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David Marc Nieporent

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Oct 15, 1991, 1:43:21 AM10/15/91
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Game 5, NLCS
Tim McCarver (I think) speaking:

The Quote:
"The walk lead to the run. When you walk a guy, it's almost as if
you're *giving* them a run. They didn't have to earn it."

Does he not possibly think that there might be a reason besides
coincidence that Shawon Dunston walks as often as the Red Sox win the
World Series, while Wade Boggs walks as often as the Red Sox disappoint
their fans?
Did he ever think, that possibly, a player has to *earn* a walk? Did he
ever think?

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Valentine

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Oct 15, 1991, 12:12:05 PM10/15/91
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In article <15...@princeton.Princeton.EDU> niep...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
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>Did he ever think, that possibly, a player has to *earn* a walk? Did he
>ever think?

No, because in The Book the "walk" is a statistic kept only for
pitchers, just as the "error" is a statistic kept only for fielders.
The batter isn't given any credit for reaching base on either one.
This view explains a lot of the silly "swing at anything" opinions.

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Curtis Justus

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Oct 15, 1991, 11:53:50 AM10/15/91
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In article <15...@princeton.Princeton.EDU> niep...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>Game 5, NLCS
>Tim McCarver (I think) speaking:
>
>The Quote:
>"The walk lead to the run. When you walk a guy, it's almost as if
>you're *giving* them a run. They didn't have to earn it."
>
>Does he not possibly think that there might be a reason besides
>coincidence that Shawon Dunston walks as often as the Red Sox win the
>World Series, while Wade Boggs walks as often as the Red Sox disappoint
>their fans?
>Did he ever think, that possibly, a player has to *earn* a walk? Did he
>ever think?
>

Yup. Through the entire NLCS, I have found myself being more frustrated
with the calling of the game, than entertained with the play. In game 4,
David Justice had an errand throw to 3rd. Of course, we were reminded
of it oh say 15-20 times. It seemed like they were trying to pull a
"senate on Thomas" on Justice.

But this is just one isolated incident. Those @#$%&*!! boneheads at CBS
have the worst announcing crews in the world. Why do they still have the
contract (don't worry, I know why)? I remember in the good ole' days when
I could turn on the boob tube at 1:30 every Saturday in the summer and
find a good baseball game on. But CBS must be a jack of all trades and
show gymnastics, tennis, golf, marbles, recursive 15-puzzle solutions :-),
and whatever other stupid things you could think of.

Oh well, I suppose I won't be happy until I inherit Ted Turner's assets
and run my own networks (yeah, right). If worst comes to worst, I will
turn off the volume and call my own game.

C-ya,
CJ
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Rick Casares

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Oct 15, 1991, 12:13:57 PM10/15/91
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In article <15...@princeton.Princeton.EDU>, niep...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
|> Game 5, NLCS
|> Tim McCarver (I think) speaking:
|>
|> The Quote:
|> "The walk lead to the run. When you walk a guy, it's almost as if
|> you're *giving* them a run. They didn't have to earn it."
|>
|> Does he not possibly think that there might be a reason besides
|> coincidence that Shawon Dunston walks as often as the Red Sox win the
|> World Series, while Wade Boggs walks as often as the Red Sox disappoint
|> their fans?
|> Did he ever think, that possibly, a player has to *earn* a walk? Did he
|> ever think?
|

I thought it was particularly funny that Shawon Dunston was in the
list of "Hardest to Walk" amongst all these excellent contact hitters.

Rick

Paul Ondercin

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Oct 15, 1991, 3:24:50 PM10/15/91
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All that I can say about CBS is this, whenever a games comes up on TV that
is not announced by my team's official announcers, I turn off the sound and
turn UP the radio. It works great! ( Too bad I'm at college in Peoria now, and
the couple of second delay can be a little messy. "And He's OUT!", while the
balls about three feet away...)

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Bob De Guc

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Oct 15, 1991, 4:59:09 PM10/15/91
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IMHO so is your Subject line :^)

Bob

From niep...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Idiotic TV Announcer is redundant
Date: 15 Oct 91 05:43:21 GMT

Game 5, NLCS
Tim McCarver (I think) speaking:

The Quote:
"The walk lead to the run. When you walk a guy, it's almost as if
you're *giving* them a run. They didn't have to earn it."

Does he not possibly think that there might be a reason besides
coincidence that Shawon Dunston walks as often as the Red Sox win the
World Series, while Wade Boggs walks as often as the Red Sox disappoint
their fans?
Did he ever think, that possibly, a player has to *earn* a walk? Did he
ever think?

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Len Reed

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Oct 16, 1991, 6:57:42 PM10/16/91
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In article <62...@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> de...@holein1.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
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>Game 5, NLCS
>Tim McCarver (I think) speaking:
>
>The Quote:
>"The walk lead to the run. When you walk a guy, it's almost as if
>you're *giving* them a run. They didn't have to earn it."

Not at all the dumbest thing Timmy has said in the NLCS, though.
He claimed Ozzie Smith saves two runs a game by his defense.
Now *that's* stupid.
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Shawn V. Hernan

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Oct 17, 1991, 11:22:28 AM10/17/91
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In article <1991Oct16....@holos0.uucp> l...@holos0.uucp (Len Reed) writes:

>Not at all the dumbest thing Timmy has said in the NLCS, though.
>He claimed Ozzie Smith saves two runs a game by his defense.
>Now *that's* stupid.

Well, he probably does, as compared to having *no* shortstop. :-)

Shawn


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Ami A. Silberman

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Oct 17, 1991, 4:29:53 PM10/17/91
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niep...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:

>Game 5, NLCS
>Tim McCarver (I think) speaking:

>The Quote:
>"The walk lead to the run. When you walk a guy, it's almost as if
>you're *giving* them a run. They didn't have to earn it."

>Does he not possibly think that there might be a reason besides
>coincidence that Shawon Dunston walks as often as the Red Sox win the
>World Series, while Wade Boggs walks as often as the Red Sox disappoint
>their fans?
>Did he ever think, that possibly, a player has to *earn* a walk? Did he
>ever think?

When you walk Shawon Dunston, you are giving him first base.

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Brian Kiviat

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Oct 18, 1991, 1:29:42 PM10/18/91
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The SS made a very good play deep in the hole and McCarver says
"NOBODY else would have made that play" I can count about 5 that
do all the time!

These guy are pitifull, where are Jon Miller and Jim Palmer when you
need them, or at least John Lowenstein for comic relief.

Lowenstein said after they showed a "healthy" looking girl in the stands:
"Now there's 2 reasons to come to the ballpark!"
I bet they got some calls about that one.

Sherri Nichols

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Oct 18, 1991, 1:37:37 PM10/18/91
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In article <1991Oct16....@holos0.uucp> l...@holos0.uucp (Len Reed) writes:
>Not at all the dumbest thing Timmy has said in the NLCS, though.
>He claimed Ozzie Smith saves two runs a game by his defense.
>Now *that's* stupid.

No, Timmy didn't say that. Jim Kaat said that.

It is mind-boggingly stupid, though.

Sherri Nichols
snic...@adobe.com

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