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Macromed5

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One of those lovely Usenet threads that, with luck, goes on for what seems
forever:

What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.


Me, I'm continuing on Bach's Two-Part Inventions, and trying to smooth and
memorize "Heliotrope Bouquet" from Joplin and Chauvin. I'll likely get some
other pieces into the gaps, but those are the big goals for this week for me
and my freebass CBA.

What's the agenda in your practice sessions now...?

Regards,
John Dowdell


mir...@kiva.net

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> What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.
>
> Regards,
> John Dowdell
>

well, john, i am practicing "acceptance", "patience", "compassion",
"faith" and "determination"...
getting a bit stuck on some parts and much choppier than i would
prefer...practice! practice! practice!

OH! you meant on our instruments! ;) well, very little--as time is so
filled with my "other" practices---and "life-stuff"---but i am just
running thru all i have learned so far....seeing what is *just there* in
my automatic memory....keeping it active.

good question tho---should bring up some interesting responses!

jenny
loving (although not as often as she'd like right now) her humble stagi
anglo

bloomington, indiana, usa
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Macromed5 wrote:
> One of those lovely Usenet threads that, with luck, goes on for what seems
> forever:
>
> What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.
>
> Me, I'm continuing on Bach's Two-Part Inventions, and trying to smooth and
> memorize "Heliotrope Bouquet" from Joplin and Chauvin. I'll likely get some
> other pieces into the gaps, but those are the big goals for this week for me
> and my freebass CBA.
>
> What's the agenda in your practice sessions now...?

Fancy running into you in a non-Director-related newsgroup, John!

I've started playing the squeezebox recently (I'm an organ/synth player)
-- it's a Titano piano accordion that's been sitting dormant in a
friend's basement for years. He was only too happy to get rid of the
thing for no money at all. My synth playing buddy Krazy Karl liked
playing mine so much that he went out to a pawn shop and bought his own.
Last Saturday, we went out on the town (it being a beautiful sunny day
in Toronto), playing (and singing/screaming) pop tunes for anyone who
would listen. Since we're not quite yet used to the chord buttons (it's
one thing to know of the circle of 5ths and another thing to play with
it), we tended to keep things in the I-IV-V and I-VII=IV vein. That, and
the fact that it seems that we know the *complete* lyrics to very few songs...

- She Sells Sanctuary (The Cult)
- Praise You (Fatboy Slim)
- Wild Thing/Louie Louie (The Troggs/The Kingsmen)
- Underwhlemed (Sloan)
- Head Like a Hole (Nine Inch Nails)
- Lean on Me (Uhhh...who did the original?)
- Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring (J.S.B.!)

We wandered into the local goth bar where they absolutely loved us and
gave us free drinks in exchange for performing on stage (we have black
accordions and gothed out for the event). Then we made enough money
busking to go out for late night Chinese food. All in all, a great first
nigth out with the squeezeboxes.

This week, we're rehearsing some ska numbers (Mirror in the Bathroom,
Message to you Rudy), some punk (Clampdown, here in Your Bedroom) and
some goth (Virus, Swampt Thing). And "Little Brown Jug".

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Donald B. Larson

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O.K. I'll paw through my music I've got on the top of the stack...

First off, I'm preparing to play at a Scandinavian and Scottish Wedding
in
early June. I'm learning dance tunes for the reception. They include

Styrmansvalsen (Arr. by Carl J. Hohnson)
Ro/ragenvalsen (from Norway)
Vals etter Jens Smed and Jens Vals II (By Jens Smed)
Reinlender etter Johannes Rangaggaard (By Johannes Rangaggaard, of
course (-: Etter means
"accordion to" in Norwegian and is used to indicate who
originated or arranged the piece. )
Ringlender etter Klemmet-Ola
Karlfant Vals fra Ro/ros etter Hilde Tanum


Also learning some American Swing era tunes for the reception.
In the Mood, Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy, Born Free.

--

Don Larson
Application/Performance Delivery Labs
Hewlett Packard in Cupertino, CA

Michael Berenstein

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mir...@kiva.net wrote:

> > What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.
> >

> > Regards,
> > John Dowdel

"Viva Teguin". Trying to figure out the chords accompaniment for it on a two
row.
"The Boys of the Blue Hill" for the sake of practice, don't like that tune.
Running into a luck of and need for exercises.


Peter Thornton

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G'day

> Really-From: macr...@aol.com (Macromed5)


> What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.

Funny you should ask. I've been busy concentrating on stuff for our new CD -
mainly accompanying songs (some Aussie songs, sea songs, shanties and the
like and a couple of tune sets). Been working on a fairly frantic-paced
arrangement for Meg Ryan's & John Mckenna's polkas with button accordion,
didgeridoo, guitar, bass, lagerphone and whistle. I'd like to see someone
try dancing a set to it!

Oh, and I think the CD will be called "Sea Boots 'n Swags" ... maybe....

Pete
Rocky River Bush Band & Rafferty's Rules
http://members.tripod.com/~rockyriverbushband/
South Coast Folk Club
http://www.Geocities.com/Athens/Troy/3624/index.html

NEB

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> > > What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to
know.
>
> "Viva Teguin". Trying to figure out the chords accompaniment for it on a
two
> row.
> "The Boys of the Blue Hill" for the sake of practice, don't like that
tune.
> Running into a luck of and need for exercises.

Jamming out a version of "Machynlleth" in A; "Trip to Erin".
I don't feel I know a tune unless I can jazz it up creatively without
getting lost! Anyone else feel the same?

Neil

chollin...@umext.umass.edu

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Practicing?
I am noodling on: La Vie en Rose and Japanese Sandman (Ok, Gary, I'm
using your book for its structure, but I am not going to put all of that stuff in the
tune).
For the band I am working on a break for "Stop Pretending"
(Mills Brothers) and "I Got Nothing But the Blues" (Ellington)
As a project, I am working on the chords for "I've Got Rhythm,"
sometimes known as "Rhythm Changes. " A lot of swing tunes follow
the same pattern. At Swing Camp the catch phrase for any tune in a session
is "Rhythm changes in Bb with a Honeysuckle Bridge" though it's rarely
the case. .. At the moment, I am working on them in F, then I will work
my way up in 5ths.


Craig Hollingsworth
L'accordioneste
Gypsy Wranglers http://www.tiac.net/users/treed/gypsywranglers
Leverett, Massachusetts chollin...@umext.umass.edu

PDibono

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I've tried the #8 Two Part Invention, and have gotten through the first half
page(sorta). I generally begin a practice session with scales, arp's, in three
keys, about 30/40 minutes, and then if I'm still awake, will work on a
challenging piece, right now it's an Andre Astier knuckle buster, Miss Karting.
Then I do some memorizing of pop repertoire. The memory doesn't work as well
as it used to. I try to put in several hours daily but usually that loses out
to the golf course.

Peter Di Bono, S. F.

bgant

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This week??? Seamus O'Brien, Plodder Seam, Nan's Waltz, along with some
chord assignments.

BG

>What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.

>


>What's the agenda in your practice sessions now...?
>

>Regards,
>John Dowdell


KEN WILSON

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On a much less exalted - but more topical - note : the Padstow Mayday
Song.

One of these years i am going to learn it "before" Mayday. The mood that
those guys create (helped by the drums and drink i guess) make me dust off
my accordian every time i go down.

Ken Wilson Hampshire. UK


Macromed5 wrote in message <19990504104635...@ng-cj1.aol.com>...


>One of those lovely Usenet threads that, with luck, goes on for what seems
>forever:
>

>What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.
>

>Regards,
>John Dowdell
>
>
>

Eric Root

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John Dowdell wrote:

>and trying to smooth and memorize "Heliotrope Bouquet" from Joplin and
Chauvin.<

I play that tune on guitar! One of my all-time favorite classical rags.
Another really good one is Joplin's the Silver Swan. (lost,
rediscovered fifty years later on a piano roll, originally arranged for
guitar in the '70's by the Dutch guitarist Ton van Bergeyck (sp?) which
led to it becoming a folkies on hammered dulcimer thing) A really
gorgeous tune that I've been playing for over twenty years, and if I
ever do it without _one_ mistake, my life will be complete. -If I ever
took up the duet concertina, it would be so I could play rags. The
English 'tina, much as I like it, is only really credible playing right
hand parts.

What am I practicing right now? Mostly Irish polkas and jigs, and
mostly Dorian mode (hey, I'm going through a
can't-get-enough-dorian-mode phase)

-Eric Root


"If there's anybody here who isn't trying to pick a fight, that's whose
side I'm on."


Mark Johnson

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Macromed5 wrote:
>
> One of those lovely Usenet threads that, with luck, goes on for what seems
> forever:
>
> What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.
>
I'm working out the chords and basses for "Toss the Feathers #1", and
beginning to memorize "The Maids of Tulla", a beautiful old reel.
CoolEdit has been a godsend - almost like having a button box master
sitting in the living room giving lessons.

Regards,

Mark Johnson
B/C button box


Joseph Kesselman, yclept Keshlam

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(Y'see, folks? Accordions aren't square any more; they've gone right out
the other end to ... well, what _is_ this week's word for "funky"?)

------------------------------------------------------
Joe Kesselman, http://www.lovesong.com/people/keshlam/
Performing May 8th at Walkabout Clearwater: VIVA QUETZAL!
http://www.lovesong.com/walkabout/coffeehouse.html

Sonja Midtlien

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"Donald B. Larson" wrote:

> O.K. I'll paw through my music I've got on the top of the stack...
>
> First off, I'm preparing to play at a Scandinavian and Scottish Wedding
> in
> early June. I'm learning dance tunes for the reception. They include
>
> Styrmansvalsen (Arr. by Carl J. Hohnson)
> Ro/ragenvalsen (from Norway)

> Etter means
> "accordion to" in Norwegian and is used to indicate who
> originated or arranged the piece. )
> Ringlender etter Klemmet-Ola

Guess what?
These pieces are all in my repertoire!
The correct way of spelling "Ro/ragenvalsen" is "Røragenvalsen", but I know that
you don't have the Norwegian letters on your jeyboard.

And the word "etter" means something like "made by" and your explanation is
correct.
:-))

Regards,
Sonja in Norway.


Sonja Midtlien

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Monday this week I performed at a local hospital, they have a cultural festival
going on there now. There was a group of folk dancers performing and they needed
a musician. A few years ago I played folk music/traditional Norwegian music for
several dance groups here, and since they asked me again I had to practice a
little... I have not played these special tunes since last time I played for a
group like this.

I play the keyboard/synth in addition and in 1994 I made a recording (MC), using
both my instrument.
Now people are beginning to ask me "if I don't think it is time to make a new
record, a CD?"
And yes, I think so.
And I want to, it is a great temptation. Unfortunately, it is very expensixe...
But I think the lack of money won't stop me because I'm already having a lot of
fun practicing the CD-repertoire...
LOL:-))

Sonja in Norway.


Sonja Midtlien

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> The correct way of spelling "Ro/ragenvalsen" is "Røragenvalsen", but I know that
> you don't have the Norwegian letters on your jeyboard.

jeyboard??
I did mean keyboard, of course...

Sonja.


ArrahCee

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>> What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.

What Daddy-- polka by John Whelan
The Steeplechase- Jackie Daly tune
Killoran's- same as above
Molly in the Biscuits- tune I wrote (and play
badly)
The Ganger's Ass-reel
Follow me Down- reel
Turf Lodge- Scots Jig

That's enough for one week.


Rick Cunningham
arra...@aol.com

Box Man

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+AD4-What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.
+AD4-

nice thread...

Just finished adding several new Mexican and Latin
tunes for some Cinco de Mayo parties:

Djobi Djoba
Amigos para Siempre
Bamboleo

songs i knew, but have expanded on by creating
MIDI files to run background while I play the lead

Aranauez
Cielito Lindo
Tico Tico
La Africana

Next up is some new material for my
+ACI-USO Dance party+ACI- show, which I run
from soon through July 4

Oh how I hate to get up in the Morning

one +ACI-something old - new - borrowed - blue+ACI-
midi file including the last 2 bars of MS between
tunes, just like he did on his radio show,
using lil brown Jug, So Rare, Don't be that Way,
and Under a Blanket of Blue.

Finish the +ACI-Apple Tree - American Patrol+ACI-
arrangement... MIDI and charts

Hope to finish them and be ready by May 15th.

Ciao Ventura


Dan Lavry

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Lately I have been "getting back" into a lot of Israeli songs. I know a
huge number of them, hard to count but I would estimate it to be way over a
hundred maybe two hundreds. A lot are rather simple (melody wise) and I get
to put some sneze by making sounding better chords and bass (better then
the standard "om pa om pa"). I practice a lot on my dynamic expresion,
which is easier with the slow stuff, more difficult on the fast music.

I have also "done my best" with some "big band era" stuff, worked on a
beatiful Albinoni arangmet, and yes, as soon as I heard about "helitrop
Bukey" (spelling is wrong I am sure), I jumped on it right away - today. It
is a beautifull melody - I played it on the piano years ago. I do not trust
my recollection totaly, but I seem to reacal that it was writen by someone
other the Scott Joplin, that did not know how to write music, and that
Joplin wrote it for him. My wife did not like when I played it. I loved it,
though I am not really into rag time music. It can be played with a lot of
feelings - it is a very "sensitive" tune, in my opinion.

Best

Dan Lavry

BobSmith4

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I am practicing my arrangement of "The
Ben Hur Chariot Race," which was originally written in 1894 by E. T. Paull. I
used to play it on my player piano, but that no longer works, so I have to play
it myself.

Note to Peter Di Bono: you are lucky that you can memorize at all. I seem to
have lost that ability.

Bob


Bruce Gerow

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Hi Mark,
I use Cool Edit also.It is just fantastic for learning a tune that is
recorded.I used it to pick out Phil Cunnimgham's 4 stroke reel.By slowing
down the playback every little ornament is revealed.I had to write it out
though to have a clue to remembering all those little notes.Good Fun!
LooseBruce

Macromed5

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Wow, cool thread... there's such a wide range that people here are working
on.... ;-)

Joey, howdy... accordion duo? Is Toronto ready? Sounds like a good weekend
though. (You mention ska, and I'm not sure which you mean, but the older
rocksteady and early Wailers stuff fits right in on a stradella bass...
spooky.) I'm glad you're finding a way to get the box get the sound you want,
and that people are responding to it.

Donald, where did you get the Scandinavian sheet music...?

Peter, what is "Andre Astier knuckle buster, Miss Karting"...?

"I'm going through a can't-get-enough-dorian-mode phase" Better than a "can't
get enough durian fruit phase", I guess.... ;-)


Some reels, jigs, polkas I know, some I haven't heard of before... wonder what
would happen if the didgeridoo came into a Dublin pub....

Dan, you mention putting arrangements behind melodies you already know... is
there someone out there who is a model for your playing, or are you creating
something you haven't heard before, or...?

"Phil Cunnimgham's 4 stroke reel.By slowing down the playback every little
ornament is revealed.I had to write it out though to have a clue to remembering

all those little notes." Hey, Bruce, post it! 8)

Ventura, how did you come across the tunes you're learning? "Cielito Lindo" and
"Tico Tico" I've heard of, but how did "Djobi Djoba" and "Bamboleo" and the
others come to your attention...?

"The Ben Hur Chariot Race"...? Do you hit tone clusters when the wheels come
off, and make liberal use of bellows shakes over the rocky stretches...? ;-)

Neil wrote, "I don't feel I know a tune unless I can jazz it up creatively
without getting lost! Anyone else feel the same?" Yes... it's one thing to play
it, and another to own it. For me right now there's a balance between playing a
tune so I could play it with a local group, and playing it so it sounds right
to me, the accents, the backup, the style of ornamentation, the drive. (Well,
maybe I don't "own" it so much as "rent" it... have an intimate understanding
of it for awhile, then later realize I don't know it at all.... ;-)

Craig you mention rhythm changes... how are you handling the bass side? Is it
bass note and triad together, chomping four-to-the-bar? Are you walking either,
or letting the guitar and bass handle it themselves, or...?


It's great to see what people are doing, where their interests are, thanks!

Regards,
John Dowdell


Donald B. Larson

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And I had a typo in my original post....
I should have said "etter means according to"... rather
than the Freudian slip, "accordion to." I've got
my fingers trained to type Accordion, I guess(-:
>
> Sonja.

Doug Cumming

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Hello Eric:

gat...@d-and-d.com wrote:

> Really-From: er...@webtv.net (Eric Root)


>
> I play that tune on guitar! One of my all-time favorite classical rags.
> Another really good one is Joplin's the Silver Swan. (lost,
> rediscovered fifty years later on a piano roll

For your information, MIDI files of the Silver Swan and Heliotrope Bouquet
are at this URL:

http://www.trachtman.org/ragtime/index.htm
http://www.primeshop.com/midlist2.htm#joplin

-- Doug Cumming

Dan Lavry

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Macromed5 <macr...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19990505103244...@ng-ca1.aol.com>...

> Dan, you mention putting arrangements behind melodies you already know...
is
> there someone out there who is a model for your playing, or are you
creating
> something you haven't heard before, or...?
>

There is no specific "someone" I model after. There are however a "whole
bunch of them". I listen to whatever I can, and hear what I like, and then
apply various aspects when it seems to belong (go with particular melody).
I don't write it down, just try a few things different ways. It is a form
of practice for the sake of improvement, for me. Of course I end up with
better results. The idea is "to sing it in your head" and transfer it to
the fingers.

Best

Dan Lavry



Doug Cumming

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Hello:

I posted a couple of MIDI sites for Joplin [& other composers'] rags. I thought
that I would also mention the excellent film on Scott Joplin [which is aired on
TV, periodically]:

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0076674 [Internet Movie Database -- "Scott Joplin"
(1977)]

Joplin is played by Billy Dee Williams and the "co-composer of Heliotrope" is
played by Clinton Davis. The composition of "HB" makes for quite a poignant
scene in the film. Art Carney plays Joplin's music-publisher. Watch the film if
it comes on TV; I can't believe that it was made 22 years ago! Incidentally, it
was in 1973 when the Newman/Redford vehicle, "The Sting," brought renewed
interest in Joplin's music [as performed by Marvin Hamlisch].

-- Doug Cumming

gat...@d-and-d.com wrote:

> Really-From: "Dan Lavry" <danl...@halcyon.com>


>
> and yes, as soon as I heard about "helitrop
> Bukey" (spelling is wrong I am sure), I jumped on it right away - today. It
> is a beautifull melody - I played it on the piano years ago. I do not trust
> my recollection totaly, but I seem to reacal that it was writen by someone
> other the Scott Joplin, that did not know how to write music, and that
> Joplin wrote it for him.

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Donald B. Larson

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Macromed5 wrote:
>
> Wow, cool thread... there's such a wide range that people here are working
> on.... ;-)
>
...

>
> Donald, where did you get the Scandinavian sheet music...?
>

I get it from the music library which the Directory of my
folk band maintains. Most of the old simple folk tunes are
out of copyright, so I can get photocopies from him to take
home and practice with. I also know that the director, Bill
Likens, has transcribed music from CD's and Tapes onto
paper for us to site read and to learn during band practice -- so
much of his material isn't even formally published.

Our folk band has a web site if you'd like to browse it to
learn of our activities. Find us at

http://home.att.net/~williamlikens/ngls/ngls.html

Cheers,
Don

>
> Regards,
> John Dowdell

Mike Maddux

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In article <01be96ee$7ea555a0$8ad4...@mypc.tdsnet.com>, "Bruce says...

>
>Hi Mark,
> I use Cool Edit also.It is just fantastic for learning a tune that is
>recorded.I used it to pick out Phil Cunnimgham's 4 stroke reel.By slowing

>down the playback every little ornament is revealed.I had to write it out
>though to have a clue to remembering all those little notes.Good Fun!
> LooseBruce
>
>
>> CoolEdit has been a godsend - almost like having a button box master
>> sitting in the living room giving lessons.

Please! More info on this "Cool Edit"! What is it, exactly, who makes it, and
where can I get it?

Thanks,

Mike
mike_...@rocketmail.com


Dan Lavry

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Doug Cumming <cumm...@netcom.ca> wrote in article
<37306651...@netcom.ca>...

>
> Hello Eric:
>
> gat...@d-and-d.com wrote:
>
> > Really-From: er...@webtv.net (Eric Root)
> >
> > I play that tune on guitar! One of my all-time favorite classical
rags.
> > Another really good one is Joplin's the Silver Swan. (lost,
> > rediscovered fifty years later on a piano roll
>
> For your information, MIDI files of the Silver Swan and Heliotrope
Bouquet
> are at this URL:
>
> http://www.trachtman.org/ragtime/index.htm
> http://www.primeshop.com/midlist2.htm#joplin
>
> -- Doug Cumming
>

When you open the www.primeshop above, you will find 2 version of the
Heiotrop B. They are one above the other. The first one is played with
expression - I would listen to it. The second one is like a player piano -
I would not bother with it.

Dan Lavry

Peter Thornton

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G'day

> Really-From: macr...@aol.com (Macromed5)

> Some reels, jigs, polkas I know, some I haven't heard of

> before... wonder what
> would happen if the didgeridoo came into a Dublin pub....

There's a very good chance of that happening in
mid-September - any recommendations?

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Doug Cumming

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Hello:

http://www.syntrillium.com/cooledit/index.html

-- Doug Cumming

gat...@d-and-d.com wrote:

> Really-From: Mike Maddux <mike_...@rocketmail.com>


>
> Please! More info on this "Cool Edit"! What is it, exactly, who makes it, and
> where can I get it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> mike_...@rocketmail.com

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Macromed5 wrote:
> Joey, howdy... accordion duo? Is Toronto ready? Sounds like a good weekend
> though. (You mention ska, and I'm not sure which you mean, but the older
> rocksteady and early Wailers stuff fits right in on a stradella bass...
> spooky.) I'm glad you're finding a way to get the box get the sound you want,
> and that people are responding to it.

Toronto is (surprisingly) ready. The warm weather is certainly helping.
People are responding to accordion music in ways we never expected,
that's for sure.

In Toronto (and I suspect many large cities in North America), a good
number of the rave kids have purchased bongos and African drums. They
bring them to raves, where they form drumming circles and play along to
the DJ's music. Krazy Karl and I wondered if the same was possible with
accordions, so we took our 'boxes to Sanctuary Vampire Sex Bar (the big
local goth hole). With the clarinet and bassoon registrations, the
accordion is a perfect accompaniment to Depeche Mode and The Cure, while
the bandoneon setting is great for rocking out to KMFDM or The Cult
(whom we have discovered, have at least five major singles with the same
D-C-A chord progression of minor variations thereof). They asked us to
hop on their stage -- usually reserved to the people with the most
interesting piercings, whereupon the DJ announced to the crowd: "You are
not hardcore if you don't have an accordion." I suspect that the
old-world-ness of the accordion appeals to Goths. We were received
warmly and were rewarded with many drinks. They're putting our photos on
their web page shortly.

Some homeless people for whom we played offered us a swig of their
cooking sherry, but we politely declined. Nice of them to offer, though.

The kids -- both the ravers and the Doc Marten punks/goths -- seem to
love our accordion duo the most...we seem to be doing the best in the
parts of Toronto that are similar to San Francisco's Haight and Mission
Areas or New York's East Village. It's probably a combination of us
going the non-traditional route with our repertoire and their having
heard and fallen in love with They Might Be Giants. The fact that my
hair is currently dyed purple and Karl wears this hat with two huge
white horns on the side lends to our credibility (strange but true).

We're practicing some new ska (the punk-ish stuff that the SoCal bands
are making these days) as well as some old stuff, including Desmond
Dekker and of course, the Wailers' "Simmer Down". Without a doubt, the
squeezebox is a great ska instrument, and since there's a large rock
steady Vespa contingent here in town, I think it'll go over well. We're
also looking at some old blues standards, including "Minnie the
Moocher".

We've even won converts -- more than a few people have already asked us
where they can get accordions and busker's licenses. A guy offered to
sell us his two Bellini accordions (we're going to give 'em a look-see).
An audience member turned out to have a couple of Director questions,
which I was able to answer, a long with a business card (job references
thanks to the accordion -- whoo-hoo!). I even serenaded my date last night.

It's not even the end of my first week, but if I'd known squeezeboxing
was this much fun, I'd have started years ago!

--
___________________________________________________________
Joey deVilla, Master of Kode Fu, datapanik software systems

NEB

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> On a much less exalted - but more topical - note : the Padstow Mayday
> Song.
>
> One of these years i am going to learn it "before" Mayday. The mood that
> those guys create (helped by the drums and drink i guess) make me dust
off
> my accordian every time i go down.
>
> Ken Wilson Hampshire. UK

There comes a point where if you drink enough, the practising becomes
entirely unnecessary!

And very few people _practise_ the drums enough, sober or not....

Neil

NEB

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> I'm working out the chords and basses for "Toss the Feathers #1", and
> beginning to memorize "The Maids of Tulla", a beautiful old reel.
> CoolEdit has been a godsend - almost like having a button box master
> sitting in the living room giving lessons.
>
> Mark Johnson
> B/C button box

Does CoolEdit exist for the Mac? Or something similar? I have a weird
collection of freebie utilities that can be cobbled together to slow stuff
down, but it's such a "sausage machine" concoction that I never bother.

NEB

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> > ... wonder what
> > would happen if the didgeridoo came into a Dublin pub....
>
> There's a very good chance of that happening in
> mid-September - any recommendations?

It happens once in a while at our local session in O'Sheas in Bangor, North
Wales. I initially thought "great- time to do 'Diarmhud's March' from
Sharon Shannon's Each Little Thing album". Only it wasn't in E like Steve
Cooney's (and a few others I've heard), but Ab!

The trouble with Didg players is that they tend to be accompanied into the
pub by several African drum and tom-tom players. In my experience the
result is worse than a bunch of beginner bodhran players!

Don't get me wrong, I've played an Irish session with a full samba band
before now (!!) but I do hate players (of any level of experience) who seem
incapable of listening and reacting to what goes on around them.

Paul & Margaret Hardy

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Macromed5 wrote in message <19990504104635...@ng-cj1.aol.com>...

>What pieces are you practicing this week? Inquiring minds wish to know.


An eclectic mix of things on my English concertina(s):

Nellie the Elephant
The Redhaired Boy
The Blackthorn Stick
Caitlin Triall
Sailors Hornpipe
The Irish Washerwoman
Miss Rowan Davies
South Winds
Planxty Irwin
Speed the Plough
Jerusalem
Lili Burlero
Bridge over troubled waters
Whip jamboree
Horses Bransle
Drowsy Maggie (a bit hard for me)

and a few others.

Paul Hardy (at home) pa...@hardy.demon.co.uk


or...@juno.com

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Mostly morris tunes since we have an upcoming Ale in St. Louis:

Old Molly Oxford
Trunkles
Queen's Delight
Sheriff's Ride
Sweet Jenny Jones
Cuckoo's nest
The Rose
Vandals of Hammerwich
Beaux of London City
South Australia
Bonny Green Garters
General Monk's March

Plus putting a little polish on the tunes I already know.

Orest
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Hello:

I've not tried *either* CoolEdit or SlowTune [see below]; however, I had them
*both* bookmarked. SlowTune is for Mac:

http://www.mhs.mendocino.k12.ca.us/MenComNet/Business/Retail/Larknet/SlowTune

-- Doug Cumming

NEB wrote:

> Does CoolEdit exist for the Mac? Or something similar? I have a weird
> collection of freebie utilities that can be cobbled together to slow stuff
> down, but it's such a "sausage machine" concoction that I never bother.
>
> Neil

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Michael Reid

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On 5 May 1999 08:19:11 -0700, Mike Maddux <mike_...@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

>Please! More info on this "Cool Edit"! What is it, exactly, who makes it, and
>where can I get it?

There's another shareware program, "Musician's CD Player for
Windowss," that also slows down recordings. A few months ago I
compared a trial version of it to Cool Edit. While Cool Edit has all
kinds of exotic sound-editing features, I found its manual and
interface dense and confusing.

Musician's CD Player basically does one thing -- allow you to slow
down CDs. Its use is straightforward. It also allows you to do so in
real time, if you have enough computing power. As far as I could tell,
Cool Edit always requires a processing step first before you get the
slow version.

Musician's CD Player can be found at

http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-11396/muscdpl.htm

Michael Reid
Boulder, Colorado

Joseph Kesselman, yclept Keshlam

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I have to admit I'm _not_ practicing this week, except for a chorus
rehearsal. Grrrf. Need to get back onto a schedule...

------------------------------------------------------
Joe Kesselman, http://www.lovesong.com/people/keshlam/
Performing May 8th at Walkabout Clearwater: VIVA QUETZAL!
http://www.lovesong.com/walkabout/coffeehouse.html

JMMICHAEL

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Where are all the anglo players?

I'm playing a bunch of jigs and reels and trying to get my fingers to learn to
put in ornaments, particularly on pieces I've already learned.Nothing better
than playing the same line of music with and without ornament 30 times if you
want to clear out a house..

Over the Moor to Maggie
Father Kelly's
The Chicago
The rights of man
Rakes of Kildare

Anyone else working on basic Irish tunes on an anglo?

jona...@my-dejanews.com

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Here's my one-hour (minimum) daily
practice schedule:

Technique:
Brahms 51 exercises (10 min),
Beringer Exercises (10 min), Czerny
40 Daily Exercises (10 min), Scales
or Arpeggios (10 min).

Repetoire:
Bach 2 part inventions (10 min)....I'm
working on # 10 &15 right now... I'm
also working on a suite of short
pieces called "Diversions" by Richard
Rodney Bennett (10 min).

If there's time for goofin' around
(which should be about 10 minutes
of every practice session), I'm
improvising on "Nobody Else But
Me" and "Round Midnight" by
Thelonius Monk.

I find that having a clock in front of
your face while practicing keeps me
on track.

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Macromed5

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Joey deVilla wrote on May 5, in part:

> we took our 'boxes to Sanctuary Vampire Sex Bar (the big
> local goth hole)... They asked us to hop on their stage -- usually

> reserved to the people with the most interesting piercings,
> whereupon the DJ announced to the crowd: "You are not
> hardcore if you don't have an accordion."

Well, I'm glad that's settled, then. For a moment I was worried about not being
hardcore enough.... ;-)

Great story, thanks. Minnie the Moocher should work well, 'specially with the
two-part hi-de-hi-de-ho's. I like how you're finding a way that the instrument
fits, into a place where it really hasn't fit before.

(btw, thanks to all for the listings of tunes... interesting to see the mixes!)

Regards,
John Dowdell

Macromed5

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Pete quote'n'wrote:
> > ...wonder what would happen if the didgeridoo came into a Dublin pub....

>
> There's a very good chance of that happening in
> mid-September - any recommendations?

I guess "speak softly" would be the other part, then...? ;-)

jd

Mike Maddux

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In article <37331d53...@news.concentric.net>,
SeeMyRea...@Signature.Com says...

Michael,

Thanks for the tip. I will check it out. I tried to reply to you via email but
couldn't figure out how to do it.

Do you know if Musician's CD Player allows you to replay short passages over and
over, easily?

Mike


Bruce Gerow

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Here ias the address for the makers of Cool Edit:

Syntrillium Software Corporation
P.O. Box 60274
Phoenix, AZ 85082-0274
USA

When I downloaded it from the web you could use any two funstions at a time
without registering.I have found that this is fine for slowing down a CD
and learning tunes.You can also use tapes.You have to play the info into
your computer and make it into a wave file.It is easy to work with after
that.I do not attempt to load an entire tune with my old 486 33MHZ
comoputer but a phrase or two is easy to dissect.
Well I just got off my lazy butt and found the web site.Here it is:
http://www.syntrillium.com

Who could ask for anything more?
LooseBruce

> Please! More info on this "Cool Edit"! What is it, exactly, who makes
it, and
> where can I get it?
>

> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> mike_...@rocketmail.com
>
>

Bruce Gerow

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I don't really feel I should post the notation to Phils arrangement without
permission.I will if permission is granted.I think his sister frequents
this list from time to time.If someone is interested then try to find
her.My notation is strictly the RH and the timing is rough but most of the
notes are there (and there are a LOT of them).
LooseBruce

>
> "Phil Cunnimgham's 4 stroke reel.By slowing down the playback every
little
> ornament is revealed.I had to write it out though to have a clue to
remembering

Doug Cumming

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Hello:

I saved the following message (9 Jan./99), from Randy Krichbaum, which deals
with another program which works [in a similar way?] to Cool Edit. Here is
Randy's message:

Subject:
SML: Re: Program to play wav files at slow speeds
Date:
Sat, 09 Jan 1999 18:22:21 GMT

Really-From: "Randy Krichbaum" <rkric...@csi.com>

There are several programs that will do that. One is called "Musician's CD
player" and is available at www.ronimusic.com It's basically designed to
convert a CD track to a .WAV file, and then slow it down, or speed it up.

A more powerful solution is Cool Edit, which is available at
www.syntrillium.com It takes a .WAV file and can modify it in a number of
different ways (echo, reverb, chorus), in addition to slowing it down. The
Lite version is about the same price as "Musician's CD Player" I think.

Both are shareware so you can try them out and see which one you like best.

Hope that helps,

Randy Krichbaum

David Batty wrote in message ...
>I read on here that someone else had written a program which allows you
>to load in a .wav file and play the music back at a slower speed without
>altering the pitch. Can anyone remind me where the program/s can be
>found on the internet.

gat...@d-and-d.com wrote:

> Really-From: "Bruce Gerow" <bge...@ny.tds.net>
>
> When I downloaded it [Cool Edit] from the web you could use any two funstions


> at a time
> without registering.I have found that this is fine for slowing down a CD
> and learning tunes.You can also use tapes.You have to play the info into
> your computer and make it into a wave file.It is easy to work with after
> that.I do not attempt to load an entire tune with my old 486 33MHZ
> comoputer but a phrase or two is easy to dissect.
> Well I just got off my lazy butt and found the web site.Here it is:
> http://www.syntrillium.com
>
> Who could ask for anything more?
> LooseBruce

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In article <01be97df$16ea2f20$b0d4...@mypc.tdsnet.com>, "Bruce says...

>
>Here ias the address for the makers of Cool Edit:
>
>Syntrillium Software Corporation
> P.O. Box 60274
> Phoenix, AZ 85082-0274
> USA
>
>When I downloaded it from the web you could use any two funstions at a time

>without registering.I have found that this is fine for slowing down a CD
>and learning tunes.You can also use tapes.You have to play the info into
>your computer and make it into a wave file.It is easy to work with after
>that.I do not attempt to load an entire tune with my old 486 33MHZ
>comoputer but a phrase or two is easy to dissect.
> Well I just got off my lazy butt and found the web site.Here it is:
>http://www.syntrillium.com
>
>Who could ask for anything more?
> LooseBruce
>

Thanks, Bruce

Mike


Michael Berenstein

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Macromed5 wrote:

>
> Great story, thanks. Minnie the Moocher should work well,

By the way, where do I find Minnie the Moocher music?
Thanks.
PS.
I'm working my way through Viva Seguin, learning a lot of tricks as I go. Those
two row diatonics are quite capable, I even tried to play some russian tunes in
minor, which not long ago I thought of being impossible to play on the G/C. Now I
start to wander whether I should drop chromatic in favour of two/half row G/C.


or...@juno.com

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On Thu, 06 May 1999 12:18:15 -0700 gat...@d-and-d.com writes:
>Really-From: Michael Berenstein <mi...@pixar.com>

>By the way, where do I find Minnie the Moocher music?
>Thanks.
>PS.
>I'm working my way through Viva Seguin, learning a lot of tricks as I
>go. Those
>two row diatonics are quite capable, I even tried to play some russian
>tunes in
>minor, which not long ago I thought of being impossible to play on the
>G/C. Now I
>start to wander whether I should drop chromatic in favour of two/half
>row G/C.

Misha,

My new custom-built 2-1/2 row BB will be arriving shortly (3 week
countdown) and thats a lot of the reason I decided to buy it. I want to
use it for Eastern European style minor/modal tunes. I think it will
work quite well. I have transcribed and arranged some Rumanian Calusari
music for 2-1/2 row. It switches modes twice in the middle of the tune.
My friend plays it on his 2-1/2 row and it sounds great. Very handy to
have a stop to remove the thirds from the bass chords for playing this
type of music.

Orest
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<< jona...@my-dejanews.com
Date: Thu, May 6, 1999 10:41
Message-id: <7gs9mq$uk8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
>>

wrote:

<< Here's my one-hour (minimum) daily
practice schedule:

Technique:Brahms 51 exercises (10 min),Beringer Exercises (10 min), Czerny40

Daily Exercises (10 min), Scalesor Arpeggios (10 min).

Repetoire:Bach 2 part inventions (10 min)....I'mworking on # 10 &15 right
now... I'malso working on a suite of shortpieces called "Diversions" by
RichardRodney Bennett (10 min).

If there's time for goofin' around(which should be about 10 minutesof every
practice session), I'mimprovising on "Nobody Else ButMe" and "Round Midnight"

byThelonius Monk.
>>


<< I find that having a clock in front ofyour face while practicing keeps me on
track. >>

Of course the above applies to piano, and not accordion, since that is your
direction presently, correct?

I avoid clock watching and devote complete concentration on the material at
hand. If I have a schedule to keep then I used a timer to remind me. My
practice time runs at three hours when I'm working at it, and the time passes
fast.

Steve Navoyosky






Doug Cumming

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Hello:

This song, also known as the "Hi di Ho Song," was of course, Cab Calloway's
signature-tune (recorded 1931) and is famous for its use in the
Belushi/Aykroyd film *The Blues Brothers* in which Calloway made a guest
appearance:

http://home.earthlink.net/~snark/feast/calloway.html
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0080455

Calloway, no doubt, also sang this song in several films:

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Calloway,+Cab, including the 1932 film "Minnie the
Moocher".

The song was covered, in 1986, by the, now defunct Klezmer band, "The
Klezmorim" on their album "Jazz Babies of the Ukraine," however this is
*not* Klezmer music:

http://www.rounder.com/rounder/catalog/bylabel/fly/465/465.html

The music is, almost certainly, available in some piano/vocal anthology. The
song is controlled, now, by EMI Music:

http://www.ascap.com/ace/title/detail.cgi?tcode=430067377

-- Doug Cumming

or...@juno.com wrote:

> On Thu, 06 May 1999 12:18:15 -0700 gat...@d-and-d.com writes:
> >Really-From: Michael Berenstein <mi...@pixar.com>
>
> >By the way, where do I find Minnie the Moocher music?
> >Thanks.

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In article <37308521...@datapanik.com>, Joey deVilla
<go...@datapanik.com> wrote:

>In Toronto (and I suspect many large cities in North America), a good
>number of the rave kids have purchased bongos and African drums. They
>bring them to raves, where they form drumming circles and play along to
>the DJ's music. Krazy Karl and I wondered if the same was possible with
>accordions, so we took our 'boxes to Sanctuary Vampire Sex Bar (the big
>local goth hole). With the clarinet and bassoon registrations, the
>accordion is a perfect accompaniment to Depeche Mode and The Cure, while
>the bandoneon setting is great for rocking out to KMFDM or The Cult
>(whom we have discovered, have at least five major singles with the same

>D-C-A chord progression of minor variations thereof). They asked us to


>hop on their stage -- usually reserved to the people with the most
>interesting piercings, whereupon the DJ announced to the crowd: "You are

>not hardcore if you don't have an accordion." I suspect that the
>old-world-ness of the accordion appeals to Goths. We were received
>warmly and were rewarded with many drinks. They're putting our photos on
>their web page shortly.

<excellent stories about the urban youth resurgence of the accordion snipped>

Ladies and gentlemen, I submit this post as proof of my theory that the
accordion is making a comeback with the younger crowd in non-traditional
circles, Magnante or no Magnante.

Don't get me wrong-I love Charles Magnante. In fact, I once took a swing
at playing along with a little INXS.

--
-Toby Hanson
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-Dave Niehaus

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Michael Berenstein

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> > I'm working my way through Viva Seguin, learning a lot of tricks as I go.
>
> Viva Sequin is great, but I always want to sing "Do Re Mi" after... I got
> exposed to Flaco through Ry Cooder's Chicken Skin Revue, and now the two tunes
> are linked in my mind.

I'm not sure I know what do you refer to.

>
>
> But this is the only conjunto tune I recall seeing in the thread...? Where are
> the tango players, the musetteers, where are the zydeco players? Isn't anyone
> in the group here playing music from the Balkans...?

Let's see: conjunto is played by mexicans, they are poor and don't have computers.
Same with Zydeco. Musetteers are living in France, Tangoers are all in Brazil and
don't speak English, balkan immigrants try to become americans and play keyboards.

Hmm, I started it as a joke,and then thought to myself: "Say, it DOES look like
it".
As for the people well off, with expencive instruments and powerful computers - I
guess they like jazz, irish, klezmer and Bach inventions.


Macromed5

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> By the way, where do I find Minnie the Moocher music?

I'm not sure... I learned it from listening to the Betty Boop cartoon over and
over.... ;-)


> Technique:Brahms 51 exercises (10 min)

Could you tell me more about this, please? What's the actual title, and what do
you find them useful in achieving...? Thanks.


> Repetoire:Bach 2 part inventions (10 min)....I'mworking on
> # 10 &15 right now...

I haven't gotten to #15 in Bm yet, but I remember your comments on its
left-hand ornamentation. I hope to start working with it in early June.

#10 in G is nice on the accordion, isn't it? The piano players seem to play it
fast, but it's got a lot of spunk when individual notes and phrases can sing on
the reeds. I particularly like the center section where the two hands talk back
and forth, and the closing sequence in Em. I'm still having trouble with that
two-measure lefthand trill on low C, though... how does that part work for you?

(I'm also having a hard time memorizing the Cm and Eb inventions... when I'm
fresh I can pretty much play through without peeking, but then in the evenings
the phrases mesh together and I lose my place. I'm trying to pre-hear each
voice now before playing, and that seems to help... also doing a lot more with
starting to play from arbitrary measures to break the rote learning. Some come
easier than others, but these two are hard for me to memorize. Anyone have
tips?)


> I'm working my way through Viva Seguin, learning a lot of tricks as I go.

Viva Sequin is great, but I always want to sing "Do Re Mi" after... I got
exposed to Flaco through Ry Cooder's Chicken Skin Revue, and now the two tunes
are linked in my mind.

But this is the only conjunto tune I recall seeing in the thread...? Where are
the tango players, the musetteers, where are the zydeco players? Isn't anyone
in the group here playing music from the Balkans...?

Regards,
John Dowdell

Gary Dahl

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just alittle s..t k....n' music! :-)

http://www.accordions.com/garydahl
Gary Dahl
Puyallup, Wa. USA

http://users.aol.com/accrdnmn/
(a site to hear a few recordings...
scroll down to the polka listing first then click on the eiffel tower)


Andrew Purdam

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On 6 May 1999 16:44:13 GMT, "Bruce Gerow" <bge...@ny.tds.net> wrote:

> LooseBruce

>> "Phil Cunnimgham's 4 stroke reel.By slowing down the playback every
>little
>> ornament is revealed.I had to write it out though to have a clue to
>remembering
>> all those little notes." Hey, Bruce, post it! 8)

Amazing! Because I love the tune, and want to learn how to play it, I
did the very same thing (using CoolEdit - which is well worth
registering), and notating onto Noteworthy Composer. Like Bruce,
though, I feel great reticence in "letting it out", as Phil Cunningham
probably gets his food on the table by creating such wonderful pieces
of work. Waddya say? Ditto, ditto? :-)

Andrew

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On Thu, 06 May 1999 22:20:28 +0000 "chris moran" <cmo...@earthlink.net>
writes:
>in Los Angeles, who accompanied the singer and musicians with his
>eerie,
>outer-space strains of Mongolian/Tuvan split-octave throat singing.
>Talk
>about *hip*
>
>--chris moran

Oh yeah, Tuvan throat singing. Great Stuff!! I love how the harmonics
form the melody.

Orest
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Moshe Braner

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Macromed5 (macr...@aol.com) wrote:
: Isn't anyone in the group here playing music from the Balkans...?

I've been concentrating on Balkan music (playing the PA),
along with other Eastern European, Klezmer, and old French tunes.
Being a beginner, musette is hard for me, but I do try a bit of that.

It's taken some time but I'm getting the feel for those prime
numbers: 5/8, 7/8, 9/8, 11/8 rhythms. (OK, 9 is not prime.)
I wonder why they are limited to the Balkans, and avoided even in
Klezmer?

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gary blair

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Message text written by "Bruce Gerow"

>I don't really feel I should post the notation to Phils arrangement
without
permission.I will if permission is granted.I think his sister frequents
this list from time to time.If someone is interested then try to find
her.My notation is strictly the RH and the timing is rough but most of the
notes are there (and there are a LOT of them).
LooseBruce<>

I don't think it would be a good idea. I am sure Phil has published this
tune in the ''cunningham collection''. I learned it from his record, prior
to the sheet music being available.
Regards
Gary Blair (scotland)

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On 7 May 1999 14:36:14 GMT gat...@d-and-d.com writes:
>Really-From: mbr...@gnu.uvm.edu (Moshe Braner)

>
>Macromed5 (macr...@aol.com) wrote:
>: Isn't anyone in the group here playing music from the Balkans...?
>
>I've been concentrating on Balkan music (playing the PA),
>along with other Eastern European, Klezmer, and old French tunes.
>Being a beginner, musette is hard for me, but I do try a bit of that.
>
>It's taken some time but I'm getting the feel for those prime
>numbers: 5/8, 7/8, 9/8, 11/8 rhythms. (OK, 9 is not prime.)
>I wonder why they are limited to the Balkans, and avoided even in
>Klezmer?

I think you will find that these asymetrical rhythms come from Turkic
influence. The Balkans were under Ottoman rule for about 500 years and
there was a lot of cross-pollination. The 5 rhythms are also found in
Greek and Ukrainian music. Greeks have had a lot of turkic influence
over the years but its unclear whether this is the source of the 5 times
in their music which takes 2 distinct forms (3+2 and 2+3). In Ukraine,
there was also turkic/tatar influence over a long period of time but the
5 rhythms appear to be mostly found for short phrases in otherwise
arhythmic music (something like irish airs). These are pieces where the
time signature changes every measure or two (in my opinion, these would
be better transcribed without a time signature).

Orest
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In article <19990507001851...@ng-fw1.aol.com>,
macr...@aol.com (Macromed5) wrote:

>Isn't anyone
>in the group here playing music from the Balkans...?

I played "Blue Eyes Cryin' In The Rain" today, and that's originally from
the Balkans. Does that count? :)

Sully5154

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>Isn't anyone
>in the group here playing music from the Balkans...?

Does the MelBay Balkan book count?

Tom Sullivan

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