John Comyn
Leo van de Pas
detailed and interesting answer. However, I would like to present the
ancestor list I have for this John Comyn.
Hopefully, some of the blanks can be filled in.
1.John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch
killed in battle 24 June 1314 Bannockburn
2.John Comyn 'the Red', Lord of Badenoch
murdered 10 February 1306 by Robert The Bruce
married before 1291
3.Joan de Valence
4.John Comyn 'the Black', Lord of Badenoch
died 1302
5.Alianore Baliol
6.William de Valence, Seigneur de Valence, Lord of Pembroke
died 1294/18 May 1296 in England
married 13 August 1247
7.Joan de Munchenay
8.John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch
died 1273
9.NN
10.John Baliol, of Bywell
died before 24 October 1268
married circa 1233
11.Devorguilla of Galloway
12.Hugues X 'le Brun' de Lusignan
Comte de La Marche et d'Angouleme
died after 15 January 1249
married circa 1217
13.Isabella d'Angouleme
born circa 1188
died 31 May 1246 Fontevraud
14.Warin de Munchenay, Lord of Swanscombe
15.Joan Marshal
16.Richard Comyn
died 1244
17.NN
20.Hugh Baliol, of Bywell
died 1229
21.Cecilia de Fontaines
22.Alan, Lord of Galloway
died 1234
married 1209
23.Margaret of Huntingdon
died 1233
24.Hugues 'le Brun' de Lusignan
Sire de Lusignan, Comte de La Marche
died November 1219 Damiette
25.Mahaut/Marie d'Angouleme
died after 29 August 1233
26.Adhemar, Comte d'Angouleme
died 16 June 1202 Limoges
married circa 1186
27.Alice de Courtenay
born circa 1160
died 1218
30.William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
born circa 1146
died 14 May 1219
married August 1189
31.Isabel de Clare, suo Jure Countess of Pembroke
born 1174/1176
died 1220
32.William Comyn, Justiciar of Scotland, Earl of Buchan
died 1233
33.Sarah
40.Eustace Baliol, of Bywell
died before 1201
41.Ada de Fontaines
42.Aleaume de Fontaines
43.Laurette de Saint Valery
44.Roland, Lord of Galloway
died 1200
45.Elena de Moreville
died 1217
46.David, Earl of Huntingdon
born circa 1144
died 17 June 1219 Jerdelay
married 26 August 1190
47.Maud of Chester
died circa 1231
48.Hugues IX de Lusignan, Sire de Lusignan
died before 11 April 1169
49.Grengarde
50.Vulgrin III, Comte d'Angouleme
died before 29 June 1181
51.Elisabeth d'Amboise
died before 1212
52-100.Guillaume VI Taillefer, Comte d'Angouleme
died 7 August 1179 Messina
married 1150
53-101.Marguerite de Turenne
died after 1201
54.Pierre I de France, Sire de Courtenay
born circa 1126
died circa 1180/1183
married after 1150
55.Elisabeth de Courtenay
died after 14 September 1205
60.John Marshal
61.Sibil Devereux
62.Richard FitzGilbert de Clare 'Strongbow'
2nd Earl of Pembroke
born circa 1130
died 20 April 1176 ? Dublin
married 1171
63.Eva (Aoife) of Leinster
64.Richard Comyn, Lord of Tynedale
died after 1177
married circa 1152/1159
65.Hextilda of Tynedale
66.Robert FitzHugh
67.NN
80.Bernard II Baliol, of Bywell
died before 1199
81.Agnes de Picquigny
88.Uchtred, Lord of Galloway
died 1174
89.Gunnhild of Dunbar
90.Richard de Moreville
91.Avicia de Lancaster
died 1191
92.Henry, Earl of Huntingdon
born circa 1115
died 12 June 1151
married 1139
93.Ada de Warenne
died 1178
94.Hugh Keveliok Le Meschin, 3rd Earl of Chester
died 30 June 1181 Leeke, Staffordshire
married 1169
95.Bertred de Montfort
born 1155
died 1227
96.Hugues VIII de Lusignan, Sire de Lusignan
died 1173
97.Bourgogne de Rancon
100=52.
101=53.
102.Hugues II, Sire d'Amboise, Seigneur de Jaligny
died 1190/1194
103.Mahaut (de Vendome)
died 3 February 1199
104.Vulgrin II, Comte d'Angouleme
born circa 1089
died 16 September 1140
105.Ponce de Montgommery
106.Raymond I, Vicomte de Turenne
107.Mahaut du Perche
died 28 May 1143
108.Louis VI 'the Fat', King of France 1108-1137
born 1081
died 1 August 1137 Chateau Bethizy nr Paris
married circa April 1115 Paris
109.Adele de Savoie
born circa 1092
died 18 November 1154
110.Renaud de Courtenay, of Sutton Park
died 1161
111.Hawise (Elisabeth) de Donjon
120.Gilbert Marshal
121.NN de Venuz
124.Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Pembroke
born circa 1100
died 6 January 1148/1149
125.Elisabeth de Beaumont
died after 1172
126.Diarmait Macmurchada
King of Leinster
born 1100
died 1 January 1171
127.NN
Sources :
Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europaischen Staaten
Marburg, 1953, 1975
by W.K. Prinz von Isenburg
Extinct Peerage,
1866
by Sir Bernard Burke
Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973
Burke's Peerage
1938
Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels
Furstliche Hauser
The Complete Peerage
The Plantagenet Ancestry,
Baltimore, 1975
by Lt.Col. W.H. Turton
The Highland Clans
London, 1977
by Moncreiffe of that Ilk, David Hicks
The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles,
Prince of Wales
Edinburgh, 1977
by Gerald Paget
The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans,
Structure of the Armeno-Cilician dynasties.
Paris, 1963
by W.H. Rudt-Collenberg
Europaischen Stammtafeln (Schwennicke)
Hope this helps.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
sk...@ix.netcom.com
wrote:
>Henry Sutliffe asked, and James C. Woodward gave a very
>detailed and interesting answer. However, I would like to present the
>ancestor list I have for this John Comyn.
>Hopefully, some of the blanks can be filled in.
>
>1.John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch
> killed in battle 24 June 1314 Bannockburn
<SNIP>
>
>60.John Marshal
This was John FitzGilbert "le Mareschall," the first of his line to be
Marshall of England. I don't think the use of the "Marshal" surname
actually came into use until his children. Certainly (?) number 120
should not be called "Marshal." N'est-ce pas?
>61.Sibil Devereux
>
<SNIP>
>
>120.Gilbert Marshal
Gilbert FitzRobert
>121.NN de Venuz
240 Robert de Bec
>
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