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jeff

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Feb 14, 2002, 5:09:00 AM2/14/02
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Dr. Harold Bloomfield, 57, faces up to nearly four years in prison when
he is sentenced March 22, the prosecutor said. Bloomfield could receive
probation in the case.

As part of the plea agreement, the district attorney's office dropped a
misdemeanor charge of sexual battery for allegedly fondling one of the
women.

"He's been very remorseful and he's been very cooperative," said
prosecutor Richard Madruga. "This is a fair resolution of this case."

Madruga said both of the women were notified of the pleas and they were
in agreement with the resolution of the case.

Ecstasy is also known as the "love drug" or "hug drug" for its ability
to make users ultra-sensitive to visual and physical stimuli. Bloomfield
believed it had medicinal value in treating patients, said Bob Grimes,
Bloomfield's attorney.

"He was using Ecstasy in a misguided way to medicate himself ... and he
thought this would be of some help to others as well," Grimes said.

Bloomfield is nationally known for his self-help books and seminars,
which focus on relationships and self-empowerment. He has written 17 books,
including the best-seller "How to Survive the Loss of Love."

He has appeared on a number of national TV shows, including "Good
Morning America" and "The Oprah Winfrey Show."


The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Petrus

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Feb 14, 2002, 1:18:23 PM2/14/02
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"jeff" <jeva...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> Ecstasy is also known as the "love drug" or "hug drug" for its
ability
> to make users ultra-sensitive to visual and physical stimuli. Bloomfield
> believed it had medicinal value in treating patients, said Bob Grimes,
> Bloomfield's attorney.

Ah on eof those ayur vedic remidies eh?

ewsnead

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Feb 14, 2002, 6:46:51 PM2/14/02
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Petrus wrote in message ...
Shucks, I thought Bloomfield was a long time meditator, He wrote two books
on the subject in th 1970's. Why on earth would the man need that sort of
medication? Remember, meditate and radiate? I guess he wasn't really
radiating very much.
>


Petrus

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Feb 14, 2002, 6:51:06 PM2/14/02
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"ewsnead" <erik....@gte.net> wrote in message
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> Remember, meditate and radiate?

I had forgotten that one. We finally find out Willys problem. He has
become radio active by now.

ewsnead

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Feb 14, 2002, 7:04:37 PM2/14/02
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Petrus wrote in message ...
>

LOL


George DeForest

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Feb 14, 2002, 11:49:25 PM2/14/02
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"ewsnead" <erik....@gte.net> wrote:
> Shucks, I thought Bloomfield was a long time meditator

yes, too long time, he is having male mid-life crisis part 2.
(part 1 age 40, part 2 age 55)

> He wrote two books on the subject in th 1970's.

he didnt stop there.

he ran for govenor of California in the last election,
as a Natural Law Party candidate (NLP is the TM party).

also, Dr B has been co-author of the Ayurveda newsletter
sent out from MAPI (Maharish Ayurveda Products Inc).
i think, tho, he just got fired from that job!

Petrus

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Feb 15, 2002, 1:28:43 PM2/15/02
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"George DeForest" <george....@usa.net> wrote in message
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> "ewsnead" <erik....@gte.net> wrote:
> > Shucks, I thought Bloomfield was a long time meditator
>
> yes, too long time, he is having male mid-life crisis part 2.
> (part 1 age 40, part 2 age 55)

What does that say about TM? Where you were to stay young forever..


>
> > He wrote two books on the subject in th 1970's.
>
> he didnt stop there.
>
> he ran for govenor of California in the last election,
> as a Natural Law Party candidate (NLP is the TM party).

How come the NLP did not close doors as was demanded by MMY last year?

IAAKOS do you have your ears on? Could you as a candidate of the NLP
comment on that?

>
> also, Dr B has been co-author of the Ayurveda newsletter
> sent out from MAPI (Maharish Ayurveda Products Inc).
> i think, tho, he just got fired from that job!

Surprise surprise.


Michael

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Feb 17, 2002, 6:05:02 AM2/17/02
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"Petrus" <NOS...@NOWAY.NOWHERE> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:u6ojc79...@corp.supernews.com...
:
: "ewsnead" <erik....@gte.net> wrote in message

This is probably your idea of "Love they neighbour". You don't even know what an asshole you are Petr0ck. What does Willy have to do with Bloomfields shortcomings? Your way of argumentation just reflects on you. You can go on and on with this childish way of flaming with any of the other jokers here on the board like the Sud, and probably even think its funny. Well, its bad humour.

Sudarsha

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Feb 17, 2002, 12:21:55 PM2/17/02
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You, Michael, might think that anyone who finds concern with tm and
the deceptive ways of Mahesh (who tricked us into [the pretense of]
"spirituality" and into a great deal more) is joking or some sort of
fool or spiritual defective. You are certainly entitled to think as
you please, I have no argument with that.

However, Michael, you should note this: Mahesh usually didn't do
business on Thursday until the evening. From Thursday evening until
Wednesday evening I spent almost all day, every day with him from late
in December 1971 until I went to India in November of 1973. (This was,
for reasons I do not understand, his idea, not mine.) During the
course in La Antilla, however, because I was one of the course
leaders, I spent somewhat less time with him, but the time I did spend
with him became increasingly more concentrated and intense.

I got to know him very, very well, he made sure of it; this included
his public side as well as his private side. Although Mahesh was more
subtle than Petrus, Mahesh did exactly what you are criticizing Petrus
for doing. This cannot be sufficiently emphasized for the
small-minded, self-serving true-believers here, like yourself,
Michael. Mahesh used every opportunity to turn everything into
criticism of what was not his thinking/opinion at that moment; he also
used this exact same tactic to turn everything into self-serving
appreciation of whatever he was thinking/teaching at any particular
moment.

Petrus' apparent lack of subtlety is for your personal benefit,
Michael, and for the benefit of other self-serving true-believers who
think, as you apparently do, that having found the perfect spiritual
vacuum (Mahesh and his self-serving extension, the tmo) into which to
pour your own poorly thought out allegiance you have somehow elevated
youself to the level you project onto this narcissistic predator.

You and those sucked into Mahesh's spiritual vacuum think in concrete,
fundamentalist terms. You cannot see any picture and are left picking
at the bits that seem to represent your own small-mindedness. Keep
this in mind, because others are keeping it in mind!


"Michael" <ni...@na.net> wrote in message news:<a4o2s5$dmm$1...@newsread1.arcor-online.net>...

Michael

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Feb 17, 2002, 4:17:16 PM2/17/02
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"Sudarsha" <s_nam...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:485e7b3.02021...@posting.google.com...
: You, Michael, might think that anyone who finds concern with tm and

: the deceptive ways of Mahesh (who tricked us into [the pretense of]
: "spirituality" and into a great deal more) is joking or some sort of
: fool or spiritual defective.

Thats certainly not what I said. I am indeed referring to the style of some of your commenly created threads and its self-serving creativism, and the way you extend your personal conclusions upon others, most notably on Willy.


: You are certainly entitled to think as


: you please, I have no argument with that.

How could you?
:
<snip>
:
: I got to know him very, very well, he made sure of it; this included


: his public side as well as his private side. Although Mahesh was more
: subtle than Petrus, Mahesh did exactly what you are criticizing Petrus
: for doing.

I don't know if all that is true, and I cannot really check it. But to me it seems you are actually emptying the baby with the bath. I.E. I don't really know much about certain character items of Maharishi, and I know very well, that even enlightened people have characters and even ego, but unless you live with them in close proximity that does not seem to be really important. Besides, at the time of your involvement, you didn't really seem to have anything against it.

: This cannot be sufficiently emphasized for the


: small-minded, self-serving true-believers here, like yourself,
: Michael.

Excuse me Mister, how do you draw the conclusion that I am small-minded, only because I differ in my judgement on certain topics? I think this is rather small-minded of you. With regards to the "true-believer" you should take note, that i haven't used the TM -Mantra since 1989! And ever since I didn't see a TM Center from inside. There are a number of things where I differ from the official TM line, and you must have noticed that I don't defend certain things. But I don't make a big show out of it , like you.


: Mahesh used every opportunity to turn everything into


: criticism of what was not his thinking/opinion at that moment; he also
: used this exact same tactic to turn everything into self-serving
: appreciation of whatever he was thinking/teaching at any particular
: moment.
:
: Petrus' apparent lack of subtlety is for your personal benefit,
: Michael, and for the benefit of other self-serving true-believers

Excuse me. is this your fatherly concern or what " for my benefit". Leave it to me please, what is for my benefit, as I don't have any intend getting your judgements impost on me! Really speaking, you are a bit more thinking as the poor Petr0ck, who is a true-beliefing fundamental Xtian, a position, which you cannot possibly defend if you are honest.

: who


: think, as you apparently do, that having found the perfect spiritual
: vacuum (Mahesh and his self-serving extension, the tmo) into which to
: pour your own poorly thought out allegiance you have somehow elevated
: youself to the level you project onto this narcissistic predator.

Do you actually want to show up, by constructing such sentences, knowing I am a German, or what in heaven do you want to say?


:
: You and those sucked into Mahesh's spiritual vacuum think in concrete,
: fundamentalist terms.

How would my thinking be fundamentalistic, and how (!) could someone like Petr0ck save me from that? I told you that you are a joker

: You cannot see any picture and are left picking


: at the bits that seem to represent your own small-mindedness.

I am not picking out of small mindedness. Try to be a bit more precise and focused: It was me criticising the petr0ck for his grossness in connecting the short comings of one person and somehow transfer it to all of TM and especially Willy, for the sole reason that he defends TM. How can you even dare to defend this and try to, eloquently, turn it into the opposite? How much am I actually posting here? And how much is the Petr0ck posting? Who is picking on actually anything here any TMer has ever said? Please get this into your head before you start accusing collectively anyone who is somehow connected with the object of you personal disappointment, of being small- minded or of poor thinking. If I read your sentences I get the impression that it is you who is narcistically perverse.

When I read your expositions I always get the impression that you live mainly in your thoughts and memories. As I have told you before, there cannot be any memory of transcendence.What you see, is indeed a small pictuire, and you seem to want to impose this on all others. You say: I know Maharishi better than all of you, therefore follow my judgement.And if you don't do, you are small-minded. Excuse me, this is narcistic, and authoritarian. You are indeed a narcistic Joker.

Michael

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Feb 17, 2002, 8:12:58 PM2/17/02
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"Sudarsha" <s_nam...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:485e7b3.02021...@posting.google.com...

: Keep this in mind, because others are keeping it in mind!

Others: You ? Being small-minded and picky youself

Addendum: Please take note, that I am writing this and whatever I have been writing here, and as it increasingly impossible to share anything of value here, because of suckers like the petr0ck, from a spiritual perspective, if you know what I mean (of course you don't). So in my evaluation about things related to TM and MMY this is in fact my criterium and not some personal disappointments, which you are trying to work off. I haven't seen even ONE real contribution with content from you. What do you in fact, however old you may be, have to give to anybody here? I can answer that one for you: Nothing! There is nothing of any spiritual significance you can share. So who are you to tell anybody anything, to warn, or even to be concerned about, if all you have to share is your pseudo-psychologistic vocabulary? So what I am relating to is my own experience, and I can see that MMY has told me about the possibility of enlightenment, that it is in fact easy, what transcendence is all about, what higher states of consciousness are, what non-duality is, what the dynamic absolute is, what the Guru Disciple relationship is like, what the divine Feminine (something totaly missing with fundy Xtians) is about. He has furtheron given me the habbit of a stable practise, and I can tell you, I meet a lot of spiritual practitioneers from all kinds of groups, and know that it is this that is missing with most people; and he has given me the invaluable opportunity of an extended period of practise, that resulted ultimately in whatever fruit you obviously don't know about. So pleeease don't teach me. And you are just a sucker on this group.


Sudarsha

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Feb 18, 2002, 7:45:19 AM2/18/02
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"Michael" <ni...@na.net> wrote in message news:<a4p6o4$j6a$1...@newsread1.arcor-online.net>...

> "Sudarsha" <s nama...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag

> news:485e7b3.02021...@posting.google.com...
> : You, Michael, might think that anyone who finds concern with tm and
> : the deceptive ways of Mahesh (who tricked us into [the pretense of]
> : "spirituality" and into a great deal more) is joking or some sort of
> : fool or spiritual defective.
>
> Thats certainly not what I said. I am indeed referring to the style of
> some of your commenly created threads and its self-serving creativism,
> and the way you extend your personal conclusions upon others, most
> notably on Willy.

I do not read Richard Williams' posts nor do I comment on them. I do,
sometimes, comment on what others comment on them.

"self-serving creativism" seems to sum up Mahesh, his nonsense and the
true-believers who need to believe that you can keep your
self-grasping ego and be "highly evolved" at the same time. You are
certainly welcomed to such muck.

<<snipped the rest>>

Michael

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Feb 18, 2002, 11:12:30 AM2/18/02
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"Sudarsha" <s_nam...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:485e7b3.02021...@posting.google.com...
: I do not read Richard Williams' posts nor do I comment on them. I do,

: sometimes, comment on what others comment on them.

Which you are obviously not in a position to do then consequently.
:
: "self-serving creativism" seems to sum up Mahesh, his nonsense and the


: true-believers who need to believe that you can keep your
: self-grasping ego and be "highly evolved" at the same time. You are
: certainly welcomed to such muck.

You have certainly no capacity for dialogue. I don't think, btw, that spiritual experiences should be a taboo on a spiritual forum. Your obvious lack thereof doesn't permit you, to judge those who have, to be "egoistic". Be assured that you are egoistic w/o. How could you even perceive ego, if you wouldn't kow it?

willytex

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Feb 18, 2002, 5:54:23 PM2/18/02
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Forum: alt.meditation transcendental
Subject: aimmin' w/o lubrication
Author: willytex
Date: with Nirv@na Micheal


> "Michael" wrote

> Be assured that you are egoistic w/o. How could you even
> perceive ego, if you wouldn't kow it?

I luv it when u talk dirty sweetie ;>) :-
I'll be takin aim on yur object of meditation w/o lube!

here's to slippin my ego, into yurs

Michael

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Feb 19, 2002, 1:23:01 PM2/19/02
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"ColdBlu" <will...@volcanomail.com> wrote news:b0d73c5c.02021...@posting.google.com...
: Forum: alt.meditation transcendental

Is this your Rasa Dance? Sort of WilliBlu leela. Don't be confused about egos. There is only one.

Petrus

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Feb 19, 2002, 1:32:43 PM2/19/02
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"Michael" <ni...@na.net> wrote in message
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Normally I do not reply to people who are proven flaming trolls, proven
liars, proven deceivers, impersonators and name caller. But for you Michael
I will make an exception here today.

Willys shortcomings have nothing to do with Bloomfields shortcomings. That
was never indicated in my post. My post was just a poking of fun on the old
saying in the TM movement: Meditate and Radiate. Now that you, in your
hatred towards me want to insinuate & flame the worst, that is just a
reflection of your soul. It radiates the darkness that is deep down in
your heart.


Petrus

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Feb 19, 2002, 2:30:58 PM2/19/02
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"Sudarsha" <s_nam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You, Michael, might think that anyone who finds concern with tm and
>
> Petrus' apparent lack of subtlety is for your personal benefit,

I would like to clarify this, suds. I do not *have* a lack of subtlety. I
can be sublte if I want. The need that I see for TMers at this NG is not
subtlety, but truth, unashamed, un spin doctored, plain truth.

And that is why I ask these questions:

How is it that the TM org in 40+ years, after advertising being the fastest
vehicle to enlightenment, still cannot produce one individual that has
reached enlightenment through the TM program?

How is it, that the TM org in 25+ years of Sidhis still cannot produce one
person that has mastered the Yogic Flying sutra by demonstrating the ability
to levitate?

How is it that the TM org in 40+ years, still cannot produce an Ideal
Society free from crime in Fairfield IA?

How is it that the TM org has now over 8,000 Maharishi Vedic Vishwa
Prashasaks performing Hindu Yagyas for world peace as well as doing the
Yogic
Flying Sutras en masse and we *still* do not see world peace?


Because they need to see the truth and recognize the lies.

Michael

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Feb 19, 2002, 7:31:21 PM2/19/02
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"Petrus" <NOS...@NOWAY.NOWHERE> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:u756ic5...@corp.supernews.com...

: Normally I do not reply to people who are proven flaming trolls, proven


: liars, proven deceivers, impersonators and name caller. But for you Michael
: I will make an exception here today.

Why? Don't make any exception for me please. I don't need special treatment. Or did you just need an excuse to prove my point?
:
: It radiates the darkness that is deep down in your heart.

Yeah, I know, its the devil, the deeper you go, uuaghh..

Why Petr0ck, are you so predictable?

So you are flaming at Willy, for no apparent reason, just as a sort of sports, with your friend the Suds, who comes to your rescue, and I just happen , just once, to point the finger on something very obvious, and now its me being the bad guy, and having the dark heart, just because for you, your unjustified cause, justifies all means, right? So if even your friend, the Sud has to admit, that your behaviour was gross, and let me say this, is gross in general, there is surely something more to it, don't you think? So, please don't defend an ad hominem attack by another ad hominem attack, because that is childish.


:

Petrus

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Feb 19, 2002, 8:11:20 PM2/19/02
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"Michael" <ni...@na.net> wrote in message
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"Petrus" <NOS...@NOWAY.NOWHERE> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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M said.


So you are flaming at Willy, for no apparent reason, just as a sort of
sports, with your friend the Suds, who comes to your rescue, and I just
happen , just once, to point the finger on something very obvious, and now
its me being the bad guy, and having the dark heart, just because for you,
your unjustified cause, justifies all means, right? So if even your friend,
the Sud has to admit, that your behaviour was gross, and let me say this, is
gross in general, there is surely something more to it, don't you think? So,
please don't defend an ad hominem attack by another ad hominem attack,
because that is childish.

P:
When you are pointing your finger at someone, three are pointed right back
to you.

:

will...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2002, 10:20:35 AM2/24/02
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From: "Bodhi_Cheater" <.@.>
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: I'm the impersonator

Yes it's me! Eve_69.

I impersonated Petrus and willytex. I admit it. There were probably two
copycats because frankly you two people deserved the humorous attempts to
damage your egos. I am not going into details about why I did it except
that many times both of you totally cut me down without provocation so I
truely felt you all deserved the aggrivation that you caused me and I am
good at it. Petrus, to you only am I sorry for the things I said about your
wife. That was wrong and I ask if you would forgive for that. You all do
as you see fit. Notify my isp or whatever but I won't let Petrus take the
blame for this when I did it. Me Kirk Bernhardt. Ciao. I also was pissed
when one of you called my isp when I went by swirl@ and tried to get me
kicked because I slammed Lon for his sickening child molestation at MIU
story. None of you all has any right to be here sporting your egos. You all
will never get any kind of joy from it. But at least I realize that I
shouldn't be here. So I'm going.

will...@volcanomail.com (willytex) wrote in
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