parents of Alix de Bourgoyne

Leo van de Pas

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Jul 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/24/98

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At 05:34 AM 7/25/98 GMT, you wrote:
>I don't seem to find any information on the parents of Alix de Bourgoyne, the
>mother of Jean I, duc de Brabant. Does anyone have her lineage?
>
>Dear James Bond,
The parents etc. of Alix :
1.Adelheid/Alix de Bourgogne
died 23 October 1273

2.Hugues IV, Duke of Bourgogne
born 9 March 1212, died 27 October 1272 Villaines-en-Duesnois
married 1229
3.Yolande de Dreux, Comtesse d'Auxonne
died 30 October 1248

4.Eudes III, Duke of Bourgogne
born 1166, died 6 July 1218 Lyon
married 1199
5.Alix de Vergy
born 1182, died 8 March 1252 Prenois-en-Montagne

6.Robert III, Comte de Dreux
born circa 1185, died 3 March 1234
married 1210/1211
7.Aenor de St.Valery
born circa 1192, died after 15 November 1250

Hope this helps,
Leo van de Pas

Benjamin Hertzel

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98

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I'm glad this was brought up...

> I don't seem to find any information on the parents of Alix de Bourgoyne, the
> mother of Jean I, duc de Brabant. Does anyone have her lineage?

I have Jean II (died 1312) and Jean III (died 1355), but I don't have a
connection between them and Jean I.

I also have Henrys I, II, and III - as fathers and sons - but again, I
don't know how they connect with Jeans I, II and III.

Lastly, I show Ansegius, Duc de Brabant, (father of Pepin), but no
connection to the other Ducs.

Can someone put all these together for me, or am I mistaken in believing
that a connection exists?

Thank you.

Benjamin

Benjamin Hertzel

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98

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Leo,

> 6.Robert III, Comte de Dreux
> born circa 1185, died 3 March 1234
> married 1210/1211

> 7.Aenor de St.Valery
> born circa 1192, died after 15 November 1250

I have a Maud de St. Valery, (1155 - 1210) who married William de Braose
(1153 - 1211). Is she related to Aenor de St. Valery (above) - and if so,
how? Thank you.

Benjamin

Richard Borthwick

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98

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Maud was Aenor's aunt. A fairly full discussion of the St-Valery family took
place late(?)last year.
>

Leo van de Pas

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Jul 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/25/98

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It always helps when people ask clear and precise questions,
but a precise and clear answer is also necessary. To dismiss the
relationship between Aenor and Matilda/Maud as "aunt and niece"
does not really suffice.

Maud---(1)---Bernard de St.Valery----(2)---Eleanor de Dommart
I I
Matilda/Maud de St.Valery Thomas de St.Valery
I
Aenor de St.Valery

This shows that saying 'aunt and niece' is correct but only just.
Leo van de Pas

Raymond l. montgomery

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Jul 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/27/98

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Leo
Thank you so much for you help in the past!.
Sir do you have any more on the ancestry of Alix De Vergy?????
Sincerely
Young Raymond

On 24 Jul 1998 22:52:51 -0700 leov...@iinet.net.au (Leo van de Pas)
writes:

>At 05:34 AM 7/25/98 GMT, you wrote:

>4.Eudes III, Duke of Bourgogne
> born 1166, died 6 July 1218 Lyon
> married 1199
>5.Alix de Vergy
> born 1182, died 8 March 1252 Prenois-en-Montagne

>Hope this helps,
>Leo van de Pas
>
>

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