Jan 11, 9:15 PM
Carl Byrns
On Jan 11, 9:15 PM EST , please join me and raise a glass to Robert.
I've got a bottle of my homebrew Porter set aside for the occasion.
This year will be a bit different for me- my Sainted mother-in-law
left this world Monday night.
I really hate January.
-Carl
Neil Ellwood
You have my sympathy. Please pass my condolences to your good lady.
--
Neil
Delete delete to get address
Brian Lawson
I'm with you. Has anybody kept in touch with Ellen? Last year she
was having troubles concerning the sale of the company. Wonder how
she's doing now?
Take care.
Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.
ps... unless I missed a bunch of postings to the contrary, it's been a
pretty good "self-preservation" year here on RCM and modeleng-list.
Boy, around the time t-nut left, there were four or five other good
guys went too. Hope 2004 doesn't beat 2003 that way!
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:25:03 GMT, Carl Byrns <carl....@verizon.net>
wrote:
Tim Williams
news:otfovvkfgrce9i54g...@4ax.com...
> It's time one again to honor teenut's crossing over to the other side.
> On Jan 11, 9:15 PM EST , please join me and raise a glass to Robert.
> I've got a bottle of my homebrew Porter set aside for the occasion.
Um... I think we have some root beer.. guess I'll have a glass for old
friends eh? (Not like I knew him, but it's a good excuse to have some! :)
Also in Jan, looks like this makes it four years I've been here!
> This year will be a bit different for me- my Sainted mother-in-law
> left this world Monday night.
My condolances as well.
Tim
--
"That's for the courts to decide." - Homer Simpson
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms
Sunworshiper
wrote:
>Hey Carl,
>
>I'm with you. Has anybody kept in touch with Ellen? Last year she
>was having troubles concerning the sale of the company. Wonder how
>she's doing now?
>
>Take care.
>
>Brian Lawson,
>Bothwell, Ontario.
>
>ps... unless I missed a bunch of postings to the contrary, it's been a
>pretty good "self-preservation" year here on RCM and modeleng-list.
>Boy, around the time t-nut left, there were four or five other good
>guys went too. Hope 2004 doesn't beat 2003 that way!
Here's to teenut and all. I was brain storming this morning about
drilling through irregular rock and inaccessable areas and thought of
Peter? in Wis. flaming through granite. Anyone know how to do that and
what kind of support systems are needed? I'm sure his site is'nt
still up even if I could remember his name. What is the proccess
called ?
Jim & Hils
A toast to teenut will happen here, too.
Sunworshiper, I believe you are thinking of Peter Drumm. I did a Google
search for Peter Drumm Granite and had a few threads come up.
Cheers,
Jim
"Sunworshiper" <mattso...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1q2pvvc0d5hk1je4e...@4ax.com...
Grant Erwin
quit yammering about crap like politics! The percentage of articles on topic
has dropped to an all-time low. This place used to have some sense of dignity
and pride, as if people with integrity and intelligence frequented it. Now
I'm not so sure ..
Grant Erwin
Kirkland, Washington
The Davenports
I saw offers of raising a toast to a fallen friend...concern about his
widow...one gentleman lamenting the loss of his mother-in-law...something
about flaming thru granite...and the closeest I could find to politics was
refering to a "saintly" being(Sorry, Carl...she may be, just trying to make
a point here)
Unless I missed something that's in code, no politics
Mike
"Grant Erwin" <grant...@kirkland.net> wrote in message
news:vvp9g8i...@corp.supernews.com...
jim rozen
>
>If you guys don't want "senior members" to leave this NG in disgust, then
>quit yammering about crap like politics! The percentage of articles on topic
>has dropped to an all-time low. This place used to have some sense of dignity
>and pride, as if people with integrity and intelligence frequented it. Now
>I'm not so sure ..
Grant I have to agree with the sentiment - although I think
that on the whole, this particular ng has an amazingly high
quotient of on topic posts, compared with the rest of usenet.
This may be partly due to folks like you who do object to
off topic stuff, and partly from the fact that what's
'on topic' here tends to be really, really diverse!
Anyway here's to Robert.
<hoist>
Regards - Jim
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Carl Byrns
<dav...@charter.net> wrote:
>Ummmm...Grant??? Where was politics mentioned?
>
>I saw offers of raising a toast to a fallen friend...concern about his
>widow...one gentleman lamenting the loss of his mother-in-law...something
>about flaming thru granite...and the closeest I could find to politics was
>refering to a "saintly" being (Sorry, Carl...she may be, just trying to make
>a point here)
>
>Unless I missed something that's in code, no politics
>
>Mike
I must have missed it too- I don't see a shred of politics anywhere.
-Carl
Sunworshiper
<grant...@kirkland.net> wrote:
>If you guys don't want "senior members" to leave this NG in disgust, then
>quit yammering about crap like politics! The percentage of articles on topic
>has dropped to an all-time low. This place used to have some sense of dignity
>and pride, as if people with integrity and intelligence frequented it. Now
>I'm not so sure ..
>
>Grant Erwin
>Kirkland, Washington
This sounds like a personal slam to me. To you I just yammer about
politics , don't post on topic , have no dignity , no pride, no
integrity , & no intelligence ? LOL ! Ok let's not hear another
thing about your boat ! You want a peice of me Grant ? Go for it ,
you can do better than the above. I'd like to know your view for sure
before I say what's on my mind.
If you where just looking for a place to spout off about off topic
stuff and how it ruins RCM then leave me out of it.
jim rozen
>I must have missed it too- I don't see a shred of politics anywhere.
Grant was just expressing a 'watchdog' sentiment, I think.
Teenut himself had been known to engage in some of the OT
threads I recall.
Glenn Lyford
> rock and inaccessable areas and thought of Peter? in Wis. flaming
> through granite. Anyone know how to do that and what kind of support
http://metalworking.com/RCM-gallery/files/Drumm,Peter/
I found this on a website on making memorials:
Granite is cut from the "bed" of the quarry with a jet piercing machine
that produces a flame burning at approximately 3,000 degrees Farenheit.
This high-velocity flame, created by burning oxygen and fuel oil, is
directed at the granite to be removed, causing a continuous flaking action.
As the flame nozzle is moved up and down, a channel is created around large
sections in the quarry.
Was that the gadget you were thinking of? A web search for
"jet piercing granite" turned up a lot of hits...
HTH,
--Glenn Lyford
Jim Kovar
mattso...@earthlink.net says...
> Here's to teenut and all. I was brain storming this morning about
> drilling through irregular rock and inaccessable areas and thought of
> Peter? in Wis. flaming through granite. Anyone know how to do that and
> what kind of support systems are needed? I'm sure his site is'nt
> still up even if I could remember his name. What is the proccess
> called ?
Hi Brad, wasn't Peter using a wire saw to cut with? Anyway, it was
Peter Drumm.
As for Teenut, I'm going over to Spread Eagle to purchase six
Newcastle Brown's. I miss him.
Went thru Beecher the other day, stopped ay Mary's Place for lunch.
Nothing new in Beecher!
Jim Kovar
Vulcan, Mi
Sunworshiper
wrote:
Yes, thanks. I can never come up with the right key words.
I've been eyeing a section of BLM land for solar trackers and they
will not like giving up relatively flat land , so I was thinking about
the mountain slopes. But, to get a drilling rig up to and stable on a
slope and go through unknown angles of rock would be very cost
prohibitive plus a small hole. If one could feed the noozzle with
hoses it would be easier to plunge a number of holes with minimal
support for each operation and a larger hole. Kinda like the wind
mills they have on mountain slopes with less cost per foundation.
I asked Pete about mining with it and he said it wasn't really for
blind holes. I would think the heat coming back at the nozzle would
burn itself up, but the idea is still intriguing.
Sunworshiper
<jko...@NOSPAMchartermi.net> wrote:
>In article <1q2pvvc0d5hk1je4e...@4ax.com>,
>mattso...@earthlink.net says...
>> Here's to teenut and all. I was brain storming this morning about
>> drilling through irregular rock and inaccessable areas and thought of
>> Peter? in Wis. flaming through granite. Anyone know how to do that and
>> what kind of support systems are needed? I'm sure his site is'nt
>> still up even if I could remember his name. What is the proccess
>> called ?
>
> Hi Brad, wasn't Peter using a wire saw to cut with? Anyway, it was
>Peter Drumm.
I'm sure he was doing that also , but he was burning through it. Said
it was very very loud. I wanted to ask him more about it , but ...
> As for Teenut, I'm going over to Spread Eagle to purchase six
>Newcastle Brown's. I miss him.
I use to have an 800 beer can collection and drank 1/3 of them. I
couldn't tell you what the best is. All I know is that it has to be
cold or I won't drink it.
> Went thru Beecher the other day, stopped ay Mary's Place for lunch.
>Nothing new in Beecher!
The big T intersection? :o) You should get a hold of those people I
told ya about. One is down here at the moment. Brrr , heard that a
snow storm just went through. Someday my wife will drag me back up to
Siberia for a visit.
> Jim Kovar
> Vulcan, Mi
Carl Byrns
wrote:
>In article <dlepvv87rghcfs19a...@4ax.com>, Carl Byrns says...
>
>>I must have missed it too- I don't see a shred of politics anywhere.
>
>Grant was just expressing a 'watchdog' sentiment, I think.
>
>Teenut himself had been known to engage in some of the OT
>threads I recall.
>
Seemed to me it was pretty strongly worded for sentiment.
"If you guys don't want "senior members" to leave this NG in disgust,
then
quit yammering about crap like politics! The percentage of articles on
topic
has dropped to an all-time low. This place used to have some sense of
dignity
and pride, as if people with integrity and intelligence frequented it.
Now
I'm not so sure .."
Hey Grant!
People come and go an a NG all the time- if you were to dig up the
original charter for RCM (I did), I'll bet you won't find anyone on it
who posts today (I couldn't).
Senority doesn't count for very much- one of the most prolific RCM
posters was Alt*v*z and OT seems to be a fact of RCM life (like, um,
Gunner).
If you're leaving- leave! No one will miss you (remember Mike II or
Mike Graham or Pete Albrecht or...).
-Carl
Gunner
wrote:
>It's time one again to honor teenut's crossing over to the other side.
>On Jan 11, 9:15 PM EST , please join me and raise a glass to Robert.
>I've got a bottle of my homebrew Porter set aside for the occasion.
>
One thing you and I can agree on. Hear Hear!
>This year will be a bit different for me- my Sainted mother-in-law
>left this world Monday night.
>
Sorry for your loss.
>I really hate January.
>
>
>-Carl
Gunner
"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
Unknown Usnet Poster
Heh, heh, I'm pretty sure my dog is a liberal - he has no balls.
Keyton
Grant Erwin
> Hey Grant!
>
> People come and go an a NG all the time ..
Then why complain about it? Why "lift your glass" or worry about "oh what
happened to old Joe" or whatever?
Anyway, I get real tired of the off topic postings on this NG lately. So
I sounded off about it. I didn't really mean to rain on *your* parade.
Grant
AZOTIC
>>
>>Granite is cut from the "bed" of the quarry with a jet piercing machine that
produces a flame burning at approximately 3,000 degrees Farenheit. This
high-velocity flame, created by burning oxygen and fuel oil, is directed at the
granite to be removed, causing a continuous flaking action. As the flame nozzle
is moved up and down, a channel is created around large sections in the quarry.
>>
>>Was that the gadget you were thinking of? A web search for
>>"jet piercing granite" turned up a lot of hits...
>>
>>HTH,
>> --Glenn Lyford
>
>Yes, thanks. I can never come up with the right key words.
>
>I've been eyeing a section of BLM land for solar trackers and they
>will not like giving up relatively flat land , so I was thinking about
>the mountain slopes. But, to get a drilling rig up to and stable on a
>slope and go through unknown angles of rock would be very cost
>prohibitive plus a small hole. If one could feed the noozzle with
>hoses it would be easier to plunge a number of holes with minimal
>support for each operation and a larger hole. Kinda like the wind
>mills they have on mountain slopes with less cost per foundation.
>I asked Pete about mining with it and he said it wasn't really for
>blind holes. I would think the heat coming back at the nozzle would >burn
itself up, but the idea is still intriguing.
>
You also should take a look at burning bars, as i understand they
can also be used to cut thru rock and concrete and they are fairly
cheap. The ones i have seen in a welding supply house are basicly
1/8" black iron water pipe with one end threaded to accept a ball valve that
controls the oxygen flow up to the burning end. They are very easy to use, you
just heat up the business end with a torch until
it gets white hot and then you open the oxygen valve and the bar
burns by its self once its started. The ones i seen were about
12 foot long and they fellow in the welding store told me they sell
them to foundry's. Might be worth trying on your project if you
can rig up a small one to experiment with.
Best Regards
Tom.
jim rozen
>If you're leaving- leave! No one will miss you (remember Mike II or
>Mike Graham or Pete Albrecht or...).
I thought mike II was still a regular here...
Statics
> On Jan 11, 9:15 PM EST , please join me and raise a glass to Robert.
> I've got a bottle of my homebrew Porter set aside for the occasion.
Here's to teenut, Robert Bastow. Anyone know what became of his large bore
Mauser project? (I mostly lurked back then)
> This year will be a bit different for me- my Sainted mother-in-law
> left this world Monday night.
Sorry for your loss Carl.
Carl Byrns
wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:25:03 GMT, Carl Byrns <carl....@verizon.net>
>wrote:
>
>>It's time one again to honor teenut's crossing over to the other side.
>>On Jan 11, 9:15 PM EST , please join me and raise a glass to Robert.
>>I've got a bottle of my homebrew Porter set aside for the occasion.
>>
>One thing you and I can agree on. Hear Hear!
>
It would be boring otherwise.
>
>>This year will be a bit different for me- my Sainted mother-in-law
>>left this world Monday night.
>>
>Sorry for your loss.
Thanks.
>"Aren't cats Libertarian? They just want to be left alone.
>I think our dog is a Democrat, as he is always looking for a handout"
> Unknown Usnet Poster
My cat's on Medicare- she whines until she gets what she wants.
-Carl
Carl Byrns
wrote:
>In article <ucppvv8uge69ttq8j...@4ax.com>, Carl Byrns says...
>
>>If you're leaving- leave! No one will miss you (remember Mike II or
>>Mike Graham or Pete Albrecht or...).
>
>I thought mike II was still a regular here...
>
>Jim
Beats me- one of the Mikes left in a snit after someone e-mailed him a
picture of a Osama Bin Asshole lookalike sodomizing a goat.
-Carl
Carl Byrns
<grant...@kirkland.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey Grant!
>>
>> People come and go an a NG all the time ..
>
>Then why complain about it? Why "lift your glass" or worry about "oh what
>happened to old Joe" or whatever?
>
Well, a bunch of us liked to sit at the feet of a master machinist and
learn from him. Now he's gone and we do this -world wide- to honor his
memory. This NG is the best tool available to me to get the word out.
Imagine- people toasting your name all around the globe at the same
time.
Kind of neat.
>Anyway, I get real tired of the off topic postings on this NG lately. So
>I sounded off about it. I didn't really mean to rain on *your* parade.
>
Well, Gunner's OT posts get under my skin at times, but now I ignore
98% of what he posts. No one's holding a gun to you're head and
forcing you to read any of it.
-Carl
Ellen Bratton
2003.
He is a great guy - so much like Robert it is uncanny. You don't know
how hard this time of year is for me. I can't believe he has been
gone going on 3 years. I still think about him everyday. He was one
of a kind. Anyway, an update. I sold the business to our friend who
managed the shop while Robert was so sick. He turned out to be a
crook- lost almost everything. He had sold off most of the equipment
and left the older lathes and mills. When he was evicted for not
paying the rent -I got a call from the owner that all the machines
were going to be put on the street-- remember these machines must
weigh 500-1000 pounds. We were able to "sell" off the rest of the
machines - lump sum. We sued "my friend" and are currently in a
"settlement" situation. I'm sure he won't meet the terms of the
settlement. I was able to find great homes for Robert's personal
machines. As far as the mauser action goes, I have all of Robert's
plans, notes, and prototype. I even have names of some guys that
would be willing to make it. I will have at least one made - he had
the material for the stock. I meet a wonderful man, Dave, and we
married in June. I didn't think I would ever be happy again, but then
I met Dave. It is like Robert sent him to take care of me. They are
so much alike. Well, I've rambled enough. Thanks for remembering
Robert and me at this time of year. I know he will be raising a glass
with us on Jan. 11, at 9:15. Ellen
"Statics" <j...@staticsinc.nospam.com> wrote in message news:<RPfLb.56866$HQ.8153@okepread02>...
jim rozen
>Beats me- one of the Mikes left in a snit after someone e-mailed him a
>picture of a Osama Bin Asshole lookalike sodomizing a goat.
LOL. I remember that. I *wonder* who that might have been...
One of the mikes was, at one time, a mulligan(2), after I gave
up being 'mulligan' from dejanews. I could be wrong here,
but I seem to recall that mikeII, ohmwork, and mulligan(2)
were all the same person, who I always associate with
mikee (eberline?)
Alan Moore
wrote:
>Hey, This is Ellen Bratton - yes new name - I remarried on June 12,
>2003.
Well, Congratulations! Yes, life goes on.
>He is a great guy - so much like Robert it is uncanny. You don't know
>how hard this time of year is for me. I can't believe he has been
>gone going on 3 years. I still think about him everyday. He was one
>of a kind. Anyway, an update. I sold the business to our friend who
>managed the shop while Robert was so sick. He turned out to be a
>crook- lost almost everything. He had sold off most of the equipment
>and left the older lathes and mills. When he was evicted for not
>paying the rent -I got a call from the owner that all the machines
>were going to be put on the street-- remember these machines must
>weigh 500-1000 pounds. We were able to "sell" off the rest of the
>machines - lump sum. We sued "my friend" and are currently in a
>"settlement" situation. I'm sure he won't meet the terms of the
>settlement.
Darn! Sorry to hear that.
>I was able to find great homes for Robert's personal
>machines. As far as the mauser action goes, I have all of Robert's
>plans, notes, and prototype. I even have names of some guys that
>would be willing to make it. I will have at least one made - he had
>the material for the stock.
That's good to hear.
>I meet a wonderful man, Dave, and we
>married in June. I didn't think I would ever be happy again, but then
>I met Dave. It is like Robert sent him to take care of me. They are
>so much alike.
Congratulations again, like I said. I'm glad to hear things are going
well for you.
>Well, I've rambled enough. Thanks for remembering
>Robert and me at this time of year. I know he will be raising a glass
>with us on Jan. 11, at 9:15. Ellen
Drop in any time.
Al Moore
Tim Williams
news:btkrs...@drn.newsguy.com...
> One of the mikes was, at one time, a mulligan(2), after I gave
> up being 'mulligan' from dejanews. I could be wrong here,
> but I seem to recall that mikeII, ohmwork, and mulligan(2)
> were all the same person, who I always associate with
> mikee (eberline?)
Er, Bucky Mulligan? It's been a few years... ISTR something about 1.
jewish and 2. goats.
Carl Byrns
wrote:
>Hey, This is Ellen Bratton - yes new name - I remarried on June 12,
>2003.
Damn, but that is good news. All the best to you and your new hubby.
-Carl
Abrasha
Brian Lawson
Sorry to hear that you are still having some troubles with "friends"!
Sad, isn't it?
But, hearty Congratulations on your finding and marrying another great
guy!! More power to you. May you both live long and prosper.
Is Dave also interested in metalworking?
And what of the kids?? Still in the Atlanta area?
Take care. And PLEASE come back and visit here more than once a year!
Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.
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On 8 Jan 2004 16:01:18 -0800, esbr...@yahoo.com (Ellen Bratton)
wrote:
>Hey, This is Ellen Bratton - yes new name - I remarried on June 12,
DoN. Nichols
Ellen Bratton <esbr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hey, This is Ellen Bratton - yes new name - I remarried on June 12,
>2003.
>He is a great guy - so much like Robert it is uncanny.
Congratulations on that bit of good luck, at least.
> You don't know
>how hard this time of year is for me. I can't believe he has been
>gone going on 3 years. I still think about him everyday. He was one
>of a kind. Anyway, an update. I sold the business to our friend who
>managed the shop while Robert was so sick. He turned out to be a
>crook- lost almost everything. He had sold off most of the equipment
>and left the older lathes and mills.
Yes, I remember when that was happening -- just when my wife and
I were having problems with her mother's health and apartment.
> When he was evicted for not
>paying the rent -I got a call from the owner that all the machines
>were going to be put on the street-- remember these machines must
>weigh 500-1000 pounds. We were able to "sell" off the rest of the
>machines - lump sum. We sued "my friend" and are currently in a
>"settlement" situation. I'm sure he won't meet the terms of the
>settlement.
In which case -- what is the fallback solution? I presume that
something is specified by the settlement agreement.
> I was able to find great homes for Robert's personal
>machines.
Good -- those really needed good homes.
> As far as the mauser action goes, I have all of Robert's
>plans, notes, and prototype. I even have names of some guys that
>would be willing to make it. I will have at least one made - he had
>the material for the stock. I meet a wonderful man, Dave, and we
>married in June. I didn't think I would ever be happy again, but then
>I met Dave. It is like Robert sent him to take care of me. They are
>so much alike.
Very good news.
> Well, I've rambled enough. Thanks for remembering
>Robert and me at this time of year. I know he will be raising a glass
>with us on Jan. 11, at 9:15. Ellen
I'm prepared for that -- one bottle a year makes a carton last a
long time.
Best of luck with your new life.
DoN.
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