"We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of
your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your
schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms,
in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in
your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your
truckstops, in your all male clubs, in your houses of Congress,
wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our
minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They
will come to crave and adore us.
"Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with
men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face,
the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will
amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep.
"Women, you say you wish to live with each other instead of with men.
Then go and be with each other. We shall give your men pleasures they
have never known because we are foremost men too, and only one man
knows how to truly please another man; only one man can understand the
depth and feeling, the mind and body of another man.
"All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked. Instead,
legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men.
"All homosexuals must stand together as brothers; we must be united
artistically, philosophically, socially, politically andfinancially.
We will triumph only when we present a common face to the vicious
heterosexual enemy.
"If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in
your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.
"We shall write poems of the love between men; we shall stage plays in
which man openly caresses man; we shall make films about the love
between heroic men which will replace the cheap, superficial,
sentimental, insipid, juvenile, heterosexual infatuations presently
dominating your cinema screens. We shall sculpt statues of beautiful
young men, of bold athletes which will be placed in your parks, your
squares, your plazas. The museums of the world will be filled only
with paintings of graceful, naked lads.
"Our writers and artists will make love between men fashionable and de
rigueur, and we will succeed because we are adept at setting styles.
We will eliminate heterosexual liaisons through usage of the devices
of wit and ridicule, devices which we are skilled in employing.
"We will unmask the powerful homosexuals who masquerade as
heterosexuals. You will be shocked and frightened when you find that
your presidents and their sons, your industrialists, your senators,
your mayors, your generals, your athletes, your film stars, your
television personalities, your civic leaders, your priests are not the
safe, familiar, bourgeois, heterosexual figures you assumed them to be.
"We are everywhere; we have infiltrated your ranks. Be careful when you
speak of homosexuals because we are always among you; we may be
sitting across the desk from you; we may be sleeping in the same bed
with you.
"There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings.
Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race,
and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose
us will be exiled.
"We shall raise vast private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you. We
shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded
together by homosexual love and honor are invincible as were the
ancient Greek soldiers.
"The family unit-spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity,
hypocrisy and violence--will be abolished.
"The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will,
must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the
genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in communal setting,
under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.
"All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our only gods are handsome
young men. We adhere to a cult of beauty, moral and esthetic. All that
is ugly and vulgar and banal will be annihilated. Since we are
alienated from middle-class heterosexual conventions, we are free to
live our lives according to the dictates of the pure imagination. For
us too much is not enough.
"The exquisite society to emerge will be governed by an elite comprised
of gay poets. One of the major requirements for a position of power in
the new society of homoeroticism will be indulgence in the Greek
passion. Any man contaminated with heterosexual lust will be
automatically barred from a position of influence. All males who
insist on remaining stupidly heterosexual will be tried in homosexual
courts of justice and will become invisible men.
"We shall rewrite history, history filled and debased with your hetero-
sexual lies and distortions. We shall portray the homosexuality of the
great leaders and thinkers who have shaped the world. We will
demonstrate that homosexuality and intelligence and imagination are
inextricably linked, and that homosexuality is a requirement for true
nobility, true beauty in a man.
"We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious
bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly
bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too
are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate
revolution.
"Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks."
Excerpted from http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/homo.html
:"The Gay Revolutionary"
:by Michael Swift,
:from Gay Community News, Feb. 15-21, 1987:
:
:"We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of
: your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your
: schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms,
Yadda yadda yadda. You really, truly do suspend any semblance of common
sense when you join "the movement," don't you?
Go peddle the "Protocols of the Elders of Sodom" somewhere else. We've been
over it before, and your inability to recognize satire is a personal
problem you need to work out in private.
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"We were once so close to heaven, Peter came out and gave us medals
declaring us the nicest of the damned." --They Might Be Giants
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Andy Walton * att...@mindspring.com * http://www.mindspring.com/~atticus
visit the web site http://www.smart.net/~nri/homosexual
This is the Sodomy Reserach Institute.
We have that file along with others.
:visit the web site http://www.smart.net/~nri/homosexual
:This is the Sodomy Reserach Institute.
:We have that file along with others.
Point #1: the fact that something is in the Congressional Record does not
mean that it was said before Congress (as you state on your web page), or
that it's quoted accurately. Members of congress generally have the ability
to "revise and extend" their remarks, which allows them to place anything
they want in the Record.
Your "research" clearly consists of adding HTML tags to the same stuff
that's been floating around for years, without the barest charade of
fact-ckecking. At least the racists added some original thought and quite
well-written prose (I say "added" in the past tense because most of the
skilled writers in the "movement" -- Les, Reuben, Milton, and Ron -- have
loudly or quietly departed).
>In article <33029F...@smart.net>, n...@smart.net wrote:
>
> :visit the web site http://www.smart.net/~nri/homosexual
> :This is the Sodomy Reserach Institute.
> :We have that file along with others.
>
>Point #1: the fact that something is in the Congressional Record does not
>mean that it was said before Congress (as you state on your web page), or
>that it's quoted accurately. Members of congress generally have the ability
>to "revise and extend" their remarks, which allows them to place anything
>they want in the Record.
>
>Your "research" clearly consists of adding HTML tags to the same stuff
>that's been floating around for years, without the barest charade of
>fact-ckecking. At least the racists added some original thought and quite
>well-written prose (I say "added" in the past tense because most of the
>skilled writers in the "movement" -- Les, Reuben, Milton, and Ron -- have
>loudly or quietly departed).
Look, there's no arguing with people like this. Their arguments are
based upon the desire they feel for other men but can't admit, so
instead they convince themselves that there's some sort of homosexual
"agenda" that's putting these "evil" thoughts in their heads. If they
just accepted the fact that they were queer there wouldn't be a
problem at all.
=Bob
IT? WHO? 'this guy', said what??
You should be more considerate when snipping. Your comment is
ex-contextual, incomprehensible, and this thread is getting off track.
http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/homo.html
People, read the entire page, please. This mammoth heroic effort is
essential to the survival of the race. (Intentional quintuple entendre)
Why did so many civilisations suddenly dissapear?
They incorrectly bred themselves to death. Homo cannibalis!
I feel sick!
Voss is hetero society's last hope. Homosexual people (homos) need help to
find a cure.
If homosexuality is a presently uncurable promiscuous infantile sexuality
and a contagious mental illness, now being promoted by people made sicker
by STD, then intentionally passing on Aids to promote research in a cure is
selfish, perverse murder, defensible by plea of insanity.
If homosexuality is normal and homophobia is an illness, then look out for
demented gaycidal sickos, defended by pleas of insanity!
The essential truth that we are sent here to discover is that we must die,
our only freedom is to choose, that how and when and why we choose to die
can make us proudly noble or shamefully base. At the moment of our death,
we KNOW the truth, and the moment of our death is eternal.
I pity the homos, and hope they can find their way to a cure, become
healthy sexual people and avoid Aids. They would receive my support if they
wanted it. They are misguided children.
Unrepentant homos belong in a quarantine colony waiting for a cure. Their
avowed policies would condemn us all to extinction otherwise.
If you think that homophobia is politically incorrect, I say that there is
no such thing as political correctness, since by definition politics is
arguement. How can politics that does not allow all opinions claim to be
correct?
Gentlemen, there is nothing as good as the love of a good woman. I cannot
speak for women.
Ah. I see that pro-homosexuals are still falling back to the same old,
same old. Namely, anybody who opposes homosexuality is just a closet
homosexual. Brilliant in its circular (well, elliptical actually...but
aren't all circles ellipses?) logic. Too bad old CL isn't a valid
technique.
> =Bob
--
Lars Ormberg
(I don't know where Mr. T lives. Stop phoning my home)
la...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca
__
The Commodore's webpage is bigger, badder, and more Java-packed than
ever before! Take a tour at http://www.ualberta.ca/~larso/ and have
an experience only categorizable as Lars On-Line!
* The Borg--our most lethal enemy--have begun an invasion of the
Federation. The assimilation continues...STAR TREK:FIRST CONTACT is
still showing in theatres across the country. (Oh, and some Star Wars
thing is supposedly on as well. Like anybody cares).
How do YOU know this to be so?
How did you get this information? How do you know it is true?
Herman
I happened to be a heterosexual. I can't for the life imagine that I
could "will" to become anything else.
You logic, above is flawed. The vast and overwhelming heterosexuals
couldn't care less about the person sexual conduct between two
consenting adults.
When a person, such as yourself, has an inordinate interest in other
men- as you obviously do, I think it is time to consider visiting a
psychologist for evaluation. You may be sexually disfunctional.
Herman
In fact, AIDS was deliberately spread, worldwide, by faggots, starting
with the hom with Air Canada. Just read the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED
ON", for all the gory details.
Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
spreaders that they are.
-88-
Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
>Voss is hetero society's last hope. Homosexual people (homos) need help to
>find a cure.
>If homosexuality is a presently uncurable promiscuous infantile sexuality
>and a contagious mental illness, now being promoted by people made sicker
>by STD, then intentionally passing on Aids to promote research in a cure is
>selfish, perverse murder, defensible by plea of insanity.
And IF my grandmother had wheels she would be a truck.
Preceeding a paragraph of ill-considered condemnation with
the weasel-word IF is not really the best way to make a
point.
>If homosexuality is normal and homophobia is an illness, then look out for
>demented gaycidal sickos, defended by pleas of insanity!
>The essential truth that we are sent here to discover is that we must die,
>our only freedom is to choose, that how and when and why we choose to die
>can make us proudly noble or shamefully base. At the moment of our death,
>we KNOW the truth, and the moment of our death is eternal.
>I pity the homos, and hope they can find their way to a cure, become
>healthy sexual people and avoid Aids. They would receive my support if they
>wanted it. They are misguided children.
>Unrepentant homos belong in a quarantine colony waiting for a cure. Their
>avowed policies would condemn us all to extinction otherwise.
The Cuban "solution" to the problems of AIDS.
>If you think that homophobia is politically incorrect, I say that there is
>no such thing as political correctness, since by definition politics is
>arguement. How can politics that does not allow all opinions claim to be
>correct?
How about the opinions of those who have been thrown into
your concentration camps?
>Gentlemen, there is nothing as good as the love of a good woman. I cannot
>speak for women.
Indeed, you cannot and there is little evidence to suggest
that you speak for men either.
ward
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"In the SS today, we still have about one case of
homosexuality a month. In a whole year, about eight
to ten cases occur in the entire SS. I have now decided
upon the following. In each case these prople will
naturally be publicly degraded, expelled and handed over
to the courts. Following completion of the punishment
imposed by the courts they wl be sent, by my order,
to a concentration camp, and they will be shot while
attempting to escape.
H. Himmler 18 February, 1937
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Thje aritlce was written in 1987 by a man named Michael Swift.
> You should be more considerate when snipping. Your comment is
> ex-contextual, incomprehensible, and this thread is getting off track.
>
> http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/homo.html
Read Swift's piece and tell me if it doesn't seem just a trifle
exaggerated.
> People, read the entire page, please. This mammoth heroic effort is
> essential to the survival of the race. (Intentional quintuple
> entendre)
Do you honestly believe that if we as a society accept homosexuality,
that procreation will be endangered? The warranty on your brain has
clearly expired.
> Why did so many civilisations suddenly dissapear?
> They incorrectly bred themselves to death. Homo cannibalis!
Name one society that did this.
> I feel sick!
What goes around...
> Voss is hetero society's last hope.
Hetero society is in BIIIIG trouble, if their salvation lies in the
hands of a whote supremacist, Nazi wannabe and anti-semite.
> Homosexual people (homos) need help to find a cure.
Look, asswipe, homosexuality is not a disease that needs a cure, and
I'll tell you why. For every disease or disorder of the human body and
mind, there is a set pattern of tangible, harmful consequences arising
from it. If a person has cancer, diabetes, or schzophrenia, certain
bad things are going to happen as a result. This pattern is called a
pathology. There is no pathology for homosxuality. If the big words
are too much for your brain to handle, I'll put it simply. If
homsexuality is a disease, how does it make me sick?
> If homosexuality is a presently uncurable promiscuous infantile sexuality
> and a contagious mental illness, now being promoted by people made sicker
> by STD, then intentionally passing on Aids to promote research in a cure is
> selfish, perverse murder, defensible by plea of insanity.
Compared to your mind, pretzels are as straight as a spaghetti noodle
(I'm starting to get hungry).
> If homosexuality is normal and homophobia is an illness, then look out for
> demented gaycidal sickos, defended by pleas of insanity!
Sorry, pal. The "gay panic" defense is dying fast.
> The essential truth that we are sent here to discover is that we must die,
> our only freedom is to choose, that how and when and why we choose to die
> can make us proudly noble or shamefully base. At the moment of our death,
> we KNOW the truth, and the moment of our death is eternal.
We know the truth. You have turned your back on it.
> I pity the homos, and hope they can find their way to a cure, become
> healthy sexual people and avoid Aids. They would receive my support if they
> wanted it. They are misguided children.
When Hell reaches a temperature of 0 degrees Kelvin.
> Unrepentant homos belong in a quarantine colony waiting for a cure.
We don't need a cure.
> Their avowed policies would condemn us all to extinction otherwise.
Like you would us if you called the shots?
What policies are those, dumbass? I don't see anybody forcing you to
become gay. Even if we could, I doubt that we'd want to be associated
with you.
> If you think that homophobia is politically incorrect, I say that there is
> no such thing as political correctness, since by definition politics is
> arguement. How can politics that does not allow all opinions claim to be
> correct?
I agree that P.C. is a sham.
> Gentlemen, there is nothing as good as the love of a good woman. I cannot
> speak for women.
For someone who is gay, the love of a good MOTSS partner is quite
enough.
I is-
You-
and me-
and we-
are altogether-
Chicago. [Transit Authority]
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Aneon-6.
Navigator.
>WAHRHEIT (Wahr...@cris.com) wrote:
>: It seems that the latent faggots, and their fellowtravellers, see nothing
>: wrong with their perversions!!!
>
>: Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
>: spreaders that they are.
>
>Be grateful, at least they aren't breeding !!!!
I guess the only way for this idiot to find anyone to agree with his
demented fantasies is to talk to himself.
What a maroon.
Norm Gall
--
"Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy
and the lash" -- Sir Winston Churchill
: Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
: spreaders that they are.
Be grateful, at least they aren't breeding !!!!
--
THOSE WHO WOULD DEFEND EVIL
SURELY BECOME EVIL THEMSELVES
AND NOT SIMPLY AT THE PRICE
OF THEIR OWN SOULS INTPHASE
Such ignorant BULLSHIT!
>Unrepentant homos belong in a quarantine colony waiting for a cure. Their
>avowed policies would condemn us all to extinction otherwise.
>
There is nothing to "repent" from....
clueless is as clueless does!
tspragg==clueless==ignoramus
--
Ciao!
John S. 8^{)>
tedd...@netcom.com
__
Sorry but you are so wrong about this..... The author of that book,
Randy Shilts, never said that the story was true or that there exists
any evidence for it...
The true story is that the World Health Organization, a division of the
United Nations, with headquarters in Switzerland collected blood in
Central Africa in the early to middle 1970's and that blood was provided
to the blood banks in 3 cities of the world, Paris, New York City and
San Francisco. These are the locations that the HIV was simultaneously
discovered in patients at major hospitals in those cities in 1980.
>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
>spreaders that they are.
>
You are so ignorant that it is not even laughable.....
It seems that the functionally illiterate faggots, just do not want the
world to know how foul they are. They DELIBERATELY INFECTED millions of
people worldwide, as the details in the book confirmed.
In fact, only recently, after the death of the author, were we told that
even he was a faggot!!!!
Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, John Sanger wrote:
> In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.970214...@voyager.cris.com> WAHRHEIT <Wahr...@cris.com> writes:
> >It seems that the latent faggots, and their fellowtravellers, see nothing
> >wrong with their perversions!!!
> >
> >In fact, AIDS was deliberately spread, worldwide, by faggots, starting
> >with the hom with Air Canada. Just read the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED
> >ON", for all the gory details.
> >
>
> Sorry but you are so wrong about this..... The author of that book,
> Randy Shilts, never said that the story was true or that there exists
> any evidence for it...
>
> The true story is that the World Health Organization, a division of the
> United Nations, with headquarters in Switzerland collected blood in
> Central Africa in the early to middle 1970's and that blood was provided
> to the blood banks in 3 cities of the world, Paris, New York City and
> San Francisco. These are the locations that the HIV was simultaneously
> discovered in patients at major hospitals in those cities in 1980.
>
> >Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
> >spreaders that they are.
> >
>
i watched a friend of mines, head come off
while we were under fire...i turned and seen
another shaking and scared out of his mind
blow his leg off. all the while others were
screaming orders...
all i could think of, was..
i don't want my soul to remain here.....
lost in a dream now.
**********************************************************
Point..
it's so easy to stand back, and throw..
maybe this person you say is ignorant..
could use a little shot of reality...
**********************************************************
so let your bullets fly -
like rain -
jimi hendrix.
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Aneon-6.
Navigator.
WAHRHEIT wrote:
>
> I not only have the book, but I have read it.
>
> It seems that the functionally illiterate faggots, just do not want the
> world to know how foul they are. They DELIBERATELY INFECTED millions of
> people worldwide, as the details in the book confirmed.
>
> In fact, only recently, after the death of the author, were we told that
> even he was a faggot!!!!
>
> Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
>
> On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, John Sanger wrote:
>
> > In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.970214...@voyager.cris.com> WAHRHEIT <Wahr...@cris.com> writes:
> > >It seems that the latent faggots, and their fellowtravellers, see nothing
> > >wrong with their perversions!!!
> > >
> > >In fact, AIDS was deliberately spread, worldwide, by faggots, starting
> > >with the hom with Air Canada. Just read the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED
> > >ON", for all the gory details. <snip>
> > >
This is the usual old Nazi fable. Let us attack Homosexuals, Jews,
Gypsies, Certain Christian Churches, Certain Political Parties etc.
When they threw them into Concentration Camps they were assigned
different color patches on their striped prison garb for different
groups.
Do you remember the color of the patch they used for Seventh Day
Adventists WARHEIT? You would know.
THERE WAS NO PERVERSION IN MODERN HISTORY AS THE PERVERSION COMMITTED BY
THE GERMANS TO HUMAN BEINGS IN EUROPE
30,000,000 DEAD 1939-1945
THERE WAS NO PERVERSION IN MODERN HISTORY AS THE PERVERSION COMMITTED BY
THE GERMANS TO HUMAN BEINGS IN EUROPE
30,000,000 DEAD 1939-1945
THERE WAS NO PERVERSION IN MODERN HISTORY AS THE PERVERSION COMMITTED BY
THE GERMANS TO HUMAN BEINGS IN EUROPE
30,000,000 DEAD 1939-1945
THERE WAS NO PERVERSION IN MODERN HISTORY AS THE PERVERSION COMMITTED BY
THE GERMANS TO HUMAN BEINGS IN EUROPE
30,000,000 DEAD 1939-1945
THERE WAS NO PERVERSION IN MODERN HISTORY AS THE PERVERSION COMMITTED BY
THE GERMANS TO HUMAN BEINGS IN EUROPE
30,000,000 DEAD 1939-1945
THERE WAS NO PERVERSION IN MODERN HISTORY AS THE PERVERSION COMMITTED BY
THE GERMANS TO HUMAN BEINGS IN EUROPE
30,000,000 DEAD 1939-1945
lets not forget the killing fields in Asia.
those murdered in the Battan Death march.
The list goes on and on...
**************************************************************************
I'm Jewish, and so damn tired of hearing what happened in Europe.
My relatives never let up, as well as those jews controlling certain
aspects of T.V. programming....
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Aneon-6.
Navigator.
Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
On Sat, 15 Feb 1997 grea...@mindspring.com wrote:
> This proud German uses the word Faggot for Homosexual. Kike for Jew.
> American Soldiers for Shit.
> And he thinks he is "normal"
First, where does it say that I am a German, lying SOB?
Second, I have never, ever used the term kike, for the damn JEWS. ONLY YOU
HAVE USED THAT EXPLETIVE!!!
I have never ever bothered to comment on the American Soldiers, other than
in referring to the murders of the German troops at the end of WWII, on
orders from gen.Eisenwhore.
> WAHRHEIT wrote:
> >
> > I not only have the book, but I have read it.
> >
> > It seems that the functionally illiterate faggots, just do not want the
> > world to know how foul they are. They DELIBERATELY INFECTED millions of
> > people worldwide, as the details in the book confirmed.
> >
> > In fact, only recently, after the death of the author, were we told that
> > even he was a faggot!!!!
> >
> > Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
> >
> > On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, John Sanger wrote:
> >
> > > In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.970214...@voyager.cris.com> WAHRHEIT <Wahr...@cris.com> writes:
> > > >It seems that the latent faggots, and their fellowtravellers, see nothing
> > > >wrong with their perversions!!!
> > > >
> > > >In fact, AIDS was deliberately spread, worldwide, by faggots, starting
> > > >with the homo with Air Canada. Just read the book, "AND THE BAND
> In fact, only recently, after the death of the author, were we told that
> even he was a faggot!!!!
WELLLL, if it isn't "Acumen"!
Where ya been, you ol' bigot Nazi, you?
Did they just let you out for good behavior?
As far as "only recentlyy, after the death of the author, were we told that
even he was a faggot!!!!" all that says is that you are basically STUPID.
Randy Shilts was an OUT reporter from his college days, was OUT all
the years he wrote for the San Francisco Chronicle, was OUT when he
appeared on national television, and was OUT while writing all his books.
Mr. Grosvenor, all this proves is that you are still a stupid shithead without
a clue as to how the rest of the internet feels about you...
...a pathetic, sick joke.
--
John
NOTE: "From" address is deliberately wrong.
My correct e-mail address is:
Well Herr Gruber - it says that in articles about you in Alberta Report,
the Edmonton Journal and Forbes. According to the incvestigative
reporters, you changed your name from Gruber to Grosvener several years
after arriving in Canada frim Germany.
I knew Randy for years and knew him to be a homosexual.....
The story is only Randy's speculation and not fact....
It seems you want Randy's speculation to be real and so you are saying
it is BUT that does not make it so.....
clueless is as clueless does!
wahrheit==clueless==ignoramus
I didn't think s/he was German. It seems more likely that the psycho
simply decided to use "wahrheit" (the German word for "truth". Haha!) as
a nick-name. More interestingly, WAHRHEIT is a client of the same ISP as
the Davis-Phelpses. Coīncidence?
-Sakari Tuomisto
Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, John Sanger wrote:
> In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.970215...@galileo.cris.com> WAHRHEIT <Wahr...@cris.com> writes:
> >I not only have the book, but I have read it.
> >
> >It seems that the functionally illiterate faggots, just do not want the
> >world to know how foul they are. They DELIBERATELY INFECTED millions of
> >people worldwide, as the details in the book confirmed.
> >
> >In fact, only recently, after the death of the author, were we told that
> >even he was a faggot!!!!
> >
> >
> I knew Randy for years and knew him to be a homosexual.....
Does that mean that YOU also are another faggot, diseased as well?
> The story is only Randy's speculation and not fact....
The itemised documentation, with complete details, in "AND THE BAND PLAYED
ON", is most definitely NOT speculation, but documented fact!!!
I feel that the only good faggot, is a cremated one,period.
Nowhere does it say I came from germany in the articles. It says I came
from Europe, in fact Great Britain.
So, now that we have shown YOU to be another lying SOB, crawl back into
your sewer, and expire, painfully I hope.
Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, David Reilley wrote:
> WAHRHEIT wrote:
> >
> > It seems the lying SOB is again fabricating lies, as usual for the Jews
> > and their ilk.
> >
> > Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
> >
Herman
A person continually devoting their resources and time to hate
"faggots", hate Jews and following the Master Race theories of Adolf
Hitler can not be mentally well balanced.
Herman
> I have never ever bothered to comment on the American Soldiers, other than
> in referring to the murders of the German troops at the end of WWII, on
> orders from gen.Eisenwhore.
Gee, Wahrheit, isn't it great you're entitled to espouse your opinion
without fear of government retribution? Isn't it wonderful that in the
United States, everyone's opinion is equally respected, and their rights
to that opinion are upheld?
In other countries, demeaning the name of a previous leader could have
you, at best, imprisoned and at worst, killed. Remember the League of
Night and Fog?
So here's the dichotomy: In demanding your rights be respected for what
you both say, and did not say, you want to withold the rights of
others... somehow making your rights stronger and more "real" than those
you would oppress.
I have to ask: Who's looking for special rights now?
Eric Seright-Payne
Livermore, CA
> The itemised documentation, with complete details, in "AND THE BAND PLAYED
> ON", is most definitely NOT speculation, but documented fact!!!
>
> I feel that the only good faggot, is a cremated one,period.
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Well you are entitled to your feelings and opinions.
This is still America...
The old man used to tell me, son, if ya keep beating your
head off the wall long enough, your head will fall off
before the wall will move...
Do you have anything good to say...
It's like an old record, skip, skip, skip.
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That he was such a Bitchen Guitarist.
lou reed.[response about Jimi Hendrix]
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Aneon-6.
I have been commenting about the risks to normal people caused by the AIDS
spreading faggots.
Where did I say anything about restricting freedom of speech?
Perhaps you are reading someone else's article??
Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
>It seems that the faggots, and their lovers are still LYING, regarding the
>worldwide spread of AIDS, which was done deliberately,starting with the
>Canadian faggot with Air Canada - patient zero.
So, what you're saying is that faggots and their lovers (presumably,
faggots themselves) are liars.
Ok. The argument goes like this:
1. Faggots are liars.
2. An author says that a faggot deliberately infected
millions of people with HIV.
3. That author is a faggot.
Therefore, 4. That author is a liar. (from 1 and 2)
Therefore, 5. A faggot did NOT deliberately infect millions of
people with HIV. (from 2 and 4)
Furthermore, 6. Grosvenor asserts that the author in 2 is right.
7. Grosvenor asserts the argument in 1 - 5.
Therefore, 8. Grosvenor is a liar. (from 6 and 7)
Thanks for clearing that up for us, Slick Willy.
Fine logic. However,and as a "faggot", I think I can say this, you're
missing a point.
9. Grosvenor is a ...following from 1, 4, and 8.
I'll leave it to the illogical to fill in the blank.
David
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Free thought, neccessarily involving freedom of
speech and press, I may tersely define thus:no
opinion a law-no opinion a crime.
Alexander Berkman
The "patient zero" is only speculation and nothing more... speculation
on the part of Randy Shilts and he admitted it before he died....
When you decide to get the true facts regarding HIV and AIDS, you will
let us all know..... we will celebrate your gaining in IQ points from an
IQ of 49 to something higher than an IQ of 50.....
>
>On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, John Sanger wrote:
>
>> In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.970215...@galileo.cris.com> WAHRHEIT <Wahr...@cris.com> writes:
>> >I not only have the book, but I have read it.
>> >
>> >It seems that the functionally illiterate faggots, just do not want the
>> >world to know how foul they are. They DELIBERATELY INFECTED millions of
>> >people worldwide, as the details in the book confirmed.
>> >
>> >In fact, only recently, after the death of the author, were we told that
>> >even he was a faggot!!!!
>> >
>> >
>
>> I knew Randy for years and knew him to be a homosexual.....
>
>
>Does that mean that YOU also are another faggot, diseased as well?
>
>
>> The story is only Randy's speculation and not fact....
>
Are you aware of the roots of the people who are presently in GB.....
the people and the language all come from the Prussian States aka
Germany.....
>Again you are another lying SOB.
>Nowhere does it say I came from germany in the articles. It says I came
>from Europe, in fact Great Britain.
>So, now that we have shown YOU to be another lying SOB, crawl back into
>your sewer, and expire, painfully I hope.
> Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
>On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, David Reilley wrote:
>> WAHRHEIT wrote:
>> >
>> > It seems the lying SOB is again fabricating lies, as usual for the Jews
>> > and their ilk.
>> >
>> > Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
>> >
>> > On Sat, 15 Feb 1997 grea...@mindspring.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > This proud German uses the word Faggot for Homosexual. Kike for Jew.
>> > > American Soldiers for Shit.
>> > > And he thinks he is "normal"
>> >
>> > First, where does it say that I am a German, lying SOB?
>>
>> Well Herr Gruber - it says that in articles about you in Alberta Report,
>> the Edmonton Journal and Forbes. According to the incvestigative
>> reporters, you changed your name from Gruber to Grosvener several years
>> after arriving in Canada frim Germany.
>>
>>
That was because of the rotten Jews and communists swarming
all over Canada who took offense when this sheisse hund
chose to fly a swastika flag and march with his neo-nazi
xhums.
You gotta watch out for those Jews, they can be really mean
when you murder six million of them!
ward
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"There is no better tool with which to pound plowshares
into swords than the bible.
J. A. Stanley
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That doesn't look quite accurate... Before the Prussian States existed
there were some invasions of Britain by the Angles (Danish), the Saxons
(Gallic, or French), the Normans (also French), the Romans (basically
Italian) and a few other random elements... None of these were actually
from the area you're associating with Germany. And a simple enough
inspection of any etymological dictionary will reveal the derivation of
the English language through Greek, Latin, Old French, and Italian
vocabulary (at least).
-lloyd
}A person continually devoting their resources and time to hate
}"faggots", hate Jews and following the Master Race theories of Adolf
}Hitler can not be mentally well balanced.
Now how can you say that? He's perfectly balanced. It's the scale that's
tilted! <smirk>
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And the Thought of the Moment (tm) is...
"Every man is as God made him, ay, and often worse."
-- Miguel de Cervantes
} 1. Faggots are liars.
} 2. An author says that a faggot deliberately infected
} millions of people with HIV.
} 3. That author is a faggot.
}Therefore, 4. That author is a liar. (from 1 and 2)
}Therefore, 5. A faggot did NOT deliberately infect millions of
} people with HIV. (from 2 and 4)
}Furthermore, 6. Grosvenor asserts that the author in 2 is right.
} 7. Grosvenor asserts the argument in 1 - 5.
}Therefore, 8. Grosvenor is a liar. (from 6 and 7)
Query: (I love that word!) Does that make him a faggot?
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And the Thought of the Moment (tm) is...
The earth is like a tiny grain of sand, only heavier.
] -I not only have the book, but I have read it.
] -
] -It seems that the functionally illiterate faggots, just do not want the
] -world to know how foul they are. They DELIBERATELY INFECTED millions of
] -people worldwide, as the details in the book confirmed.
] -
I have read the book (and seen the movie) and I honestly don't know of anything
in either that back up your claim. Can you please give us references? And, if
possible, please include the bibliography from the author to give credence to
those quotations as well...
... you see, believe very little of what you write... and I have yet to see you
back it up with fact... it's just ramblings of a madman so far.
... you have a nice day too.
RatTrap
rattrap@usa..net
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>You gotta watch out for those Jews, they can be really mean
>when you murder six million of them!
Ya,, also have to watch out for racist assholes,, they can be REAL assholes sometimes....
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Dear Herman,
Gotta year or so?
Who are YOU to ask?
Does anyone know the truth for certain? I have simply found a few thoughts
in my own mind that I believe to be true. Such thoughts might occur to
anyone searching for truth. A small voice in my heart tells me that no one
can give me the 'truth', except mabey God, and He hasn't appeared in person
that I know of lately. Furthermore, if He appeared to me, how would I know
that I was not simply hallucinating? For that reason, I believe God would
not actively reveal Himself to anyone. Who could stand it? Therefore, we
must discover the truth for ourselves, and this can we only KNOW.
What are truth, belief, faith, knowlege, recognition, wisdom? Is wisdom
the suspicion that we might not know the truth? What is an open mind?
To respond to your impending question, how do I know that 'we were sent
here', I say that I have chosen to accept the existance of God, because I
would rather be wrong believing he does, than be right if He did not. (My
use of 'He' is comfortable for me, but I doubt that God is sexual). Gamble
with me awhile. Either God does or does not exist. If he exists, and I
choose to believe that he does not, where does that leave me? If I choose
to believe he does exist, and he does not, what does it cost me? Would the
world be a better place if he did or did not exist? If you could understand
how there could be a God in such a world as this would you listen to your
heart's proof? Did God send us here? Why did God make the universe? How?
There are many more questions, many more answers, only a little 'holy
truth'.
Most people need an authority to tell them what is true. Nazis, Catholics,
Protestants, Jews, Mohammedans, etc have a church or party to tell them the
'truth', and yet, in any organisation, there inevitably arises an internal
struggle for control. Look to the scholars who fight for control over what
they will allow to be included in their bible. They already believe that
they know what truth their God wants in their bible, yet cannot claim to
take guidance from their bible if they are the ones who exclude, include
and translate literature which has been cooked many times before they
discovered any part of it. Yet is there nothing of the bible we can trust?
God's truth exists despite scholarship.
I can believe only that which I have proven to myself. The moment of our
spiritual death is the moment we give up the true belief of life. We will
know it if it overtakes us. That truth of that moment will always exist,
and the truth of it cannot be destroyed. Is truth the same as belief?
Faith goes beyond truth, since while truth can be defined, faith is merely
belief beyond doubt. Belief is innocent, as is faith, yet mental sloth is
not innocent. I must trust my own logic. I think I am sane. I am glad to
have a powerful imagination.
Looking foreward to your opinion,
Terry
Are we not the fuel in the camp fire in God's garden? In our heat does He
not roast meat for His pleasure? Do His nostrils not breathe our smoke?
Does this fire burn for naught? -Unknown
>I not only have the book, but I have read it.
>
>It seems that the functionally illiterate faggots, just do not want the
>world to know how foul they are. They DELIBERATELY INFECTED millions of
>people worldwide, as the details in the book confirmed.
I would be very intested in seeing proof of this "world-wide"
conspiracy theory of yours. For instance, confirmation that hundreds
of gays traveled to Africa and deliberately infected an incredible
amount of the continent's population?
I don't think so.
>In fact, only recently, after the death of the author, were we told that
>even he was a faggot!!!!
Hold on....
You only found out AFTER Randy Shilts died that he was gay? Where the
hell have you been? "And the Band Played On" was not his last book.
He was around following its publication, and he wasn't hiding in the
closet. Any amount of basic research at the time would have shown
that.
Allen Bagwell
>Well Herr Gruber - it says that in articles about you in Alberta Report,
>the Edmonton Journal and Forbes. According to the incvestigative
>reporters, you changed your name from Gruber to Grosvener several years
>after arriving in Canada frim Germany.
Sort of like the Hanoverian house of Windsor --
Bwahahaha
Well you have missed the migration from Prussia to what is now known as
Great Britain.... Also your language derivation is incorrect as the
english language is well know to be based upon German which is why the
grammar is German....
Any history book will tell you of the migration of the peoples from
Prussia to Great Britain..... It happened a long time before the
Angeles, Saxons, Normans and even the Romans invaded the island...
>Hold on....
>Allen Bagwell
He claims to have read the book -- it is possible, just
barely possible that he either did not read the book or read
it in a somewhat careless manner. I cannot make any
specific citation but supposed that Shilts had made his
sexuality apparant in the book, such was certainly my
memory!
Is it possible that he read a few sentences, exerpted in
some sort of gay-bash flyer? Is it possible that based on
this "close" scrutiny he sees fit to go and bear false
witness against his neighbors?
OH YES! Need we remind him that this false witness stuff
is one of the big ten? HE knows the truth and if he is
right about the cosmos, God knows what he has done.
:-)
No; "all faggots are liars" does not imply "all liars are faggots"...
--
Avital Pilpel.
=====================================
The majority is never right.
-Lazarus Long
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In article <teddyburE...@netcom.com> tedd...@netcom.com (John Sanger)
writes:>From: tedd...@netcom.com (John Sanger)
>Subject: Re: The REAL Homo Agenda EXPOSED
>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 06:06:29 GMT
>In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.970214...@voyager.cris.com> WAHRHEIT <Wahr...@cris.com> writes:
>>It seems that the latent faggots, and their fellowtravellers, see nothing
>>wrong with their perversions!!!
>>
>>In fact, AIDS was deliberately spread, worldwide, by faggots, starting
>>with the hom with Air Canada. Just read the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED
>>ON", for all the gory details.
>>
>Sorry but you are so wrong about this..... The author of that book,
>Randy Shilts, never said that the story was true or that there exists
>any evidence for it...
>The true story is that the World Health Organization, a division of the
>United Nations, with headquarters in Switzerland collected blood in
>Central Africa in the early to middle 1970's and that blood was provided
>to the blood banks in 3 cities of the world, Paris, New York City and
>San Francisco. These are the locations that the HIV was simultaneously
>discovered in patients at major hospitals in those cities in 1980.
>>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
>>spreaders that they are.
>>
>You are so ignorant that it is not even laughable.....
No, the people who lived in the British Isles before the arrival of the
Romans were Britons (Celts) who spoke a language similar to Welsh. After
the Romans came they pushed the Celts back into the fringes (Wales,
Cornwall, Cumberland, Scotland). The Romans went around 400AD, and the
Celts moved back; the Angles, Saxons etc - the Germanic invaders - came
afterwards. It is *they* whose influence formed the German basis for the
English language, not anyone who lived before the Romans. After them
came the Normans, and they are the ones who added the Roman influence.
Although the English language is based upon German, there are also
considerable influences from French and from the Celtic languages.
Mat
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sending such email to me constitutes agreement to pay for the priviledge
of my attention.
To some, freedom of speech is violated whenever you disagree with their
ideas, apparently something about speech becoming too free.
But I do suspect that they misread your post, or never read it, or
thought it was someone elses.
--
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(I don't know where Mr. T lives. Stop phoning my home)
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thing is supposedly on as well. Like anybody cares).
] -WAHRHEIT wrote:
] ->
] -> What in the world are you blathering about?
] ->
] -> I have been commenting about the risks to normal people caused by the AIDS
] -> spreading faggots.
] ->
] -> Where did I say anything about restricting freedom of speech?
] -
] -To some, freedom of speech is violated whenever you disagree with their
] -ideas, apparently something about speech becoming too free.
Freedom of speech is one thing, Lars... but it's still illegal in Canada to
spread hate literature. I would venture to say that some of warheit's comments
would fall into that category...
> It seems that the faggots, and their lovers are still LYING, regarding the
> worldwide spread of AIDS, which was done deliberately,starting with the
> Canadian faggot with Air Canada - patient zero.
Could I ask you this: why would someone *deliberately* choose to start an
AIDS epidemic? If the Air Canada bloke who you claim started the whole
thing did start it, then why? And do you think all gays and lesbians
would choose to do such a thing? (I know quite a few who wouldn't.)
Incidentally, did this Canadian "faggot" go to somewhere like Zaire,
Uganda or Kenya on his travels? Cos that's the only way he could have
been "patient zero"!
> > }Therefore, 8. Grosvenor is a liar. (from 6 and 7)
> >
> > Query: (I love that word!) Does that make him a faggot?
>
> :-)
>
> No; "all faggots are liars" does not imply "all liars are faggots"...
All harbours are ports but not all ports are harbours. (or something
like that).
> --
> Avital Pilpel.
>
> =====================================
> The majority is never right.
>
> -Lazarus Long
> =====================================
--
>>
> Well you have missed the migration from Prussia to what is now known as
> Great Britain.... Also your language derivation is incorrect as the
> english language is well know to be based upon German which is why the
> grammar is German....
Well no, English grammar is not strictly German. In particular, the
word order in sentences different is. Modern English is a mostly a
mishmash of Germanic, Nordic and Romance origins. Some dialects of
English are also strongly influenced by other languages---Scots, Irish
and Welsh English dialects are a lot closer to Celtic than American
dialects are for one obvious example.
BTW, does anyone know of any studies of topic-migration in usenet
threads? In particular I've always wondered if the conversational
dynamics on usenet can be matched at all well to those of more
'traditional' settings, or if we've developed a new paradigm. My guess
is we're more like a cocktail party than a Kafee Klatsch. (Oh darn,
I've changed the subject and used a buzzword. Now I have to go to
penance...)
KR
--
Keith Rose
kr...@cyberus.ca (home)
K.R...@telesat.ca (work)
Actually, it's been determined that faggots only spread AIDS by
accident, not on purpose, the same as normal people.
--
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courage of a captain, and the destiny of a planet. (Oh, and some Star
Wars special edition thing is supposedly on as well. I hear it doesn't
entirely suck).
You have to stop replying in email. In email, I had no idea what the
hell that sentence meant. It was meaningless to me. Because it was in
email, I could not press "5" and then see my last message. When I read
the email, the message in both my email and the NG was marked as read.
When I read the NG hours later, it remembered that article as read.
STOP DOING THAT!
Now, as to your sentance, it means nothing and thus could have been
ignored. You're response to my statement of your faulty psycology was
to declare that you were still right. Geesh...
Me and several of my friends have offhandedly remarked that all the
world's homosexuals should be rounded up and put on an island. Guys on
one, girls on the other. If homosexuality is genetic, then that cures
our problem. If not, it gives us at least a good 20 years of peace and
quiet.
> --
> THOSE WHO WOULD DEFEND EVIL
> SURELY BECOME EVIL THEMSELVES
> AND NOT SIMPLY AT THE PRICE
> OF THEIR OWN SOULS INTPHASE
The LOUD NOISE that homosexuals make exists only in your own head.
Peace and quiet will only come when you recognize that other people are
different from you, and they like you, should be permitted to share the
planet.
Herman
> The LOUD NOISE that homosexuals make exists only in your own head.
Apparently you haven't been paying attention.
Gay and Lesbian Pride Parades.
Not to mention the inordinately large number of homosexuals on modern
sitcoms today. How many characters on a show turn out to be gay? What
percent are they?
> Herman
--
Lars Ormberg
(I don't know where Mr. T lives. Stop phoning my home)
- I'm a genuine, certified, dixie fried, full of pride, 'til I die
pure bred redneck!
] -grea...@mindspring.com wrote:
] -
] -> The LOUD NOISE that homosexuals make exists only in your own head.
] -
] -Apparently you haven't been paying attention.
] -
] -Gay and Lesbian Pride Parades.
Next thing you know, he'll be bashing on Santa Claus, The Irish, Pilgrims,
Veterans, etc...
All those damn noisy parades...
] -Not to mention the inordinately large number of homosexuals on modern
] -sitcoms today. How many characters on a show turn out to be gay? What
] -percent are they?
Far less than 1% why, I'll bet for every ONE sitcom homosexual, I can name at
least 10 straight folks... this coming from a person who watches very little
television...
Lars, Gay and Lesbian Pride Parades generally happen only during June
and July, leaving 10 or 11 months parade-free. Most of these events are
designed as events for the *Gay Community.* Rarely are they covered by
the main-stream media. The *vast* majority of *noise* coming from these
events, are the endless hours of video footage the religious right has
produced, (using the most outrageous out-takes from pride parades), as a
fund-raizing ploy.
> Not to mention the inordinately large number of homosexuals on modern
> sitcoms today. How many characters on a show turn out to be gay? What
> percent are they?
Well Lars, what percent are they? If you'd stop to count, you'd know
it's way below 1% - - - even by conservative estimates, that's not a
fair representation of the actual number of queers in the real-world.
Additionally, most of these characters are only minor characters. We've
yet to see a main or title character come-out.
I too, think the noise is all in your head.
- Z
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How completely stupid of you....
Homosexuals are born each and everyday... apx 1 out of every 10 surviving
male children is a homosexual....
How do you think that homosexuals are born.... heterosexual parents fuck
and produce offspring and apx 1 out of every 10 children are
homosexual....
You really are the most stupid individual since "Bubble Brainless"...
clueless is as clueless does!
larso==clueless==ignoramus
: > Me and several of my friends have offhandedly remarked that all the
: > world's homosexuals should be rounded up and put on an island. Guys on
: > one, girls on the other. If homosexuality is genetic, then that cures
: > our problem. If not, it gives us at least a good 20 years of peace and
: > quiet.
eye color is genetic. if you rounded up all of the blue eyed people and
got rid of them, would blue eyed people cease to exist? no, because blue
eyed people can be born to two dark eyed people. the next generation
produced by your dark eyed society would still contain blue eyed people.
now, eye color is a very simple example -- the point is that people do not
give birth to exact replicas of themselves. most homosexuals are born to
heterosexuals. this does not prove that sexual orientation is not
genetically determined.
of course, if you are suggesting that the heterosexuals of the world chip
in to buy a tropical island, arrange for transportation, and leave me in a
society consisting entirely of women who are attracted to women, maybe i
shouldn't talk you out of it.
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Mange Grrrl
ejo...@gl.umbc.edu
"that kind of god is always man-made
they made him up then wrote a book to keep you on your knees"
- Skunk Anansie, "Selling Jesus"
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: > The LOUD NOISE that homosexuals make exists only in your own head.
: Apparently you haven't been paying attention.
: Gay and Lesbian Pride Parades.
: Not to mention the inordinately large number of homosexuals on modern
: sitcoms today. How many characters on a show turn out to be gay? What
: percent are they?
1) If you are threatened by gays appearing in parades or on TV shows you
need to
a) grow up or
b) don't watch the parade or the show
2) Please take this discussion to an appropriate place (the sandbox?)
i.e. not alt.activism.death-penaly.
How many TV characters are megarich, or serial killers, or beauty
queens?
Why aren't you complaining that there are too many of them on TV?
>Ignore repost due to laughter<
>Then again I remember Art Linkletter<
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Aneon-6.
[Bald Orny Person]
[with a beard]
see my beard-
ain't weird-
don't be scared-
it's just a beard-
[i have no idea who wrote this].
>grea...@mindspring.com wrote:
>> The LOUD NOISE that homosexuals make exists only in your own head.
>Apparently you haven't been paying attention.
>Gay and Lesbian Pride Parades.
>Not to mention the inordinately large number of homosexuals on modern
>sitcoms today. How many characters on a show turn out to be gay? What
>percent are they?
>--
>Lars Ormberg
I don't know Lars, -- however you do seem to know since you
announce that the number is "inordinately large."
Perhaps the number is in the inordinately hateful eye of the
beholder.
What is the usual message surrounding Gay charactars in such
silly sit-coms -- I seem to percieve one of tolerance and a
non-judgemental acceptance of our neighbors differences --
WOW, really subversive stuff, dangerous too! Besides which
they are invariably uon-sexual -- the straight charactars
are in and out of bet and are to be seen constantly eating
each others faces without restraint or even a polite reserve
-- the Gay charactars, on the other hand, are permitted an
occasional hug or a peck on the cheek.
STILL too much for you, choking on your own hatefulness and
prejudice, you INSIST that Gays may OPNLY be portrayed as
evil, depraved, sinful, doomed and damned.
There is, thank god, nothing quite like christian charity
and goodness.
ward
>(I don't know where Mr. T lives. Stop phoning my home)
>- I'm a genuine, certified, dixie fried, full of pride, 'til I die
> pure bred redneck!
>la...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca
>____
>It's been done! The awesome website of The Commodore has been given
>an upgrade! More animations! More Java! More Klingons! Take another
>look at http://www.ualberta.ca/~larso/ and then you will finally have
>an experience that can truly be declared Lars On-Line!
>* The Borg--our most lethal enemy--have begun an invasion of the
>Federation. The assimilation continues...STAR TREK:FIRST CONTACT is
>still showing in theatres across the country, resistance is still not
>futile! Paramount Pictures brings the treachery of a Queen, the
>courage of a captain, and the destiny of a planet. (Oh, and some Star
>Wars special edition thing is supposedly on as well. I hear it doesn't
>entirely suck).
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"The very purpose of a bill of rights is to withdraw certain
subjects from..political controversy, to place them beyond the
reach of majorities."
Justice Robert Jackson 1943
}Me and several of my friends have offhandedly remarked that all the
}world's heterosexuals should be rounded up and put on an island. Guys on
}one, girls on the other. If heterosexuality is genetic, then that cures
}our problem. If not, it gives us at least a good 20 years of peace and
}quiet.
It's amazing the difference a change of a few letters will make...
Now just imagine what could have been done if, instead of changing
"homosexuals" into "heterosexuals", we substituted a certain other
thing... Say "Fundamentalist Christianity"...
--
<a href="http://www.infinet.com/~dionisio">Finger</a> for PGP public key
And the Thought of the Moment (tm) is...
Today on "Sewing With Nancy", we will explore the various uses of cordite!
>I pity the homos, and hope they can find their way to a cure, become
>healthy sexual people and avoid Aids. They would receive my support if they
>wanted it. They are misguided children.
Your kind of pity = death. There is nothing unhealthy about
homosexuality. There is everything unhealthy about heterosexist males
who beat and rape women and children...and spread syphillis and
gonorrhea in worldwide plagues that devastated and killed millions,
over many centuries. Fortunately, a cure arrived in modern
times...and was not the result of any change on hetero's unwholesome
attitudes. However, I demand reparation from heterosexual for all the
overwhelming misery their unhealthy sexual habits created for
millions...including stillborn babies who dropped from between the
legs of syphillitic women.
>Unrepentant homos belong in a quarantine colony waiting for a cure. Their
>avowed policies would condemn us all to extinction otherwise.
Nonsense. We don't need you breeders any more...there is artificial
insemination, and now, cloning. You're a Neanderthal about to go
extinct.
>If you think that homophobia is politically incorrect, I say that there is
>no such thing as political correctness, since by definition politics is
>arguement. How can politics that does not allow all opinions claim to be
>correct?
Easy. Politics *can* have an ethical value...without which, all
degrades into violence and war. You are an unethical, hideous soul
who spews virulent lies like balls of feces popping from your mouth.
It is your kind that breeds pestilence, war, and misery.
>Gentlemen, there is nothing as good as the love of a good woman. I cannot
>speak for women.
Wrong, as usual. The love between a straight man and woman is mostly
very conventional...with no shared struggles or tragedies to bind
their hearts together. But between two men or women, who have fought
together...or who struggle together in an insane, homophobic society
like ours...have a much stronger bond of love and nurturing...which no
typical straight male could ever comprehend. Thus, he lashes out in
violent jealousy, to those whose soaring expressions of brotherhood he
could never know, or deserve to have. Even your own Bible speaks of
this beautiful bond that happens between two guys...
Book 9 1 Samuel:
018:001 And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto
Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of
David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.
018:002 And Saul took him that day, and would let him go no more home
to his father's house.
018:003 Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him
as his own soul.
018:004 And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him,
and gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and
to his bow, and to his girdle.
Book 10 2 Samuel:
001:026 I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant
hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing
the love of women.
---------------------
But I'm glad you spew your hate in the public's eye. Why? This:
Laws will soon be established *against* homophobia, in this country,
as they already have in numerous other democracies. This means that
we will then be able to call to the carpet, the worst abusers and
disseminators of this hate crime...in the same way Nazis are still
hunted down and forced to face a jury.
Thanks to growing databases like DejaNews,
http://www.gms.lu/search/dejanews/load.html
we non-phobes can use its search engines to track down homophobic
spewers that have spread their bigotry on Usenet.
So I'm *glad*, nay *joyful* that you 'phobes are showing your true
colors for all the world to see, via the Internet. Giving you enough
rope to hang yourselves, as it were.
Those who have the time and inclination, might want to generate a
first list on these offenders now...get a jump on things, as it were.
Once the anti-homophobe laws are in place, BANG, up pops the list, and
away it sails to civil courts across the nation.
And better yet: eventually these anti-homophobic laws will be
*global*.
----------------
I think I'll toss you one more bone, oh dog among men:
The historical roots of modern homophobia lie in the
early Hebrews' need to propagate in order to outnumber their
tribal enemies. Thus it became a heinous sin for any male to
"spill seed" outside of a woman's "vessel". Same-sex love was
therefore incorporated by their religious leaders to be an
abomination in the eyes of God. (Christianity's emergence
carried forth this heterosexist supremacy into modern times
with a vengeance so cruel, that it can only be deemed a mass
insanity or psychosis.) Perhaps this extreme measure was a
necessary evil, as a matter of survival to a tribe threatened
with annihilation by enemies on every side. But that was
several thousand years ago, and now we live in a world far
too populated for its own well-being.
Perhaps it is time for God to reverse the ancient law of
homophobia and declare it a sin *not* to waste seed. Perhaps
we should no longer "turn the other cheek" (to use the
fundamentalists' own Christian terminology), but revert to the
ancient Mosaic law of "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"
(or in this case, a baby for a queer). Perhaps it is time for
a "New Passover"--only this one for queers--sacrificing the
hetero firstborn of every breeder as Yahweh's warning to give
us our freedom. Perhaps the act of "breeding" (without strict
social guidelines) should now be made a crime punishable by
death. Enforced spilling of seed anywhere except in a woman's
vessel may be the "necessary evil" to save us from global
disaster--and will put new meaning in the phrase "turn the
other cheek".
Remember, homophobic swines: you do not *make* a
baby--only genetics (read "God") can do that. Woman is just
the vessel. It is how you raise a child that counts...which
has nothing to do with whether one's parents are "natural" or
not. As a matter of fact, the current rise in child abuse
(and neglect) by heterosexist parents, is so alarming that
even a test tube would provide a safer haven to these hapless
offspring. It takes no brains to insert rod A into slot B,
which is the only reason you illiterate homophobic simians can
breed at all. And the only reason most of you breed your
brains out is to assure each other that you are not
homosexual--with your fleshly offspring as your "Good
Housekeeping Seal Of Approval" to parade before us queers in
our own neighborhoods. Stop screwing, and read a good book
for once in your life.
And never forget: "There's a little homo in every homo sapiens".
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(except on request; will consider pen-pals).
Private, hostile comments will be re-posted in public.
>>>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
>>>spreaders that they are.
>>You are so ignorant that it is not even laughable.....
You did well in correcting the errors in the original correspondence.
It takes great patience to deal gracefully with such stupidity.
One of the depressing things about participating in a newsgroup is
that one encounters knuckle-draggers such as this homophobic
throwback. I suppose that it's important for us to know that such
dreadful people are around, but it is always depressing to encounter
their ravings.
How ignorant, unsophisticated and self-referencing some of these
people are. It does help to explain the election of Reform
candidates though.
> Laws will soon be established *against* homophobia, in this country,
How can a government establish laws regarding what one thinks?
There is no such thing as homophobia. It's a myth. Homosexual advocates
define anyone who may disagree with their lifestyle or position as
"homophobic" and thus somehow sick.
Should you be considered unstable or ill if you disagree with my position?
I do not consider you sick simply because I may disagree with you. Have
you considered that Adolf Hitler labeled those who disagreed with his
positions as "sick"?
--
Sometimes you get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if you look
at it right.
> >>>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
> >>>spreaders that they are.
>
What is a 'normal' person?
Thousands of heterosexuals died from syphillis before a cure was found,
should they have been hated for being 'foul disease spreaders'?
I notice it is only 'faggits' that you hate, is this because a lesbian is
least likly to contact HIV then any heterosexual man?
It seems to me that your foul postings only spread the disease of your
poisonous mind.
Alan
At 09:46 1/3/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>I just noticed your posting on the alt.homosexual.politics ng. I suspect
>that you will get flamed by some,
*Many already, though not much lately.
>for your vivid language and your
*I am flattered that you see the vividity.
>opposition to homosexuality.
*presumed, not proved nor true. I do not seek to deny homos happiness, on
the contrary.
> But my intent is not to flame you, but to ask
>whether you would consider corresponding with me.
>
*I try to consider everything.
>I am a college student and a homo, but I greatly respect heterosexuals and
*Off of your knees, please.
>believe that deviants have an obligation to understand the positions of
>normal men.
*no-one is 'normal', all are individuals.
So few people speak clearly these days, I admire people who are
>not restricted by "political correctness."
*I do not like being patronised.
>
>I am interested in knowing more about the basis of your opposition to
>homosexuality.
*I find it (ahem) unappetising!
Is your opposition primarily based on your religious belief
>that homosexuality is immoral?
*You presume that my religous belief fits some mould you seem to think you
know. What are morals if not only the most commonly accepted rules this
week? Different people feel that different things are, or should
obviously be repugnant to everyone. I think it is obvious that God put us
here for the purpose of discovering why he put us here, and to allow us an
opportunity to handle that discussion, or see if we would simply ignore the
question because it seems too difficult. That lack of thought is the
biggest failing in most people. I never claimed to know everything.
Or do you also have a biological objection?
*Biologically speaking, I have stated that I suspect it may be a natural
and pathological response to stress in some. I cannot see a viable reason
to think it would evolve as a desirable feature. It may be a failing
similar to that which enables addiction. I am addicted to cigarettes, I
think because it satisfies a need in me to socialise considering that I
found socialising to be so difficult when I was young. Similarly, homos
may be responding to some unconquerable stress by adopting a self
destructive pattern of behavoir. Homosexuality is self destructive, as it
prevents breeding. So called bisexuality is more understandable, as it is
simply a licentious (sp?), promiscuous persuit of something found to be
pleasurable, without the constraint of 'morality'. I do not see any
problem in believing in God and in evolution simultaneously. I also
believe that there is a natural morality which is deducible, and will
result in the best possible compromise. Exactly what that is is not clear
to me yet, but I persevere.
>
>Do you think homosexual acts should be outlawed,
*No, but I would be more comfortable if it was not a problem. I think I
would prefer a world where the stresses were fewer and people wanted to try
harder to be more considerate of others. The golden rule etc. I think
humans will continue to evolve toward an ideal, a unreachable utopia, if we
don't destroy the planet.
and if so what punishment
>do you think would be appropriate?
>
*Punishment would only be a question if as was discussed long ago, a homo
or any person with aids supported infecting others so as to stimulate the
search for a cure (or for other reasons.) In this case, I must condider
death an option for repeat, escaped offenders. But generally am opposed to
it for mistakes sake.
>I know that you are opposed to homosexuals in the military
*How do you KNOW this? I don't recall saying so, but I think that any
caring person in the military would want not to worry his buddies with the
problem, there are enough troubles in the military already. Clinton's
solution, 'Don't ask, don't tell' is probably the best compromise. All of
life is compromise. Sexual behavoir is personal and private dammit, or we
bring hell to earth. I am not a supporter of pedophilia either, as was
disputed by some asshole who does not discuss, only insult.
? Could you
>explain more fully the basis of your opposition?
*I do not believe homosexuality is a normal part of the process of
evolutionary procreation, but that it is a spurious, counterproductive
(unless it is reversible) survival response of those who for some unknown
reasons cannot accept the stress of life induced by the socialisation (or
'civilisation') of humans, who are, IMHO, still physiologically and
psychologically better adapted to more animalistic habits of behavoir. But
we struggle to overcome our animalism, n'est pas?
>I missed the earlier part of this thread. *Who didn't?
>
>How do you feel about gay marriage!
*Why marriage? Why not leave it at lifelong companionship? This point
revolves around unneeded medical coverage questions, and pension survivor
benefits designed to support dependant widows and orphans. Marriage is a
religious and social device intended to protect 'deflowered, helpless
women' and legitimate children of normal sexual union. As well it seems
another casualty of our society. Why burden it more?
No one can prevent any two people from declaring in good faith to each
other that they will remain together until death, and that is what marriage
means to most. You don't need a 'priest' to get married, unless you seek
state recognition of some monetary obligation implied by it. Why not
quietly sign a partnership contract if you need to (why?), and stop making
people sick who are disgusted by the concept? Many if not most married
couples find homomarriage degrading and insulting to their own morality.
Why pick a fight you don't need?
As far as children is concerned, I believe that, among other arguements,
those who grant homosexual 'couples' the right to foster or adopt children
open themselves to liability from the children, if those children claim
that the government denied them the right to 'normal' parents. Do you
think it wise to open that can of worms?
>Sorry to bombard you with questions. I realize that you are probably not
>as obsessed with the issue as I am and may not have thought about all
>these questions, but I would in any case be grateful for any thoughts you
>might have.
*I think that I am not obsessed with this issue, but I have some time,
being recently retired, and got drawn into this thread in response to a
certain discussion. I should have known that most of the people who get
involved with public discussion in usenet forums seem to fit into one of
two classes: those who rant and rave, and those who soon tire of the drivel
that inevitably swamps any reasonable discussion therein, then leave.
>
>I realize that you may not want to correspond with a queer, or may in any
>case be very busy. But please be assured that I will receive any
>correspondence from you respectfully. I just want to understand more why
>most guys find homosexuality so objectionable.
*Please try to be not quite so resectful, I find it discomforting. We
should address each other as equals. I repeat, (ahem) it's the flavour.
*Not all gays are objectionable, but some literally threaten to take over
the world, seduce my sons, infect my daughters, outlaw heterosexuality,
kill all the women and breed in test tubes. While some will say that is
ridiculous, I know it to be so. These types come in differing degrees, of
course. These statements I find so despicable that they could only be
considered as hate literature published by sick people of whatever
prediliction who would serve us all better if confined in asylums, awaiting
a cure, as was my originally stated opinion. I cannot accept any arguement
that these statements are 'a joke', which formed the basis of my second
posting. These 'jokes' have convinced some to adopt such a philosophy, as
did the nazis with their own brand of insanity. Who was it who said 'If my
leader is willing to accept 10% casualties, I can get my troops to do
anything.'? Do you know that he was refferring to 10% disciplinary
executions for disobedience? ('Decimation', actually) There are some really
scary people out there.
As a caveat, I would remind you that i have rattled this off of my cuff. I
have not spent a great deal of time analysing and trying to eliminate all
possible avenues of subjective misinterpretation. I would suggest that any
one who presumes too much is mentally lazy, and not really interested in
discovering the truth, but may be only too quickly utilising an opportunity
to expound unthinkingly. I am tired and will quit now, but before I go,
let me say that it is a pleasure to discuss things with any thoughtful
person.
Hopefully we can enjoy a real discussion.
-Terry
>Thanks,
>
>Claude
>
Jeff
>In article <5fa9a3$2...@news.inforamp.net>, crs...@inforamp.net (John
>Carrick) wrote:
>> >>>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
>> >>>spreaders that they are.
>>
>What is a 'normal' person?
>Thousands of heterosexuals died from syphillis before a cure was found,
>should they have been hated for being 'foul disease spreaders'?
>I notice it is only 'faggits' that you hate, is this because a lesbian is
>least likly to contact HIV then any heterosexual man?
>It seems to me that your foul postings only spread the disease of your
>poisonous mind.
>Alan
do you spread aids alan????
normal is what the majority of people do
and most know what there pecker is really used for
the anus is an exit!!
: normal is what the majority of people do
: and most know what there pecker is really used for
: the anus is an exit!!
O ye of little imagination. Plenty of straight guys enjoy anal sex
too, my friend. (And it is rumoured that some of them even have sex
outside of wedlock... but surely this is too horrible to contemplate...)
le meas
Neil A. McEwan
--
> alan...@dial.pipex.com (Alan) wrote:
>
> >In article <5fa9a3$2...@news.inforamp.net>, crs...@inforamp.net (John
> >Carrick) wrote:
>
> >> >>>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
> >> >>>spreaders that they are.
> >>
> >What is a 'normal' person?
>
> >Thousands of heterosexuals died from syphillis before a cure was found,
> >should they have been hated for being 'foul disease spreaders'?
>
> >I notice it is only 'faggits' that you hate, is this because a lesbian is
> >least likly to contact HIV then any heterosexual man?
>
> >It seems to me that your foul postings only spread the disease of your
> >poisonous mind.
>
> >Alan
>
> do you spread aids alan????
No, and neither does anyone else.
Are you confusing aids with HIV?
>
> normal is what the majority of people do
The majority of people do not go to the opera!
> and most know what there pecker is really used for
Their pecker is 'really' used for whatever they choose to use it for.
I think you wish to make a 'value' judgement and so your statement should read
' and most know what there pecker "SHOULD" be used for'
I am of the opinion that ones pecker can be used to
1/Procreate (If one is not sterile)
2/ Express love and intamacy in a relationship (Through the sharing of
sexual
pleaseure)
3/ Be used just for some sexual bliss, either alone or with a consenting
adult.
Anal sex is something heterosexuals indulge in, not just gay men. If
you are of the view that gay sexual acts spread disease. Then why do you
see the situation of heterosexuals and syphilis as being different.
The only difference I see is that we now have a cure for stphilis, sadly
we are still waiting for a cure for aids.
>
> the anus is an exit!!
So it is!! And what does this prove? The mouth as evloved as an organ for
eating and in the case of primates communication. Does that mean that we
as human beings should stop licking stamps, after all the mouth did not
evolve for that reason.
Why get so hung up about sexual habits? There is nothing wrong with sexual
bliss!!
Alan
That is why your "normal" people have more anal intercourse than to the
morally superior homosexuals.... and thems the facts..... just check the
stats and you will see.....
All orifaces of the body can be both exits and entrances....
>dkenter...@cadvision.com wrote:
>
>
>: normal is what the majority of people do
>: and most know what there pecker is really used for
>
>: the anus is an exit!!
>
>
> O ye of little imagination. Plenty of straight guys enjoy anal sex
>too, my friend. (And it is rumoured that some of them even have sex
>outside of wedlock... but surely this is too horrible to contemplate...)
>
>
>le meas
>
>Neil A. McEwan
>--
And even more horrifying, Neil: There are lots of married guys in this
area (Maine) who not only enjoy anal sex, but they enjoy anal sex with
other men.. You see them in the bushes up here and in the video
booths. Such straight guys they are!
DMF
>>>>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseases
>>>>spreaders that they are.
>>>You are so ignorant that it is not even laughable.....
>You did well in correcting the errors in the original correspondence.
>It takes great patience to deal gracefully with such stupidity.
>One of the depressing things about participating in a newsgroup is
>that one encounters knuckle-draggers such as this homophobic
>throwback. I suppose that it's important for us to know that such
>dreadful people are around, but it is always depressing to encounter
>their ravings.
Aloha John --
Take heart -- the very malevolence and stupidity
of their postings reveals that they are in a sort
of desperate struggle to support a crumbling
structure. WE have seized the high-ground, WE are
making human rights progress, more and more with
each passing year.
On any evenings Television you are apt to see
homosexual citizens portrayed as just that,
citizens. This acceptance of our humanity is
driving the ‘phobes out of their minds and they
have become utterly unable to distinguish
junk-think like the constructions over "Adam and
Steve" for actual thought -- are unable to
distinguish between the psycho-Pats and actual
religious people
Bluster, Buncombe, Bullshit and lies seem to be
all they have left -- worst of all from their
position they have not a clue in the world as to
WHY they are losing the battle -- like some great
lurch staring at a chess board they just stand
around and drool --- pitiful.
Ward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
When someone with the authority of a teacher, say,
describes the world and you are not in it, there is a
moment of psychic disequilibrium, as if you looked
into a mirror and saw nothing.
--Adrienne Rich, "Invisibility in Academe"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> I am of the opinion that ones pecker can be used to
>
> 1/Procreate (If one is not sterile) 2/ Express love and intamacy in a relationship (Through the sharing
of sexual pleaseure)
3/ Be used just for some sexual bliss, either alone or with a
consenting adult.
I also like to use mine to piss out of, hope no one objects.
Jeff
Alan <alan...@dial.pipex.com> wrote in article
<alan_bird-020...@news.dial.pipex.com>...
> In article <5fb5nn$42...@elmo.cadvision.com>, dkenter...@cadvision.com
wrote:
>
> > alan...@dial.pipex.com (Alan) wrote:
> >
> > >In article <5fa9a3$2...@news.inforamp.net>, crs...@inforamp.net (John
> > >Carrick) wrote:
> >
> > >> >>>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul
diseases
> > >> >>>spreaders that they are.
> > >>
> > >What is a 'normal' person?
> >
> > >Thousands of heterosexuals died from syphillis before a cure was
found,
> > >should they have been hated for being 'foul disease spreaders'?
> >
> > >I notice it is only 'faggits' that you hate, is this because a lesbian
is
> > >least likly to contact HIV then any heterosexual man?
> >
> > >It seems to me that your foul postings only spread the disease of your
> > >poisonous mind.
> >
> > >Alan
> >
> > do you spread aids alan????
>
> No, and neither does anyone else.
> Are you confusing aids with HIV?
>
>
> >
> > normal is what the majority of people do
>
> The majority of people do not go to the opera!
>
>
> > and most know what there pecker is really used for
>
> Their pecker is 'really' used for whatever they choose to use it for.
>
> I think you wish to make a 'value' judgement and so your statement should
read
> ' and most know what there pecker "SHOULD" be used for'
>
> I am of the opinion that ones pecker can be used to
>
> 1/Procreate (If one is not sterile)
>
> 2/ Express love and intamacy in a relationship (Through the sharing of
> sexual
> pleaseure)
>
> 3/ Be used just for some sexual bliss, either alone or with a
consenting
> adult.
>
>
> Anal sex is something heterosexuals indulge in, not just gay men. If
> you are of the view that gay sexual acts spread disease. Then why do you
> see the situation of heterosexuals and syphilis as being different.
>
> The only difference I see is that we now have a cure for stphilis, sadly
> we are still waiting for a cure for aids.
>
> >
> > the anus is an exit!!
>
> So it is!! And what does this prove? The mouth as evloved as an organ for
> eating and in the case of primates communication. Does that mean that we
> as human beings should stop licking stamps, after all the mouth did not
> evolve for that reason.
>
>
>
>
> Why get so hung up about sexual habits? There is nothing wrong with
sexual
> bliss!!
>
> Alan
>
Homosexuals are sick, weak people. You can try to justify your sexual
perversion anyway you like, but in reality most classify homosexuals as
perverts along the same line as pedophiles.
You should have more dignity in your life than to be a dirty pervert.
>Alan
okay alan just as long as your very far away from
me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you do what nyou want to do
just dont teach my kid it is normal
someone should teach you what your pecker is for!
> >Alan
> okay alan just as long as your very far away from
> me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You presume I am Gay! Why?
I would certainly do 'it' far away from you.
> you do what nyou want to do
>
> just dont teach my kid it is normal
This is where I disagree with you. Why should your child not be told it is
'normal'.
what if your child turns out to be Gay, what are you going to do, disown
your child?
>
> someone should teach you what your pecker is for!
I don't need any lessons, by pecker gives me plenty of pleasure.
Alan
Now that cloning is possible, the normal people will reproduce more
rapidly, and the faggots, who can not reproduce will become extinct,
hopefully sooner than later.
The only good faggot, is a cremated one.
Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, Ward Stewart wrote:
> crs...@inforamp.net (John Carrick) wrote:
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> >>>>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul diseas=
es
> >>>>spreaders that they are.
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> >>>You are so ignorant that it is not even laughable.....
> >You did well in correcting the errors in the original correspondence.
> >It takes great patience to deal gracefully with such stupidity.
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> >One of the depressing things about participating in a newsgroup is
> >that one encounters knuckle-draggers such as this homophobic
> >throwback. I suppose that it's important for us to know that such
> >dreadful people are around, but it is always depressing to encounter
> >their ravings. =20
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> Aloha John --=20
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> Take heart -- the very malevolence and stupidity
> of their postings reveals that they are in a sort
> of desperate struggle to support a crumbling
> structure. WE have seized the high-ground, WE are
> making human rights progress, more and more with
> each passing year.
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> On any evenings Television you are apt to see
> homosexual citizens portrayed as just that,
> citizens. This acceptance of our humanity is
> driving the =91phobes out of their minds and they
> have become utterly unable to distinguish
> junk-think like the constructions over "Adam and
> Steve" for actual thought -- are unable to
> distinguish between the psycho-Pats and actual
> religious people
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> Bluster, Buncombe, Bullshit and lies seem to be
> all they have left -- worst of all from their
> position they have not a clue in the world as to
> WHY they are losing the battle -- like some great
> lurch staring at a chess board they just stand
> around and drool --- pitiful.
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> Ward
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> When someone with the authority of a teacher, say,
> describes the world and you are not in it, there is a
> moment of psychic disequilibrium, as if you looked
> into a mirror and saw nothing.
> =09--Adrienne Rich, "Invisibility in Academe"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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AIDS was spread worldwide and started, by the Canadian faggot with Air
Canada, known as "patient zero". This is well detailed and documented in
the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON"
No amount of bleating by the perverts will relieve them of their guilt for
spreading AIDS DELIBERATELY, through the Red Cross Blood Service, as
verified by the Krever Commission!!!
Sorry, but for faggots, the only compassion I have is for them to be
instantly cremated.
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Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
On Sun, 2 Mar 1997, bochum26 wrote:
>
>
> Alan <alan...@dial.pipex.com> wrote in article
> <alan_bird-020...@news.dial.pipex.com>...
> > In article <5fb5nn$42...@elmo.cadvision.com>, dkenter...@cadvision.com
> wrote:
> >
> > > alan...@dial.pipex.com (Alan) wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <5fa9a3$2...@news.inforamp.net>, crs...@inforamp.net (John
> > > >Carrick) wrote:
> > >
> > > >> >>>Normal people have good reason to loathe faggots, for the foul
>In article <5fcvfo$3u...@elmo.cadvision.com>, dkenter...@cadvision.com wrote:
>> >Alan
>> okay alan just as long as your very far away from
>> me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>You presume I am Gay! Why?
I did not mention you were gay
are you feeling guilty?
>I would certainly do 'it' far away from you.
>> you do what nyou want to do
>>
>> just dont teach my kid it is normal
>This is where I disagree with you. Why should your child not be told it is
>'normal'.
who taught you it was normal
sex is for reproduction
have to males or females ever reproduced?
>what if your child turns out to be Gay, what are you going to do, disown
>your child?
why would my child turn out to be gay unless he had OUTSIDE influnces
>> someone should teach you what your pecker is for!
>I don't need any lessons, by pecker gives me plenty of pleasure.
>Alan
so you admit your a pervert?
You should learn more about the subject that you post about..... your
ingnorance is really very great in this regard....
Most homosexuals cannot be singled out from the rest of the
population.... and many many many are the he-men of the societies in
which they live.... and some even are considered romantic stars,
Randolph Scott as an example <romantic western movie star> with a very
large cult following in the heterosexual community....
clueless is as clueless does!
bochum26==clueless==ignoramus
--
Ciao!
John S. 8^{)>
tedd...@netcom.com
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You seem to have it backwards..... since the sciences are very much a
field of endeavor to which the homosexual is attracted and since it is
that field that will be controlling the cloning, it is the homosexual
that will get cloned and not the heterosexual homophobe....
Also where did you get the idea that a homosexual cannot reproduce....
And what makes you think that since all homosexuals come from the mating
of 2 heterosexuals that attempting to killoff the present population of
homosexuals will eliminate the homosexual.....
clueless is as clueless does!
wahrheit==clueless==ignoramus
Isn't this jerk a member of the phelps clan of inbreds....
Notice that your ignorance is showing again.... but what is new for
you....
>AIDS was spread worldwide and started, by the Canadian faggot with Air
>Canada, known as "patient zero". This is well detailed and documented in
>the book, "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON"
>
Randy Shilts freely admitted that he created this myth to illustrate his
book... it is fiction.....
>No amount of bleating by the perverts will relieve them of their guilt for
>spreading AIDS DELIBERATELY, through the Red Cross Blood Service, as
>verified by the Krever Commission!!!
>
AIDS cannot be spread by anyone.... it is a syndrome and not a
disease.....
>Sorry, but for faggots, the only compassion I have is for them to be
>instantly cremated.
>
Your grey matter must have drained out when you were dropped upon your
head as an infant....
clueless is as clueless does!
wahrheit==clueless==ignoramus
Isn't this jerk one of the phelps clan of inbreds.....
So Mr.Pravda/Wahrheit is now into his gospel of hate again.
What do you think you should do to the children in the Aids
pediatric wards? Yell "faggot" at them.
Warheit,
Yours is a far more serious illness.
Yours is the ever continuous spewing of hate.
An endless repetoire of venom.
Is it genetic. From your mother & father?
From father and goat?
"NORMAL PEOPLE"?
You don't really think that YOU are anything like a "normal" person do
you?
> someone should teach you what your pecker is for!
Someone should teach you what your life is for.
You obviously don't have a clue.
If you keep your children totally shielded from any hint
of the existence of homosexuality in the world, and one
of your children turns out to be a homosexual, what will
you do then, Mr. Family Man?
Beat it out of him? Shame it out of him? Ridicule it out
of him?
And when all your efforts lead him to commit suicide,
who will you blame then? Your wife? The therapist?
--
John
NOTE: "From" address is deliberately wrong.
My correct e-mail address is:
> Actually, the faggots are losing.
>
> Now that cloning is possible, the normal people will reproduce more
> rapidly, and the faggots, who can not reproduce will become extinct,
> hopefully sooner than later.
>
> The only good faggot, is a cremated one.
>
> Warning the World About CGA Accountants from Canada
>
>
Oh god, I thought we had gotten rid of you. Some times venereal
diseases just come back to haunt ya.
How do you figure that?
> Now that cloning is possible,
It may be possible in the fairly near future. We've seen a real start
toward it, but if it does come to pass, it will be years away.
> the normal people
Got news for you pal, you are not "normal".
>will reproduce more rapidly,
They do that just fine the old-fashioned way.
> and the faggots, who can not reproduce will become extinct,
> hopefully sooner than later.
Sexuality has no bearing on the ability to clone. You take some
cells from a creature and use them as a starting point to create
another that is genetically identical. If human cloning becomes
feasible, gays will be able to do it as easily as hets. Considering
that a person is more than the sum of their DNA, it may be that the
clones of some hets may be gay, just as the reverse would probably be
possible.
> The only good faggot, is a cremated one.
You misspelled "bigot".