Friends S6-12 (Spoilers) - the Hyett Review
Paul Hyett
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TOW the Joke
Slightly better than last week, though somewhat farcical in places.
Back to the usual 3 storylines this week.
Firstly, the Joke.
Ross gets a joke published in Playboy, but Chandler claims he invented
it. This leads to considerable argument, dragging the others in too.
Chandler continues to brood over this joke to Monica, but she has her
own obsession to deal with.
Finally, they ask Monica to arbitrate over whose joke it is, and they
each explain how they invented it, trying to coerce her into picking
them - Chandler even (light-heartedly) saying 'I'm your only chance of
having a baby'.
They don't like what Monica tells them though - that the joke sucks &
is
offensive. They then both DENY inventing it!
Second story - Joey's money problems.
Chandler wants to watch a cable show on Joey's TV, but he hasn't been
able to pay his bills, and both that and is phone have been cut off.
Joey is too proud to take a loan from Chandler though.
Later, Gunther offers Joey a job in Central Perk, which he is reluctant
to take, and then tries to conceal from the gang.
On his second day, he gets an audition, but cannot attend it, since
Gunther won't cover for him. Joey is determined to go though, and
closes CP for the duration.
This gets him fired, AND he also fails the audition, but Rachel
(unwitting) uses Gunther's crush on her to get Joey his job back.
The final storyline was the girl's weird dating question.
The girls are reading Ross's Playboy and Monica asks Rachel & Phoebe if
they HAD to pick one of the others to date, which would it be?
Rachel wisely refuses to answer, but Phoebe says it would be Rachel,
causing Monica to obsess about why!
Later on, in bed, C&M are brooding about their respective problems,
completely unaware of the others obsessions.
The next day, Monica challenges Phoebe as to why she'd prefer Rachel to
her. She reluctantly admits that she thinks Monica would be 'high
maintenance', and that Rachel is more easy-going. This gets twisted
into Rachel thinking that Phoebe means she is a pushover, so she storms
out.
When they come back, they accuse Phoebe of being flaky, which, to their
surprise, she readily admits.
Later on, in CP, Monica gets Chandler to try and persuade them she is
not high-maintenance, but his speech has clearly been written by
Monica, and Rachel calls his bluff. He then upsets Monica by telling
her she IS a little high-maintenance, but quickly makes up for it for
telling her that is one of the things he loves about her.
In the epilogue, the guys are asked the 'who would you date' question,
which R&J avoid, but C says Joey, presumably opening up a new can of
worms!
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Comments :
ISTM that the Geller obsessive trait is being overplayed in recent
episodes.
Unlike most of the previous seasons, there seems no underlying theme to
the show, leaving it somewhat adrift and short on strong stories.
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Tina
whiskers on his/her face and miaowed this little lot at a statue...
>: ISTM that the Geller obsessive trait is being overplayed in recent
>: episodes.
>:
>: Unlike most of the previous seasons, there seems no underlying theme to
>: the show, leaving it somewhat adrift and short on strong stories.
And Paul finally hits on the whole theme of S6! :)
The next three episodes are great, IMHO - if nothing else, watch the
next two episodes to see how a celebrity guest spot *should* be done.
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nothing the USA doesn;t know already
but I value my life
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Tina <rachel...@NOSPAMwriteme.com> wrote in message
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> Hellooooo!!! After getting drunk in Vegas, Paul Hyett doodled cat
> whiskers on his/her face and miaowed this little lot at a statue...
>
> >: ISTM that the Geller obsessive trait is being overplayed in recent
> >: episodes.
> >:
> >: Unlike most of the previous seasons, there seems no underlying theme to
> >: the show, leaving it somewhat adrift and short on strong stories.
>
> And Paul finally hits on the whole theme of S6! :)
>
> The next three episodes are great, IMHO - if nothing else, watch the
> next two episodes to see how a celebrity guest spot *should* be done.
> --
I totally aggree
TOW Rachels' sister
TOW Chandler can;t cry
TO that could've been
TO that coud've been part 2
TOW the unagi
these all sound really really good.. I am paticulary looking forward to the
"could've beens" Rachel back with Barry and Ross back with Carol.. talk
about wierd.. must be funny !!
h
Tennant Stuart
wrote:
> SLIGHT SPOILER
> nothing the USA doesn;t know already
> but I value my life
It's all very well saying this Helena - but given the subject line
"S6-12 (Spoilers)" people won't expect spoilers for 613 onwards...
Tennant
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Tennant Stuart
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> TOW the Joke
> Slightly better than last week, though somewhat farcical in places.
IYDMMSS Paul, are you ever going to actually ENJOY an episode? I was
laughing all the way through this, especially at the three women.
> Finally, they ask Monica to arbitrate over whose joke it is, and they
> each explain how they invented it, trying to coerce her into picking
> them - Chandler even (light-heartedly) saying 'I'm your only chance of
> having a baby'.
This should put to rest all those who say Chandler would freak at a baby.
> Later on, in bed, C&M are brooding about their respective problems,
> completely unaware of the others obsessions.
This isn't true: although they start off talking about their own problems,
they then include each other as well.
> ISTM that the Geller obsessive trait is being overplayed in recent
> episodes.
You are entitled to seem to you what you please Paul, but ISTM that Ross was
no worse than Chandler, and Monica no worse than Rachel.
> Unlike most of the previous seasons, there seems no underlying theme to
> the show, leaving it somewhat adrift and short on strong stories.
But there was! Split into groups of 1/2/3, Joey had a problem, Chandler &
Ross had a problem, and the women had a problem. They were all stuck until
each was helped out by someone from one of the other groups.
**********************************
It was interesting that Rachel complained about being a pushover, when
actually she always gets her own way - except with Phoebe who dominates
everybody. This suggests a pecking order as follows...
Phoebe
Rachel
Monica
Chandler
Joey
Ross
..except that Ross is the only one who can tell Phoebe what to do
sometimes, so maybe the names should be in a circle...
Activia
Tennant Stuart wrote:
Me too! I really enjoyed this episode!
>
> > Finally, they ask Monica to arbitrate over whose joke it is, and they
> > each explain how they invented it, trying to coerce her into picking
> > them - Chandler even (light-heartedly) saying 'I'm your only chance of
> > having a baby'.
>
> This should put to rest all those who say Chandler would freak at a baby.
>
This was what I was saying in another thread but got shot down.
>
> > Later on, in bed, C&M are brooding about their respective problems,
> > completely unaware of the others obsessions.
>
> This isn't true: although they start off talking about their own problems,
> they then include each other as well.
>
yep
>
> > ISTM that the Geller obsessive trait is being overplayed in recent
> > episodes.
>
> You are entitled to seem to you what you please Paul, but ISTM that Ross was
> no worse than Chandler, and Monica no worse than Rachel.
>
> > Unlike most of the previous seasons, there seems no underlying theme to
> > the show, leaving it somewhat adrift and short on strong stories.
>
> But there was! Split into groups of 1/2/3, Joey had a problem, Chandler &
> Ross had a problem, and the women had a problem. They were all stuck until
> each was helped out by someone from one of the other groups.
>
and your missing a vital part...I think the speach Chandler gave to Monica was
the sweetest ever! I think it shows a lot of things about their relationship :o)
>
> **********************************
>
> It was interesting that Rachel complained about being a pushover, when
> actually she always gets her own way - except with Phoebe who dominates
> everybody. This suggests a pecking order as follows...
>
> Phoebe
> Rachel
> Monica
> Chandler
> Joey
> Ross
>
> ..except that Ross is the only one who can tell Phoebe what to do
> sometimes, so maybe the names should be in a circle...
>
you think Joey dominates Ross?
~Act
Helena
> wrote:
>
> > SLIGHT SPOILER
> > nothing the USA doesn;t know already
> > but I value my life
>
> It's all very well saying this Helena - but given the subject line
> "S6-12 (Spoilers)" people won't expect spoilers for 613 onwards...
>
>
"oops" my brain defies logic...
my argument = I referred to the USA.. as In I referred to our dear buddies
over the pond.. so the USA knows a lot more than us little old Brits..
therefore I have warned people...
Helena
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Activia <act...@snet.net> wrote in message
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true.. I just loved the bit when he romantically and in that Perry-sort-of
way
(that would make sense *lol*) "I like maintaining you"
it was reallly really sweet.. C has matured so much.. and although he
is not so funny as he used to be.. they needed to add realism.. people do
have to mature....and relationships do mature. I'm always going to like
Monica as a friends because she is just so obsessive like me.. and I'm
always going to Like Chandler cos he just is so sweet.. and I guess I was
just pleased my two fave characters got together. now we just gotta get
Joey a permanent relationship.. which does not seem to be happening yet..
Writes: Go with Joey !!! "he's your pal, he';s your buddy. Where is
everyone ? they're hanging out with Joey"
Tennant Stuart
> Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > This should put to rest all those who say Chandler would freak
> > at a baby.
> This was what I was saying in another thread but got shot down.
Not by me, Activia :)
> and your missing a vital part...I think the speach Chandler gave to Monica
> was the sweetest ever! I think it shows a lot of things about their
> relationship
> :o)
He was sweet, but Chandler has done this sort of thing before - confronted
Monica's objections & turned them around at her, rather than denying her.
> > **********************************
> > It was interesting that Rachel complained about being a pushover, when
> > actually she always gets her own way - except with Phoebe who dominates
> > everybody. This suggests a pecking order as follows...
> > Phoebe
> > Rachel
> > Monica
> > Chandler
> > Joey
> > Ross
> > ..except that Ross is the only one who can tell Phoebe what to do
> > sometimes, so maybe the names should be in a circle...
> you think Joey dominates Ross?
Oh yes - at least the *real* Joey does, not "Slow Joey": you only have to
look at the way Ross either goes running to Joey for advice; or he regrets
failing to do so after he's come badly unstuck, eg the start of 316.
Paul Hyett
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>> Slightly better than last week, though somewhat farcical in places.
>
>IYDMMSS
That took a bit of working out!
> Paul, are you ever going to actually ENJOY an episode? I was
>laughing all the way through this, especially at the three women.
Perhaps I've just been spoiler by the consistent quality of other
seasons?
>
>This should put to rest all those who say Chandler would freak at a baby.
>
Talking about it is one thing - but if Monica should actually get
pregnant... ! :)
Activia
Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > Tennant Stuart wrote:
>
> > > This should put to rest all those who say Chandler would freak
> > > at a baby.
>
> > This was what I was saying in another thread but got shot down.
>
> Not by me, Activia :)
>
:o)
>
>
> > and your missing a vital part...I think the speach Chandler gave to Monica
> > was the sweetest ever! I think it shows a lot of things about their
> > relationship
> > :o)
>
> He was sweet, but Chandler has done this sort of thing before - confronted
> Monica's objections & turned them around at her, rather than denying her.
yes and that he still can do it shows that their moving in together hasnt badly
affected their relationship.
>
>
> > > **********************************
>
> > > It was interesting that Rachel complained about being a pushover, when
> > > actually she always gets her own way - except with Phoebe who dominates
> > > everybody. This suggests a pecking order as follows...
>
> > > Phoebe
> > > Rachel
> > > Monica
> > > Chandler
> > > Joey
> > > Ross
>
> > > ..except that Ross is the only one who can tell Phoebe what to do
> > > sometimes, so maybe the names should be in a circle...
>
> > you think Joey dominates Ross?
>
> Oh yes - at least the *real* Joey does, not "Slow Joey": you only have to
> look at the way Ross either goes running to Joey for advice; or he regrets
> failing to do so after he's come badly unstuck, eg the start of 316.
ahh I see what your saying..
Joey might not be book smart but sometimes he does have some common sense.
Ross is all book smart.
~Act
Activia
Paul Hyett wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
> >In article <lhGbmEAY...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
> >> TOW the Joke
> >> Slightly better than last week, though somewhat farcical in places.
> >
> >IYDMMSS
>
> That took a bit of working out!
>
> > Paul, are you ever going to actually ENJOY an episode? I was
> >laughing all the way through this, especially at the three women.
>
> Perhaps I've just been spoiler by the consistent quality of other
> seasons?
> >
> >This should put to rest all those who say Chandler would freak at a baby.
> >
> Talking about it is one thing - but if Monica should actually get
> pregnant... ! :)
I dont think he'd actually freak out that much at all if they were married at
the time.
~Act
Activia
Helena wrote:
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> C+M forever and ever !!!
> M.G. 4 C.B.
>
> Activia <act...@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:38E401DF...@snet.net...
> >
> >
> > Tennant Stuart wrote:
> >
> > > IYDMMSS Paul, are you ever going to actually ENJOY an episode? I was
> > > laughing all the way through this, especially at the three women.
> > >
> >
> > Me too! I really enjoyed this episode!
> >
> > >
> > > > Finally, they ask Monica to arbitrate over whose joke it is, and they
> > > > each explain how they invented it, trying to coerce her into picking
> > > > them - Chandler even (light-heartedly) saying 'I'm your only chance of
> > > > having a baby'.
> > >
> > > This should put to rest all those who say Chandler would freak at a
> baby.
> > >
> >
> > This was what I was saying in another thread but got shot down.
> >
> > >
> > > > Later on, in bed, C&M are brooding about their respective problems,
> > > > completely unaware of the others obsessions.
> > >
> > > This isn't true: although they start off talking about their own
> problems,
> > > they then include each other as well.
> > >
> >
> > yep
> >
> > >
> > > > ISTM that the Geller obsessive trait is being overplayed in recent
> > > > episodes.
> > >
> > > You are entitled to seem to you what you please Paul, but ISTM that Ross
> was
> > > no worse than Chandler, and Monica no worse than Rachel.
> > >
> > > > Unlike most of the previous seasons, there seems no underlying theme
> to
> > > > the show, leaving it somewhat adrift and short on strong stories.
> > >
> > > But there was! Split into groups of 1/2/3, Joey had a problem, Chandler
> &
> > > Ross had a problem, and the women had a problem. They were all stuck
> until
> > > each was helped out by someone from one of the other groups.
> > >
> >
> > and your missing a vital part...I think the speach Chandler gave to Monica
> was
> > the sweetest ever! I think it shows a lot of things about their
> relationship :o)
>
> true.. I just loved the bit when he romantically and in that Perry-sort-of
> way
> (that would make sense *lol*) "I like maintaining you"
> it was reallly really sweet.. C has matured so much.. and although he
> is not so funny as he used to be.. they needed to add realism.. people do
> have to mature....and relationships do mature. I'm always going to like
> Monica as a friends because she is just so obsessive like me.. and I'm
> always going to Like Chandler cos he just is so sweet.. and I guess I was
> just pleased my two fave characters got together. now we just gotta get
> Joey a permanent relationship.. which does not seem to be happening yet..
> Writes: Go with Joey !!! "he's your pal, he';s your buddy. Where is
> everyone ? they're hanging out with Joey"
Joey has a lot of maturing to do in that catagory. Like many women have
said to him. He's not marriage material. Its going to take awhile for him to
become
marriage material so the writers better start maturing that aspect of his
character now or he wont be married till he's 70..
~Act
Activia
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This suggests a pecking order as follows...
> >
> > > > Phoebe
> > > > Rachel
> > > > Monica
> > > > Chandler
> > > > Joey
> > > > Ross
> >
> > > > ..except that Ross is the only one who can tell Phoebe what to do
> > > > sometimes, so maybe the names should be in a circle...
I think it's more complicated than that. Ross falls over at anything
Rachel says. He will stand up, at times, to each of the others
depending on the situation. I do not think either of the men really
dominate him consistently. He tends to lose his fights with Phoebe, and
he does give into Monica *when she's in anal-freak mode.*
The men actually give and take pretty well. I can think of a couple of
times that Chandler, who supposedly dominates Joey, had to grovel in
apology. Monica dominates Chandler,and sometimes Rachel. Rachel and
Monica tend to trade off.
> >
> > > you think Joey dominates Ross?
> >
> > Oh yes - at least the *real* Joey does, not "Slow Joey": you only have
to
> > look at the way Ross either goes running to Joey for advice; or he
regrets
> > failing to do so after he's come badly unstuck, eg the start of 316.
>
> ahh I see what your saying..
> Joey might not be book smart but sometimes he does have some common
sense.
Only when the script calls for it. He can be pretty senseless at
times. HAND TWIN?????
This may appear to be posted from me..but its Claire's!
> Ross is all book smart.
I will give you this. Ross has the common sense God gave a chipmunk,
and that's a fact.
Mazzy
> TOW the Joke
>
> The final storyline was the girl's weird dating question.
>
> The girls are reading Ross's Playboy and Monica asks Rachel & Phoebe if
> they HAD to pick one of the others to date, which would it be?
>
I think Playboy had an article on that very theme two or three years
ago. Some guy wittered on for several thousand words about the pros and
cons of the three, and settled on Monica, IIRC.
The issue is probably lying around somewhere if anyone wants to hear the
guy's reasoning.
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>IYDMMSS
"If you don't mind me saying so", yeah? Please, people - some simpler
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C4 UK/Anzac/Euro SPOILER SPACE for 612...
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612 "TOW the Joke"
Does anyone have any idea what the Doctor Monkey joke was? BTW, I am *not*
referring to any jokes printed in the edition of Playboy seen in the show.
Tennant Stuart
Tennant Stuart
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
> >In article <lhGbmEAY...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
> ><pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >> TOW the Joke
> >> Slightly better than last week, though somewhat farcical in places.
> >IYDMMSS
> That took a bit of working out!
:-)
> > Paul, are you ever going to actually ENJOY an episode? I was
> >laughing all the way through this, especially at the three women.
> Perhaps I've just been spoiler by the consistent quality of other
> seasons?
I've enjoyed 6 out of the 12 episodes so far this season.
My scores for S1-5 were 14/18/15/14/13 so S6 isn't doing *too* badly.
As long as Janine doesn't return, that is! (No spoilers)
> >This should put to rest all those who say Chandler would freak at a baby.
> >
> Talking about it is one thing - but if Monica should actually get
> pregnant... ! :)
IYAM, 612 shows that Chandler is now looking forward to fatherhood.
Tennant
Tennant Stuart
> FROM CLAIRE ABRAHAM
Would either Activia or Claire care to explain?
A pyjama party perhaps? :)
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> > This suggests a pecking order as follows...
> > Phoebe
> > Rachel
> > Monica
> > Chandler
> > Joey
> > Ross
> > ..except that Ross is the only one who can tell Phoebe what to do
> > sometimes, so maybe the names should be in a circle...
> I think it's more complicated than that. Ross falls over at anything
> Rachel says. He will stand up, at times, to each of the others
> depending on the situation. I do not think either of the men really
> dominate him consistently. He tends to lose his fights with Phoebe, and
> he does give into Monica *when she's in anal-freak mode.*
Ross only gets anywhere when the others have already backed themselves into
a corner and know in their own hearts that they're in the wrong. This
especially applies when Phoebe is in the wrong, and all the others are
right, so Rachel/Monica/Chandler/Joey make Ross confront her.
> The men actually give and take pretty well. I can think of a couple of
> times that Chandler, who supposedly dominates Joey, had to grovel in
> apology. Monica dominates Chandler,and sometimes Rachel. Rachel and
> Monica tend to trade off.
Actually Chandler nearly always loses arguments to Joey, but Chandler
behaves like Joey's parent, so I put them that way round.
Monica comes across as dominating Rachel, until you look at who nearly
always gets her own way by being a little princess. Rachel shared that
apartment for 5 years and got Monica to do all the housework. How long
did Chandler live there before he put an apron on?
> > > > you think Joey dominates Ross?
> > > Oh yes - at least the *real* Joey does, not "Slow Joey": you only have
> > > to look at the way Ross either goes running to Joey for advice; or he
> > > regrets failing to do so after he's come badly unstuck, eg 316.
> > ahh I see what your saying..
> > Joey might not be book smart but sometimes he does have some common
> > sense.
> Only when the script calls for it. He can be pretty senseless at
> times. HAND TWIN?????
Psychological distress over his ailing career? Debate...
> This may appear to be posted from me..but its Claire's!
So is Claire visiting or what? Is this something to do with your recent
problems?
> > Ross is all book smart.
> I will give you this. Ross has the common sense God gave a chipmunk,
> and that's a fact.
Yep. Phoebe is the exact opposite - they would dovetail beautifully...
Tennant Stuart
<ta...@limitwebdesign.co.uk> wrote:
> Tennant Stuart wrote ...
> >IYDMMSS
> "If you don't mind me saying so", yeah? Please, people - some simpler
> acronyms, for everyone's sanity!
S
Which goes to show that the long ones explain themselves in context, it's
the littluns that cause the bother, so I'll reveal that S is Sorry.
Tennant Stuart
<ma...@binf.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <lhGbmEAY...@activist.demon.co.uk> , Paul Hyett
> <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > TOW the Joke
> > The final storyline was the girl's weird dating question.
> > The girls are reading Ross's Playboy and Monica asks Rachel & Phoebe if
> > they HAD to pick one of the others to date, which would it be?
> I think Playboy had an article on that very theme two or three years
> ago. Some guy wittered on for several thousand words about the pros and
> cons of the three, and settled on Monica, IIRC.
I was somewhat puzzled last January when all the US fans started talking
about which Friend of the same sex they'd like to date. Everyone was so
good about not spoiling the episode that I never twigged. :)
Tennant Stuart
> Paul Hyett wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> > considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
> > >> TOW the Joke
> I dont think he'd actually freak out that much at all if they
> were married at the time.
IYAM, this episode showed that Chandler is ready for kids *now*,
and he wants two !!!
Claire Abraham
No, it shows that Chandler knows how to push Monica's buttons.
Paul Hyett
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Out of what? :)
>so S6 isn't doing *too* badly.
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>As long as Janine doesn't return, that is! (No spoilers)
>
How about Janice instead? :)
Paul Hyett
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>> The final storyline was the girl's weird dating question.
>>
>> The girls are reading Ross's Playboy and Monica asks Rachel & Phoebe if
>> they HAD to pick one of the others to date, which would it be?
>>
>
>I think Playboy had an article on that very theme two or three years
>ago. Some guy wittered on for several thousand words about the pros and
>cons of the three, and settled on Monica, IIRC.
Despite what you're thinking - it wasn't me, honest! :)
Al
: Tennant Stuart wrote ...
: >IYDMMSS
:
: "If you don't mind me saying so", yeah? Please, people - some simpler
: acronyms, for everyone's sanity!
As a rough guess.. does it mean "If you don't mind me saying something"
?
Al
- It's Al baby, you know it makes sense -
- http://come.to/anistononline -
- a...@ripside.NOSPAM.com -
Mazzy
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Never thunk it for a second. We all know you're smitten, but I think
you'd be a little more sophisticated in your adoration than this bloke
was.
Claire Abraham
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> How about Janice instead? :)
Janice is fine. Maggie Wheeler can act her way out of a paper bag.
Elle McPherson cannot.
Al
Yes, but Maggie would have a paper bag over her head.. Elle would not :)
Tennant Stuart
14 out of 24, 18 out of 24, 15 out of 25, 14 out of 24, and 13 out of 24.
> > so S6 isn't doing *too* badly.
> >As long as Janine doesn't return, that is! (No spoilers)
The reason I said that is that the four Janine episodes brought the show
down, if these are ignored then my score for S6 so far becomes 6 out of 8.
The reason I said FOUR Janine episodes is that she was virtually written
out of 609, she just had a walk-on part lasting 43 seconds.
> How about Janice instead? :)
It would be nice to see Janice again: the last time we saw her, she dumped
Ross for being too whiney, (wotta gal); then told Joey that her score was
now two out of three - so there's a new story for you... :)
Tennant Stuart
<clai...@flash.net> wrote:
> Tennant Stuart wrote:
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> > IYAM, this episode showed that Chandler is ready for kids *now*,
> > and he wants two !!!
> No, it shows that Chandler knows how to push Monica's buttons.
It *did* show that Chandler knows how to push Monica's buttons, but he did
so in a happy & relaxed manner, which showed that Chandler was not afraid of
the prospect himself. I hasten to add that Chandler was *so* off-guard, that
he showed no consideration for her feelings by implying that he was her last
option; but fortunately Monica is not Rachel...
Activia
Tennant Stuart wrote:
> In article <38E52FF9...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net> wrote:
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> > FROM CLAIRE ABRAHAM
>
> Would either Activia or Claire care to explain?
LOL..I wish but I'm afraid claire and I dont live within a 100 mile radius. No
she just keeps sending me her posts in email lol.
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<clai...@flash.net> wrote:
> Maggie Wheeler can act her way out of a paper bag.
It's funny you should say that Claire, were you perchance thinking of
308 "TOW the Giant Poking Device", when Miss Wheeler actually had to
act with a paper bag over half her face? She did a wonderful job with
that, her controlled breathing giving expression to the folds...
Tennnat
Activia
Tennant Stuart wrote:
> In article <38E5FBD7...@flash.net>, Claire Abraham
> <clai...@flash.net> wrote:
>
> > Maggie Wheeler can act her way out of a paper bag.
>
> It's funny you should say that Claire, were you perchance thinking of
> 308 "TOW the Giant Poking Device", when Miss Wheeler actually had to
> act with a paper bag over half her face? She did a wonderful job with
> that, her controlled breathing giving expression to the folds...
>
You read my mind again!
~Act
Activia
Tennant Stuart wrote:
> In article <38E504E3...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net> wrote:
>
> > Paul Hyett wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> > > considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
> > > >In article <lhGbmEAY...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
> > > >> TOW the Joke
>
> > I dont think he'd actually freak out that much at all if they
> > were married at the time.
>
> IYAM, this episode showed that Chandler is ready for kids *now*,
> and he wants two !!!
hmm............but dont u think he would be wanting to fully commit if he is
ready for kids now..hmmm..sooo..maybe I am onto something..
~Act
>
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> Tennant
Tennant Stuart
> > > FROM CLAIRE ABRAHAM
> > Would either Activia or Claire care to explain?
> LOL..I wish but I'm afraid claire and I dont live within a 100 mile
> radius. No she just keeps sending me her posts in email lol.
Pardon me for prying, but since YOU were having trouble posting, why isn't
it the other way round, Claire posting for you via email?
Tennant, (just curious)
Activia
Tennant Stuart wrote:
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> > Tennant Stuart wrote:
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> > > In article <38E52FF9...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > FROM CLAIRE ABRAHAM
>
> > > Would either Activia or Claire care to explain?
>
> > LOL..I wish but I'm afraid claire and I dont live within a 100 mile
> > radius. No she just keeps sending me her posts in email lol.
>
> Pardon me for prying, but since YOU were having trouble posting, why isn't
> it the other way round, Claire posting for you via email?
>
> Tennant, (just curious)
I know I said the same thing to Claire. But I have problems receiving
posts not posting. I think that Claire and I's newserver are gaining up
on us!!
~Act
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My guess is sommat to do with a monkey, and the monkey being a doctor and
being unable to right prescriptions, and apparantly it's offensive to women
too :)
So sommat like a woman goes to a doctor, and finds out he's a monkkey and
sommat else happens punchline - LAUGH!
or sommat like that.I'm bad at jokes my best ever was
"What did the red tomato say to the green tomato?"
"Are you feeling sick?"
People laugh because it's so crap.
Chis
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"Here, give me your feet."
Jacqui
>or sommat like that.I'm bad at jokes my best ever was
>
>"What did the red tomato say to the green tomato?"
>
>"Are you feeling sick?"
Sounds like another v silly joke that someone (circa 1978 so I don't
remember who) turned into an operatic aria.... 2 parrots in a tree, and
the owner asks a passing man to climb up and retrieve them because they
won't come down. He climbs up and brings down the red parrot, but
leaves the other one up there. "Why didn't you bring down the green
parrot as well?" asks the owner. The man replies "Because it wasn't
ripe yet."
I can still remember the tune of the bloody song as well (it was on
Radio 4 but I was very very young and have no idea how to trace what it
was)
Jac
Tennant Stuart
<Jac...@mireille1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Sounds like another v silly joke that someone (circa 1978 so I don't
> remember who) turned into an operatic aria.... 2 parrots in a tree, and
> the owner asks a passing man to climb up and retrieve them because they
> won't come down. He climbs up and brings down the red parrot, but
> leaves the other one up there. "Why didn't you bring down the green
> parrot as well?" asks the owner. The man replies "Because it wasn't
> ripe yet."
> I can still remember the tune of the bloody song as well (it was on
> Radio 4 but I was very very young and have no idea how to trace what it
> was)
The Parrots of Penzance perhaps?
Tennant
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613 "TOW Rachel's Sister"
For any still doubting that Joey is not as dumb as he pretends to be, he
turns out to be a good waiter - prompt, courteous, gets the orders correct,
and has no trouble calculating the bill. He did have some experience at
Allesandro's, but Rachel was never that good after years at Central Park.
We are now half-way through Season 6, yet every clip in the opening titles
still comes from Season 5.
Phoebe had some lovely visual jokes with the contents of her bag, including
a live goldfish & a running shoe with an egg inside; then counting everyone
to check all six really were present when Jill knocked on the door.
Reese Witherspoon did a good job as Rachel's sister. She was 24 when this
episode was made, making Jill two years younger than Rachel was when she
began, and we saw the same type of shopping spree:
"I don't need a job, I don't need my parents, I've got great boots" boots
"Please hire me" sweater & "don't you want to rent me this apartment" pants
Jill also bought a pashmina, which caught out great know-it-all Ross (it's a
long shawl woven from the fine underfleece of goats from Northern India).
Gunther fans should note that he had a larger part in this episode than
Janine did in 609 "TOW Ross Got High".
The C&M story was pretty gross (though sex needn't involve the respiratory
tract) but it was saved by Monica's topless scene, and depending on how much
you are turned on by finding new places for vapour rub...
Phoebe fans looking for signs of new romance will have noticed that Joey
offered her a free scone as she was so pretty, (she does look *hot* in this
episode) - but Phoebe was jealous of Ross & Jill and sat between them.
Rachel was typically jealous, declaring to her sister that Ross was not a
geek, but handsome, smart, kind, and a good kisser. But when she rushed to
the window to spy on them, where had the big white porcelain dog gone? It
wasn't on Monica's balcony!
Finally, the UK version had no tag, was this true of the US version? And the
credits included Lex Arquette as a customer, yet another sibling of David?
Tennant Stuart
J. Robinson
Tennant Stuart wrote:
Are you serious about Pheobe being jealous of Ross & Jill or is it part of your
Ross & Pheobe thing? Because I don't think jealousy played any role in it, but
rather trying to stop something that would lead to a very sticky situation. By
the way, we have seen quite a few signs of Joey and Pheobe having an interesting
chemistry more this season than past seasons. And in 614 there's more. It
makes you wonder if there is anything planned for them in the finale.
Tennant Stuart
wrote:
> Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > Phoebe fans looking for signs of new romance will have noticed
> > that Joey offered her a free scone as she was so pretty - but
> > Phoebe was jealous of Ross & Jill and sat between them.
> Are you serious about Pheobe being jealous of Ross & Jill or is it
> part of your Ross & Pheobe thing? Because I don't think jealousy
> played any role in it, but rather trying to stop something that
> would lead to a very sticky situation.
I was serious. Why should Phoebe do that when she has previously urged
Rachel to let Ross get on with his life if she won't have him?
> By the way, we have seen quite a few signs of Joey and Pheobe having an
> interesting chemistry more this season than past seasons. And in 614
> there's more. It makes you wonder if there is anything planned for them
> in the finale.
Dunno... Please don't spoil any future episodes for us, okay? :)
Tennant
Claire Abraham
Because the flirting made her feel awkward. Watching somebody else
flirt makes a lot of people feel awkward. Tennant, I'm sorry, but I
think you are trying to see something that really, really, *really*
isn't there at all and isn't ever going to happen. It's back to what
Larissa said about the ten points she learned from MNL. There is often
absolutely, positively nothing whatsoever beneath the surface. Now, I
can't say that makes for Emmy caliber writing, but it seems to be what
we have to work with.
>
Tennant Stuart
<clai...@flash.net> wrote:
> > > Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > Why should Phoebe do that when she has previously urged
> > Rachel to let Ross get on with his life if she won't have him?
> Because the flirting made her feel awkward. Watching somebody else
> flirt makes a lot of people feel awkward.
..and FOURTH of all, if seeing flirting made Phoebe feel awkward, why
didn't she just tell them to get a room? (cf 408 & 524) She's not the
repressive type who would intervene on moral grounds, is she?
> Tennant, I'm sorry, but I
> think you are trying to see something that really, really, *really*
> isn't there at all and isn't ever going to happen. It's back to what
> Larissa said about the ten points she learned from MNL. There is often
> absolutely, positively nothing whatsoever beneath the surface. Now, I
> can't say that makes for Emmy caliber writing, but it seems to be what
> we have to work with.
FIRST of all, you are being sweet & kind to me, and I appreciate that. :)
SECOND of all, you & Larissa have a point that's hard for me to argue
against: this is where it would be really great if 613's scriptwriters
Sherry Bilsing, Ellen Plummer or Seth Kurland were contributing to our
little discussion; but we don't even have MNL any more. :-(
THIRD of all, since they are not, then we have no alternative but to
stick a pin in that line of argument, and jump up 21 lines to say...
Tennant, (note my reply is not sequential.)
J. Robinson
Tennant Stuart wrote:
> In article <38ED9112...@iso.edu>, "J. Robinson" <rob...@iso.edu>
> > Are you serious about Pheobe being jealous of Ross & Jill or is it
> > part of your Ross & Pheobe thing? Because I don't think jealousy
> > played any role in it, but rather trying to stop something that
> > would lead to a very sticky situation.
>
> I was serious. Why should Phoebe do that when she has previously urged
> Rachel to let Ross get on with his life if she won't have him?
Because Jill is Rachel's sister. Even though Pheobe urged Rachel to let Ross
get on with his life, doesn't mean she doesn't realize that him dating
Rachel's sister would make for an awkward situation. Dating the sister of
your ex-girlfriend is something that most people would consider taboo.
Pheobe's actions here are exactly like they should be. If any other member
of the group was there with Ross and Jill, I would hope they would do the
same thing and jealousy would play no part in it.
>
>
> > By the way, we have seen quite a few signs of Joey and Pheobe having an
> > interesting chemistry more this season than past seasons. And in 614
> > there's more. It makes you wonder if there is anything planned for them
> > in the finale.
>
> Dunno... Please don't spoil any future episodes for us, okay? :)
Am I spoiling something for you? I considered adding spoiler space, but I
really felt it was not needed as I don't feel I've given anything away. Let
me know if you feel otherwise and I'll make note of it for future posts.
Jay
>
>
> Tennant
Tennant Stuart
wrote:
> Jill is Rachel's sister. Even though Pheobe urged Rachel to let Ross
> get on with his life, doesn't mean she doesn't realize that him dating
> Rachel's sister would make for an awkward situation. Dating the sister of
> your ex-girlfriend is something that most people would consider taboo.
> Pheobe's actions here are exactly like they should be. If any other
> member of the group was there with Ross and Jill, I hope they would do the
> same thing and jealousy would play no part in it.
That's a valid interpretation, but I think it's going too far to refer to a
taboo. According to my mother, (who was one of several sisters), my father &
most of my uncles were brought home by one girl but ended up with another.
As the song goes (IIRC)...
"So tell me, pretty lady, are there any more at home like you?"
> > > By the way, we have seen quite a few signs of Joey and Pheobe having
> > > an interesting chemistry more this season than past seasons. And in
> > > 614 there's more. It makes you wonder if there is anything planned
> > > for them in the finale.
> > Dunno... Please don't spoil any future episodes for us, okay? :)
> Am I spoiling something for you? I considered adding spoiler space, but I
> really felt it was not needed as I don't feel I've given anything away.
> Let me know if you feel otherwise and I'll make note of it for future
> posts.
No, that's fine Jay, I was just a little nervous as you were rather near the
edge, and I feared someone might go a little further if I said nothing.
J. Robinson
Tennant Stuart wrote:
Well, I can understand how one may not see it as such a big deal, but Ross and
Rachel's relationship is not as simple as most. If they had gone on a couple of
dates and it didn't work out, I don't believe I would think it was as awkward,
but still weird none the less. Given R&R's enormous history, it's just not
something you do unless you get clear consent from your ex. Thus, I would
interpret it as being taboo. That's just my feeling on it and others may
differ.
Jay
Tennant Stuart
In article <38EEF048...@iso.edu>, "J. Robinson" <rob...@iso.edu>
wrote:
> Given R&R's enormous history, it's just not something you do
> unless you get clear consent from your ex. That's just my feeling
> on it and others may differ.
I'd have disagreed about the consent thing except that Jill was Rachel's
sister; so you're right Jay, he should have cleared it with her first.
Claire Abraham
He did. Ross obeyed every order she threw at him.
Tennant Stuart
In article <38EF8EA6...@flash.net>, Claire Abraham
<clai...@flash.net> wrote:
> Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > In article <38EEF048...@iso.edu>, "J. Robinson" <rob...@iso.edu>
> > wrote:
> > > Given R&R's enormous history, it's just not something you do
> > > unless you get clear consent from your ex. That's just my feeling
> > > on it and others may differ.
> > I'd have disagreed about the consent thing except that Jill was Rachel's
> > sister; so you're right Jay, he should have cleared it with her first.
> He did. Ross obeyed every order she threw at him.
Do you mean this...
ROSS: Did you tell your sister to ask me out?
RACHEL: Well yeah-
ROSS: Oh wow! I mean, wow! I mean, I-I-I think she's cute but
I-I would never have thought of going out with her, never!
RACHEL: Really?!
ROSS: Yeah but after you said it was okay, I figured, "Why not?!"
RACHEL: Oh so-so not really never.
ROSS: I have to say you are a much bigger person than I am. I mean
after all we've been through, I just-y'know I wish I had a
brother to reciprocate. Hey, if you ever want to go out with
Monica, you have my blessing.
..that's the nearest I can see to any clearance with Rachel, but in fact
Ross never explicitly asks her permission, he's not even listening to
her, he just makes assumptions about her feelings.
And Rachel doesn't throw any orders at Ross for him to obey.
BTW, while checking this out, I noticed that there was a cute R&P moment
(just before Gunther tells Joey he owes $8) with Ross & Phoebe sitting up
one end of the sofa - she is listening intently as he explains something
about his hand, possibly being sceptical about palmistry.
I'm not saying it means anything Claire - just that it was cute ! :)
J. Robinson
Tennant Stuart wrote:
I guess I'm gonna need to re-phrase my position on this a little.
I think Ross dating Jill is extremely wierd, strange, awkward and a general
dating "taboo." It's something I would never do in a million years and I think
Ross should have politely turned down Jill's invitation. But this is sitcom
world so that doesn't happen, which is fine. It's clear from this R&R exchange
that Ross was going to turn down Jill's advance until he was told that Rachel
had proposed the idea(I'm assuming Jill stretched the truth a little about
Rachel's encouragement of the idea). So Ross goes ahead with the date because
he believes he's got Rachel's OK. Ross didn't ask for permission because he
thinks he's already been given the go-ahead from Rachel.
I still don't think he should have accepted the date, but obviously he didn't
feel he had reason not to.
Jay
Paul Hyett
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>
>
>> unless you get clear consent from your ex. That's just my feeling
>> on it and others may differ.
>
>I'd have disagreed about the consent thing except that Jill was Rachel's
>sister; so you're right Jay, he should have cleared it with her first.
Which would have meant little IMO, as Rachel could hardly have refused
without looking possessive, and Ross would probably ignored a refusal
anyway.
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Paul Hyett
> after all we've been through, I just-y'know I wish I had a
> brother to reciprocate. Hey, if you ever want to go out with
> Monica, you have my blessing.
Just think if Joey had heard that line! :)
Claire Abraham
>
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> >> unless you get clear consent from your ex. That's just my feeling
> >> on it and others may differ.
> >
> >I'd have disagreed about the consent thing except that Jill was Rachel's
> >sister; so you're right Jay, he should have cleared it with her first.
>
> Which would have meant little IMO, as Rachel could hardly have refused
> without looking possessive, and Ross would probably ignored a refusal
> anyway.
Have you seen the episode that follows? I'm afraid I cannot continue to
support my feelings on the subject until I'm sure you are up to speed.
Claire Abraham
> <clai...@flash.net> wrote:
> > Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > > In article <38EEF048...@iso.edu>, "J. Robinson" <rob...@iso.edu>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > unless you get clear consent from your ex. That's just my feeling
> > > > on it and others may differ.
>
> > > I'd have disagreed about the consent thing except that Jill was Rachel's
> > > sister; so you're right Jay, he should have cleared it with her first.
>
>
> Do you mean this...
>
> ROSS: Did you tell your sister to ask me out?
> RACHEL: Well yeah-
> ROSS: Oh wow! I mean, wow! I mean, I-I-I think she's cute but
> I-I would never have thought of going out with her, never!
> RACHEL: Really?!
> ROSS: Yeah but after you said it was okay, I figured, "Why not?!"
> RACHEL: Oh so-so not really never.
> after all we've been through, I just-y'know I wish I had a
> brother to reciprocate. Hey, if you ever want to go out with
> Monica, you have my blessing.
>
> Ross never explicitly asks her permission, he's not even listening to
> her, he just makes assumptions about her feelings.
Well, he asks if he has her permission, and since she knows he has bad
information from Jill and she doesn't correct it, then the onus is
indeed on her to correct the situation.
>
> And Rachel doesn't throw any orders at Ross for him to obey.
Have you seen the second half. She most certainly does, and he marches
like a soldier.
Jacqui
>Have you seen the second half. She most certainly does, and he marches
>like a soldier.
That's 614, Claire, and not until next Thurs. So no, we haven't seen it
(but I believe you)
Jac
James Squire
> For any still doubting that Joey is not as dumb as he pretends to be, he
> turns out to be a good waiter - prompt, courteous, gets the orders correct,
> and has no trouble calculating the bill. He did have some experience at
> Allesandro's, but Rachel was never that good after years at Central Park.
I look at the whole package that is "Joey". He may on some level have more
smarts than some of the others, but I'm not particularly impressed by it,
nor am I interested in crediting him with being smart. This is the guy
who "needs to know that I'm going out with more people than she is". I
know that is season one, but I do not see any reason to think he has
changed. This is the jerk who made his roommate sit in a box for
accidentally falling in love with Kathy while he (Joey) was cheating on
her.
Smart? Welllllllll, maaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyybbbbbeeee, but to what end?
> Finally, the UK version had no tag, was this true of the US version? And the
> credits included Lex Arquette as a customer, yet another sibling of David?
Tag: Not sure, but if I get a chance to check my tape, I'll let you know.
Lex: I have no idea.
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> I guess I'm gonna need to re-phrase my position on this a little.
[snipped]
> I still don't think he should have accepted the date, but obviously he didn't
> feel he had reason not to.
My own position on this is that it is entirely up to Ross what he should
do. He might decide that it is not a good idea to date Jill (and it turned
out not to be a good idea), based on his instinct about Jill and Rachel
and their relationship together, but if the situation is different, I see
absolutely nothing wrong with it. I would not expect Ross to avoid this
as any kind of general principle.
If it is wierd for the ex-, tough. S/he can just get over it.
Tennant Stuart
<jasq...@users.anet-stl.com> wrote:
> Lex: I have no idea.
I've since heard that this may be Alexis Arquette, the transsexual or
transvestite (I don't know which) sibling of David.
Randy Hinds
James Squire wrote:
>
> I look at the whole package that is "Joey". He may on some level have more
> smarts than some of the others, but I'm not particularly impressed by it,
> nor am I interested in crediting him with being smart. This is the guy
> who "needs to know that I'm going out with more people than she is". I
> know that is season one, but I do not see any reason to think he has
> changed. This is the jerk who made his roommate sit in a box for
> accidentally falling in love with Kathy while he (Joey) was cheating on
> her.
>
oooh ooooh ooooh.
I was wondering if I was the only one bothered by this. Expect totally honosty
from your roommate, but not act likewise towards your girlfriend???? That was
TOTALLY preposterous, especially since Joey was so concerned with *when* Chandler
kissed Kathy. To Joey, it was absolutely *critical* as to whether it was "before"
or "after" Chandler informed him about it, a matter of about 12 hours. Like his
feelings were going to change that drastically that fast. Besides, of all people,
Joey should know that Chandler had a harder time with girls than he does. I
thought it was totally selfish and uncaring on Joey's part.
>
> Smart? Welllllllll, maaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyybbbbbeeee, but to what end?
I don't think Joey is that bright, but he's not "Hollywood dumb", like, oh, 3's
Company's "Chrissy". I can't stand even watching people act *that* dumb.
--
I speak only for myself
--Randy
Paul Hyett
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>> >
>>
>> without looking possessive, and Ross would probably ignored a refusal
>> anyway.
>
>Have you seen the episode that follows? I'm afraid I cannot continue to
>support my feelings on the subject until I'm sure you are up to speed.
No, I should see that this Thursday.
James Squire
> I don't think Joey is that bright, but he's not "Hollywood dumb", like, oh, 3's
> Company's "Chrissy". I can't stand even watching people act *that* dumb.
I'll go along with that.
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614 "TOW Chandler Can't Cry"
Rachel started watching at the window as Chandler 'helped' Monica with her
vapour rub in the bathroom. 2½ hours later, Rachel is still at the window
when C&M emerge from the bedroom, and Monica is obviously much better.
That's some damn fine vapour rub they have in America!
Chandler says that he made out with Joey's sister "like 5 years ago", but in
fact it was only three years before.
For once Rachel is open with Ross about her feelings, (too weird him being
with Jill), and Ross immediately does what she asks.
The writers always have great fun when they have a chance to make up porno
titles, and this was no exception - Sex Toy Story 2, Lawrence of a Labia,
Inspect Her Gadget, and best of all, Buffay The Vampire Layer !!!
Ursula was amazing in the movie, and did you notice that the vampire's name
was Nosforatool? But why did Joey hire all those videos if he couldn't bear
to watch them? And how do Rachel & Monica know what her ankle looks like?
Anyway, Phoebe's reaction was priceless: "Oh my God! What am I doing?!!"
Chandler is reading "Chicken Soup for the Soul" (what's that then?) when all
of a sudden, Old Monica walks into the room !!! All lovely and warm-voiced,
just like she was for five seasons! And then when Chandler doesn't respond
to her hypothetical situations, New Monica jumps up & screeches! Aarghh!!
She was being very hard on Chandler, for he said right at the start that he
would cry if his mother killed herself: but then peculiarly, New Monica went
away again, and we had lovely Old Monica for the rest of the episode!
Ross is still having trouble with his neighbours, (or at least their kids).
Once again, Phoebe only goes as far as Ursula's doorway, when is she ever
going to go inside? Though I can see why not on this occasion! But anyway,
how come Ursula is a porn star, when "Mad About You" finished with Ursula
becoming a successful politician?
Apart from Chandler, all the R&R fans must have weeping buckets as Ross
finally admitted his feelings to Rachel; but then was not the whole scene
yet another example of the S6 writers having a go at earlier seasons, as
exemplified by Chandler's OTT reaction? He wants to know why the pair can't
work things out - the answer is that the February Sweeps are over...
It made a change to see Ross be accused of being gay, instead of Chandler.
But then Chandler got lumbered with another masturbation joke, even if it
was funny, when he is the only of the three with a steady girlfriend.
The whole episode was much funnier than 613, so much so that if both parts
are taken together, then it was an hour-long episode that took a while to
warm up while it established its plot.
BIG question - how long does Old Monica last for? Has New Monica gone away
now? Please-please-please!!!! (No spoilers)
Tennant Stuart
Claire Abraham
> now?
Nope.
Paul Hyett
considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
I loved this episode - probably the best of the season so far.
I won't comment on it here though, that can wait 'til I write my review
on Saturday.
As to this Old/New Monica stuff though, I've never been able to
understand it - I see little or no difference, myself.
James Squire
> Chandler says that he made out with Joey's sister "like 5 years ago", but in
> fact it was only three years before.
Not necessarily. Neither one of them said which sister they were referring
to. It could refer to a different sister than the one in TOW Chandler
Can't Remember Which Sister (BTW, wasn't that a season 4 episode?)
> For once Rachel is open with Ross about her feelings, (too weird him being
> with Jill), and Ross immediately does what she asks.
Just to clarify, the "for once" applies only to Rachel being open with Ross,
and not to Ross doing what she asked. Right?
> The writers always have great fun when they have a chance to make up porno
> titles, and this was no exception - Sex Toy Story 2, Lawrence of a Labia,
> Inspect Her Gadget, and best of all, Buffay The Vampire Layer !!!
It's the only kind of fun the writers know how to have.
> But why did Joey hire all those videos if he couldn't bear to watch them?
OK, I think I got this one: "hire" = "rent", right?
> Once again, Phoebe only goes as far as Ursula's doorway, when is she ever
> going to go inside? Though I can see why not on this occasion! But anyway,
> how come Ursula is a porn star, when "Mad About You" finished with Ursula
> becoming a successful politician?
By the time Mabel is as old as she is in "The Finale Frontier", being a
porn star will actually be considered to be a positive qualification for
being a politician.
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-- Delenn (to Sinclair), "Soul Hunter"
Activia
> Rachel started watching at the window as Chandler 'helped' Monica with her
> vapour rub in the bathroom. 2½ hours later, Rachel is still at the window
> when C&M emerge from the bedroom, and Monica is obviously much better.
> That's some damn fine vapour rub they have in America!
>
Yea I was thinking, gee she got better FAST!
> Chandler says that he made out with Joey's sister "like 5 years ago", but in
> fact it was only three years before.
That's why he said "like" he wasnt thinking about it hard just off the
top of his head he picked a round about number.
>
> For once Rachel is open with Ross about her feelings, (too weird him being
> with Jill), and Ross immediately does what she asks.
>
It's her sister and they have a long history.
> The writers always have great fun when they have a chance to make up porno
> titles, and this was no exception - Sex Toy Story 2, Lawrence of a Labia,
> Inspect Her Gadget, and best of all, Buffay The Vampire Layer !!!
That was hilarious.
>
> Ursula was amazing in the movie, and did you notice that the vampire's name
> was Nosforatool? But why did Joey hire all those videos if he couldn't bear
> to watch them?
To show them to the others, as proof. Or like someone else said, he
couldnt go through with it.
And how do Rachel & Monica know what her ankle looks like?
> Anyway, Phoebe's reaction was priceless: "Oh my God! What am I doing?!!"
>
> Chandler is reading "Chicken Soup for the Soul" (what's that then?)
It's an extremely popular book, and I'm sure is very good *I cant wait
to read it*, kinda picking out lessons in life or things about life.
when all
> of a sudden, Old Monica walks into the room !!! All lovely and warm-voiced,
> just like she was for five seasons! And then when Chandler doesn't respond
> to her hypothetical situations, New Monica jumps up & screeches! Aarghh!!
Yea that was a little CRUEL.
>
> She was being very hard on Chandler, for he said right at the start that he
> would cry if his mother killed herself: but then peculiarly, New Monica went
> away again, and we had lovely Old Monica for the rest of the episode!
>
> Ross is still having trouble with his neighbours, (or at least their kids).
>
Yep lol.
> Once again, Phoebe only goes as far as Ursula's doorway, when is she ever
> going to go inside? Though I can see why not on this occasion! But anyway,
> how come Ursula is a porn star, when "Mad About You" finished with Ursula
> becoming a successful politician?
>
Not till the way future.
> Apart from Chandler, all the R&R fans must have weeping buckets as Ross
> finally admitted his feelings to Rachel; but then was not the whole scene
> yet another example of the S6 writers having a go at earlier seasons, as
> exemplified by Chandler's OTT reaction?
You forgot the part when he started crying again at the last scene.
"Once I start I cant turn it off"
He wants to know why the pair can't
> work things out - the answer is that the February Sweeps are over...
>
> It made a change to see Ross be accused of being gay, instead of Chandler.
> But then Chandler got lumbered with another masturbation joke, even if it
> was funny, when he is the only of the three with a steady girlfriend.
They all love to crack jokes about embarrasing things that happen to
him, maybe to get back at all the saracastic remarks he makes to
everyone.
>
> The whole episode was much funnier than 613, so much so that if both parts
> are taken together, then it was an hour-long episode that took a while to
> warm up while it established its plot.
>
> BIG question - how long does Old Monica last for? Has New Monica gone away
> now? Please-please-please!!!! (No spoilers)
>
~Act
Mark Hunter
Paul Hyett <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fyolCHA0...@activist.demon.co.uk...
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
> >
>
> I won't comment on it here though, that can wait 'til I write my review
> on Saturday.
>
> As to this Old/New Monica stuff though, I've never been able to
> understand it - I see little or no difference, myself.
> --
So when Monica's shrieking her head off, and demanding that Rach and Pheebs'
state that they'd go out with her, you think she's the same as when she let
all the others know she was breaking up with Alan? The former's New
Monica - the latter's Old... Think about it.
Tennant Stuart
In article <fyolCHA0...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Tennant Stuart <ten...@argonet.co.uk> stated this
> considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
> I loved this episode - probably the best of the season so far.
Glad you agree with me Paul, I've been taking some flak about it.
> I won't comment on it here though, that can wait 'til I write my review
> on Saturday.
Already looking forward to it, Paul. For a moment, upon seeing your name,
I thought that you were posting early this week.
> As to this Old/New Monica stuff though, I've never been able to
> understand it - I see little or no difference, myself.
As a fellow Monica fan Paul, I envy you, for she's still there for you
throughout Season 6 - though I did think she was lovely here. :)
Have you seen the exquisite scan of CCA that Barry Somers did for me?
It's at http://pictures.courteneycox.net/mags/thenet/
What I want to know is: why aren't her eyes as blue in "Friends" as
they are in magazine photographs, or in movies such as "Scream" ???
Tennant
Jacqui
but in
>> fact it was only three years before.
>
referring
>to. It could refer to a different sister than the one in TOW Chandler
>Can't Remember Which Sister (BTW, wasn't that a season 4 episode?)
But then Joey's reaction to the "2nd" sister incident would surely have
referred to the first one? And been a lot different? Besides, even
Chandler's not *that* stupid with women....
Jac
James Squire
I never said my explanation was more likely or logical, just that it is
possible. That's enough to debunk a continuity glitch, in my book.
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'You do not know, you can not know what you're saying.'
"Yes, I do. Come what may Delenn, I will not leave your side while I
am still alive."
-- Lennier and Delenn, "All Alone in the Night"
Tennant Stuart
In article <MkMJ4.2892$3l2....@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Mark
Hunter" <n...@ecosse.net> wrote:
> Paul Hyett <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:fyolCHA0...@activist.demon.co.uk...
> > As to this Old/New Monica stuff though, I've never been able to
> > understand it - I see little or no difference, myself.
> So when Monica's shrieking her head off, and demanding that Rach and
> Pheebs' state that they'd go out with her, you think she's the same
> as when she let all the others know she was breaking up with Alan?
> The former's New Monica - the latter's Old... Think about it.
You are correct, Mark - but let Paul see Monica as he wants, he's happy.
Tennant Stuart
In article <38F781CD...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net> wrote:
> Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > Chandler says that he made out with Joey's sister "like 5 years ago",
> > but in fact it was only three years before.
> That's why he said "like" he wasnt thinking about it hard just off the
> top of his head he picked a round about number.
Yes, you're quite right Activia - but when Ross divorces Marie Angela in
Season 8 or something we'll have people saying "Yes, but in episode 614
Chandler said that he slept with her in February 1995".
> > The writers always have great fun when they have a chance to make up
> > porno titles - Sex Toy Story 2, Lawrence of a Labia, Inspect Her
> > Gadget, and best of all, Buffay The Vampire Layer !!!
> That was hilarious.
Somebody oughtta do a list...
> > Why did Joey hire all those videos if he couldn't bear
> > to watch them?
> To show them to the others, as proof. Or like someone else said, he
> couldnt go through with it.
Oooh, I like your "as proof" theory.
> > Chandler is reading "Chicken Soup for the Soul" (what's that then?)
> It's an extremely popular book, and I'm sure is very good *I cant wait
> to read it*, kinda picking out lessons in life or things about life.
Doesn't sound much like Chandler reading material to me.
> > Old Monica walks into the room !!! All lovely and warm-voiced,
> > just like she was for five seasons! And then when Chandler doesn't
> > respond to her hypothetical situations, New Monica jumps up &
> > screeches! Aarghh!!
> Yea that was a little CRUEL.
Don't you think it would have been so much better if Monica was being
genuine, simply voicing her own fears rather than trying to trap him;
and then after she leaves, Chandler quietly cries when he's alone?
> > "Mad About You" finished with Ursula becoming a successful politician.
> Not till the way future.
How many years?
> You forgot the part when he started crying again at the last scene.
> "Once I start I cant turn it off"
I reckon Chandler was faking his tears the whole time. He's cried before
when it was personal, he just wasn't crying for third party situations.
> They all love to crack jokes about embarrasing things that happen to
> him, maybe to get back at all the saracastic remarks he makes to
> everyone.
Aaah, but everybody loves Chandler, so that's alright then...
Tennant Stuart
Tennant Stuart
In article <8d8872$75b$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Jacqui"
<Jac...@mireille1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> James Squire wrote
> >In alt.tv.friends Tennant Stuart wrote:
> But then Joey's reaction to the "2nd" sister incident would surely have
> referred to the first one? And been a lot different? Besides, even
> Chandler's not *that* stupid with women....
Absolutely.
Tennant :)
Dr. Briefs
> > The writers always have great fun when they have a chance to make up porno
> > titles, and this was no exception - Sex Toy Story 2, Lawrence of a Labia,
> > Inspect Her Gadget, and best of all, Buffay The Vampire Layer !!!
>
> It's the only kind of fun the writers know how to have.
>
> > But why did Joey hire all those videos if he couldn't bear to watch them?
Didn't he just rent "Buffay, the Vampire Layer"? Gunther and that other
guy mentioned the other titles.
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it, now all I have is remorse; such a thing is one of the greatest
tragedies in life. If I could go back and redo it all, I would tell
her I love her. If I am forced to place a time limit for this love, I
wish for it to be--Ten thousand years." --A Chinese Odyssey
Activia
> In article <38F781CD...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net> wrote:
> > Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > > Chandler says that he made out with Joey's sister "like 5 years ago",
> > > but in fact it was only three years before.
>
> > That's why he said "like" he wasnt thinking about it hard just off the
> > top of his head he picked a round about number.
>
> Yes, you're quite right Activia - but when Ross divorces Marie Angela in
> Season 8 or something we'll have people saying "Yes, but in episode 614
> Chandler said that he slept with her in February 1995".
Picky peoples
>
> > > The writers always have great fun when they have a chance to make up
> > > porno titles - Sex Toy Story 2, Lawrence of a Labia, Inspect Her
> > > Gadget, and best of all, Buffay The Vampire Layer !!!
>
> > That was hilarious.
>
> Somebody oughtta do a list...
I'm surprised you havent already.
>
>
> > > Why did Joey hire all those videos if he couldn't bear
> > > to watch them?
>
> > To show them to the others, as proof. Or like someone else said, he
> > couldnt go through with it.
>
> Oooh, I like your "as proof" theory.
>
Yea, thats so Joey.
>
>
> > > Chandler is reading "Chicken Soup for the Soul" (what's that then?)
>
> > It's an extremely popular book, and I'm sure is very good *I cant wait
> > to read it*, kinda picking out lessons in life or things about life.
>
> Doesn't sound much like Chandler reading material to me.
>
UMMM, thats the point! That's why Monica asked him why he would read it
and he said because he didnt want to be all dead inside. Remember?
>
> > > Old Monica walks into the room !!! All lovely and warm-voiced,
> > > just like she was for five seasons! And then when Chandler doesn't
> > > respond to her hypothetical situations, New Monica jumps up &
> > > screeches! Aarghh!!
>
> > Yea that was a little CRUEL.
>
> Don't you think it would have been so much better if Monica was being
> genuine, simply voicing her own fears rather than trying to trap him;
> and then after she leaves, Chandler quietly cries when he's alone?
>
I thought she was at first! It surprised me as much as Chandler when she
started yelling at him, maybe that was the joke. Yea.
> > > "Mad About You" finished with Ursula becoming a successful politician.
>
> > Not till the way future.
>
> How many years?
>
Umm..I dont have a photographic memory sorry.
> > You forgot the part when he started crying again at the last scene.
> > "Once I start I cant turn it off"
>
> I reckon Chandler was faking his tears the whole time. He's cried before
> when it was personal, he just wasn't crying for third party situations.
When has he cried for personal grief? Besides the one when the duck goes
to the vet, but that was just ONE tear.
>
> > They all love to crack jokes about embarrasing things that happen to
> > him, maybe to get back at all the saracastic remarks he makes to
> > everyone.
>
> Aaah, but everybody loves Chandler, so that's alright then...
>
Yea, but they like to show they can pull one on him too!
~Act
> Tennant Stuart
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Alyssa Phoebes has emailed me, reporting that Phoebe just disappears halfway
through this episode, which surprised me. These dots symbolise the 260 lines
of dialogue, with asterisks for Phoebe's lines:
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In article <38F781CD...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net>
wrote:
> Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > Somebody oughtta do a porno title list...
> I'm surprised you havent already.
I have to be careful not to awaken the beast. :(
> > "Mad About You" finished with Ursula becoming a successful
> > politician. How many years into the future was this set?
> Umm..I dont have a photographic memory sorry.
Anyone?
> > I reckon Chandler was faking his tears the whole time. He's cried before
> > when it was personal, he just wasn't crying for third party situations.
> When has he cried for personal grief? Besides the one when the duck goes
> to the vet, but that was just ONE tear.
I didn't say grief, just when it was personal. Check out 414 "TOW Joey's
Dirty Day", 422 "TOW the Worst Best Man Ever", & 520 "TOW the Ride Along".
> > "Chicken Soup for the Soul" doesn't sound much like Chandler
> > reading material to me.
> UMMM, thats the point! That's why Monica asked him why he would read it
> and he said because he didnt want to be all dead inside. Remember?
So what exactly is it about, then?
> > Don't you think it would have been so much better if Monica was being
> > genuine, simply voicing her own fears rather than trying to trap him;
> > and then after she leaves, Chandler quietly cries when he's alone?
> I thought she was at first! It surprised me as much as Chandler when she
> started yelling at him, maybe that was the joke. Yea.
I've since come across this thoughtful piece from February 12th...
In article <38A39E18...@flash.net>, Claire Abraham
<clai...@flash.net> wrote:
> I think there is another way they could have ended this scene:
> Monica actually means everything she's saying. She begins to talk about
> her hypothetical death. As it gets more and more melodramatic, she gets
> teary eyed. Her voice begins to quaver. When she chokes out the part
> about Chandler reading the note and not reacting, she breaks down in
> tears. Chandler remains dry-eyed. That's when Monica calls him a robot
> and leaves in tears. Chandler leaves, frantically trying to fake cry.
> We do not have a scene where she lies to him about being OK with this
> the whole time; the implication is that she just got carried away with
> her own imagination.
You ought to be on the writing staff, Claire.
James Squire
> In article <8d8872$75b$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Jacqui"
> <Jac...@mireille1.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> James Squire wrote
>> >In alt.tv.friends Tennant Stuart wrote:
>> But then Joey's reaction to the "2nd" sister incident would surely have
>> referred to the first one? And been a lot different? Besides, even
>> Chandler's not *that* stupid with women....
> Absolutely.
Says who? "Stupid is as stupid does." -- Forest Gump.
Either way, it's still not a continuity glitch. It is not impossible for
Chandler to have forgotten about the first screw-up when he dated the
"2nd" sister, and it is certainly not beyond Joey to have forgotten
about it at the time, besides which I don't see why Joey has to refer to
the first one, his reaction at the time was harsh enough as it was - yet
another example of Joey being an absolute jerk in my opinion.
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"I'd rather do something and make a mistake than be frightened into doing
nothing. That's the problem today back home. Folks have been conned into
thinking they can't change the world, have to accept what is. I'll tell
you something, my friends, the world is changing every day, only question
is, who's doing it."
-- Reverend Dexter, "And The Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place"
Activia
Tennant Stuart wrote:
> In article <38F781CD...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net>
> wrote:
> > Tennant Stuart wrote:
>
> > > Somebody oughtta do a porno title list...
>
> > I'm surprised you havent already.
>
> I have to be careful not to awaken the beast. :(
??
>
> > > "Mad About You" finished with Ursula becoming a successful
> > > politician. How many years into the future was this set?
>
> > Umm..I dont have a photographic memory sorry.
>
> Anyone?
>
> > > I reckon Chandler was faking his tears the whole time. He's cried before
> > > when it was personal, he just wasn't crying for third party situations.
>
> > When has he cried for personal grief? Besides the one when the duck goes
> > to the vet, but that was just ONE tear.
>
> I didn't say grief, just when it was personal. Check out 414 "TOW Joey's
> Dirty Day", 422 "TOW the Worst Best Man Ever", & 520 "TOW the Ride Along".
Ok, I'll whip out the tapes I havent recieved yet, or try to hunt back
in MY memory..hmmmmmmm
I dont remember him crying in these episodes..
>
> > > "Chicken Soup for the Soul" doesn't sound much like Chandler
> > > reading material to me.
>
> > UMMM, thats the point! That's why Monica asked him why he would read it
> > and he said because he didnt want to be all dead inside. Remember?
>
> So what exactly is it about, then?
ACK! Since I havent read it, I'll give you a snyopsis.
It's about lessons in life or something like that, there are a lot of
stories in it, most are sad.
>
> > > Don't you think it would have been so much better if Monica was being
> > > genuine, simply voicing her own fears rather than trying to trap him;
> > > and then after she leaves, Chandler quietly cries when he's alone?
>
> > I thought she was at first! It surprised me as much as Chandler when she
> > started yelling at him, maybe that was the joke. Yea.
>
> I've since come across this thoughtful piece from February 12th...
>
> In article <38A39E18...@flash.net>, Claire Abraham
> <clai...@flash.net> wrote:
>
> > I think there is another way they could have ended this scene:
>
> > Monica actually means everything she's saying. She begins to talk about
> > her hypothetical death. As it gets more and more melodramatic, she gets
> > teary eyed. Her voice begins to quaver. When she chokes out the part
> > about Chandler reading the note and not reacting, she breaks down in
> > tears. Chandler remains dry-eyed. That's when Monica calls him a robot
> > and leaves in tears. Chandler leaves, frantically trying to fake cry.
> > We do not have a scene where she lies to him about being OK with this
> > the whole time; the implication is that she just got carried away with
> > her own imagination.
>
> You ought to be on the writing staff, Claire.
>
I like your version better Claire.
~Act
Tennant Stuart
In article <38FA6D90...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net> wrote:
> Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > In article <38F8A3D9...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net>
> wrote:
> > In article <38F781CD...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net>
> > wrote:
> > > Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > > > Somebody oughtta do a porno title list...
> > > I'm surprised you havent already.
> > I have to be careful not to awaken the beast. :(
> ??
I have a natural penchant to analyse everything, but I do my best to
keep it under control, except when people pay me large sums of money.
> > > When has he cried for personal grief?
> > I didn't say grief, just when it was personal. Check out 414
> > "TOW Joey's Dirty Day", 422 "TOW the Worst Best Man Ever", &
> > 520 "TOW the Ride Along".
> Ok, I'll whip out the tapes I havent recieved yet, or try to hunt back
> in MY memory..hmmmmmmm I dont remember him crying in these episodes..
Enjoy.
> > You ought to be on the writing staff, Claire.
> I like your version better Claire.
It's good, innit?
Activia
ahhh, and who's paying you this time?
>
> > > > When has he cried for personal grief?
>
> > > I didn't say grief, just when it was personal. Check out 414
> > > "TOW Joey's Dirty Day", 422 "TOW the Worst Best Man Ever", &
> > > 520 "TOW the Ride Along".
>
> > Ok, I'll whip out the tapes I havent recieved yet, or try to hunt back
> > in MY memory..hmmmmmmm I dont remember him crying in these episodes..
>
> Enjoy.
You never understand my saracasm do ya? lol
>
> > > You ought to be on the writing staff, Claire.
>
> > I like your version better Claire.
>
> It's good, innit?
>
Points out spelling error(typo) Isn't. Wow I actually got to correct
someone. *knowing that this will be the only time in which she can do
this*
> Tennant
>
~Act (Ok I am learning to put my sig on the bottom OK??)
Tennant Stuart
> Tennant Stuart wrote:
> > I have a natural penchant to analyse everything, but I do my best to
> > keep it under control, except when people pay me large sums of money.
> ahhh, and who's paying you this time?
Feh. You call *this* analysis? A three minute type-out of bits & bobs
with no coherent narrative, unlike Paul's much better pieces?
> > Enjoy.
> You never understand my saracasm do ya? lol
Nor you mine, it seems. ;)
> > It's good, innit?
> Points out spelling error(typo) Isn't. Wow I actually got to correct
> someone. *knowing that this will be the only time in which she can do
> this*
Sorry, but "innit" was not a typo but a British colloquial expression.
> ~Act (Ok I am learning to put my sig on the bottom OK??)
You're clarity itself to read these days, Activia. Well done. :)
Tennant, (who likes "saracasm" since it has a nice Arabian touch to it)
Activia
Tennant Stuart wrote:
>
> In article <38FD0E3A...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net> wrote:
>
> > Tennant Stuart wrote:
>
> > > I have a natural penchant to analyse everything, but I do my best to
> > > keep it under control, except when people pay me large sums of money.
>
> > ahhh, and who's paying you this time?
>
> Feh. You call *this* analysis? A three minute type-out of bits & bobs
> with no coherent narrative, unlike Paul's much better pieces?
I was making a joke.
>
>
> > > Enjoy.
>
> > You never understand my saracasm do ya? lol
>
> Nor you mine, it seems. ;)
Well, I actually figured it out when I was laying in bed this morning.
>
> > > It's good, innit?
>
> > Points out spelling error(typo) Isn't. Wow I actually got to correct
> > someone. *knowing that this will be the only time in which she can do
> > this*
>
> Sorry, but "innit" was not a typo but a British colloquial expression.
Sorry I dont know all the british colloquial expressions.
>
>
> > ~Act (Ok I am learning to put my sig on the bottom OK??)
>
> You're clarity itself to read these days, Activia. Well done. :)
at last!
>
> Tennant, (who likes "saracasm" since it has a nice Arabian touch to it)
Me too!
>
> --
> Greetings to family, friends, and neighbours from ten...@argonet.co.uk
~Act
Tennant Stuart
> > You're clarity itself to read these days, Activia. Well done. :)
> at last!
You deserve it, Activia, and I'm not being saracastic. :)
Tennant
Paul Hyett
considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
>
>> Tennant Stuart wrote:
>
>> > I have a natural penchant to analyse everything, but I do my best to
>> > keep it under control, except when people pay me large sums of money.
>
>> ahhh, and who's paying you this time?
>
>Feh. You call *this* analysis? A three minute type-out of bits & bobs
>with no coherent narrative, unlike Paul's much better pieces?
Perhaps my invoice got lost in the post then? :)
--
Activia
Tennant Stuart wrote:
>
> In article <38FE3403...@snet.net>, Activia <act...@snet.net> wrote:
>
> > > You're clarity itself to read these days, Activia. Well done. :)
>
> > at last!
>
> You deserve it, Activia, and I'm not being saracastic. :)
aww, thanks.
>
> Tennant
>
> --
> Greetings to family, friends, and neighbours from ten...@argonet.co.uk
~Act
Activia
hey I got another one!
~Act