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The REAL Terrorists! (part 1)

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Jason

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Apr 27, 2002, 10:08:19 PM4/27/02
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If Osama bin Laden is the man behind the attack that caused the death of
thousands of Americans on September 11, I want to him to suffer the ultimate
punishment for his crime. No person or nation that commits terrorism against
any nation should escape punishment.
But now I am going to make a statement that may well shock you. If you agree
that those who commit terrorist acts against America should be punished,
then America should put Israel at the top of the hit list. Israel has
committed deliberate acts of murderous terrorism and treachery against
America.
Israel's acts of terrorism and treachery against America have not only gone
unpunished, but have been rewarded by politicians who have treasonously
betrayed the United States. Israel has committed more continuing terrorism
in the last half century than any other nation on earth.

Why was America attacked?
No one would argue that whatever his motivations, if bin Laden was behind
the horror of the WTC attacks, he deserves punishment for killing so many
innocent people. At the same time, it is vital that we know why bin Laden
and millions of others around the world have come to hate America. Why are
so many willing to risk or even sacrifice their lives to get at America. I
certainly hope no one reading this is so naīve as to believe that the
growing millions who hate America do so because Americans are "free." That
canard has to be the most ridiculous notion ever sold to the American people
since the pet rock.

To end the threat of terrorism against the American people, we must know the
true reason why Americans are so hated. Modern technology makes mass murder
and terrorism so ridiculously easy that just about anyone can do it. It
cannot be stopped by military might. In fact, even the brute force Americans
are using in Afghanistan supposedly to wipe out terror -- already shows
signs of whipping up enough world-wide hatred against America to give rise
to a thousand new terrorists for every one terrorist they might kill.
I also wonder what the kill ratio is in Afghanistan. Perhaps 1 member of the
al-Qaida network is killed for every 10 run-of-the-mill Afghan soldiers and
civilians who are basically just trying to get through their own lives like
the rest of us. Or maybe it's 1 terrorist for a 100 Afghanis. I suspect the
real figure is more like a 1000 non-terrorists dead for the life of 1
genuine terrorist who might ever bother America.
Perhaps we should have enough courage to consider the possible reasons why
so many might hate Americans. Only when we have all the facts, rather than
cute little clichés like "They were attacking freedom," can we decide the
best way we can protect American people in the future.
By the way, how do we define an "attack on American freedom?" I would say
that a real "attack on freedom" is trashing the Bill of Rights and the
Constitution of the United States. The Ten Amendments are the very core of
what American freedom actually is. George Bush and the U.S. Congress, armed
with the newspeak U.S.A. Patriot Act, did infinitely more to take away
American Constitutional freedoms than bin Laden ever could.
The real reason America has suffered the terrorism of the WTC attack is
shockingly simple.
Too many American politicians have treasonously betrayed the American people
by blindly supporting the leading terrorist nation on earth: Israel.
The American mass media and the government cannot have it both ways. If they
are motivated to attack Afghanistan for giving aid and comfort to
terrorists, then some Palestinians naturally find motivation to attack
America for giving aid and even military support to Israel, a nation that
has committed unrelenting terrorism against them.

Traitors to the United States have allowed a terrorist foreign nation to
control the United States Government. Some readers might think it
preposterous for me to assert that that a foreign nation controls America.
But, consider the fact that the former head of the United States Senate
Foreign Relations Committee, William Fulbright, said precisely that. He
asserted on ABC's Face the Nation television program that "Israel Controls
the United States Senate." And, Senator Fulbright was no dummy; it is in his
name that the brightest students scramble after the so-named "Fulbright"
scholarships. Not only did Senator Fulbright make this powerful indictment,
but the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, George Brown, as well
as many others, have said essentially the same thing.
We can say we can't possibly get the Congress to support a (Israeli) program
like this. And they say don't worry about the Congress. We will take care of
the Congress. This is somebody from another country, but they can do it.
They own, you know, the banks in this country, the newspapers. Just look at
where the Jewish money is. - (General George S. Brown, former Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff)

Of course, General Brown actually understated the Jewish control of the
American media. It is true that they control the most influential newspapers
in America, including the top three: The New York Times, the Washington Post
and the Wall Street Journal. They also own the top three newsmagazines Time,
Newsweek and U.S. News and World Report. But, even more importantly, they
thoroughly dominate the television and broadcast media, the two largest
media conglomerates being Time-Warner and Disney, and their domination
includes the network news executives of the main three networks: ABC, CBS
and NBC. The extreme pro-Israeli partisanship of the media is why most
Americans are woefully ignorant of Israel's terrorist record. All this
article needs to do is apply just a tiny pinprick into the balloon of
Israeli propaganda, for it will take only a few good jabs to burst the
balloon of lies surrounding Israel.
I will show you documentary evidence that during the last 50 years Israel
has engaged in more murderous terrorism than any other nation in the world;
and that by supporting its criminal behavior, America is now reaping the
fanatical hatred of hundreds of millions of people around the globe. Support
for Israel's terrorism has directly led to the terrorism now going on
against the United States. Most Americans don't even realize the magnitude
and scope of Israeli terrorism because of the Jewish media control mentioned
by General Brown. A pertinent example of their incredible media power is
their ability to propagate the Big Lie that the WTC attack had nothing at
all to do with Israel; that the kamikaze attackers hated and attacked
Americans because they are "free."

The Jewish-dominated American mass media and the Israeli-controlled
politicians do not want the American people to fully realize the incredibly
high price America pays for blindly supporting Israel. In the aftermath of
the attacks on September 11, 2001, even President Bush repeated the absurd
lie, alleging the attack happened because they hate the fact that Americans
are free. If, as the media says, bin Laden is behind the terrorism, then
they know that the attack occurred not because he hates freedom. Just three
years ago, ABC television and PBS Frontline interviewed bin Laden during the
time of the Clinton administration. Bin Laden clearly stated why he opposed
America:

" They (Americans) have put themselves at the mercy of a disloyal
government,. it is Israel inside America. Take the sensitive ministries such
as the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense and the CIA, you will
find that the Jews have the upper hand in them. They make use of America to
further their plans for the world. For over half a century, Muslims in
Palestine have been (by the Jews) slaughtered and assaulted and robbed of
their honor and of their property. Their houses have been blasted, their
crops destroyed.This is my message to the American people: to look for a
serious government that looks out for their interests and does not attack
other people's lands, or other people's honor."

Notwithstanding any of his alleged crimes, bin Laden has never in his entire
life uttered a word against Democracy! The media invented the lie about
attacking Democracy to hide the real truth; that America is being attacked
in retaliation for the American government's support of Israel's terrorist
policies in the Mideast. The unanimity of the media in propagating this huge
lie without contradiction should make every thoughtful person suspect that
Americans are not getting the whole truth from the media.

First, let's take a look at Israel's terrorism against the Palestinians.
Israel: a mass murderer as Head of State
Israel's Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, is one of the world's most
bloodstained terrorists. He is responsible for the cold-blooded slaughter of
at least 1,500 men, women and children in the Beirut refugee camps of
Chatila and Sabra. Even a formal Israeli commission found Sharon personally
responsible for the Lebanese massacres.

In 1982, as Israel's defense minister, Sharon directed Israel's invasion of
Lebanon and the carpet bombing and devastation of the city of Beirut (In
Lebanon five times more women and children died than in the September New
York attack). This terror bombing was carried out by Jews using jet fighters
and bombs supplied by the United States.
After the Israeli military devastation and occupation, Sharon forcibly
removed Palestinian resistance fighters from Lebanon. Many Palestinian
women, children and old people were left behind in refugee camps near
Beirut. The United States publicly guaranteed their safety and promised that
they would quickly be reunited with their loved ones. When Sharon plotted
their murder, he not only planned a bloody act of terrorism against the
refugees; he knew it was an act of treachery against the United States that
would raise intense hatred against America.
On the night of September 16, 1982, Sharon sent Phalangist murder squads
into two Palestinian refugee camps, Sabra and Chatila. With Israeli tanks
and troops closely surrounding the camps to prevent any of the Palestinians
from escaping, the murder squads machine-gunned, bayoneted, and bludgeoned
Palestinian civilians all that night, the next day and the following night;
all while the Israelis surrounding the camps listened gleefully to the
machine gun fire and screams coming from inside. Sharon then sent in
bulldozers to hide as much of the atrocity as he could. At least 1500
Palestinian men, women and children were butchered, and perhaps as many as
2500. (An official Lebanese investigation set the figure at 2500) Even after
the efforts of Sharon's bulldozers, many Palestinians remained unburied, and
Red Cross workers found whole families; including hundreds of elderly and
little children, with their throats cut or disemboweled. Uncounted numbers
of women and girls were also raped before they were slaughtered.
Ariel Sharon is sought for trial by the Hague Tribunal, the same body that
succeeded in extraditing former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic for
charges of crimes against humanity in Kosovo. Sharon will not travel to
Belgium for fear of arrest by the International Court for the massacre.
Although he is sought for his Chatila and Sabra murders, Sharon could be
tried for any of a dozen other massacres committed during his sterling
career, crimes against humanity that go back at least as far as 1953. The
Israeli newspaper, Ha'aretz, recalls Sharon's leading of a massacre in the
village of Kibya in 1953, "The soldiers of Major Ariel Sharon killed 70
Palestinians in the reprisal raid, most of them women and children.


Chesspride

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Apr 27, 2002, 10:14:19 PM4/27/02
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> hundreds of millions of people around the globe. Support
>for Israel's terrorism has directly led to the terrorism now going on
>against the United States. Most

Take your isolationism and fantasies somewhere else.

You live in a dream world...where you think that if you "play nice" with the
opposition, they will leave you alone.

Betraying allies (Israel, Taiwan) is not the way to achieve peace -- it is
surely the way to end up in a war.

ECJ

drahmiel

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Apr 27, 2002, 11:21:42 PM4/27/02
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>From: "Jason" xeno...@shaw.ca

>If Osama bin Laden is the man behind the attack that caused the death of
>thousands of Americans

(remainder of inflammatory rant snipped)

This post is not appropriate for this newsgroup. I suggest you look into
Alt.Security.Terrorism or Alt.flame.jews . Im sure you will find plenty of
people there who share your love of hate-filled invective. Maybe you'll even
make your first friend! Good luck!


Jason

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Apr 27, 2002, 11:39:45 PM4/27/02
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I really pity you drahmiel! You are so brainwashed and dead-set against me
personally that I could post about the sky being blue and that 2 + 2 = 4 and
you would probably contest it. Your blindness and stupidity is so sever that
you continue to slander me with lies and do not even attempt to refute any
of the facts that I have posted. Enjoy your slumber. Perhaps there is hope
for you yet, though I doubt it.


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Todd E. Flambers

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Apr 28, 2002, 6:24:35 AM4/28/02
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Jason, you enjoy those things so much one must understand you are a
potentiomal creep. Or, rather not potentional but impotentional

Ofergneezy II

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Apr 28, 2002, 9:54:32 AM4/28/02
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"Jason" <xeno...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<nQIy8.47330$zj6.1...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>...

[probable copyrighted material snipped]

It's obvious you didn't write this stuff, for several reasons:

1. It's not filled with spelling and grammatical errors.

2. It's not filled with racial epithets.

3. You have the intelligence and attention span of an ant.

But if I find out who did, I'll be glad to let them know you lifted it.

drahmiel

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Apr 28, 2002, 6:30:44 PM4/28/02
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>From: "Jason" xeno...@shaw.ca

>I really pity you drahmiel! You are so brainwashed and dead-set against me
>personally that I could post about the sky being blue and that 2 + 2 = 4 and
>you would probably contest it.

Ah, the mating call of the ignorant. Whoever disagrees with you must be
"brainwashed". I find it ironic that those who cry about people being
"brainwashed by the liberal media" are the ones spouting the same unwavering
line , and the supposedly "brainwashed" ones all present different, cogent
arguments without consistently resorting to personal attacks. But then,
hypocrisy is sort of your forte, isn't it Jase? I suppose your ego is so great
that it never ocurred to you that I have not a single reason to have any issue
with you personally, as I neither know, nor care, who you are, and for that
matter, neither does anyone else.

Jason

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Apr 28, 2002, 8:41:30 PM4/28/02
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"drahmiel" <drah...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20020428183044...@mb-cg.aol.com...

> >From: "Jason" xeno...@shaw.ca
>
> >I really pity you drahmiel! You are so brainwashed and dead-set against
me
> >personally that I could post about the sky being blue and that 2 + 2 = 4
and
> >you would probably contest it.

>
> "Ah, the mating call of the ignorant. Whoever disagrees with you must be"


NOT TRUE, I totally welcome disagreement! But you and your simpleton
buddies here don't disagree with me! You slander and attack me personally
because you know deep down inside that all of the information that I have
posted is 100 % true. You AVOID all discussion of the issues and try to
negate my factual assertions by throwing around buzzwords like "Nazi" and
"anti-Semite". This practice of yours is obvious to anyone with a brain.


"> "brainwashed". I find it ironic that those who cry about people being
> "brainwashed by the liberal media" are the ones spouting the same
unwavering
> line"

Are you on drugs? where in the popular media do you find the information I
am talking about? The Jews make sure that this information is as difficult
to obtain as possible.

", and the supposedly "brainwashed" ones all present different, cogent
> arguments"


I am still waiting for one of your so called "cogent" arguments. You have
proven that you are incapable of such and argument and know only how to make
personal attacks on the opposition.


"without consistently resorting to personal attacks. But then,
> hypocrisy is sort of your forte, isn't it Jase? I suppose your ego is so
great
> that it never ocurred to you that I have not a single reason to have any
issue
> with you personally,"

You continue with your personal attacks still not refuting any of my
assertions. How much more evidence does this NG need.

" as I neither know, nor care, who you are, and for that
> matter, neither does anyone else."


So you have taken it upon yourself to be the spokesman of the NG have you.


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