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Kaziganthi

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Apr 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/12/97
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> Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwashing.
> Using the same set of arguments, language and scoffery the communists
> ‘successfully’ oppressed and whipped out the lives of millions of people
> in the Eastern Europe, before they all went to misery in 1990.
> The life is a paradox, while atheists in the Eastern Europe trashed
> their journals (scientific atheism, atheist, etc.), the atheists in
> this country are approximately 50 - 70 years behind their
> Eastern European colleagues.

That's a bit hypocritical, don't you think? Atheists may be responsible
for Communism, but in theory it works quite nicely. Take a look at
Sweden. Democratic Socialism, (watered down Communism) works great.

Now let's assume, for the sake of argument, that Atheists are
responsible for thousands killed in Russia. We'll stack that up against
all the murder, witch hunting, and genocides you, or your God has
wreaked upon millions of people. Not just 2 or 3 million...much more
than that.

If you're going to go around asserting that Atheists are responsible for
thousands of deaths and thus scum, you'd better answer up for all of
your own murders!

Kaz

si...@rsgis.tamu.edu

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THE MOPPETs OF COMMUNISTS


Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwashing.
Using the same set of arguments, language and scoffery the communists
‘successfully’ oppressed and whipped out the lives of millions of people
in the Eastern Europe, before they all went to misery in 1990.
The life is a paradox, while atheists in the Eastern Europe trashed
their journals (scientific atheism, atheist, etc.), the atheists in
this country are approximately 50 - 70 years behind their
Eastern European colleagues.

No matter how much are atheists here trying to distinguish
themselves from Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Fidel Castro
and other communists, they have the same spirit, logic,
and the same atheistic doctrines. They speak about freedom
but, in fact, atheism is a mind controlling atrategy,
a perversion, in essence, of a totalitarian charge.
Communists and Atheists, particularly like their
image to be linked with sciences and education. This is
supposed to be their main instrument to show that they
operate on HIGHER level , than the ordinary believers
and hence they know the ‘truth’. This sophisticated game
only indicates their insecurity. After all the atheists
here hold on an old Karl Marx’s a claim that religion is
an opium whereas atheism is scientifically sounded.
Religion is, however, still here, strong than ever,
but Karl Marx is not. Using exactly same ‘opium’
atheists in the Eastern Europe oppressed people for
decades and created labor camps full of religious people.
Hitler did the same with the Jews. Here the criteria was
the race there the criteria was FAITH. Discrimination of
believers in atheistic system was fully compatible to the
nazistic discrimination. The race was just replaced by
those “who studied, read the bible of evolution, worshipped
Darwin and have some vague imagination about science.
On one hand there were educated and progress loving class
of atheists which deserved the highest positions in the
country, on the other side was a group of “backwards”
in God believing people who deserved to be persecuted,
robbed and killed.
. Atheists’ are just puppets of communists. We live
in a historical time in which Eastern Europe dumped out atheism.
All these fine journals, books theories forced on children,
workers, intelligent people are dumped out. The communist atheist
were at least professionals Atheist on this network look like
amateurs, or like their puppets. Millions of people were
threatened by atheism, they could not sleep, could not relax
in jobs because one question totally destroyed their life:
DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD? Ten years of prison just because one
kept in touch with a religious person. Ten years of taking
away the basic human rights to believe.
The time is gone you lost. Let me tell you what
people could not tell you there before: We spit on you
atheists in the name of those millions who were tortured,
killed, lost jobs fired, oppressed just because they
believed in God. And you did nothing! You were only
observing situation from safety hypocrats. For several
decades your atheistic brothers tortured people behind
Iron curtain. Let me tell you we spit on you-hypocrites.
While unjustness caused by atheists was being done to
millions of people you did not raise your voice for freedom.
We are not speaking about middle ages where you would like
to point your finger at, we are speaking about present modern
age of technology and overall progress. This makes it
particularly shameful. While you were enjoying life on
freedom and still using Karl Marx’s statement: Religion
is OPIUM, atheists abroad oppressed generations using
the same statement; bringing people to poverty, mess and
depressive life style. As we are leaving 20th century the
atheists’ opression left in it the most significant facts
of history. Anyone who has a little common sense would
forget atheism! After all you are just communist puppets,
hypocrats and relict of 20th century on which we spit.

peter

Mats Andtbacka

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Apr 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/13/97
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Subject: Re: Communists' puppets

correctly spelled and capitalized subject line, minus two

si...@rsgis.tamu.edu, in <5ip3th$1...@news.tamu.edu>:

>THE MOPPETs OF COMMUNISTS

all-caps headline with one character lowercase; misspelled; plus two

> Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwashing.

correctly spelled "atheists", minus five

> Using the same set of arguments, language and scoffery the communists
>‘successfully’ oppressed and whipped out the lives of millions of people

zany, unreadable tick and backtick escape sequences, plus one

> in the Eastern Europe, before they all went to misery in 1990.

[...]
>Eastern European colleagues.

no sense being made, plus one (this part's compulsory, after all)

repetitititivitity, continuing correct spelling and capitalization,
absence of brimstone and frothing-at-mouth, lack of babble quotes-
all in all, a soundly negative points total making for a perhaps lower
score than strictly deserved, but given that we've such sterling
examples as zoner and apatriot both currently posting this really
_was_ mediocre by comparison.

bottom line score: 4.1 - back to the drawing board.
--
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_Yer Blues_, Lennon / McCartney

Michael Alexander

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si...@rsgis.tamu.edu wrote in article <5ip3th$1...@news.tamu.edu>...

> . Atheists' are just puppets of communists. We live

You are the one imitating Nazis, not I. What Hitler said about Jews,
you say about Atheists. You say many hateful and false things about
Atheists. I am not a puppet of Communists. I voted for Ronald Reagan
twice. I spoke out against the evil empire. I can't prove it, because
I'm a nobody. I have a mind of my own. I form my own opinions. I am
not a puppet of any one. Do you accuse every one who disagrees with
you on any subject of being a puppet of some one? Are you the only
person in the world who has a mind of his own? Christians were just
as guilty as Atheists of supporting the holocaust.

Electro

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On Sat, 12 Apr 1997 20:59:06 -0700, Kaziganthi
<kazig...@geocities.com> wrote:


>That's a bit hypocritical, don't you think? Atheists may be responsible
>for Communism,

Communism is the bastard son of christianity. Give up your life and
mind for the greater good of the _______!

Sound farmiliar?


ele...@minn.net Atheist #344
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665 the neighbor of the beast

Michelle Malkin

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si...@rsgis.tamu.edu wrote:


>THE MOPPETs OF COMMUNISTS


> Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwashing.

> Using the same set of arguments, language and scoffery the communists
>‘successfully’ oppressed and whipped out the lives of millions of people

> in the Eastern Europe, before they all went to misery in 1990.

>. Atheists’ are just puppets of communists. We live

>peter

Aside from your troll being pure nonsense, your spelling stinks.

Mickey
_______________________________________________________


Raistlin Majere

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On 12 Apr 1997 22:55:45 GMT, si...@rsgis.tamu.edu postulated:

Do we actually give a fuck what he wrote? I mean, it's all fucking
nonsense anyway. One more in the killfile.

Raist
atheist #51

[on The Lone Gunmen]
Scully: Those are the most paranoid people I have ever met. I don't know
how you could think that what they say is remotely plausible.
Mulder: I think its remotely plausible that someone might think you're hot.
[from _The X-Files_, episode entitled "E.B.E."]

Gerard van Wilgen

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si...@rsgis.tamu.edu wrote:


<CLIP>

Well, I cannot speak for all atheists, but I have always be both
anti-Christian and anti-communist myself, and I think it is a good
thing that communism in Central and Eastern Europe has finally
collapsed. Now that those people have been liberated of one of their
oppressing systems they can start to get rid of the remaining one.

Eventually the close contact with Western Europe will result in the
erosion of Christianity; an example of this is Polland where the
Catholic Church seems to have become less powerful than it was in the
Communist Era.

==================================================

Nu, mi ne povas paroli nome de chiuj ateistoj, sed mi mem chiam estis
kaj antikristanisma kaj antikomunisma, kaj mi opinias ke estas bone ke
la komunismo en Meza kaj Orienta Europo finfine disfalis. Nun ke tiuj
homoj estas liberigitaj de unu de siaj subpremaj sistemoj, ili povas
ekliberigas sin de la restanta.

Fine la intensa kontakto kun Okcidenta Europo rezultos je la erodo de
kristanismo; ekzemplo de tio chi estas Polujo kie la katolika eklezio
shajnas esti ighinta malpli potenca ol ghi estis en la komunisma erao.


=======================================================
Gerard van Wilgen
-------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.travlang.com/Ergane/
=======================================================
Ekrigardu mian multlingvan vortarprogramon je:
http://www.travlang.com/Ergane/
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Ade The Shade

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> siska spake thusly :-

>THE MOPPETs OF COMMUNISTS
> Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwashing.
> Using the same set of arguments, language and scoffery the communists

[idiotic babble snipped]

>of history. Anyone who has a little common sense would
>forget atheism! After all you are just communist puppets,
>hypocrats and relict of 20th century on which we spit.

>peter

Gosh, Peter, we don't hear the old "atheism = communism" rant
much these days. Thanks for reminding us how ignorant some people can be.

Do you often feel it necessary to make a public display of your own
lack of knowledge?

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Psycho Dave

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si...@rsgis.tamu.edu wrote:
>
> THE MOPPETs OF COMMUNISTS
>

Oh, boy, here we go AGAIN! Yet another lunatic who can't get over the
myth of the atheist-communist connection!

> Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwashing.

Really, How so? You know you never do explain how this is so in the
entire flame-biat that you wrote. WHy don't you give us examples of
classic communist brainwashing, then compare them to arguments that
atheists here on alt.atheism have used. That ought to be amusing... I
bet, for everyone in this newsgroup, that he'll never do it.

> Using the same set of arguments, language and scoffery the communists

> ‘successfully’ oppressed and whipped out the lives of millions of people
> in the Eastern Europe, before they all went to misery in 1990.

You present a completely distorted view of communism and atheism. First
of all, not all communists are atheists. Not all atheists are communists
(in fact, few are). People living in the Soviet union during the Stalin
years were not converted to atheism. In fact, most Russian churches
remained standing. The Russian Orthodox church was co-opted by the
soviet government and used for propaganda. People still went to church,
but priests were never allowed to speak out against the government.

The Stalin years were horrible, but more because Stalin was a paranoid
schizophrenic -- A LUNATIC. He ruled with an iron fist, and because of
his schizophrenic behavior, Soviet leaders were afraid of him. His reign
of terror had almost nothing to do with being an atheist, which is
harder to prove, since he never publicly announced that he was an
atheist. It is a common assumption that he was, because most IDIOTS who
post messages similar to yours in alt.atheism have this notion that a
communist is automatically an atheist. Well, consider the Christian
communists out there who practice "Liberation Theology" -- a form of
Christianity which incorporated the Marist philosophy of communal life,
sharing property, and such.

The bottom line is that the Soviets were used and abused because of the
INSANTY of one man, and the people who were too whimpy to take him out
and throw him into the looney bin while they had a chance.

> The life is a paradox, while atheists in the Eastern Europe trashed
> their journals (scientific atheism, atheist, etc.), the atheists in
> this country are approximately 50 - 70 years behind their
> Eastern European colleagues.

Behind in terms of what?

> No matter how much are atheists here trying to distinguish
> themselves from Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Fidel Castro
> and other communists, they have the same spirit, logic,
> and the same atheistic doctrines.

WHy don't you explain what constitutes "the spirit" of these atheists,
and the "logic" and "doctrines" that they used. I'd be interested to
hear what you think they were, since like the typical FLAME-BAITER, you
don't bother to go into any details. Virtually all of the atheists I
know, including myself, are CAPITALISTS, and some of us (like me) vote
republican. I acknowledge that many atheists are communists or
socialists, but to say that all of us are is a fallacy.

> They speak about freedom
> but, in fact, atheism is a mind controlling atrategy,
> a perversion, in essence, of a totalitarian charge.

Really, why don't you explain this mind-control strategy for us then?
I'd love to hear how it works and what classic mind-control tactics it
uses. I would also like to know what is "totalitarian" about my beliefs,
since you know so much about what other atheists and myself think. If
you cannot explain it, then you are just blowing hot air.

> Communists and Atheists, particularly like their
> image to be linked with sciences and education. This is
> supposed to be their main instrument to show that they
> operate on HIGHER level , than the ordinary believers
> and hence they know the ‘truth’. This sophisticated game
> only indicates their insecurity.

I never talked to communists who claimed any connection to science.
Communists are all about egalitarianism and what they call "economic
justice". Communists are rarely intellectuals -- they are usually young
loudmouths who have a disdain for academia and science. I used to harass
commies in Harvard Sq. every time they brought out their bullhorn and
started spewing their crap -- and I was only a High Schooler at the
time.

As for atheists, I acknowledge that many of us are linked to the
sciences and education, but that's mainly because most of us are heavily
involved with the sciences and education -- many of us are employed as
scientists, doctors, engineers, and teachers. One doesn't need to wonder
about it.

> After all the atheists
> here hold on an old Karl Marx’s a claim that religion is
> an opium whereas atheism is scientifically sounded.

I believe that Marx said "Religion is the opiate of the masses", and
that you meant to say that "atheism is scientifically sound".

Most atheists **ARE** scientific about their beliefs concerning the
non-existence of god(s). We use the scientific method to determine our
stance on the god issue. We see no real evidence of god -- just a bunch
of fallacious arguments from believers, using the most common logical
fallacies. Believers have no evidence for god. All they have is personal
testimony and "unsolved mysteries".

> Religion is, however, still here, strong than ever,
> but Karl Marx is not.

Ask alt.atheism's membership one question. Ask us all if any of us
admire or follow Karl Marx's teaching and philosophy. I guarantee you
that you will get few, if any atheists in alt.atheism telling you how
much they love Marx and Marxism. The only Marx I follow is Groucho,
Chico, Harpo, and Zeppo.

> Using exactly same ‘opium’
> atheists in the Eastern Europe oppressed people for
> decades and created labor camps full of religious people.

Why do idiots like this yahoo INSIST over and over again that all
communists are atheists, and INSIST on using the words "communist" and
"atheist" interchangably?

> Hitler did the same with the Jews. Here the criteria was
> the race there the criteria was FAITH. Discrimination of
> believers in atheistic system was fully compatible to the
> nazistic discrimination. The race was just replaced by
> those “who studied, read the bible of evolution, worshipped
> Darwin and have some vague imagination about science.

Oh, boy, the old "Hitler was an atheist" bullshit. Let me set you
straight on Hitler. Hitler was a ROman Catholic. He claimed that the
Jews were evil "Because they killed Jesus", among other things. He also
stated in several of his recorded speeches that the Nazis' "final
solution" was "God's Work". In addition to being a catholic, Hitler also
dabbled in paganism and the occult. He believed in the supernatural. He
believed that he was doing "god's work". He never said a single
sentence, or wrote anything to give anyone the impression that he was an
atheist. If anything, all of his writing and recorded speeches indicate
that he believed in god, and inparticular, the Christian God. This does
not mean that Christianity or Paganism are evil, though, just because
Hitler was into those beliefs, too. Your fallacy, as well as your
historical ignorance, are typical of most Christian flame-baiters.

> On one hand there were educated and progress loving class
> of atheists which deserved the highest positions in the
> country, on the other side was a group of “backwards”
> in God believing people who deserved to be persecuted,
> robbed and killed.

COuld you point out which of these Nazis were atheists? Virtually all of
the high-ranking Nazis were pagans or Christian, and there were several
indoctrination rituals which were bizarely relgious and invoked the name
of god. So please name names, or we shall have to conclude that you're
just blabbering more ignorance at us.

> Atheists’ are just puppets of communists.

Interesting statement. Can you please supply us with some facts and
figures (not blind accusations like the rest of this post) to back up
your claim? I would sure like to hear it, since I am a slightly
conservative republican atheist who thinks that capitalism is the
greatest economic system.

> We live
> in a historical time in which Eastern Europe dumped out atheism.

There you go again, using atheism and communism interchangably.

> All these fine journals, books theories forced on children,
> workers, intelligent people are dumped out. The communist atheist
> were at least professionals Atheist on this network look like
> amateurs, or like their puppets. Millions of people were
> threatened by atheism, they could not sleep, could not relax
> in jobs because one question totally destroyed their life:
> DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD? Ten years of prison just because one
> kept in touch with a religious person. Ten years of taking
> away the basic human rights to believe.

Really? Can you name one Russian who went to prison for 10 years, just
for saying that he believed in God?

> The time is gone you lost. Let me tell you what
> people could not tell you there before: We spit on you
> atheists in the name of those millions who were tortured,
> killed, lost jobs fired, oppressed just because they
> believed in God.

I do not beleive that communists brutalized anyone just for believing in
God. They typically go after people who are against communism or
disagree with state policy.

> And you did nothing! You were only
> observing situation from safety hypocrats.

I don't recall hoards of Christians massing together to do anything
about Stalin's attrocities, either. I know that few of us in the western
world even knew about Stalin's attrocities until the 1980's, because the
soviet union CENSORED that information so that nobody in the west would
find out! Get a clue. I was shocked when I heard it, but seeing that
it's over 50 years after everyone got killed, there's little anyone can
do now.

As for Hitler's holocaust -- can you name a single atheist who publicly
admitted that they were in favor of it? Can you find any news articles
from the 1940's where any atheists made public remarks about Hitler's
attrocities? If you find one, let me know...

> For several
> decades your atheistic brothers tortured people behind
> Iron curtain. Let me tell you we spit on you-hypocrites.

Wow, this guy sure is behaving in a nice "Christian" way, isn't he?

> While unjustness caused by atheists was being done to
> millions of people you did not raise your voice for freedom.

You are so ignorant of history that I find you pathetic. I pity you. I
feel sorry for you.

> We are not speaking about middle ages where you would like
> to point your finger at, we are speaking about present modern
> age of technology and overall progress.

Wait a second, here -- are you complaining because no modern atheists
today are running around rallying support against Stalin and Hitler? Get
a clue? They're dead. Their attrocities happend over 50 years ago.
Nothing can be done.

What is your point?

> This makes it
> particularly shameful. While you were enjoying life on
> freedom and still using Karl Marx’s statement: Religion
> is OPIUM, atheists abroad oppressed generations using
> the same statement; bringing people to poverty, mess and
> depressive life style.

What I find particularly shameful is the total ignorance you have of
history, the total ignorance you have of atheism, and the way that you
use the words "atheism" and "communism" interchangably, as though all
atheist have to be communists, as well. Get out of the 1950's and into
the 1990's. Joe McArthy is dead -- and he was a moron when he was alive.
Get yourself an education, becuase you are seriously out of touch with
reality.

> As we are leaving 20th century the
> atheists’ opression left in it the most significant facts

> of history. Anyone who has a little common sense would
> forget atheism! After all you are just communist puppets,
> hypocrats and relict of 20th century on which we spit.

I believe you meant to use the term "hypocrites". Hypocrat is not really
a word. If you're so smart, why do you have such bad grammar and
spelling?

Anyway, if you insist on maintaining your statements about atheism and
communism, at least have the common sense and decency to back them up
with historical facts. Name names. Supply examples. The bizarre version
of history that you present is not "common knowledge" as most trolls
like yourself will claim. It is "common idiocy". Go back to school.
Crack open the books, instead of your butt, and educate yourself,
instead of spewing your idiotic, ignorant, and assinine garbage all over
the newsgroups.

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Mark David Biesiada

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On 12 Apr 1997 si...@rsgis.tamu.edu wrote:

>=20
> THE MOPPETs OF COMMUNISTS
> =09Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwashing.
But very different from religious brainwashing, thank heavens.

> No matter how much are atheists here trying to distinguish=20
> themselves from Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Fidel Castro=20
Mainly because I'm not a commnist, I'm not dead, and...

> and the same atheistic doctrines. They speak about freedom


> but, in fact, atheism is a mind controlling atrategy,

You have yet to distinguish this from religion...

> =09Communists and Atheists, particularly like their


> image to be linked with sciences and education. This is
> supposed to be their main instrument to show that they
> operate on HIGHER level , than the ordinary believers

> and hence they know the =91truth=92. This sophisticated game
Those darn facts keep getting in the way...

> only indicates their insecurity. After all the atheists

Insecure? What are you doing here?

> here hold on an old Karl Marx=92s a claim that religion is
> an opium whereas atheism is scientifically sounded.=20
I've read that "Placebo" would have been a better word. Opium works.

> Religion is, however, still here, strong than ever,

If it's strong (er?) than ever, why all of the fear about atheists running
the world, I wish we did...=20

> Hitler did the same with the Jews. Here the criteria was=20
Here you actually PROVE that theists can be just as bad as atheists.

> workers, intelligent people are dumped out. The communist atheist

> were at least professionals Atheist on this network look like=20
> amateurs, or like their puppets. Millions of people were=20
How can I be the puppet of a dead man? People like you hurt your cause.

> kept in touch with a religious person. Ten years of taking=20


> away the basic human rights to believe.

And the basic human right to ignore reason for want of security.

> =09 The time is gone you lost. Let me tell you what
> people could not tell you there before: We spit on you=20
I stopped spiting on people at age five. I grew up, and started solving
problems rationally, instead of crying. I encourage you to do the same.

> atheists in the name of those millions who were tortured,=20
> killed, lost jobs fired, oppressed just because they=20
> believed in God. And you did nothing! You were only=20
Sounds like the Holocaust. You do believe that it happened don't you?
Didn't Hitler claim that he was picking up where Christ left off? Thank
heavens the Romans stopped him.

> observing situation from safety hypocrats. For several=20
> decades your atheistic brothers tortured people behind=20
> Iron curtain. Let me tell you we spit on you-hypocrites.=20
With the Klan holding down the fort on this side of the curtain...

> While unjustness caused by atheists was being done to=20


> millions of people you did not raise your voice for freedom.

I had forgotton about how much blacklist would have helped the good ol' US
of A

> We are not speaking about middle ages where you would like=20
but you sure would like to go back... oh sweet inquisition!

> depressive life style. As we are leaving 20th century the=20
Next stop: The Dark Ages!!=20

> of history. Anyone who has a little common sense would=20
> forget atheism! After all you are just communist puppets,=20
Anyone with a lot would remember it.

> hypocrats and relict of 20th century on which we spit. =20
>=20
> peter
>=20
>=20
Always loving the sinner and hating the sin. The point is that people of
all denominations have killed others. Religion is just like Marge Schott
said, "it started out good, just went too far". One needn't blame a
doctrine for mass murder, for human stupidity is the only ingredient
necessary. Communists threatened people that were a threat to their
doctrine. Religions do the same. I you speak as foolishly as you write,
I encourage you to spit, for it is the most intelligent thing you can do
with your mouth.
Sincerely,
Mark Biesiada
mb24...@oak.cats.ohiou.edu

Jack of Hearts

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Michelle Malkin wrote:
> =

> si...@rsgis.tamu.edu wrote:
> =

> >THE MOPPETs OF COMMUNISTS
> > Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwa=
shing.
> > Using the same set of arguments, language and scoffery the communists=

> >=91successfully=92 oppressed and whipped out the lives of millions of =


people
> > in the Eastern Europe, before they all went to misery in 1990.

> >The life is a paradox, while atheists in the Eastern Europe trashed
> >their journals (scientific atheism, atheist, etc.), the atheists in
> >this country are approximately 50 - 70 years behind their
> >Eastern European colleagues.

> >No matter how much are atheists here trying to distinguish

> >themselves from Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Fidel Castro
> >and other communists, they have the same spirit, logic,

> >and the same atheistic doctrines. They speak about freedom
> > but, in fact, atheism is a mind controlling atrategy,

> > a perversion, in essence, of a totalitarian charge.

> > Communists and Atheists, particularly like their
> > image to be linked with sciences and education. This is
> > supposed to be their main instrument to show that they
> > operate on HIGHER level , than the ordinary believers
> > and hence they know the =91truth=92. This sophisticated game

> > only indicates their insecurity. After all the atheists

> > here hold on an old Karl Marx=92s a claim that religion is
> > an opium whereas atheism is scientifically sounded.

> >Religion is, however, still here, strong than ever,

> > but Karl Marx is not. Using exactly same =91opium=92


> >atheists in the Eastern Europe oppressed people for
> >decades and created labor camps full of religious people.

> >Hitler did the same with the Jews. Here the criteria was
> >the race there the criteria was FAITH. Discrimination of
> >believers in atheistic system was fully compatible to the
> >nazistic discrimination. The race was just replaced by

> >those =93who studied, read the bible of evolution, worshipped


> >Darwin and have some vague imagination about science.

> >On one hand there were educated and progress loving class
> > of atheists which deserved the highest positions in the

> >country, on the other side was a group of =93backwards=94


> >in God believing people who deserved to be persecuted,
> >robbed and killed.

> >. Atheists=92 are just puppets of communists. We live


> > in a historical time in which Eastern Europe dumped out atheism.

> > All these fine journals, books theories forced on children,

> >workers, intelligent people are dumped out. The communist atheist
> > were at least professionals Atheist on this network look like

> >amateurs, or like their puppets. Millions of people were
> >threatened by atheism, they could not sleep, could not relax
> > in jobs because one question totally destroyed their life:
> >DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD? Ten years of prison just because one

> >kept in touch with a religious person. Ten years of taking

> >away the basic human rights to believe.

> > The time is gone you lost. Let me tell you what
> > people could not tell you there before: We spit on you

> >atheists in the name of those millions who were tortured,

> >killed, lost jobs fired, oppressed just because they

> >believed in God. And you did nothing! You were only

> >observing situation from safety hypocrats. For several

> >decades your atheistic brothers tortured people behind

> >Iron curtain. Let me tell you we spit on you-hypocrites.

> >While unjustness caused by atheists was being done to

> >millions of people you did not raise your voice for freedom.

> >We are not speaking about middle ages where you would like
> >to point your finger at, we are speaking about present modern

> > age of technology and overall progress. This makes it


> >particularly shameful. While you were enjoying life on

> >freedom and still using Karl Marx=92s statement: Religion


> > is OPIUM, atheists abroad oppressed generations using
> >the same statement; bringing people to poverty, mess and

> >depressive life style. As we are leaving 20th century the

> >atheists=92 opression left in it the most significant facts


> >of history. Anyone who has a little common sense would

> >forget atheism! After all you are just communist puppets,

> >hypocrats and relict of 20th century on which we spit.
> =

> >peter

It is human nature to torture & control others. aka MONARCHY

gra...@ix.netcom.com

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On 12 Apr 1997 22:55:45 GMT, si...@rsgis.tamu.edu wrote:

>
>THE MOPPETs OF COMMUNISTS
> Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwashing.
> Using the same set of arguments, language and scoffery the communists ...

[[SNIP to the rest, and assuming this is not just a troll:

Dear Peter: Let me put this in the same calm and reasonable language
as your post: you're full of shit. I'm an atheist. If you want to
know exactly what I think of communism, pick up the book "The People's
Almanac of the 20th Century" (Little-Brown, 1995). Read the article
"Genocide Under Stalin." I wrote it.]]

John McCoy

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Michelle Malkin (malk...@mindspring.com) wrote:
: si...@rsgis.tamu.edu wrote:


: >THE MOPPETs OF COMMUNISTS
: > Arguments of atheists are very similar to the communist brainwashing.
: > Using the same set of arguments, language and scoffery the communists

: >‘successfully’ oppressed and whipped out the lives of millions of people


: > in the Eastern Europe, before they all went to misery in 1990.
: >The life is a paradox, while atheists in the Eastern Europe trashed
: >their journals (scientific atheism, atheist, etc.), the atheists in
: >this country are approximately 50 - 70 years behind their
: >Eastern European colleagues.
: >No matter how much are atheists here trying to distinguish
: >themselves from Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Fidel Castro
: >and other communists, they have the same spirit, logic,
: >and the same atheistic doctrines. They speak about freedom
: > but, in fact, atheism is a mind controlling atrategy,
: > a perversion, in essence, of a totalitarian charge.
: > Communists and Atheists, particularly like their
: > image to be linked with sciences and education. This is
: > supposed to be their main instrument to show that they
: > operate on HIGHER level , than the ordinary believers

: > and hence they know the ‘truth’. This sophisticated game


: > only indicates their insecurity. After all the atheists

: > here hold on an old Karl Marx’s a claim that religion is


: > an opium whereas atheism is scientifically sounded.
: >Religion is, however, still here, strong than ever,

: > but Karl Marx is not. Using exactly same ‘opium’
: >atheists in the Eastern Europe oppressed people for

: >decades and created labor camps full of religious people.
: >Hitler did the same with the Jews. Here the criteria was
: >the race there the criteria was FAITH. Discrimination of
: >believers in atheistic system was fully compatible to the
: >nazistic discrimination. The race was just replaced by

: >those “who studied, read the bible of evolution, worshipped

: >Darwin and have some vague imagination about science.
: >On one hand there were educated and progress loving class
: > of atheists which deserved the highest positions in the

: >country, on the other side was a group of “backwards”
: >in God believing people who deserved to be persecuted,
: >robbed and killed.
: >. Atheists’ are just puppets of communists. We live


: > in a historical time in which Eastern Europe dumped out atheism.
: > All these fine journals, books theories forced on children,
: >workers, intelligent people are dumped out. The communist atheist
: > were at least professionals Atheist on this network look like
: >amateurs, or like their puppets. Millions of people were
: >threatened by atheism, they could not sleep, could not relax
: > in jobs because one question totally destroyed their life:
: >DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD? Ten years of prison just because one
: >kept in touch with a religious person. Ten years of taking
: >away the basic human rights to believe.
: > The time is gone you lost. Let me tell you what
: > people could not tell you there before: We spit on you
: >atheists in the name of those millions who were tortured,
: >killed, lost jobs fired, oppressed just because they
: >believed in God. And you did nothing! You were only
: >observing situation from safety hypocrats. For several
: >decades your atheistic brothers tortured people behind
: >Iron curtain. Let me tell you we spit on you-hypocrites.
: >While unjustness caused by atheists was being done to
: >millions of people you did not raise your voice for freedom.
: >We are not speaking about middle ages where you would like
: >to point your finger at, we are speaking about present modern
: > age of technology and overall progress. This makes it
: >particularly shameful. While you were enjoying life on

: >freedom and still using Karl Marx’s statement: Religion


: > is OPIUM, atheists abroad oppressed generations using
: >the same statement; bringing people to poverty, mess and
: >depressive life style. As we are leaving 20th century the

: >atheists’ opression left in it the most significant facts

: >of history. Anyone who has a little common sense would
: >forget atheism! After all you are just communist puppets,
: >hypocrats and relict of 20th century on which we spit.

: >peter

Thanks for that anaylysis peter. You forgot to mention that the atheists
on the ng. use the same tactics of communists. Just like the KKK is a
stooge of the commie/humanistic left, so do atheists pose as theists on
this ng spouting strawmen nonsense which the very same atheists will tear
into.

: Aside from your troll being pure nonsense, your spelling stinks.

: Mickey
: _______________________________________________________


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