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Ishmael

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Aug 12, 2001, 11:21:52 PM8/12/01
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I have checked this message and it is not in the hoax lists. May be someone
can give an idea whether it 's work.

To avoid spreading computer viruses, create a contact in your email address
book with the name : !0000 with no email address in the details. This
contact will then show up as your first contact. If a virus attempts to do a
"send all" on your contact list, your pc will put up an error message saying
that: "The Message could not be sent. One or more recipients do not have an
e-mail address. Please check your Address Book and make sure all the
recipients have a valid e-mail address." You click on OK and the offending
(virus) message would not have been sent to anyone. Of course no changes
have been made to your original contacts list. The offending (virus) message
may then be automatically stored in your "Drafts" or "Outbox" folder. Go in
there and delete the offending message. Problem is solved and virus is not
spread. Try this and pass on to your email contacts.

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Regards,
Fauzy Nurjayady Mohamad

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Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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Steve Sprague

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Aug 12, 2001, 11:49:31 PM8/12/01
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At the risk of being completely uninformed, I think this is a good idea!
Thanks for the tip. If there is no downside to this or workaround for the bad
guys, I think this would make a good tip for my site as well.

Steve Sprague, MCP
eAegis http://www.stormpages.com/eaegis


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Zvi Netiv

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Aug 13, 2001, 2:52:53 AM8/13/01
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"Ishmael" <nos...@thongkh.po.my> wrote:

> I have checked this message and it is not in the hoax lists. May be someone
> can give an idea whether it 's work.
>
> To avoid spreading computer viruses, create a contact in your email address
> book with the name : !0000 with no email address in the details. This
> contact will then show up as your first contact. If a virus attempts to do a
> "send all" on your contact list, your pc will put up an error message saying
> that: "The Message could not be sent. One or more recipients do not have an
> e-mail address. Please check your Address Book and make sure all the
> recipients have a valid e-mail address." You click on OK and the offending
> (virus) message would not have been sent to anyone. Of course no changes
> have been made to your original contacts list. The offending (virus) message
> may then be automatically stored in your "Drafts" or "Outbox" folder. Go in
> there and delete the offending message. Problem is solved and virus is not
> spread. Try this and pass on to your email contacts.

Effective like aspirin as a contraceptive. Works well if held tightly between
the knees. ;)

Zvi

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Aug 13, 2001, 5:22:45 AM8/13/01
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var ya=new Array(bla bla list of email addresses);var enu=0;var y=new
Array()
for(address in ya)
{if(address[ya].search(/@/)>-1){y[enu]=address[ya];enu++}}
I dont think it will work if even the most basic email vallidation is done,
what about worms that attach themselves just to the emails you send

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Steve Sprague

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Aug 13, 2001, 6:39:05 AM8/13/01
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Ok, I dont code so would you be kind enough to explain this? :-)

Steve


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Steve Sprague

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Aug 13, 2001, 6:39:49 AM8/13/01
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Can you explain why this isnt a good idea?

Steve


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Patricia A. Shaffer

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Aug 13, 2001, 11:00:16 AM8/13/01
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:52:53 +0300, Zvi Netiv <z...@invircible.com>
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ROTFL!

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FromTheRafters

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Aug 13, 2001, 3:15:52 PM8/13/01
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"Ishmael" <nos...@thongkh.po.my> wrote in message
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> I have checked this message and it is not in the hoax lists. May be someone
> can give an idea whether it 's work.
>
> To avoid spreading computer viruses, create a contact in your email address
> book with the name : !0000 with no email address in the details. This
> contact will then show up as your first contact. If a virus attempts to do a
> "send all" on your contact list, your pc will put up an error message saying
> that: "The Message could not be sent. One or more recipients do not have an
> e-mail address. Please check your Address Book and make sure all the
> recipients have a valid e-mail address." You click on OK and the offending
> (virus) message would not have been sent to anyone. Of course no changes
> have been made to your original contacts list. The offending (virus) message
> may then be automatically stored in your "Drafts" or "Outbox" folder. Go in
> there and delete the offending message. Problem is solved and virus is not
> spread. Try this and pass on to your email contacts.
>
> --------------
> Regards,
> Fauzy Nurjayady Mohamad
>
Sounds plausible, but -
If it has made the attempt to e-mail itself, you are probably
already infected with it. If it uses your mail client, I think it can
bypass the warning and you wouldn't know it until you got the
MAILER-DAEMON undeliverable mail message. If it is
harvesting e-mail addresses, it probably knows what one
looks like and would not even try that one.


Steve Sprague

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Aug 13, 2001, 5:14:52 PM8/13/01
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"FromTheRafters" <go...@nomad.net> wrote in message
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Right. The goal of this tactic is to prevent the spread of the virus, so the
goal is accomplished.

If it uses your mail client, I think it can
> bypass the warning and you wouldn't know it until you got the
> MAILER-DAEMON undeliverable mail message. If it is
> harvesting e-mail addresses, it probably knows what one
> looks like and would not even try that one.

It would have to have part of the code tell it to ignore that address. Not
hard to do, but this is an obscure "prevention method" and I dont think too
many kiddies would think to put that in or would even know how.

Steve

>
>


MuffinMan

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Aug 13, 2001, 6:13:39 PM8/13/01
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He wrote some crap psudocode which iterates through emailaddresses looking
for @ signs and ignores addresses that doesn't have it... he's also right
when he says it wont work... it's basically crap!

He wants to show that this idea sucks because it is easily avoidable.
However, he is missing the entire point. This is a good idea and anything
you can do to increase you own computersafety is good! The original post
never said that this would completly stop all viruses, only that it would
help.

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anathema

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Aug 14, 2001, 3:44:49 AM8/14/01
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Melissa <willkayakforfood@REMOVE_THISgmx.net> said in
alt.comp.virus:
> There's another way to go about this, and for the moment, it's
> "basic" version is still free. "MailDefense":
> http://www.indefense.com/products/maildefense.html

However, M@ilDedfence recently sent out a mass-mailing to all of its
subscribers, putting their addresses in the cc: rather than the bcc:
field (posted and discussed in alt.virus last week). I, personally,
am not about to trust myself to a company that does not know the
difference between bcc: and cc:.

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Bart Bailey

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Aug 14, 2001, 2:52:04 PM8/14/01
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Melissa wrote:

<~~~>

>
> It's no substitute for practicing safe hex and using a good anti-
> virus, but it could really help to reduce the number of infections -
> both "installed" and sent. It gives the click-happy user a chance
> to think

a chance given doesn't mean a chance taken :-(

> before executing anything, and if they go ahead and execute
> an infected attachment anyway, it can prevent them from sending the
> infection along.

That's what I thought would be its best application,
as an answer to those sysadmins who complain about their users refusal to
adopt safe hex.

~~Bart~~

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