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Brian Todd

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Jul 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/9/98
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Andy Wardley <a...@kfs.org> wrote:

> Flying kites on 150' lines? How ridiculous can you get?

Apparently *VERY* ridiculous.

Yesterday, Dan Whitney of Gone With The Wind Kites informed me that
he had customer(s) who were flying Paraflex's on 500 foot line sets!

Imagine buying, sleeving, tying and equalizing a 1000 foot roll of
200-300# Spectra to make 1 line set!

What kind of winder does one use?

Where do you fly a kite where the swept area of the lines is 500 feet
deep and 1000 feet wide?

The mind reels...

It never ceases to amaze me what kite flyers will try next ;-)

Gotta fly!

Bri

David Forsyth

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Jul 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/9/98
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Brian Todd wrote:
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> Looooong Lines... (was Web Site Updates)
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> Andy Wardley <a...@kfs.org> wrote:
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> > Flying kites on 150' lines? How ridiculous can you get?

you're kidding right? my lines are only a little shorter than that and
I like them, let's see, 131 feet. though sometimes when tungin a foil
I wish for half that length (-:

> Apparently *VERY* ridiculous.
> Yesterday, Dan Whitney of Gone With The Wind Kites informed me that
> he had customer(s) who were flying Paraflex's on 500 foot line sets!
>
> Imagine buying, sleeving, tying and equalizing a 1000 foot roll of
> 200-300# Spectra to make 1 line set!

no that's rediculous

Gene Matocha

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Jul 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/9/98
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Brian Todd wrote:

> Looooong Lines... (was Web Site Updates)
>
> Andy Wardley <a...@kfs.org> wrote:
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> > Flying kites on 150' lines? How ridiculous can you get?
>

> Apparently *VERY* ridiculous.
>

Speaking of long lines...I am thinking of using long lines so I cen get
to those strong, clean winds above the surface - you know - the JET
STREAM! Yes, that's right...50-60MPH in a buggy? HA! We are talking
150MPH+...and that's on a DOWNWIND RUN! Now, if I could just afford the
100,000 feet of 300# spectra...anyone wanna' make a contribution?

Gene Matocha
"Your other choice in Genes"
:)

Steve Bateman

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Jul 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/9/98
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David Forsyth wrote:
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> Brian Todd wrote:
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> > Looooong Lines... (was Web Site Updates)
> >
> > Andy Wardley <a...@kfs.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Flying kites on 150' lines? How ridiculous can you get?

On the dry lake beds, the wind can drop off down at ground
level to 3-5mph in the evening. But the wind 100' up or
so can be 10mph. 200' lines gets the kite up there, with
enough leway to drop the kite into the power.

Gosh, I gotta buggy soon...

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Colin Douthwaite

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Jul 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/11/98
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Brian Todd <brian...@pieinc.org> wrote:
>Looooong Lines... (was Web Site Updates)


>Andy Wardley <a...@kfs.org> wrote:

>> Flying kites on 150' lines? How ridiculous can you get?

>Apparently *VERY* ridiculous.

Huh? Colour me doubly ridiculous!

I like my lines to be 300' or 100 metres.

Stafford Wallace has been reported as flying Indian Fighters with
finger-tip control at more than 1000 feet.

It's the old story of "Horses for Courses"...and "Longlines for Loonies"?


>Where do you fly a kite where the swept area of the lines is 500 feet
>deep and 1000 feet wide?

The beach with an onshore wind?

Bye,

Troy Gunn

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Jul 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/12/98
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Troy Gunn


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Axelman108

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Jul 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/12/98
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>Some of you that think 150ft. or longer line lengths are 'Rediculous",
>probably only fly radical trick kites or quadline kites. And some of
>you have never competed and have never had
>the need to use longer lines.
>
>So don't call long lines "Ridiculous" unless you've "been there, done
>that" ! Some of you obviously haven't .

Well said Troy!

I entered my first compitition a couple weeks ago in Columbia, Missouri and I
sure could have used some 120' lines to do the compulsories. Most of the line
sets in my bag were no longer than 80' or so, it made it very difficult to do
steps down just couldn't seem to get that last step out of my lines. Never the
less I will be cutting some new lines very shortly some 125' & 150' to get use
to. I still like to trick on 75' though but I saw some Master flyers perform
the same tricks with 125' lines. Go figure!

Ted

Axelman108
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"UNLESS THERE IS OPPOSING WIND, A KITE CANNOT RISE"
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Robert Hawkins

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Jul 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/12/98
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What's the use of long lines? Ask that to "Super Dave" Lavitodd of Miami
FL. His three-stack of Flexi's are common sight over the Hotel Buildings
along South Beach. He has 500+ ft line sets and can do half-block long
sweeps over the roof-tops. Totally Awesome!

The more members on a flight team, the more need for room to stretch
out. Also, if you get a chance to see a mulit-stack team like The Bay
Area Sundowners in action, you'll notice how long lines will instantly
give you the ability to "paint-the-sky". Ain't nothin' like it.
Hawk

'...when it comes to information,
I'm full of it!


Troy Gunn

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Jul 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/12/98
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Ozone jim

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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>What's the use of long lines? Ask that to "Super Dave" Lavitodd of Miami
>FL. His three-stack of Flexi's are common sight over the Hotel Buildings
>along South Beach. He has 500+ ft line sets and can do half-block long
>sweeps over the roof-tops. Totally Awesome!

"Super Dave" not only flys three 10ft Flexi's but also five 10ft Flexi's on
500lb 500+ft lines. He is not a big man in size, only in ability.

Jim Strealy
Keep It Up

Kevin Richards

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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Ozone jim wrote in message
<199807140110...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
think their missing the point Andy
yea I fly long lines as well
sometimes as long as 35ft
definitely helps with the flying
cos you spend more time flying and less time winding the lines up


Andy Wardley

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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Kevin Richards <k...@box-of-tricks.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>yea I fly long lines as well
>sometimes as long as 35ft
>definitely helps with the flying

True. Short line sharpen the reflexes and help you to learn about your
kite in great intimacy. Working down from longish lines (70'+) to short
lines (say 40') takes some time and a lot of practice.

The challenge then is to grow back from 40' to 70' and see if you can still
do all the stuff that you could do on 40'. It becomes harder because you
have more slack in the lines making the kite less responsive to user input.

The big advantage is that you have so much more room and time to play with.
When you can fly on 70' lines like you can fly on 40' then you really start
to discover what Freestyle Flying is all about.

Being able to use the whole window or close down and work in minute detail
in one small part of it gives you greater opportunity for contrast, style
and variation. The very fact that you have a larger window means that you
can pull a 2k+ Corkscrew (2000+ degrees, i.e. 6+ rotations) down the window
and finish off in a nice Flic-Flac above the ground instead of pulling a
triple and hitting the ground because you ran out of space.

Now does that sounds good? :-)=

These are all my own thoughts, of course. Everyone has their preferences
and this just happens to be mine at the moment...

I was talking to Blapp Setter (Senior Public Liaison for International
Freestyle Flying) at the weekend and he said to me:

"Andy, you must always do your own thing.
Be unique, but always be yourself."

Wise words from Blapp, there, I think.


A


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bi...@ukonline.co.uk

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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Senior Public Liaison for InternationalFreestyle Flying? S.P.L.I.F.F.?

Natalie {:o)

Andy Wardley

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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>Senior Public Liaison for InternationalFreestyle Flying? S.P.L.I.F.F.?

Complete coincidence. He's an Absolutely Bloody Wonderful bloke.

de...@impsat1.com.ar

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Jul 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/28/98
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In article <6oktnn$j1e$1...@morse.news.easynet.net>,

bi...@ukonline.co.uk wrote:
> Senior Public Liaison for InternationalFreestyle Flying? S.P.L.I.F.F.?
>
> Natalie {:o)
>

Yes, I sure believe that a SPLIFF (Senior Public Liason for International
Freestyle Flying) should always be present on any flying field !!

We actually elect various of these officers every time we go flying.....

Hugs & Kisses to all nice and ugly fliers.

Andrea

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