-DreamSky
There is supposed to be announcement sometime this week (or is it next?). The
Big N and Square are holding a press conference...
-Neo
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end jose...@sympatico.ca (Joseph Lo)
I hope they do. I hope they can finally put all differences aside and
forget about the past. I hope that both Nintendo and Square remember
what happened on 9-11-01 and finally see that their stupid little cold
war against each other is insignificant when compared to real problems.
I hope both of them finally realize that what's important is that gamers
are happy and many millions of gamers will be happy if what you
suggested were to occur.
I can't contend that at all, as much as I believe I could if I checked the
proper channels. Square has, however, already confirmed FF 11 and 12 are
going to be on PS2, and all of their current remake plans for handhelds are
going to the WonderSwan. If a GC project was announced, it's got quite some
time to it.
Square Nintendo Deal?
Gamecube: Rumors are beginning to surface suggesting that Square and Nintendo
will announce some kind of deal in the next week.
File this one under rumor for the time being, but several sites have reported
that Square will hold a press conference with Nintendo next week. The reports
include the words Square, Gamecube and Final Fantasy.
We'll keep you posted should any deals be announced.
-Neo
Can I have a link to one of these sites?
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o.O what the hell? I hope you stop using 9-11 as any kind of excuse for
anything. It doesn't even make sense that a terrorist attack on a country
that is neither company's base of operations would influence any rivalry
that Yamauchi might have.
Besides, by that logic Square and Nintendo should team up to make an RPG
about getting rid of drugs, alcohol, knives, and smoking. Because those are
real problems, and what's important is that we get gamers to stop doing all
that.
--Parasyte
1 year with DIni
Sure thing.
My mistake it was IGN/FGN on September 17th (not gaming age)...
<A HREF="http://www.fgnonline.com/nintendo/news/19948.html">FGN: Square
Nintendo Deal?</A>
-Neo
It's really odd that they're the only ones that have reported this, as it
would be quite major news in the RPG community. But you're quite right, it
is there. We'll see in a week.
>o.O what the hell? I hope you stop using 9-11
>as any kind of excuse for anything. It doesn't
>even make sense that a terrorist attack on a
>country that is neither company's base of
>operations would influence any rivalry that
>Yamauchi might have.
Whatever. If I were in a meeting with the CEO of Square and Sony, i'd
say the same thing that I posted right in their face. Why wouldn't
saying that influence them? Why wouldn't 9-11-01's events effect them?
Are you saying that Square and Nintendo immune to those issues? Your
comments demonstrate that you do not fully conceive what happened that
day. People will change, companies will change, attitudes will change.
You make it seem as if this tragedy is over when you say "It doesn't
even make sense that a terrorist attack on a country that is neither
company's base of operations..." when it is not over because the same
thing, something simiar, or something worse could happen anywhere at any
moment at any time. Please understand the significance of what happened
to understand what I meant.
>Besides, by that logic Square and Nintendo
>should team up to make an RPG about
>getting rid of drugs, alcohol, knives, and
>smoking. Because those are real problems,
>and what's important is that we get gamers to
>stop doing all that.
>--Parasyte
>1 year with DIni
Those are seperate issues. Were talking about Square and Nintendo
finally teaming up to make another ordinary Final Fantasy game. Were not
talking about getting rid off the world's problems through Square and
Sony.
I do understand the significance of what happened. People don't change;
companies do, when they're bought out. Any changes that are going into
things now (Spider-Man movie having WTC taken out, MGS2 having a scene
involving WTC taken out) are just companies covering their own ass so they
don't lose more money than they already will. The only real difference that
I can see is lots of legislation going through Congress to try and take away
freedoms.
I could go on, but suffice to say that while many persons may change, people
will not, and companies even less.
--parasyte
1 year with Dini
What changes there are certainly won't be any kind of great unifying
message. I mean really, it's completely irrelevant to what they do. I
certainly don't mean to take away from what happened, but to say it's going
to create a feeling of unity and solve all world problems is incredibly
Hollywood. Certainly there will be changes, but as Parasyte put simply
enough, everyone will cover their own ass by NOT showing the WTC in games
and movies. That'll be about the sum of it as far as the video game
industry is concerned.
>I do understand the significance of what
>happened.
No you don't, neither do I. The aftermath of the situation has affected
companies ways that most wont fully understand. Do you realize that the
United States' economy has shrunk trillions of dollars? The weakening
economy could be a great incentive for Square and Nintendo cooperate
with each other.
My hunch says that Square and Nintendo will make a game. FF X will
possibly be ported to the Gamecube. You'll see.
>People don't change; companies do, when
>they're bought out. Any changes that are
>going into things now (Spider-Man movie
>having WTC taken out, MGS2 having a scene
>involving WTC taken out) are just companies
>covering their own ass so they don't lose
>more money than they already will.
Those are direct ways that things are changing. Here we go again with
the ways that things are directly affected. You really think this is
over don't you?
>The only real difference that I can see is lots
>of legislation going through Congress to try
>and take away freedoms.
So what do you want? You want everyone to be free to get on a plane with
anything?
>I could go on, but suffice to say that while
>many persons may change, people will not,
>and companies even less.
>--parasyte
>1 year with Dini
We'll see.
Obviously the economy has taken a hit; however, that's more with travel
industries. You can't tell me people are buying that many fewer things,
because it's not true. People aren't taking trips, aren't gambling, aren't
staying in hotels. People are still buying things. Maybe a few less luxuries
as we've for the moment started being hypocrites and donated a lot (not that
it isn't good, but people should do it more often. Even just giving blood.
Even a $5 donation every month or two. When I get a job I'll start donating
regularly)
And the economy didn't have trillions of dollars to shrink. Last I checked,
total liquid assets of the whole US was around 6 trillion dollars.
Besides, the weakening economy in the USA has no relation to the economy in
Japan, where all real development of new Square games takes place.
> >People don't change; companies do, when
> >they're bought out. Any changes that are
> >going into things now (Spider-Man movie
> >having WTC taken out, MGS2 having a scene
> >involving WTC taken out) are just companies
> >covering their own ass so they don't lose
> >more money than they already will.
>
> Those are direct ways that things are changing. Here we go again with
> the ways that things are directly affected. You really think this is
> over don't you?
>
"Fight the terrorists as though there were no rules; run society as though
there were no terrorists"
> >The only real difference that I can see is lots
> >of legislation going through Congress to try
> >and take away freedoms.
>
> So what do you want? You want everyone to be free to get on a plane with
> anything?
That's not what I said. I was comfortable with where the balance stood. I'm
not comfortable with outlawing encryption. Most of the new airline
restrictions are totally fine by me (e.g. having to check any bag with any
kind of razor or blade or anything else deadly). However, if wiretap powers
get expanded, or anything else that will allow the government to more easily
spy on its own citizens - that's where I draw the line.
>Obviously the economy has taken a hit;
>however, that's more with travel industries.
Yes, that IS with the travel industries. However, when 100,000 people
which have been layed off apply for unemployment, all prices are gonna
go up. Rent, light, gas, etc. will go up because the US has to pay
100,000 more people that are out of work (i'm assuming that all the lay
offs within the air line industry are for US workers). When the crisis
of paying 100,000+ people out of work occurs, the news about the
weakening economy will persist. With Christmas coming soon, I think that
people will have a little bell inside their heads that'll constantly
tell them "weakening economy, weakening economy" and I doubt that alot
of parents will satisfy alot of kids.
>You can't tell me people are buying that many
>fewer things, because it's not true.
Where are you? Japan? Although the US needs alittle money spending from
people right about now, the general concensus is: save money. I've seen
stories in the news about people who were planning on getting married
and buying a house and they simply didn't want to risk the debt right
now due to the uncertain future.
>People aren't taking trips, aren't gambling,
>aren't staying in hotels.
That's true.
>People are still buying things.
That's also true. I think that people wont buy as much though.
>Maybe a few less luxuries as we've for the
>moment started being hypocrites and donated
>a lot (not that it isn't good, but people should
>do it more often. Even just giving blood. Even
>a $5 donation every month or two. When I get
>a job I'll start donating regularly)
>And the economy didn't have trillions of dollars
>to shrink.
That's what I heard. They said trillions of dollars.
>Last I checked, total liquid assets of the whole
>US was around 6 trillion dollars.
>Besides, the weakening economy in the USA
>has no relation to the economy in Japan,
>where all real development of new Square
>games takes place.
>"Fight the terrorists as though there were no
>rules; run society as though there were no
>terrorists"
>That's not what I said. I was comfortable with
>where the balance stood. I'm not comfortable
>with outlawing encryption. Most of the new
>airline restrictions are totally fine by me (e.g.
>having to check any bag with any kind of
>razor or blade or anything else deadly).
>However, if wiretap powers get expanded, or
>anything else that will allow the government
>to more easily spy on its own citizens - that's
>where I draw the line.
Oh, that's nothing. I've heard that they have the technology to freeze
your picture from a videocamera and immediately compare anyone's picture
to a computer's database and they'll know who you are within seconds.
Actually, they've been using that technology in casinos for quite some
time already to identify known cheaters so they can observe those people
carefully. Go figure, they have the best technology at CASINOS first.
No, Americans don't buy Japanese things like video games. What are you
thinking?