"Crossing Jordan"
Kayleigh19
writing for Cox shoulda been like.
And, wasn't it a kick in the pants to see Kyle (who, ladies, looked good enough
to eat, BTW) telling Jordan not to get "so wrapped up in a case...." :) Plus,
the promos for the show, playing Garbage's "Only Happy When it Rains", really
put me in a Fells Point frame of mind!
Any thoughts out there? Luna's of the opinion that it reeked, because, and I
quote:"it was so stealing from CSI and shit." She did mention that Kyle
looked good, so I'll spare her a date with the flail for now.
Kayleigh
Martha K.
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He looked very, very good. I have never called myself a Bayliss Babe, but
tonight I could possibly pass for one. Liked the bondage, too.
As for the rest, I hated Ravi Kapoor's character, or rather I hated that he
is playing such a silly one. He was one of my favorite things about
Gideon's Crossing. (Crossing? Am I having a memory slippage? Crossing
Delancey? A great movie. I loved Peter Riegert in it...) What did anyone
think of the artsy sequences? They were sort of cool and icky and spooky at
the same time. Miguel Ferrer was fine, although his character is sort of
the dark side of Ally McBeal's John Cage.
Mostly I want to say how strange it felt to be watching a drama about death
in order to be entertained. I found the previews for L&O: Criminal Intent
and UC:Undercover to be disturbing. I guess I've had enough violence for
now, and even TV drama images of people wielding guns feel a bit strong at
the moment.
Martha K.
La Reina
Well, being it's the first real week of the new season, it's too soon for me to
decide whether I like the show. Right now anything new is novel, so even crummy
shows might have an edge.
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I love Miguel Ferrar anyway, and he was good. Loved the sock puppet, and his
final scene of the episode was excellent.
And who here suspected our pal who "crossed" over from Gideon to Jordan would
be relegated to comic relief? He was fun though. I loved that they all have
their own little obsessions to keep them sane. Or not.
The one thing that kind of creeped me out was the "victim or killer?" sequence.
Hey, luna,--at least it didn't steal CSI's all-consuming need to over-explain
every step of the investigation ten times.
It was good to see Kyle in a Bayliss-esque role again, but *another* killer
detective? Seems some casting agents are taking his "killer good looks" a bit
too literally.
Still need to see more before I decide if the show is worth sticking with.
Reina De Paréntesis
Laurel Krahn
>Okay, I watched this tonight, and I'm stuck by one thought -- this is what the
>writing for Cox shoulda been like.
Amen to that.
>And, wasn't it a kick in the pants to see Kyle (who, ladies, looked good enough
>to eat, BTW) telling Jordan not to get "so wrapped up in a case...." :) Plus,
>the promos for the show, playing Garbage's "Only Happy When it Rains", really
>put me in a Fells Point frame of mind!
Seeing Kyle play a Homicide detective made me swoon. Or something.
Gave me a pang? Reminded me how much I've missed Bayliss and
Homicide. Is he forever typecast? Do we mind? I loved seeing
Braugher play a detective in the movie _Frequency_ for much the same
reason.
>Any thoughts out there? Luna's of the opinion that it reeked, because, and I
>quote:"it was so stealing from CSI and shit." She did mention that Kyle
>looked good, so I'll spare her a date with the flail for now.
I've still never seen an episode of CSI, though (of course) I'm
familiar with it. Lots of people have joked this show is a cross
between Providence and CSI.
I dunno. I liked this first episode. Not super fabulous knock your
socks off stuff, but a decent pilot episode.
I'm hoping that Ravi Kapoor's character gets more screen time and more
. . . well, *something* as the series goes on. Ditto for other
supporting characters.
Really liked Hennessy in the role. Think the show's got potential and
I'll likely be watching it since I never really got into Family Law.
Y'all should be checking my tv picks this week, it's busy busy busy
what with all the premieres and stuff. www.tvpicks.net
(how's that for a blatant plug?)
--
Laurel Krahn | www.windowseat.org | www.tvpicks.net
Todd
thus spake:
I was sitting at my computer when suddenly I had my PervAlert go off.
It said the word "bondage" was being discussed in A.T.H. so here I be.
Can't believe I missed a Jill Hennessy outing but the last thing we
need is another medical show.
Todd
Martha K.
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It hardly seemed like a medical show. She's all about solving the crimes;
unlike Juliana Cox, she gets in trouble for it.
Hmm, the Perv Alert is working? No more sneaking up on Todd, I guess,
Chicks.
Martha K.
RESchwalb
<< Any thoughts out there? Luna's of the opinion that it reeked, because, and
I quote: "it was so stealing from CSI and shit." She did mention that Kyle
looked good, so I'll spare her a date with the flail for now. >>
Martha K. opined:
<< He looked very, very good. I have never called myself a Bayliss Babe, but
tonight I could possibly pass for one. Liked the bondage, too. >>
Indeed.
<< As for the rest, I hated Ravi Kapoor's character, or rather I hated that he
is playing such a silly one. He was one of my favorite things about
Gideon's Crossing . . . Miguel Ferrer was fine . . . >>
Yes, and yes. I fear that RK has been reduced to comic relief. Miguel Ferrer
was the best thing about the show, much more interesting than Jill Hennesy. Of
course, it shoulda been Michelle Forbes. IMHO.
Robin
James
>
>Yes, and yes. I fear that RK has been reduced to comic relief. Miguel
>Ferrer
>was the best thing about the show, much more interesting than Jill Hennesy.
>Of
>course, it shoulda been Michelle Forbes. IMHO.
Three questions:
1) Does Jill have one of those characters who is always right, wades through
tons of paper tigers who exist only so she can show them up as buffoons, but
has a few flaws to show us she's human after all?
2) How bad was the writing for Ravi?
3) I taped the first ep. Is it even worth watching?
RESchwalb
<< 1) Does Jill have one of those characters who is always right, wades through
tons of paper tigers who exist only so she can show them up as buffoons, but
has a few flaws to show us she's human after all? >>
Bingo.
<< 2) How bad was the writing for Ravi? >>
It wasn't the individual lines that were bad, rather, the conception of the
character: as a one-note, quirky depressive. "What a waste."
<< 3) I taped the first ep. Is it even worth watching? >>
It *looks* good--aside from Kyle's mouth, which looks *very* good; it's snappy,
and moves right along. Worth watching for Miguel Ferrer. Just don't think
about the preposterous plot, or the whole thing'll fall apart. I admit I
haven't seen much Lawn Order, so have little history with Jill Hennesy. She
does an okay job, I guess, but see your own comment #1, above. Besides,
episodic dramas that rely too much on one central character having adventures
get old, fast. IMHO.
Robin
uk...@mindspring.com
>Three questions:
>
>1) Does Jill have one of those characters who is always right, wades through
>tons of paper tigers who exist only so she can show them up as buffoons, but
>has a few flaws to show us she's human after all?
Yes and No. No wading through paper tigers and for a "few flaws" read
"fairly fucked up".
>2) How bad was the writing for Ravi?
More non-existent than bad. We saw him briefly a time or two
functioning as light comedy. I assume he'll usually do more than
this.
>3) I taped the first ep. Is it even worth watching?
Good question. You do hate the slightest whiff of cliche and
"Crossing Jordan" emanates a certain reek.
I enjoyed it enough to try it for a few eps. I liked Henessy, very
much liked Ferrer, and give no kind of damn if they ripped off "CSI".
Remember, though, that I'm notorious for my bad taste. I didn't like
"Sports Night", detest "ER", don't care for "The West Wing" or "Ally
McBeal" and watched every episode of "Witchblade".
--
Shel
La Reina
>
>Three questions:
a little space, just in case...
>
>1) Does Jill have one of those characters who is always right, wades through
>tons of paper tigers who exist only so she can show them up as buffoons,
>but
>has a few flaws to show us she's human after all?
Jordan is almost *all* flaws. She's got issues, she's got anger, she doesn't
play by the rules. Almost too many flaws.
>
>2) How bad was the writing for Ravi?
Let's see....if memory serves the writing for him was pretty much:
(Whatever his character's name is) rummages through office, obsessively
searching for something. Then...
RAVI: Has anyone seen my larvae?
People shoot him quizzical looks as he describes the container.
RAVI: They're about to hatch!
In a later scene he's still frantically searching (the same room, I think).
Jordan and a co-worker enter, discussing the tiny office they share.
RAVI: There's ten dollars in it for anyone who finds my larvae.
And near the end, he's seen running through the halls chasing butterflies. He
catches one and says...
RAVI: Seven-hundred and twenty-six. (or whatever number.)
>
>3) I taped the first ep. Is it even worth watching?
See above and decide for yourself.
Reina De Paréntesis
James
>Yes and No. No wading through paper tigers and for a "few flaws" read
>"fairly fucked up".
Hmm. The tough-but-screwed-up-cookie role is horrible to watch when handled
incorrectly. I had my doubts about her character from those previews; maybe she
isn't so bad.
>
>More non-existent than bad. We saw him briefly a time or two
>functioning as light comedy. I assume he'll usually do more than
>this.
Hopefully. If not, he should avoid all shows with "Crossing" in the title.
>
>Good question. You do hate the slightest whiff of cliche and
>"Crossing Jordan" emanates a certain reek.
With all that leather, no wonder.
I don't hate cliches as much as I hate badly used cliches. For instance, I
could never accept the Robin Williams character in "Club Paradise" because of
the racist, elitist Simon Jones character who was in the early stage of the
film only so we'd see how wonderful Robin Williams was. When a cliche is used
because they think the viewer is an idiot, that pisses me off.
>
>Remember, though, that I'm notorious for my bad taste. I didn't like
>"Sports Night",
That makes absolutely no sense to me. Josh Charles? Felicity Huffman? Peter
Krause? If viewers like you had appreciated this witty gem, it would still be
on. Unfortunately, "Sports Night" was too good for tv. God bless Aaron Sorkin
and the country of Colombia for revitalizing television.
>detest "ER", don't care for "The West Wing" or "Ally
>McBeal" and watched every episode of "Witchblade".
I'll see your "Witchblade" and trade you a "Yes, Dear."
Kayleigh19
>I was sitting at my computer when suddenly I had my PervAlert go off.
>It said the word "bondage" was being discussed in A.T.H. so here I be.
>
>Can't believe I missed a Jill Hennessy outing but the last thing we
>need is another medical show.
>
>Todd
Well, Jill wears skimpy clothing, and there's not really much medical stuff so
far, although that may change.
"Jordan" is more of a dee-tective wannabe than a scientist. I mean, there were
a few references to autopsies and instruments, but it wasn't all "The Medical
Examiners." I'd classify her more in the vein of Temperance Brennan.
Kayleigh
(Sides, you got to see JH handcuff "Bayliss" to a bed, whilst munching on his
lips.)
Jennifer Hardy
>Any thoughts out there? Luna's of the opinion that it reeked, because, and I
>quote:"it was so stealing from CSI and shit." She did mention that Kyle
>looked good, so I'll spare her a date with the flail for now.
Eh....I watched the first half then turned it off. Hennessy's
character was way too precious and "quirky" (gawd I'm getting sick of
"quirky") for me. I wouldn't have wanted to spend 10 minutes in real
life with her so 30 minutes of make believe was more than enough.
Even Timmy looking luscious couldn't keep me tuned in.
Maybe I should mention that I never warmed up to Hennessy on L&O
either.
I may give it another try, but probably not. Keep posting your
reviews here, please, to help me with my indecision.
Cheers,
Jennifer
John
> tvfan wondered:
> > 2) How bad was the writing for Ravi?
>
> It wasn't the individual lines that were bad, rather, the conception
> of the character: as a one-note, quirky depressive. "What a waste."
Such a disappointment, after getting a glimpse of his dramatic talents
in Gideon's Crossing. To see him reduced to a role as the requisite
"ethnic eccentric" for cheap comic relief, when he could have been so
much more...
Miguel Ferrer is always great, but I wouldn't tune in just for him.
> Besides, episodic dramas that rely too much on one central character
> having adventures get old, fast. IMHO.
Very true.
-John-
(who gives Jordan's Crossing a "D" in his one-episode test drive)
Todd
Don't care for "The West Wing"? Are you hopped up on goofballs again?
Don't answer. It's a rhetorical question.
Todd
Todd
spake:
If they had to go with a medical examiner, they could have at least
given us Austin Pendleton.
Todd
Leslie LeBlanc
> If they had to go with a medical examiner, they could have at least
> given us Austin Pendleton.
I have no interest in seeing Austin cuff Timmy to a bed.
L
uk...@mindspring.com
>>Remember, though, that I'm notorious for my bad taste. I didn't like
>>"Sports Night",
>
>That makes absolutely no sense to me. Josh Charles? Felicity Huffman? Peter
>Krause? If viewers like you had appreciated this witty gem, it would still be
>on. Unfortunately, "Sports Night" was too good for tv. God bless Aaron Sorkin
>and the country of Colombia for revitalizing television.
I gave "Sports Night" two different whirls, but both times it failed
to snag me. I finally figured out that all the characters sounded
alike to me. They were all clever, witty, and well-spoken in exactly
the same way, as though they weren't so much separate individuals as
the same individual in different entities. It distracted me too much
to allow me to enjoy the show.
>I'll see your "Witchblade" and trade you a "Yes, Dear."
You may have won that one, then.
--
Shel
Matt Tauber
I wanted to click off in the first 5 minutes of this thing. She may as well
have been reading her dialogue off a teleprompter in the anger management
class. Then she just leaves her suitcase sitting in the airport. Can you
say "suspicious bag"? And she complains that no one helps her pick up her
stuff. Would Jordan have helped anyone?
I'm glad Ravi Kapoor got work, but I'll miss Sid all the more. Not enough
has been said about Ken Howard. Who remembers "White Shadow"? He really
fits the part here.
It was so great to see Kyle Secor back as a homicide detective after his
doctor gig didn't work out. Immediately I hoped we could see him back as a
recurring character...who knew he'd be the villain!?! Seeing Bayliss and
hearing John Hiatt in the soundtrack made me wish for those 'Homicide' days.
Now it's just wait and see how Brodie fares on "Thieves", and Falsone on
"UC:Undercover"
uk...@mindspring.com
wrote:
>Don't care for "The West Wing"? Are you hopped up on goofballs again?
>Don't answer. It's a rhetorical question.
If I watch "The West Wing" I'll just get annoyed that we don't
actually have a President and cabinet like that.
--
Shel
James
>
>I gave "Sports Night" two different whirls, but both times it failed
>to snag me. I finally figured out that all the characters sounded
>alike to me. They were all clever, witty, and well-spoken in exactly
>the same way, as though they weren't so much separate individuals as
>the same individual in different entities. It distracted me too much
>to allow me to enjoy the show.
Between the heavy-handed moralism, the bad performances from the leads, the
phony sentimentality, and the no-human-talks-this-way thesaurus dialogue, there
was little to enjoy. Only a few supporting players.
>
>>I'll see your "Witchblade" and trade you a "Yes, Dear."
>
>You may have won that one, then.
>
YD is usually a funny show, although the premiere wasn't one of the best. So
few sitcoms manage to make me laugh these days, they're mired in waste before
they even hit the air. You can see the bad one-liners screaming in pain and
agony, begging to be put to sleep, as they fly from a smirking mouth.
Or the sitcoms are unrelentingly bitter, or they take themselves too seriously.
I saw "Dharma and Greg" for the first time in a few years yesterday, and she's
in a wheelchair, having marriage problems?
RESchwalb
<< I have no interest in seeing Austin cuff Timmy to a bed. >>
How very disappointing. We may have to revoke your perv card, missy!
Trixie, glad for the distraction of a.t.h.
Todd
Point taken. If I hear one more talking head tell me how presidential
Bush is right now, I'm gonna lose it. Powell and Cheney are running
the show, and Dubya is the puppet they send out in front of the press.
He couldn't find Afghanistan on a map before he was appointed, now all
of a sudden we're supposed to believe he's this great foreign policy
expert and coalition builder? Anyone wanna buy a suspension bridge?
Todd
John
> Josh Charles? Felicity Huffman? Peter Krause? If viewers like you had
> appreciated this witty gem, it would still be on. Unfortunately,
> "Sports Night" was too good for tv. God bless Aaron Sorkin and the
> country of Colombia for revitalizing television.
Followed by:
> uk...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
> > I gave "Sports Night" two different whirls, but both times it failed
> > to snag me. I finally figured out that all the characters sounded
> > alike to me. They were all clever, witty, and well-spoken in
> > exactly the same way, as though they weren't so much separate
> > individuals as the same individual in different entities. It
> > distracted me too much to allow me to enjoy the show.
>
> Between the heavy-handed moralism, the bad performances from the
> leads, the phony sentimentality, and the no-human-talks-this-way
> thesaurus dialogue, there was little to enjoy. Only a few supporting
> players.
Ah, so you were being ironic with your comments the other day. Whew! I
had a hunch, but part of me was afraid you had borrowed some drapes from
morph.
And as we're all aware, Felicity Huffman is your favorite actress, bar
none.
-John-
(who agrees with the assessments of the dialogue)
Leslie LeBlanc
"RESchwalb" wrote:
Distraction = Trixie/Timmy/cuffs/NJTP. Call me pedestrian, but slash with
Austin & Tim holds no allure.
LL evol & etc. w/ apologies to John
Lauren
>
> I enjoyed it enough to try it for a few eps. I liked Henessy, very
> much liked Ferrer, and give no kind of damn if they ripped off "CSI".
> Remember, though, that I'm notorious for my bad taste. I didn't like
> "Sports Night", detest "ER", don't care for "The West Wing" or "Ally
> McBeal" and watched every episode of "Witchblade".
you think you have bad taste because you don't like "ER" or "Ally
McBeal"??? I'd say you have very *good* taste. I, OTOH, got
temporarily hooked on "Big Brother 2." now *that* is bad taste.
uk...@mindspring.com
wrote:
>Point taken. If I hear one more talking head tell me how presidential
>Bush is right now, I'm gonna lose it.
The news of Reagan's "newly-discovered" diagnosis of Alzheimer's less
than a year after he left office didn't come as any surprise, but at
least the man never lost the ability to deliver his lines with
conviction. Bush reminds me of a second-grader sent to read the high
school valedictorian's speech to the graduating class.
I know Unhurried is, like me, a fan of Non Sequitur. Has anyone else
seen the strip's thinly veiled pokes at politics? Bush's animal
counterpart, a monkey, looks alarmingly like him. (Never fear,
Republicans. Non Sequitur skewers both sides equally well).
I'm the most fond of Obvious Man.
>Powell and Cheney are running
>the show, and Dubya is the puppet they send out in front of the press.
For which I am profoundly grateful.
>He couldn't find Afghanistan on a map before he was appointed, now all
>of a sudden we're supposed to believe he's this great foreign policy
>expert and coalition builder? Anyone wanna buy a suspension bridge?
If Powell and Cheney find it expedient to give Dubya credit for their
efforts at this time in the name of confidence and unity, fine, as
long as they don't expect me to purchase said suspension bridge.
--
Shel
morpheus
Umm, Powell, Cheney and DADDY. Let's not forget daddy, cuz he like ran
the CIA, and umm Powell and Cheney are kinda like his men, and he um was
president before. of the united states. it's possible daddy may have
connections.....other than those he gets while travelling our incredibly
safe skies via commercial carriers, i mean.
I'm sure the west wing will cover all of this soon.....(sorey, that was
totally sarcastic)
morph- Osama can be a real martyr and off himself in the name of
mankind. We need to talk to his writers......
morpheus
i love felici..waita2nd. was i just insulted? or worshipped? it's tough
to tell these days. I agree with Shel, sports night was to clever/witty
dialogue from characters who shouldn't always be clever/witty.
I saw Jordan. Was nice to see Secor in a non-Bochco gig(the traitor!). I
can't form a judgement yet. I never did, and don't yet like
hennesy(ain't that a cognac?) but i think the show has promise. I think
the 1st ep was overly introductic. (it's a word now, meaning the stress
of laying groundwork of characters for future plots and dimensional
characterisations)((ain't ya glad there's a word for that now?))
I'll give it another view if possible, not optimistic, not writing it
off yet. I wanna see Kiefer!!!!!!
morph- met donald sutherland in vermont a month ago.....
Todd
spake:
The best thing we can do is take him alive and put him down in the
wussiest way possible--on a nice soft bed with a needle in his arm.
Not only do we get the satisfaction of watching him die, but he'll do
it in disgrace.
Todd
Pete B.
> The best thing we can do is take him alive and put him down in the
> wussiest way possible--on a nice soft bed with a needle in his arm.
> Not only do we get the satisfaction of watching him die, but he'll do
> it in disgrace.
I am about to propose a plan to the president regarding the training an army
of suicide pot-bellied pigs ('The Hamikaze") to parachute into Taliaban
headquarters strapped with bombs and automatic weapons. The message will be
"The Taliban does no even have enough status to warrant man-to-man combat so
we are sending trained animals to fight you!"
As I understand it the Taliban thinks us weak for using bombs and women
soldiers in our fight against them. It's even said they think it unmanly to
fire a rifle from the prone position (though they do it anyway). Let's see
what they make of 1,000,000 pounds of pistol-packing paramilitary
pot-bellied pork parachuting onto the Pashtun population.
Pete
uk...@mindspring.com
wrote:
>Now it's just wait and see how Brodie fares on "Thieves", and Falsone on
>"UC:Undercover"
I caught the last fifteen minutes of UC the other night. Tuned in
just in time to see Falsone get belted twice across the chops.
I laughed almost as hard as I did at Notre Dame's win/loss record.
--
Shel
Lauren
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:12:33 GMT, "Matt Tauber" <mta...@cinci.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Now it's just wait and see how Brodie fares on "Thieves", and Falsone on
> >"UC:Undercover"
>
> I caught the last fifteen minutes of UC the other night. Tuned in
> just in time to see Falsone get belted twice across the chops.
I really wasn't gonna watch this show, because I'm sure there are
other things on at the same time that are much more interesting, but
then I read this review:
http://www.teevee.org/archive/2001/10/04/index.html
I think this is what cinched it for me:
"But one thing that I cannot accept -- one casting decision that
simply doesn't hold water -- is Jon Seda playing an expert undercover
agent. As an actor, Seda seems to have trouble mastering one identity;
I'm supposed to believe he's capable of pulling off multiple ones?"
bwaahahahhahhhahahahhahaaaaa.
no seriously, Lauren
Pete B.
> given us Austin Pendleton.
>
> Todd
Console yourself with:
http://www.negcap.com/NC2/jill.jpg
Pete
Todd
thus spake:
Commencing consoling.
Todd
Kayleigh19
You slut.
Kayleigh
Pete B.
It actually was part of a larger and more interesting (but dated) piece at:
http://www.negcap.com/NC2/profaci_game.html
Pete the Prurient Perv
Kayleigh19
More like "Pete, the Priapic Perv."
Cool site, though. Love the Andre picture.
Kayleigh
Pete B.
at:
> >
> >http://www.negcap.com/NC2/profaci_game.html
> >
> >Pete the Prurient Perv
>
> More like "Pete, the Priapic Perv."
>
> Cool site, though. Love the Andre picture.
>
> Kayleigh
Yes - there was a lot of interesting commentary there although a bit was
somewhat dubious and inflammatory. Just the way I like it. (-:
Pete