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Daniel Hodul, Ph.D.

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Oct 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/2/98
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I wonder if our illustrious group happens to have a marine biologist
who would comment on my latest brainstorm. Anyway, here goes.

How about a surfboard that has a small motor that causes plastic
hands to paddle in, say, a figure eight. The battery that powers
the robot surfer also passes a current through a transformer, which
steps it up into a wire network through the board and plastic hands.

We drop these robot surfers around sharky surfbreaks, then, when the
sharks mistakenly take a bite out of what they think is a seal, they
get a painful shock. The sharks then learn to avoid surfboards, and,
no one is the worse for wear!

I'm just not sure if the shark's "brain" is sophisticated enough to
process such avoidance information. Ideas?

Thanks,
DAN

Gleshna

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Oct 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/2/98
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Sounds better that the shark repellants that never quite are ready. My idea is
still using a fishing radar to alert me that something bigger than me is
nearby.

Bob

SurffOhio

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Oct 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/2/98
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>How about a surfboard that has a small motor that causes plastic
>hands to paddle in, say, a figure eight. The battery that powers
>the robot surfer also passes a current through a transformer, which
>steps it up into a wire network through the board and plastic hands.

You should contact the famous Bob Gleshna with these type questions. I am sure
he will be contacting you, however.

He may have something along the lines of using alien spacecraft to lure sharks
into deeper water.

Surff

SURFGEO

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Oct 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/2/98
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>>How about a surfboard that has a small motor that causes plastic
>>hands to paddle in, say, a figure eight. The battery that powers
>>the robot surfer also passes a current through a transformer, which
>>steps it up into a wire network through the board and plastic hands.

you guys have a wee bit too much time on your hands. either that, or mexico
had a bumper crop of mountain herb this year
surfgeo

Eric

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Oct 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/2/98
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Yeah man, pass it down. Better get Scripps on this ASAP !

E

( Oooh ! They have the internet on computers now ! - Homer Simpson )

Tom Keener

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Oct 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/2/98
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On Fri, 02 Oct 1998 08:02:11 GMT, Daniel Hodul, Ph.D.
<bbr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I wonder if our illustrious group happens to have a marine biologist
>who would comment on my latest brainstorm. Anyway, here goes.
>

>I'm just not sure if the shark's "brain" is sophisticated enough to
>process such avoidance information. Ideas?

No offense, but what did you say the Ph.D. stands for? I thought a
university education was supposed to teach you how to think logically.

Tom Keener
keensurf_at_cts_dot_com

Sandman

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Oct 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/2/98
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Gleshna wrote:
>
My idea is still using a fishing radar to alert me that something bigger
than me is
> nearby.
>
> Bob

would you mount this to your skull
with brackets and concrete screws
or embed it in your surfboard?

Gleshna

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Oct 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/3/98
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Good idea. I had not thought of mounting in the surfboard.

I was thinking of a buoy with just a blinking red light for starts.
Personally, I think the technology for this sort of thing already exists. What
is missing is a high tech group that envisions the market for a device like
this. There are plenty of very good high tech problem solvers in the world
that can work out the little obstacles.

While the repellent idea is appealing, it has been worked on for decades
without any real success to my knowledge. I think a variety of approaches
would be good. Even the robot lure would probably be better than the present
approach.

Bob

ray

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Oct 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/4/98
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Gleshna wrote:
>
> >>
> >My idea is still using a fishing radar to alert me that something bigger
> >than me is
> >> nearby.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> >would you mount this to your skull
> >with brackets and concrete screws
> >or embed it in your surfboard?
>
> Good idea. I had not thought of mounting in the surfboard.
>
> I was thinking of a buoy with just a blinking red light for starts.
> Personally, I think the technology for this sort of thing already exists. What
> is missing is a high tech group that envisions the market for a device like
> this.

They better not show up at my break.

Ray

Dan Hodul

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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Is anyone reading here?

Daniel Hodul; Ph.D. <bbr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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> I wonder if our illustrious group happens to have a marine biologist
> who would comment on my latest brainstorm. Anyway, here goes.
>

> How about a surfboard that has a small motor that causes plastic
> hands to paddle in, say, a figure eight. The battery that powers
> the robot surfer also passes a current through a transformer, which
> steps it up into a wire network through the board and plastic hands.
>

> We drop these robot surfers around sharky surfbreaks, then, when the
> sharks mistakenly take a bite out of what they think is a seal, they
> get a painful shock. The sharks then learn to avoid surfboards, and,
> no one is the worse for wear!
>

> I'm just not sure if the shark's "brain" is sophisticated enough to
> process such avoidance information. Ideas?
>

> Thanks,
> DAN
>

Gleshna

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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>
>Is anyone reading here?
>
>

There is an oceanography group. They might give the response you desire.

Another alternative would be those invisible fences they use for dogs.

Or how about a giant scarecrow shark?

Bob

SurffOhio

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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What About Bob? wrote:

>Or how about a giant scarecrow shark?

That would be like building a giant crow, Bob. It has to be something the shark
is afraid of. The shark might think it's his mom.

Keep up the good research, Bob. Maybe build a giant scarecrow Dolphin? Maybe
you could replace the straw with ballons?

Surff :-)

johnw

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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Gleshna wrote:
>
> Or how about a giant scarecrow shark?
>
> Bob

I had this idea the other day to create a black and shiny costume that
looks like a sea lion. But here's the catch: it would be impenetrable to
sharks teeth, and it wouldn't even require electricity. On the outside,
it's actually real sea lion skin, but underneath it's one cm of
titanium-lined vulcanized rubber. And under that I would where chain
mail, the medievel kind, not the email kind. I'd love to see Mr. White
bite through that!!

I would tow an unmanned surfboard behind me, but here's the real
brainstorm: the board would have a freshly killed sea lion on it! The
dummy board would, of course, be roughly 30 meters behind me. It would
greatly aid my paddle practice if nothing else.

This way, the next time I paddle out at Ano Nuevo, I would not only have
my shark-proof cacoon, I would have this neat-o shark lure/dummy bait as
back up. I would feel so safe out there. Those mean sharks would be so
baffled by my ingenuity!!

I am indeed smarter than those dumb sharks! Just look at the letters
after my name!

;-)

-johnw

Sandman

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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Bob, you don't by any chance, smoke a lot of crack, do you?

> this. There are plenty of very good high tech problem solvers in the world
> that can work out the little obstacles.

what "we're" really missing is a target market

Gleshna

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Oct 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/6/98
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>
>Bob, you don't by any chance, smoke a lot of crack, do you?
>
>

This kind of comment is done quite a bit by young kids in schools. They call
it "roasting". It is usually very popular among the non-self-directed kids in
the slower classes.

Bob

Ninth...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/6/98
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I would tow an unmanned surfboard behind me, but here's the real
> brainstorm: the board would have a freshly killed sea lion on it! The
> dummy board would, of course, be roughly 30 meters behind me. It would
> greatly aid my paddle practice if nothing else.
>

Better yet, put the dead seal in front so whitey tows you into the wave.
>


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