season
> Three.

Hmm. I thought they were on to filming #5 or so now? That would indicate
there isn't much in the way of important continuity in #2 and #3.

Niall

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Niall Harrison

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Sep 7, 2001, 5:52:12 PM9/7/01
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>> But Tim did write an episode of L&C entitled "I've Got You Under My


>> Skin" and as we all know that was also the title of an Angel episode.
>> I'm thinking there just aren't any good titles left. ;-)
>
> Yeah. He nicked "Through The Looking Glass", too. No originality, that
> man...

That's badly written. It makes it look like I thought TM wrote IGYUMS.
Which I know he didn't. Dang.

Niall

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Harder to fly.

Sieue

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Sep 7, 2001, 6:11:29 PM9/7/01
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I heard a whisper that in article <9nbfeh$dlf$1...@news.ox.ac.uk>,
s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk says...
> > But Tim did write an episode of L&C entitled "I've Got You Under My
> > Skin" and as we all know that was also the title of an Angel episode.
> > I'm thinking there just aren't any good titles left. ;-)
>
> Yeah. He nicked "Through The Looking Glass", too. No originality, that
> man...

*gasp*

Sieue
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Helen H

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Sep 7, 2001, 6:53:28 PM9/7/01
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Niall,

I'm surprised at you .... I thought you of all people should know that
on Usenet you should never, ever let fact get in the way of a good
conspiracy theory. :)

Please continue with your theorising .... it passes the time between
now (or what I like to think of as "The Great Void") and the time when
we have new eps to analyse, discuss and drool over.

Helen

Harper

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Sep 7, 2001, 2:25:37 PM9/7/01
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"Niall Harrison" <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Sinsiter conspiracy, obviously!
Apart from the fact that I looked it up and found out that it was written
by Gene Miller and Karen Kavner. In fact, I couldn't see a writing credit
(in the ep guide I looked at) for any of Season 2, from which TOGOM
comes from. The first ep where he has a writing credit is S4 ep 5, Brutal
Youth.
Oooh, this is interesting. He wrote an episode called I've Got You Under
My Skin. He didn't write the next one, but it was called Toy Story.
Strange, if a little indirect, co-incidences.
This was all back in 1997.


>
> Niall

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Tim Minear

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Sep 7, 2001, 9:54:49 PM9/7/01
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>>That would indicate
there isn't much in the way of important continuity in #2 and #3<<

Actually, continuity works out better this way. You'll probably see what I
mean after the airings.

Tim Minear

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Sep 7, 2001, 9:57:10 PM9/7/01
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>>No originality, that
> man...<<

It's true. As noted here, my first L&C ep was "Brutal Youth", nicked from the
title of an Elvis Costello album. I've used "I've Got You Under My Skin"
twice, as you know, and my first ever produced tv script was for a show called
"The New Adventures Of Zorro" and that ep was called "Sanctuary."

Reality

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Sep 9, 2001, 7:09:57 PM9/9/01
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Spoiler space that Tim neglected to put into his own post ;) hahaha (oh,
come on.. ;)

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Tim Minear <timm...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010907215449...@mb-cj.aol.com...

Yep :) Been there, done that, bought the fridge magnet :)


Mattia Valente

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Sep 9, 2001, 8:52:58 PM9/9/01
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Reality wrote:
>
> Spoiler space that Tim neglected to put into his own post ;) hahaha (oh,
> come on.. ;)

We know you've got major smiley control problems, but please, PLEASE get
some help. Seriously. I kid you not. And, uh, there weren't any real
spoilers in the post below. Not what I would call a spoiler, in any
event.

Interesting. You're either someone who has access to the eps already, or
you're mildly delusional, and severely bizarre[1]. I know which one I'm
thinking....

Oh, and one last thing....PLEASE LAY OFF THE SMILEYS!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!

Mattia
Mildly sleep deprived, no patience for this kind of BS.

[1] I don't really mean that in a good way.

SaintlyRaven

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Sep 10, 2001, 5:24:39 PM9/10/01
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"Tim Minear" <timm...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010907215710...@mb-cj.aol.com...

Well...that just took all the mystery out.

~saintlyraven


Niall Harrison

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Sep 15, 2001, 10:39:44 AM9/15/01
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Helen H wrote:

> I'm surprised at you .... I thought you of all people should know that
> on Usenet you should never, ever let fact get in the way of a good
> conspiracy theory. :)

Heh.

> Please continue with your theorising .... it passes the time between
> now (or what I like to think of as "The Great Void") and the time when
> we have new eps to analyse, discuss and drool over.

We aim to please...

Niall

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Niall Harrison

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Sep 15, 2001, 10:40:56 AM9/15/01
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Yeah. Burn the heretic!

...oh, wait. *I'm* the heretic, it seems. Hmm.

Cake, please. [1]

Niall

[1] Will anyone get the joke?

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The circle only has one side.

Mattia Valente

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Sep 15, 2001, 12:53:14 PM9/15/01
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Erm..

> ...oh, wait. *I'm* the heretic, it seems. Hmm.

Yes. Bad Niall...nat, may I? No? OK...



> Cake, please. [1]
>
> Niall
>
> [1] Will anyone get the joke?

Not me, anyway...sound Python-y, but so do most things that seemingly
make no sense.

Mattia
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his ample nose. Oh, and he's the bestest handsomeest beagle EVER."
--Tim Minear, Salon.com, May 2001

Reality

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Sep 15, 2001, 10:02:17 PM9/15/01
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Mattia Valente <mae.v...@std.vu.nl> wrote in message
news:3BA3877A...@std.vu.nl...

Twas not a joke.. It was dead when I got it home I tell you ;) Oh, it`s an
argument you`re after eh?? "PING" ect ;) hahhaah ;)

Agh.. let them eat humble pie I say ;)

Loz Pycock

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Sep 16, 2001, 6:52:27 AM9/16/01
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:40:56 +0000 (UTC), whilst pausing in attempts
to clone a new Christ Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote
the following:

Cake or death?

Loz

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Niall Harrison

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Sep 17, 2001, 7:49:55 AM9/17/01
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Loz Pycock wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:40:56 +0000 (UTC), whilst pausing in attempts
> to clone a new Christ Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote
> the following:
>>
>>Cake, please. [1]
>>
>>Niall
>>
>>[1] Will anyone get the joke?
>
> Cake or death?

"Death. No, wait, I mean cake."

"Aaah-aah-aaah, you said death!"

"Damn."

:-)

Niall

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Mattia Valente

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Sep 17, 2001, 11:35:36 AM9/17/01
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Yes, it was.

> It was dead when I got it home I tell you ;)

Riiight......

> Oh, it`s an argument you`re after eh??

Not really. Arguments require that I actually understand the point
you're trying to make, and from past experience, Mr. 'Loofah in the
Wazzoo', I can safely say the chances of that happening repeatedly are,
well, rather slim.

> "PING" ect ;)

*Mattia sets mode +b Reality (agh ;) ;)

> hahhaah ;)

Indeed. One assumes.



> Agh.. let them eat humble pie I say ;)

Why. That's plain boring.

Oh, and please, do something about the Smiley Demon.

Daniel Milburn

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Sep 17, 2001, 12:19:21 PM9/17/01
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Mattia Valente wrote:


Scarily, I do understand. They're all Monty Python references. :)


>
>>"PING" ect ;)
>>
>
> *Mattia sets mode +b Reality (agh ;) ;)
>
>
>> hahhaah ;)
>>
>
> Indeed. One assumes.
>
>
>>Agh.. let them eat humble pie I say ;)
>>
>
> Why. That's plain boring.
>
> Oh, and please, do something about the Smiley Demon.


Yes, please do.


Dan


>
> Mattia
>


Loz Pycock

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Sep 17, 2001, 5:57:57 PM9/17/01
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:49:55 +0000 (UTC), whilst pausing in attempts

to clone a new Christ Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote
the following:

>Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Loz Pycock wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:40:56 +0000 (UTC), whilst pausing in attempts
>> to clone a new Christ Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote
>> the following:
>>>
>>>Cake, please. [1]
>>>
>>>Niall
>>>
>>>[1] Will anyone get the joke?
>>
>> Cake or death?
>
>"Death. No, wait, I mean cake."
>
>"Aaah-aah-aaah, you said death!"
>
>"Damn."
>

"I would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky God and
Jesus fellas..."

Wouldn't that be the coolest detective show ever, 'God and Son,
Private Detectives'?

Niall Harrison

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Sep 18, 2001, 7:39:30 AM9/18/01
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Loz Pycock wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:49:55 +0000 (UTC), whilst pausing in attempts
> to clone a new Christ Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote
> the following:

>>Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Loz Pycock wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:40:56 +0000 (UTC), whilst pausing in attempts
>>> to clone a new Christ Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote
>>> the following:
>>>>
>>>>Cake, please. [1]
>>>>
>>>>Niall
>>>>
>>>>[1] Will anyone get the joke?
>>>
>>> Cake or death?
>>
>>"Death. No, wait, I mean cake."
>>
>>"Aaah-aah-aaah, you said death!"
>>
>>"Damn."
>
> "I would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky God and
> Jesus fellas..."
>
> Wouldn't that be the coolest detective show ever, 'God and Son,
> Private Detectives'?

Only if God was played by James Mason, obviously.

Paul Smith

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Sep 19, 2001, 5:57:40 PM9/19/01
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"Niall Harrison" <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
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"I, James Mason, shall go to Transylvania... to increase the plot of this
film."

Careful. Before you know it you'll be talking about cats drilling behind
the sofa...

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Greg Townsend

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Sep 19, 2001, 6:41:49 PM9/19/01
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In article <9ob4d7$bt1fe$1...@ID-53355.news.dfncis.de>, Paul Smith
<ozric99-no...@lineone.net> writes
We could all travel in a shpeed boat piloted by Noah. I have big ears
and therefore will sit along the side of the shpeed boat. great photo
opportunity.

Sigh
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Niall Harrison

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Sep 20, 2001, 11:53:50 AM9/20/01
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Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Paul Smith wrote:
> "Niall Harrison" <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:9o7bpi$fjv$1...@news.ox.ac.uk...
>> Previously, on uk.media.tv.angel - Loz Pycock wrote:
>> > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:49:55 +0000 (UTC), whilst pausing in attempts
>> > to clone a new Christ Niall Harrison <s...@tirian.magd.ox.ac.uk> wrote
>> > the following:
>> >>
>> >>"Death. No, wait, I mean cake."
>> >>
>> >>"Aaah-aah-aaah, you said death!"
>> >>
>> >>"Damn."
>> >
>> > "I would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky God and
>> > Jesus fellas..."
>> >
>> > Wouldn't that be the coolest detective show ever, 'God and Son,
>> > Private Detectives'?
>>
>> Only if God was played by James Mason, obviously.
>
> "I, James Mason, shall go to Transylvania... to increase the plot of this
> film."
>
> Careful. Before you know it you'll be talking about cats drilling behind
> the sofa...

They drill for oil - they drill for gold - they drill just for the love of
drilling!

Niall

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