GuidoMorphosis
Foon
I've just spent a remarkable 48 hours with our newsgroup queen of stoke and
aloha, the unequaled Dee Dee. Just being in her company, as many GP2K1ers will
attest, is like being bathed in the glow of an angel. The positive and
unwavering spirit of kindness and love is almost a religious experience.
Having the privilage...no....honor of spending quality 1 on 1 time, talking
about her life and how she came to the newsgroup (I am modestly taking credit
here, just ask her) has been a serious revelation for me. You might say D2
forced me to examine my own participation and caused me to look inward to
uncover and justify call the cynicism, anger, bitterness, suspicion and negative
attitude I have felt dealing with certain members of this ng.
Having lived in Hawaii since she was four, Dee Dee grew up and in the Hawaiian
culture that embodies the spirit of aloha. In that culture there is no room for
feelings like I had. Her philosophy of finding something to love in every one
imbues her with such a wondrous halo of sweetness and love, you cannot meet her
and not love her spirit. It is the most positive force I have ever encountered.
The night she serenaded us at the GP with songs of love, companionship,
brotherhood and friendship, she woke in me the realization that I am guilty of
being a catalyst for meanness, spite, anger, and disrespect. By writing lies
about my fellow group members from the PNW, I was ignoring their membership in
the human family and seeking to make myself feel superior by denigrating their
different way of communicating. They may be different but they are no less
worthy of respect, kindness, love and gratitude.
Thanks to Dee Dee's influence and kind and gentle guidance, I can now embrace
and love my brothers from the PNW. And despite the fact they may continue to
scorn me by saying I am an old, fat,lazy, washed up, burned out, bodyboarding
poser, I can still find something to love in the fact they are my human brothers
and newsgroup friends.
So, biting a bullet here, with all the love, respect,and sincerity I can muster
with the help of Dee Dee's graceful teachings, I wish nothing but good things
and great waves for our brothers and friends from the PNW. May your life be
full of righteous smoking barrels and your souls soar like sea birds flying on
the wings of love and aloha.
Dee Dee is just getting up now and has a long drive home today. We went to
dinner last night at my favorite local place and she had a little too much to
drink, but she said she wanted to post something to you before she split. I'm
going out to buy some Pikake aroma therapy oil and some Gabby Pahinui cds she
recommended.
I love youse all.
Lei Aloha, Lei Makamae.
-Foon
Hi every one, it's Dee Dee on Foon's laptop......stoked to the max after the
fabulous and wonderful GP2K1. I'm so happy to be able to tell you what a
delightful & joyous experience the GP2K1 is.......YEAH!!!! This has been my
first vacation in several years and I want to tell you, da stokin guys of the
Tranquility Base have made it the happiest I can remember in years.
First, a big Dee Dee shout out aloha to my all my GP2K1 friends.....Rod,Ferg,
Andy, Neal, Edmund, Sarge, Todd, KC & Sveta, Lucy (Ferg's cute little surf
doggie) new daddy Myron, Foosball master...Steve, and of course the humble Foon
himself. What can I say about that man......the last two days with him, helping
him close up the TB house then driving up to the Bunker have been a true delight
and revelation.
Unfortunately he's not here right now.....he's off to the emergency clinic to
have his sinuses looked at after snorting some Pikaki aroma therapy oil from the
bottle....it's concentrated!! It's true....he's a walking catastrophe waiting to
happen!!! But we love him anyway!!! :))
I just want to thank every person at the GP2K1 for making my visit one of the
most wonderful & happy experiences of my life. The words, "thank you" alone
cannot express the huge gratitude I feel for the opportunity to be there & meet
and especially surf with you all. I love you all to the maximum of my stoked
hawaiian heart. Such wonderful people, I feel so blessed to be able to have
spent such a great time talking, and especially surfing & cooking with you all.
You are all great & mighty stoked surfers of AS in my mind!!!
Foon has been a true fount of information on this trip for me, especially the
last two days. He has patiently and gently opened my clouded eyes to what is
very wrong with this ng. Using Google archives he has shown me the cancer that
is growing in our midst, orchestrated by evil men posing in various false
profiles from the PNW. Evidence he has gathered, supplied by some who are much
smarter than him in computer matters, clearly show a malignant & meticulously
planned plot to dominate then destroy our beloved alt.surfing!!! How could we
let this happen!!!
At first I could not believe this. But the overwhelming proof, beyond a shadow
of a doubt, presented with some nice shooters of Sauza Commemerativo Anejo,
convinced me that these evil, scumsucking, bottomfeeding, cultists are Satan's
own cyberspawn, who have infiltrated our happy family like terrorists, and
spread their putrid virus, creating greenheaded, pus filled boils on the ass of
our AS surfing brotherhood!!!!!
These traitorous prickbastards are ruining our group before our very eyes. They
should be burned out and exposed for the evil, manipulating, profile-ific
monsters they are. I swear to God if I ever meet one of these clowns I will
crush his head like the peanut it is. The only pnw they'll know is one,
"PissedOff, Nasty, Wahini" from Ipswich MA!!!!
Well, having told you all that, I still would like to wish you all, except those
ignorant F***Wads from the pnw, the most stoked & happy day. Love youse all.
Lei Aloha, Lei Makamae
Dee Dee
Steve M
<snipped>
> Hi every one, it's Dee Dee on Foon's laptop......stoked to the max after the
> fabulous and wonderful GP2K1.
<snipped>
PFFHHHHHHTTTT! BWAHAHAHAHAH!.........classic.
Later,
Steve
Lemons!
> Hi every one, it's Dee Dee on Foon's laptop......stoked to the max after
the
<g> This is just about the lowest you can go, isn't it?
Forging poor little DD on the newsgroup...
> Foon has been a true fount of information on this trip for me, especially
the
> last two days. He has patiently and gently opened my clouded eyes to what
is
> very wrong with this ng. Using Google archives he has shown me the cancer
that
> is growing in our midst, orchestrated by evil men posing in various false
> profiles from the PNW. Evidence he has gathered, supplied by some who are
much
> smarter than him in computer matters, clearly show a malignant &
meticulously
> planned plot to dominate then destroy our beloved alt.surfing!!!
That's a matter of perspective...
Utah created AS and I run it. We were both here before you
and the Guida-loozers. I took a 5 year break out of contact
with all modern technology or I would of been here from the
beginning as well. Some day I'll tell you about the act of
treachery that allowed Utah to stay behind in comfort and
luxury to create AS while I labored in the woods with a heavy
backpack and a quiver of semi-guns and acres of dope...
So maybe just maybe you guys have dumbed down the NG
and ruined it for us?
Never the less, we graciously welcome you to our NG and
would never consider the alternative.
> These traitorous prickbastards are ruining our group before our very eyes.
They
> should be burned out and exposed for the evil, manipulating, profile-ific
> monsters they are. I swear to God if I ever meet one of these clowns I
will
> crush his head like the peanut it is.
<yawn>
"DD" when we meet I'm gonna take you back to my cabin in the
woods and dress you up in angel wings and a feather duster and
hook you up to a heavy duty wire and have you dust my cabin from
ceiling to floor... After you're done, the real fun begins...
Dave Blake
> "Foon" <fo...@newsguy.com> wrote
> > Hi every one, it's Dee Dee on Foon's laptop......stoked to the max after
> > the
>
> <g> This is just about the lowest you can go, isn't it?
> Forging poor little DD on the newsgroup...
That oughta be a crime. That "DeeDee" portion of Foon's post
had more bitterness in it than DeeDee has expressed in years.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
SurfSarge
>Utah created AS and I run it. We were both here before you
>and the Guida-loozers.
Congrats..2 posers that pretend to surf started a surfing NG...What an
acomplishment...
>I took a 5 year break out of contact
>with all modern technology or I would of been here from the
>beginning as well.
No one missed you I'm sure....
>Some day I'll tell you about the act of
>treachery that allowed Utah to stay behind in comfort and
>luxury to create AS while I labored in the woods with a heavy
>backpack and a quiver of semi-guns and acres of dope...
Put down the bottle boozejocky....
>So maybe just maybe you guys have dumbed down the NG
>and ruined it for us?
I really doubt that...because w/o us you are nill...
-PD
Mike Sullivan
Foon wrote:
> This is gonna be hard, so bear with me.
snip Dee Dee Profile.
> I love youse all.
>
> Lei Aloha, Lei Makamae.
>
> -Foon
>
>
snip Foon profile.
> Well, having told you all that, I still would like to wish you all, except those
> ignorant F***Wads from the pnw, the most stoked & happy day. Love youse all.
>
> Lei Aloha, Lei Makamae
>
> Dee Dee
didn't fool me one bit. Come outta there, Lem.
:^)
Mike
Foon
><g> This is just about the lowest you can go, isn't it?
>Forging poor little DD on the newsgroup...
Why no, Someone has taken a lead on the race to the bottom.
>"DD" when we meet I'm gonna take you back to my cabin in the
>woods and dress you up in angel wings and a feather duster and
>hook you up to a heavy duty wire and have you dust my cabin from
>ceiling to floor... After you're done, the real fun begins...
That better be making flower leis or singing Hawaiian songs, or you are
in big trouble.
-Ron DeEmcee
Lemons!
> Congrats..2 posers that pretend to surf started a surfing NG...What an
> acomplishment...
Slarge. Thanx for taking your head out the hairdryer
and checking in to my newsgroup...
> No one missed you I'm sure....
You missed me during GP2K1. That's why you're
back for more. You can't put down this robust
newsgroup that Utah and I have fashioned!
>
> >Some day I'll tell you about the act of
> >treachery that allowed Utah to stay behind in comfort and
> >luxury to create AS while I labored in the woods with a heavy
> >backpack and a quiver of semi-guns and acres of dope...
>
> Put down the bottle boozejocky....
Slarge. Have you ever spent a day without touching
concrete or asphalt? I didn't think so...
Beside the waves were significantly overhead. You
wouldn't be interested in the story.
> I really doubt that...because w/o us you are nill...
W/o who? You?
Slarge. You have about 2 things you can talk about
on this newsgroup. Maybe 2˝. One is dope. Two is
chix and the ˝ is surfing.
Isn't it about time you broadened your horizons?
SurfSarge
>You missed me during GP2K1. That's why you're
>back for more. You can't put down this robust
>newsgroup that Utah and I have fashioned!
No I didn't.. bro get off your high horse..You had nothing better to do then
think about how great of time we all were havn....While you was sitting home
with your bum knee... alone .
>> Put down the bottle boozejocky....
>
>Slarge. Have you ever spent a day without touching
>concrete or asphalt? I didn't think so...
Well you thought wrong treeboy....I spend dayz in a row in the high seas
somethn you wouldn't know about living hours away from the beach...
>Beside the waves were significantly overhead. You
>wouldn't be interested in the story
Sure just like all the other lame stories of how yuor such a charger....
>Slarge. You have about 2 things you can talk about
>on this newsgroup. Maybe 2½. One is dope.
So.
Two is
>chix
somethn you wouldn't know about....
>and the ½ is surfing.
Somethn I do and you don't....
>Isn't it about time you broadened your horizons?
Look who's talkn....a person who lives inland and claims to surf..phhhhh
-PD
Rocky
> This is gonna be hard, so bear with me.
>
Like they often chant on "Springer":
"Take it to OPRAH!!!!"
><><I><><
OXOMOXO
<><><><><>
el_roca
"Revenge is best served cold" - Old Chinese saying.
Foon
><snip drivel>
>
>Like they often chant on "Springer":
> "Take it to OPRAH!!!!"
You watch Springer? I took you for a VH1 guy.
-Ty Onenon
Barefoot Adventure©
[snipped entire article]
I guess that supposed to be funny, but dragging DeeDee down into the
gutter hardly seemed to be the way to get a laugh. I'm disappointed,
Foon.
--
- gw
"Prejudice / ecidujerP. Either way, it makes no sense."
Lemons!
> No I didn't.. bro get off your high horse..You had nothing better to do
then
> think about how great of time we all were havn....While you was sitting
home
> with your bum knee... alone .
Don't be afraid of being alone Shlarge.
> Well you thought wrong treeboy....I spend dayz in a row in the high seas
> somethn you wouldn't know about living hours away from the beach...
Oh yea? I can hear the waves from here. I live 2 minutes from
the beach in a house I built by myself on land I purchased...
Time for you to go pay the rent and call the cockroach patrol.
> Sure just like all the other lame stories of how yuor such a charger....
You mean the "stories" you can't help but read?
> Somethn I do and you don't....
Deep!
SurffOhio
>> Hi every one, it's Dee Dee on Foon's laptop......stoked to the max after
>the
>> fabulous and wonderful GP2K1.
>
><snipped>
>
>PFFHHHHHHTTTT! BWAHAHAHAHAH!.........classic.
>
>Later,
>Steve
Do you think this is funny, Steve?
It's pitiful.
Surff
rodNDtube
> Foon wrote:
> >> Hi every one, it's Dee Dee on Foon's laptop......stoked to the max
Hmmm ;)
Rod Rodgers
eMail: rrod...@bcpl.net
Homepage: http://www.bcpl.net/~rrodgers/rodpage1.html
GP2K1: http://www.GuidoPalooza.com
Barefoot Adventure©
dbl...@popper.ucsf.edu says...
> Lemons! <lemons@the_tree.com> scribed:
> > "SurfShlarge" <surfsh...@aol.comindabowl> wrote
>
> >> No I didn't.. bro get off your high horse..You had nothing
> >> better to do then think about how great of time we all were
> >> havn....While you was sitting home with your bum knee...
> >> alone.
> >
> > Don't be afraid of being alone Shlarge.
> >
> >> Well you thought wrong treeboy....I spend dayz in a row in the
> >> high seas somethn you wouldn't know about living hours away
> >> from the beach...
> >
> > Oh yea? I can hear the waves from here. I live 2 minutes from
> > the beach in a house I built by myself on land I purchased...
>
> Living alone, in the woods, in a house he built himself.
>
> Let's see - where have I heard that before...
>
> Hmmm....
>
> Oh yeah - The Ted Kaczynski story.
You have no idea how scarily close you are. But even TK had 4 walls.
SurfSarge
>> > "SurfShlarge"
>> > Don't be afraid of being alone Shlarge.
Yes very large...you could say shlarge it fits....I'm not afraid of being
alone....but since I'm sooo addicted to girls it's kinda hard being
alone...Only you'd know that feeling of being alone..
>> > Oh yea? I can hear the waves from here. I live 2 minutes from
>> > the beach in a house I built by myself on land I purchased...
>>
really? no way!! You're kidding right? A Lien too doesn't count! Mark said u
live over an hour away from the beach...
-PD
Lemons!
Depends on the beach. I live in the mountains also.
I get bored easy.
If you got all the materials stacked up I can build
you a 600 sq foot cabin in one month. Buy some
land in Puerto Rico and I'll show you...
"SurfSarge" <surfs...@aol.comindabowl> wrote
SurfSarge
>I get bored easy.
>
>If you got all the materials stacked up I can build
>you a 600 sq foot cabin in one month. Buy some
>land in Puerto Rico and I'll show you...
How about Costa land is cheaper people more friendly..Have you ever been to PR?
>"SurfSarge" <surfs...@aol.comindabowl> wrote
>> really? no way!! You're kidding right? A Lien too doesn't count! Mark said
>u
>> live over an hour away from the beach...
-PD
Lemons!
"SurfSarge" <surfs...@aol.comindabowl> wrote
lp
10/12/01 5:29 PM:
> This is gonna be hard, so bear with me.
the old bait and switch.
dd playing foon and foon raging as dd.
lp
Foon
> dragging DeeDee down into the
>gutter hardly seemed to be the way to get a laugh. I'm disappointed,
>Foon.
Disappointed? Sorry you missed the satire, you must be under Surffs care But
then again your addy is the PNW.Whoda thot? Dee Dee helped me write it. We
discussed it by the hot tub at the TB house. She's got the greatest sense of
humor. :) She laughs at all your joke. What year was that again? ;)
-Hal Ogenlamp
Foon
>
>Do you think this is funny, Steve?
>It's pitiful.
Now that's funny!! Considering the source.
-Lucy Ferguson
Barefoot Adventure©
I'll believe it when DeeDee says she doesn't mind stooping to your
level.
DeeDee?
Neal Miyake
No, I'm the VH-1/MTV guy.
sponge (Britney is kewl)
Barefoot Adventure©
surfs...@aol.comindabowl says...
When was the last time Mark visited? My guess: never. Possible reasons
for the confusion: incomplete information.
I can verify that the Lemons! cabin is closer to a great break than the
homes of most of the people who post here. There's an ugly rumor going
around that the exterior of the building is nearly complete. Just in
time, too. It rains here now and then.
Lemons!
worth of cedar siding...
"Barefoot AdventureŠ" wrote
Rocky
> You watch Springer? I took you for a VH1 guy.
>
How insulting! You might recall that in past
OT discussions of music here on AS, I have stated my
STRONG dislike for so-called rock from the 70s and
80s. This being VH1's stock in trade, what would make
you think I am interested in that type of garbage?
At least "Springer" is good for a laugh, now and then.
><><I><><
OXOMOXO
<><><><><>
el_roca
"Revenge is best served cold" - Old Chinese saying.
Doc
Get a froe, or make one or have one made. Old car springs are perfect. Then,
you can make all the cedar shakes you want - or cypress, or pine, or
whatever ya got. Nothing magical about cedar for siding. Or roofing, for
that matter. Lots of other species work just fine. Whatever fairly
straight-grained softwood you got growing there will do.
"Lemons!" <lemons@the_tree.com> wrote in message
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Always Stoke
> really? no way!! You're kidding right? A Lien too doesn't count! Mark said u
> live over an hour away from the beach...
<LOL> ...and how would *I* know that?
Don't drag me into this!
:-)
--
~ m@r|< "Pardon me, while I burn, and rise above the flames...."
- Incubus
Always Stoke
<lemons@the_tree.com> wrote:
> No. I just finished the shell. I'll show you a pic later.
>
> Depends on the beach. I live in the mountains also.
>
> I get bored easy.
>
> If you got all the materials stacked up I can build
> you a 600 sq foot cabin in one month. Buy some
> land in Puerto Rico and I'll show you...
So, if I decide to build a home in Cnetro someday,
I can hire you to come help me build it?
I'm serious. :-)
> "SurfSarge" <surfs...@aol.comindabowl> wrote
> > really? no way!! You're kidding right? A Lien too doesn't count! Mark said
> u
> > live over an hour away from the beach...
--
Always Stoke
Neal Miyake
"Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Neal Miyake"
> <spo...@iav.com> wrote:
>
> > Britney is kewl
>
> She' BEYOND cool. THEE HOTTEST!
> ;-)
"Easy boy." --former senator Bob Dole to his dog in Britney's Pepsi
commercial
;-)
sponge
Ferguson
> So, if I decide to build a home in Cnetro someday,
> I can hire you to come help me build it?
>
> I'm serious. :-)
Yea right.
You can't even commit to copying a videotape :-(
Ferg.
SurfSarge
>When was the last time Mark visited? My guess: never. Possible reasons
>for the confusion: incomplete information.
He's talked to him on the phone...
-PD
Lemons!
a cul de sac type builder though...
The last 3 places I've built are all 1000 sq ft or under and
I build with available timber on the land and the beach.
I'll yank large timbers from the beach and use those
for structural material.
Basically I can build you a basic, low cost place in a really
short period of time.
As long as it's close to the beach...
"Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote
Lemons!
for his place. It's a lot of work. Besides I don't like the
look. I like to use barn boards or ship-lap(sp) and orient it
vertically.
Cedar is the local wood product that will weather the longest
untreated in this area.
The rest of the local woods disintegrate within 5 years unless
you treat them and they are just about the same price. The
natives built with cedar for a reason. Fir will hold up a little
better than the rest but cedar is the one... Less maintenance.
"Doc" <jfm...@mediaone.two.three.four.net> wrote
Barefoot Adventure©
jfm...@mediaone.two.three.four.net says...
> Display some adaptability, there, bub.
>
> Get a froe, or make one or have one made. Old car springs are perfect. Then,
> you can make all the cedar shakes you want - or cypress, or pine, or
> whatever ya got.
We don't have cypress here, and no one in their right mind
would use pine (too much pitch to mess with - "mess" being the operative
word).
> Nothing magical about cedar for siding. Or roofing, for
> that matter.
Actually, there *IS* a difference - a BIG difference: rot resistance.
Old-growth Western Red Cedar (the local favorite fir siding/roofing) has
a high degree of rot resistance - much higher than any other species
native to the area.
> Lots of other species work just fine. Whatever fairly
> straight-grained softwood you got growing there will do.
< trying to imagine a hemlock roof lasting more than a couple of years >
Nope, I can't even picture it. A poof made from low-rot-resistant wood
just doesn't cut it.
I wimped out on my place: high-grade asphalt shingles on the roof,
concrete/fiber siding. Long life, low cost, low maintenance. Looks good,
less filling.
I use the froe for attacking the hardpan (1'-2' deep, 90' thick).
> "Lemons!" <lemons@the_tree.com> wrote in message
> news:NZ8y7.1799$%B.20...@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...
> > Yea next time you are in the neighborhood bring about $2k
> > worth of cedar siding...
> >
> > "Barefoot AdventureŠ" wrote
> > > I can verify that the Lemons! cabin is closer to a great break than the
> > > homes of most of the people who post here. There's an ugly rumor going
> > > around that the exterior of the building is nearly complete. Just in
> > > time, too. It rains here now and then.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
--
Barefoot Adventure©
@news.bellatlantic.net>, eastcoas...@hotmail.com says...
> (SurfSarge) wrote:
>
> > really? no way!! You're kidding right? A Lien too doesn't count! Mark said u
> > live over an hour away from the beach...
>
>
>
>
> <LOL> ...and how would *I* know that?
>
>
> Don't drag me into this!
Maybe it was some flake who said it. One who spent a lot of time and
effort stalking someone from across the country.
Barefoot Adventure©
KEEPYOURgrey...@snotmail.com says...
> > Lots of other species work just fine. Whatever fairly
> > straight-grained softwood you got growing there will do.
>
> < trying to imagine a hemlock roof lasting more than a couple of years >
>
> Nope, I can't even picture it. A poof made from low-rot-resistant wood
> just doesn't cut it.
A "poof" ??? That's a typo, but a most apt one. A roof made from the
wrong materials would go "poof" soon.
Lemons!
> Actually, there *IS* a difference - a BIG difference: rot resistance.
> Old-growth Western Red Cedar (the local favorite fir siding/roofing) has
> a high degree of rot resistance - much higher than any other species
> native to the area.
>
> < trying to imagine a hemlock roof lasting more than a couple of years >
Longer than alder...
> I wimped out on my place: high-grade asphalt shingles on the roof,
> concrete/fiber siding. Long life, low cost, low maintenance. Looks good,
> less filling.
I used metal on this one. I've done comp, cedar and torch down
and metal is the easiest. less manitenance and it actually looks
good from an airplane ;-)
Gotta have wood on the siding though. None of this plastic
or metal siding crap. I can't think of anything that would
destroy my day quicker than to step out onto my deck
with a cup of coffee and marvel at my plastic siding...
Doc
cedar out here? Straight-grained light wood? Kinda curious as to what they
get a board foot for it out there....
'ship-lap' is correct, at least correct as far as dealing with sawmills and
such. I prefer a fairly narrow board myself, easier to smack into place and
less prone to opening up as it shrinks. No wider than 1x8. What used to be
called 'match board'; a T&G board with a bead milled down the middle is kind
of a nice look too - used to be used on wheelhouses and such of medium-sized
fishing boats.
Surf content? Wayull, if you saw the latest Surfer's Journal, Port Orford
cedar would make a pretty good and usable board, better than walnut
certainly.
"Lemons!" <lemons@the_tree.com> wrote in message
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Doc
"Barefoot Adventure©" <KEEPYOURgrey...@snotmail.com> wrote in
message news:MPG.16335892f...@news.earthlink.net...
> In article <MPG.1633552e3...@news.earthlink.net>,
> KEEPYOURgrey...@snotmail.com says...
>
> > > Lots of other species work just fine. Whatever fairly
> > > straight-grained softwood you got growing there will do.
> >
> > < trying to imagine a hemlock roof lasting more than a couple of years >
> >
> > Nope, I can't even picture it. A poof made from low-rot-resistant wood
> > just doesn't cut it.
>
> A "poof" ??? That's a typo, but a most apt one. A roof made from the
> wrong materials would go "poof" soon.
You kinda had me wondering for a second there - I redid a house about thirty
years ago for this guy who owned an art museum............ Anyhow.......
"Barefoot Adventure©" <KEEPYOURgrey...@snotmail.com> wrote in
message news:MPG.1633552e3...@news.earthlink.net...
> In article <yOgy7.112150$vq.25...@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,
> jfm...@mediaone.two.three.four.net says...
>
> > Display some adaptability, there, bub.
> >
> > Get a froe, or make one or have one made. Old car springs are perfect.
Then,
> > you can make all the cedar shakes you want - or cypress, or pine, or
> > whatever ya got.
>
> We don't have cypress here, and no one in their right mind
> would use pine (too much pitch to mess with - "mess" being the operative
> word).
Wayull - we use white cedar here, a species that's really a juniper and thus
closely related to cypress. Holds up ok. I've seen pine shake roofs hold up
for quite a long time. The pitch is really a plus, acting as a preservative
and bug repellant. Turpentine gets it off your tools quite nicely.
>
> > Nothing magical about cedar for siding. Or roofing, for
> > that matter.
>
> Actually, there *IS* a difference - a BIG difference: rot resistance.
> Old-growth Western Red Cedar (the local favorite fir siding/roofing) has
> a high degree of rot resistance - much higher than any other species
> native to the area.
>
> > Lots of other species work just fine. Whatever fairly
> > straight-grained softwood you got growing there will do.
>
> < trying to imagine a hemlock roof lasting more than a couple of years >
You're right, I had completely forgotten about hemlock. Spruce too.....
substitute ' almost any' for 'whatever'.
>
> Nope, I can't even picture it. A poof made from low-rot-resistant wood
> just doesn't cut it.
>
> I wimped out on my place: high-grade asphalt shingles on the roof,
> concrete/fiber siding. Long life, low cost, low maintenance. Looks good,
> less filling.
What kind of fiber? Was a lot of asbestos used in that siding back in the
day - kinda spooky if you have to do anything with it.
>
> I use the froe for attacking the hardpan (1'-2' deep, 90' thick).
We talking about the same tool? http://www.madsens1.com/mallet.htm
Barefoot Adventure©
jfm...@mediaone.two.three.four.net says...
> Not to wander too far off track - is that what we'd call a Port Orford-type
> cedar out here? Straight-grained light wood?
You're in the right neighborhood.
http://www.mastergardenproducts.com/redcedar.htm
http://www.millenniawood.com/western.htm
it makes good poles for pole houses, too. There is some local
disagreement over how long the poles last web planted, though. [you had
to be there.....]
> Kinda curious as to what they
> get a board foot for it out there....
A king's ransom at the lumberyard when you buy. :o(
A pittance on the stump when you sell. :o( :o(
> 'ship-lap' is correct, at least correct as far as dealing with sawmills and
> such. I prefer a fairly narrow board myself, easier to smack into place and
> less prone to opening up as it shrinks. No wider than 1x8.
We call 1x8 lap "wide".
> What used to be
> called 'match board'; a T&G board with a bead milled down the middle is kind
> of a nice look too - used to be used on wheelhouses and such of medium-sized
> fishing boats.
You see that look more in Doug Fir siding... very attractive.
and plywood (ok)... and "hardboard" (yec-c-c-h-h-h-h)... and vinyl and
aluminum (end of topic).
> Surf content? Wayull, if you saw the latest Surfer's Journal, Port Orford
> cedar would make a pretty good and usable board, better than walnut
> certainly.
The locals used spruce and cedar for canoes long before we blue-eyes
showed up.
< trying to picture landing one through the reefs when it's 2x at The
C*** or D*** >
There are canoe races every year (if you know where to look). Sometimes
grey whales enter the races, too.
Barefoot Adventure©
jfm...@mediaone.two.three.four.net says...
> > I wimped out on my place: high-grade asphalt shingles on the roof,
> > concrete/fiber siding. Long life, low cost, low maintenance. Looks good,
> > less filling.
>
> What kind of fiber? Was a lot of asbestos used in that siding back in the
> day - kinda spooky if you have to do anything with it.
"Portland cement, ground sand, cellulose fiber, select additives and
water. Hardiplank contains no asbestos, fiberglass or formaldehyde."
http://www.jameshardie.com/hardiplank.htm
> > I use the froe for attacking the hardpan (1'-2' deep, 90' thick).
>
> We talking about the same tool? http://www.madsens1.com/mallet.htm
Oops! Forgot the smiley. It was a commentary on the nature of the soil
here. Shovels and mere picks don't do much. A common tillage tool is a
D-6 with rippers. I've grabbed subsurface boulders with the rippers, and
spun the Cat® half way around.
I have 150' trees with roots that go down 2'. Keener stood in a 2' deep
pit that was 15'-20' across, looking up at the root ball of a wind-
fallen Doug Fir. (Nothing better to do that day, he'd already flattened
the surf.)
Timothy B. Maddux
Barefoot AdventureŠ <KEEPYOURgrey...@snotmail.com> wrote:
>I can verify that the Lemons! cabin is closer to a great break
>than the homes of most of the people who post here.
I'll bet you can really only verify half
that statement. Take your word that you've
been to the cabin, but I'm pretty sure you
haven't been to my place... how many have
you been to?
Quickie surf report: Head high waves at my
local "great break," but like M@rk I just got
nailed by a home problem (broken wing feather
on one of our birds) just as I was mobilizing...
--
.-``'. Tim Maddux, Ocean Engineering Lab, UCSB
.` .`~ Santa Barbara Surfing - http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~tbmaddux/
_.-' '._ "The waves, as always, hold the more insidious addiction."
Foon
>Gotta have wood on the siding though. None of this plastic
>or metal siding crap. I can't think of anything that would
>destroy my day quicker than to step out onto my deck
>with a cup of coffee and marvel at my plastic siding...
How 'bout a visit from me? With some plastic siding as a gift?
-Foon (I coulda said, "how bout a look in the mirror," but the guy's already
hurt)
Barefoot Adventure©
says...
> In article <MPG.1632b6aa...@news.earthlink.net>,
> Barefoot AdventureŠ <KEEPYOURgrey...@snotmail.com> wrote:
> >I can verify that the Lemons! cabin is closer to a great break
> >than the homes of most of the people who post here.
>
> I'll bet you can really only verify half
> that statement. Take your word that you've
> been to the cabin, but I'm pretty sure you
> haven't been to my place... how many have
> you been to?
The statement is based on what posters here have said about themselves
and their living situations over the past 7 or 8 years.
> Quickie surf report: Head high waves at my
> local "great break," but like M@rk I just got
> nailed by a home problem (broken wing feather
> on one of our birds) just as I was mobilizing...
>
>
--
Agent Utah
actually Neal.......Bob Dole's dog is a
female. he wasn't talking to the dog.
Barefoot Adventure©
Neal Miyake
Didn't Bob also do the erectile dysfunction commercial too?
sponge
Barefoot Adventure©
spo...@iav.com says...
You're catching on fast now, Neal.
T. Yuben
>
> Quickie surf report: Head high waves at my
> local "great break," but like M@rk I just got
> nailed by a home problem (broken wing feather
> on one of our birds) just as I was mobilizing...
Think 'Machete' ;->
T. Yuben
Where is DD anyway?
She doesn't appear to have returned from GP but the rest of you have....
Foon <fo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<9qb2m...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> Barefoot says...
>
> > dragging DeeDee down into the
> >gutter hardly seemed to be the way to get a laugh. I'm disappointed,
> >Foon.
>
> Disappointed? Sorry you missed the satire, you must be under Surffs care But
> then again your addy is the PNW.Whoda thot? Dee Dee helped me write it. We
> discussed it by the hot tub at the TB house. She's got the greatest sense of
> humor. :) She laughs at all your joke. What year was that again? ;)
>
> -Hal Ogenlamp
Lemons!
> How 'bout a visit from me? With some plastic siding as a gift?
How bout it gramps?
> -Foon (I coulda said, "how bout a look in the mirror," but the guy's
already
> hurt)
I look in the mirror every chance I get.
cor...@mediaone.net
> Foon,
>
> Where is DD anyway?
> She doesn't appear to have returned from GP but the rest of you have....
Hi T. Yuben, Foon, Barefoot Adventure & all!!!
I sure have been missing all of you!!! I got back late Friday night,
but my internet connection was down. I had to work long hours
on Sat & Sun to make up for all the extra time I got off to go to
GP (which I much appreciate being given the time off & I had a
_fantastic_ time sharing waves & good times with incredibly
_excellent_, _good fun_ alt.surfing folks....as _all_ of you fellow
alt.surfing folks are!!!). I knew every second, that I was a
very lucky gal to be there with everyone! (Thank You, Team GP!)
I was able to connect to the internet very briefly when I
got home from work & a family gathering late Saturday
night....then, when I came home Sunday night from work,
my internet connection was down again. It just came back
up again a little while ago....and I am so glad to hear you
all again.
Thanks so much for asking, T. Yuben!!!....I have a ton
of posts to catch up on & write. And Foon & G. Wolf,
I will be sure to respond better to this thread, also.
I don't mind people making fun of me or my posting style
at alt.surfing at all & I know that what Foon wrote was in
the very best of good fun spirits & he is an excellent writer.
[Foon, thanks so much for your kind hospitality & generous
spirit, in letting me stop over at the righteous Foonbunker
& for showing me beautiful Ocean Beach....I was so happy to be
there & I look forward to writing more about being how great it
was to be there!!] There is no way on da planet that alt.surfing
would be the same without All of Team PNW & Foon...I admire,
respect, love & appreciate you all _so_ _very_ _much_!!! And I
look forward to replying to this thread more & explain more
about why I feel this way.
And to quote from Foon, who wrote this, whilst poking
fun at poor ol' earnest Dee Dee yet _again_!!! (Foon...
you rascal, you!:o)))):
I Love Youse All!
Lei Aloha, Lei Makamae!!!
Dee Dee
----------------------------------------------------
(Will be posting much very, very long verbously glowing
GP reports....and an equally glowing report of Tom Keener's
stop over in my hood last month....very soon!!!! Thank You
Foon, Rod, KC & Lana, Surfsarge, SteveM, Myroni, Todd,
Ferg (and Lucy!), Andy, Neal, Edmund & Cape Hatteras
in general, for teaching me so much about surfing, making me
laugh & smile continuously & warming my heart endlessly!
....and thank you _all_ at alt.surfing for the very same
....I hope very much to get to meet all of you in person
& surfing with you sometime down the line, very soon!)
(I am hoping that I don't lose my internet connection again
this week....but in case I do, I wanted to be sure to at
least get this posted....I'll get busy write now finishing up
my reports, for those who feel like reading them...To give you
a small sample: Besides being in the waves with mighty fine,
stoking alt.surfers (everyone of 'em!), I got to play foosball
with SteveM & others not one, but _two_ nights, I got to play
darts with da dartmeister hisself, Myroni!....I got to drink a
rum & strawberry sodee drink (and make a toast) with Ferg....and
eat a Bubba's-kine plate lunch with Foon....and much, much more!!!!)
Agent Utah
Thanks for getting that one for me......
Always Stoke
> In article <20011013211808...@mb-mn.aol.com>,
> surfs...@aol.comindabowl says...
>
> > >> Lemons! <lemons@the_tree.com> scribed:
> > >> > "SurfShlarge"
> >
> > >> > Don't be afraid of being alone Shlarge.
> >
> > Yes very large...you could say shlarge it fits....I'm not afraid of being
> > alone....but since I'm sooo addicted to girls it's kinda hard being
> > alone...Only you'd know that feeling of being alone..
> >
> > >> > Oh yea? I can hear the waves from here. I live 2 minutes from
> > >> > the beach in a house I built by myself on land I purchased...
> > >>
> >
> > really? no way!! You're kidding right? A Lien too doesn't count! Mark
> > said u
> > live over an hour away from the beach...
> > -PD
>
> When was the last time Mark visited? My guess: never. Possible reasons
> for the confusion: incomplete information.
Never been there. Would I. No doubt. Nothing to be afraid of.
...at least for someone like me of course. <GGGGGG>
> I can verify that the Lemons! cabin is closer to a great break than the
> homes of most of the people who post here.
Probably. I'm 4 blocks in. I used to be 2 doors in (200yrds)
> There's an ugly rumor going
> around that the exterior of the building is nearly complete. Just in
> time, too. It rains here now and then.
Lem, better get crackin! ;-)
--
~ m@r|< "Pardon me, while I burn, and rise above the flames...."
- Incubus
Always Stoke
<spo...@iav.com> wrote:
> "Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "Neal Miyake"
> > <spo...@iav.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Britney is kewl
> >
> > She' BEYOND cool. THEE HOTTEST!
> > ;-)
>
> "Easy boy." --former senator Bob Dole to his dog in Britney's Pepsi
> commercial
> ;-)
<LOL> That dirty ol man!
Always Stoke
> > So, if I decide to build a home in Cnetro someday,
> > I can hire you to come help me build it?
> >
> > I'm serious. :-)
>
>
>
> Yea right.
>
> You can't even commit to copying a videotape :-(
http://www.artopiaproductions.com/marksecretspot/temp/doh.html
Right.
Always Stoke
(SurfSarge) wrote:
> greywolf wrote:
>
> >When was the last time Mark visited? My guess: never. Possible reasons
> >for the confusion: incomplete information.
>
> He's talked to him on the phone...
Ummmmm. No.
(he never mentioned anything about his house)
*someone* else did. ...and you were there also when you heard it.
Always Stoke
> As long as it's within 5 minutes from the beach. I'm not
> a cul de sac type builder though...
<sigh> Oh well. Scratch that.
I was thinking that since I'm in debt, bad credit,
laid off, *rent*, and zero in the bank that I'd just
do something more like this....
http://www.buyahouse.com/Buyers2.JPG
...since I'm such a Cherokee-driving yuppie and all.
;-)
> The last 3 places I've built are all 1000 sq ft or under and
> I build with available timber on the land and the beach.
> I'll yank large timbers from the beach and use those
> for structural material.
>
> Basically I can build you a basic, low cost place in a really
> short period of time.
>
> As long as it's close to the beach...
Oh,,, it *would* be just that.
> "Always Stoke" <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > So, if I decide to build a home in Cnetro someday,
> > I can hire you to come help me build it?
--
Always Stoke
> In article <eastcoastcharger-EDF618.10174814102001
> @news.bellatlantic.net>, eastcoas...@hotmail.com says...
>
> > (SurfSarge) wrote:
> >
> > > really? no way!! You're kidding right? A Lien too doesn't count! Mark
> > > said u
> > > live over an hour away from the beach...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <LOL> ...and how would *I* know that?
> >
> >
> > Don't drag me into this!
>
> Maybe it was some flake who said it. One who spent a lot of time and
> effort stalking someone from across the country.
Uhh, no. Not him.
I didn't hear anything. It's all a farse.
Barefoot Adventure©
@news.bellatlantic.net>, eastcoas...@hotmail.com says...
> In article <20011014110643...@mb-mn.aol.com>, surfs...@aol.comindabowl
> (SurfSarge) wrote:
>
> > greywolf wrote:
> >
> > >When was the last time Mark visited? My guess: never. Possible reasons
> > >for the confusion: incomplete information.
> >
> > He's talked to him on the phone...
>
>
>
>
> Ummmmm. No.
>
>
>
> (he never mentioned anything about his house)
>
>
>
>
> *someone* else did. ...and you were there also when you heard it.
I bet I know who, too.
SurfSarge
>about his house)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *someone* else did. ...and you were there also when you heard it.
>
>I bet I know who, too.
Hmmm I don't recall....was it a reliable source?
-PD
Ferguson
>Can you at least put a picture of a wave at the bottom so next time I have
to
>look at that "Doh" so I wont feel so bad?
>
>
LOL!
At least Mark didn't use this one:
http://www.monmouth.com/user_pages/sisom/Gift.gif
I guess that's saved for special occasions.
Lemons!
> <sigh> Oh well. Scratch that.
>
> I was thinking that since I'm in debt, bad credit,
> laid off, *rent*, and zero in the bank that I'd just
> do something more like this....
>
> http://www.buyahouse.com/Buyers2.JPG
LOL. Just wanted to let you know...
> > Basically I can build you a basic, low cost place in a really
> > short period of time.
> >
> > As long as it's close to the beach...
>
>
> Oh,,, it *would* be just that.
Yahtzee!
jw
> I was thinking that since I'm in debt, bad credit,
> laid off, *rent*, and zero in the bank that I'd just
> do something more like this....
Mark, it never ceases to amaze me how similar we are in some ways. It's
always comforting to know there are other people out there who know have
their priorities straight.
You can probably surf circles around me though...;)
> ...since I'm such a Cherokee-driving yuppie and all.
I have the same problem. If I say I drive a Saab, some people think
"yuppie." They must not know that it's 17 years old (young) and I paid $850
for it. The thing runs like a top and is a great surf vehicle (cavernous
hatchback, fast, etc.).
-jw
Andy
Always Stoke <eastcoas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eastcoastcharger-FF...@news.bellatlantic.net...
> I was thinking that since I'm in debt, bad credit,
> laid off, *rent*, and zero in the bank that I'd just
> do something more like this....
>
> http://www.buyahouse.com/Buyers2.JPG
>
Jesus H. Christ! Give a guy some warning before providing a link like that!
Yeeeew!
Andy
Barefoot Adventure©
@earthlink.net says...
I have the same problem when I wear Dockers, hang my cashmere sweater
over my back with sleeves carefully knotted in front, drink my Evian,
and yak on the cell phone endlessly. Some people just don't get it.
Always Stoke
> Always Stoke wrote:
>
> > I was thinking that since I'm in debt, bad credit,
> > laid off, *rent*, and zero in the bank that I'd just
> > do something more like this....
>
> Mark, it never ceases to amaze me how similar we are in some ways. It's
> always comforting to know there are other people out there who know have
> their priorities straight.
<LOL> Hey, I'm not afraid one bit to admit my
life's situation. Nothing to hide. I'm very humble
in that respect.
> You can probably surf circles around me though...;)
...about my surfing, I might not be as humble! <LOL>
<kidding>
Just a sample of my collection:
http://www.artopiaproductions.com/marksecretspot/gallery/fruitsoflabor.jpg
(the smallest one in the middle I won while T. Keener watched)
http://www.artopiaproductions.com/marksecretspot/gallery/mybestseason.jpg
;-)
(note: I wonder how many people that will troll?<G>)
....what can I say, I love surfing *that* much...everywhich way possible.
> > ...since I'm such a Cherokee-driving yuppie and all.
>
> I have the same problem. If I say I drive a Saab, some people think
> "yuppie." They must not know that it's 17 years old (young) and I paid $850
> for it. The thing runs like a top and is a great surf vehicle (cavernous
> hatchback, fast, etc.).
Hey, my Cherokee is a 91' with a cracked windshield, 140K miles,
the interior cloth falling off, and full of sand and smelly damp wetsuits.
...and needs a SERIOUS tune-up!
...and, before that, for a short period of time (it died QUICKLY), I
owned a beat up Saab 900 turbo. Turbo didnt work, 'CV' joints blown,
and all sorts of shit wrong with it. Bought it for $500.
My wife dries a sweet 98' VW Jetta
We seem to own yuppie vehicles, but yet we dont live yuppie style.
"Champagne taste - beer pockets?"
<LOL>
Always Stoke
> >From: Always Stoke eastcoas...@hotmail.com
>
> >http://www.artopiaproductions.com/marksecretspot/temp/doh.html
>
> Fuck. I get burned by that dumb thing everytime.
>
> I usually click on m@rk's links becuase m@rk, you got good content. But the
> last 15 times I've clicked on that dumb "Doh" page I curse myself promising
> I will look at your links to make sure they are not the "doh" link before
> clicking on them. Yet, it never fails. I click on your link and see that
> dumb "Doh"
>
> You troll me, M@rk.
<ROTFLOL> That's too funny! Sorry Hoss, didn't mean to get ya!
> Can you at least put a picture of a wave at the bottom so next time I have
> to look at that "Doh" so I wont feel so bad?
Hmmm, there's a thought. I'll thnik about it.
Just be sure to look at the last few letters of the URL b4 you click on it.
Always Stoke
Yes, it is Ferg. I didn't use it on you cause I like you
as a person. I honestly feel bad about the tapes.
I'm finally on it this week. No BS this time.
Barefoot Adventure©
@news.bellatlantic.net>, eastcoas...@hotmail.com
inadvertently revealed the truth when he wrote...
> Hey, my Cherokee is a 91' with a cracked windshield, 140K miles,
> the interior cloth falling off, and full of sand and smelly damp wetsuits.
> ...and needs a SERIOUS tune-up!
>
> ...and, before that, for a short period of time (it died QUICKLY), I
> owned a beat up Saab 900 turbo. Turbo didnt work, 'CV' joints blown,
> and all sorts of shit wrong with it. Bought it for $500.
>
> My wife dries a sweet 98' VW Jetta
>
> We seem to own yuppie vehicles, but yet we dont live yuppie style.
There but for the grace of $$$ go two true Yuppies. It's just a matter
of time: picket fence, bottled imported water, Dockers, the whole mess.
The Supreme Court
Wolf - is that AS car page up?
That is all for now,
Gamivia Duke, Esq.
"Bust a deal, face the wheel!"
Barefoot Adventure©
gam...@aol.com says...
> >From: Barefoot AdventureŠ KEEPYOURgrey...@snotmail.com
>
> Wolf - is that AS car page up?
Not yet. The lazy SOB won't get off his dead ass and finish it.
Foon
>I have the same problem when I wear Dockers, hang my cashmere sweater
>over my back with sleeves carefully knotted in front, drink my Evian,
>and yak on the cell phone endlessly. Some people just don't get it.
Just take off the dockers but keep the rest.
Most people will get it.
"All celebrated people lose dignity on a close view." -Napoleon Bonaparte
"Fashion fades, but style is eternal." -Yves Saint LowRent
-Patty Cakes
Always Stoke
> East Coast Charger wrote...
>
> > We seem to own yuppie vehicles, but yet we dont live yuppie style.
>
> There but for the grace of $$$ go two true Yuppies. It's just a matter
> of time: picket fence, bottled imported water, Dockers, the whole mess.
Don't think so.
Agent Utah
>
> Always Stoke wrote:
>
> > I was thinking that since I'm in debt, bad credit,
> > laid off, *rent*, and zero in the bank that I'd just
> > do something more like this....
>
> Mark, it never ceases to amaze me how similar we are in some ways. It's
> always comforting to know there are other people out there who know have
> their priorities straight.
>
hey now......this isn't a singles bar.
stop trying to hit on mark....he's
married.
jw
>> Mark, it never ceases to amaze me how similar we are in some ways. It's
>> always comforting to know there are other people out there who know have
>> their priorities straight.
btw, Mark, I wasn't making light of your situation. I know you have a family
to support. Being in debt isn't necessarily having "priorities straight," I
just meant you know what's important in life. The money will come.
>> I have the same problem. If I say I drive a Saab, some people think
>> "yuppie." They must not know that it's 17 years old (young) and I paid $850
>> for it. The thing runs like a top and is a great surf vehicle (cavernous
>> hatchback, fast, etc.).
>
> I have the same problem when I wear Dockers, hang my cashmere sweater
> over my back with sleeves carefully knotted in front, drink my Evian,
> and yak on the cell phone endlessly. Some people just don't get it.
Are you sure you don't live in Bellevue? Palo Alto? Winnetka? Wellesley?
-jw
--
a different kind of yuppie -- young upright-surfing professional
jw
> jw wrote:
>> Mark, it never ceases to amaze me how similar we are in some ways. It's
>> always comforting to know there are other people out there who know have
>> their priorities straight.
>
> <LOL> Hey, I'm not afraid one bit to admit my
> life's situation. Nothing to hide. I'm very humble
> in that respect.
You saw my reply in the other post, no doubt. The money will come in due
time, bro!
>> You can probably surf circles around me though...;)
>
> ...about my surfing, I might not be as humble! <LOL>
> <kidding>
I'm rarely described as humble, but I know a better surfer when I see one.
I'm still better than a hell of a lot of people...:)
> http://www.artopiaproductions.com/marksecretspot/gallery/fruitsoflabor.jpg
> http://www.artopiaproductions.com/marksecretspot/gallery/mybestseason.jpg
Sweet, something to be proud of.
> Hey, my Cherokee is a 91' with a cracked windshield, 140K miles,
> the interior cloth falling off, and full of sand and smelly damp wetsuits.
> ...and needs a SERIOUS tune-up!
If it gets you to the waves without draining your wallet too much, it works
fine.
> ...and, before that, for a short period of time (it died QUICKLY), I
> owned a beat up Saab 900 turbo. Turbo didnt work, 'CV' joints blown,
> and all sorts of shit wrong with it. Bought it for $500.
More about my surf/snowboard vehicle (note: ON-topic, pix going on the surf
vehicle page ASAP):
I have a 1984 900 S hatchback. "Only" 130K miles on a very well-cared for
engine that'll go another 130K easily. Body is very good (nds. paint, I
think I'll have Sus do it, and barely a touch of rust). The engine rips. All
new suspension, brakes, clutch over the last two years, done when I could
afford it. 28mpg at 75mph and rock solid at 90+.
But enough about my car...even though it is surf-related. It gets me
anywhere there's surf.
> My wife dries a sweet 98' VW Jetta
I used to have a 1984 Jetta GLI, which I drove from Mass. to San Francisco
when I moved out there, and had out there for a couple of years. My ex-gf
and I took the scenic route camping -- through New Orleans, going 7500 miles
total (55K on the odometer) cross-country, four weeks on the road, without a
hitch. That was a good car. A friend of mine has a 1999 or 2000 Jetta. Yeah,
that's a sweet ride.
Too bad the U.S. hasn't figured out how to make long-lasting, comfortable,
fast, reliable surf-friendly vehicles yet. Except maybe an old Jeep Cherokee
(pre-yuppiefication), mid-80s F-150 4X4 w/cap, probably a few others, or a
Chevy Tahoe.
Oh, never mind, that last one was a joke. That's what Surff drives, with a
big Mickey Mouse face on the rear window. :)
> We seem to own yuppie vehicles, but yet we dont live yuppie style.
>
> "Champagne taste - beer pockets?"
Good one!
That is all for now.
(Sorry Gamivia, I had to do it. It makes me chuckle every time I read it.)
-jw
jw
> jw wrote:
>> Mark, it never ceases to amaze me how similar we are in some ways. It's
>> always comforting to know there are other people out there who know have
>> their priorities straight.
>>
>
> hey now......this isn't a singles bar.
> stop trying to hit on mark....he's
> married.
Laff Out Loud, as that boogie boarder from OC, MD would say. You know, the
one who wanted to kill himself by riding a big wave? He spelled Laugh like
that.
Time to reduce the meds they put me on as a result of my recent sickness.
Shit is potent.
-jw
SurffOhio
>a different kind of yuppie -- young upright-surfing professional
>
>
Nice quote. Especially the upright
part.
Surff
Lemons!
When I purchased it new it was either that or the Hummer.
The f150 gets better gas mileage and the maintanence and
sticker price cost about half the Hummer.
The f150 is better for surf. I can throw mass boards in the bed.
7'6" fit just fine cross ways. Can sleep in the back seat. It folds
up and lays down so you can put a thermarest and crash out
nice with room for other shit up front. I've got racks so I can
carry 4 boards on top, a cord of wood in the bed and chainsaws
and mass tools up front if need be.
"jw" <johnwe...@earthlink.net> wrote
Barefoot Adventure©
lemons@the_tree.com says...
> Mid 90's f150 4X w/cab.
>
> When I purchased it new it was either that or the Hummer.
>
> The f150 gets better gas mileage and the maintanence and
> sticker price cost about half the Hummer.
>
> The f150 is better for surf. I can throw mass boards in the bed.
> 7'6" fit just fine cross ways. Can sleep in the back seat. It folds
> up and lays down so you can put a thermarest and crash out
> nice with room for other shit up front. I've got racks so I can
> carry 4 boards on top, a cord of wood in the bed and chainsaws
> and mass tools up front if need be.
What you described should be on the "Surf Wheels" page. I'll show you
mine if you show me yours.
> "jw" <johnwe...@earthlink.net> wrote
> > Too bad the U.S. hasn't figured out how to make long-lasting, comfortable,
> > fast, reliable surf-friendly vehicles yet. Except maybe an old Jeep
> Cherokee
> > (pre-yuppiefication), mid-80s F-150 4X4 w/cap
>
>
>
--
jw
> The f150 is better for surf. I can throw mass boards in the bed.
> 7'6" fit just fine cross ways. Can sleep in the back seat. It folds
> up and lays down so you can put a thermarest and crash out
> nice with room for other shit up front. I've got racks so I can
> carry 4 boards on top, a cord of wood in the bed and chainsaws
> and mass tools up front if need be.
That sounds like a good rig. I have wanted a 4X4 F-150 w/cap for some time.
But I have lived in cities since college (Boston, SF, NYC, now a small city,
Providence), so trucks have not been the most convenient option, otherwise I
would have bought a used one already.
A buddy of mine in Narrangansett had a really "refined" surf truck, what I
would consider one of the ultimate surf vehicles I have ever seen. It was a
Dodge, 4WD, circa maybe 1992, maroon with cap. He welded a home-made
iron-bar roof/carry rack using 1-inch square "tubing," and affixed it to the
roof of the cap. On top of that, he had a 7-ft by 2-ft. by 2-ft. or so
carrying box (also which he made) on one side, a board rack on the other
half. Sort of on the side of the rack, he had fashioned a very sturdy
mountainbike rack.
Inside, he lined the bed with industrial rubber decking, the kind with
little no-slip circles. He had a bench/bed along one side with carpet
covering it. Lots of little storage compartments along the sides. It even
had a shower contraption made from a big heavy-duty bag and a tube with
shower head type attachment. He'd put the bag filled with water up on the
roof and rinse off after surfing, or when he just needed a quick shower.
I haven't seen him in a while, unfortunately. He was quite a crafty fellow,
a freelance building contractor, and a very good surfer. We used to surf and
smoke the peace pipe pretty often a few years ago.
-jw
Doc
"Lemons!" <lemons@the_tree.com> wrote in message
news:NTsz7.44751$%B.39...@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...
> Mid 90's f150 4X w/cab.
>
> When I purchased it new it was either that or the Hummer.
>
> The f150 gets better gas mileage and the maintanence and
> sticker price cost about half the Hummer.
Make that 'about a third or less', even if you got a diesel and every other
damned option they had with the Ford. And the Ford diesels run pretty good.
>
> The f150 is better for surf. I can throw mass boards in the bed.
> 7'6" fit just fine cross ways. Can sleep in the back seat. It folds
> up and lays down so you can put a thermarest and crash out
> nice with room for other shit up front. I've got racks so I can
> carry 4 boards on top, a cord of wood in the bed and chainsaws
> and mass tools up front if need be.
Yah, ya can't beat a _real_ pickup . What's with these yuppie scum
imitations with four big doors and a 4' long bed?? I don't get it, what'll
they hold beyond a cooler?
The 'mass tools' part is important - you go off the beaten track, you gotta
expect something to go wrong sooner or later and it's you that's gotta fix
it. Double set of wrenches, electrical stuff, sockets, bars and hammers and
such, plus a few essential spares and a coffee can or two of nuts and bolts
and screws.
>
>
> "jw" <johnwe...@earthlink.net> wrote
> > Too bad the U.S. hasn't figured out how to make long-lasting,
comfortable,
> > fast, reliable surf-friendly vehicles yet. Except maybe an old Jeep
> Cherokee
> > (pre-yuppiefication), mid-80s F-150 4X4 w/cap
Wayull - still not crazy about the jeeps, though a buddy of mine has an old
gray four speed six cylinder Cherokee he swears by.... I distrust automatic
transmissions myself....
Doc......
Doc.......
Lemons!
Wondering what to get next? Maybe a f250
econoline...
"Barefoot Adventure©" <KEEPYOURgrey...@snotmail.com> wrote
Lemons!
> Yah, ya can't beat a _real_ pickup . What's with these yuppie scum
> imitations with four big doors and a 4' long bed?? I don't get it,
what'll
> they hold beyond a cooler?
I feel sorry for LP.
> The 'mass tools' part is important - you go off the beaten track, you
gotta
> expect something to go wrong sooner or later and it's you that's gotta fix
> it. Double set of wrenches, electrical stuff, sockets, bars and hammers
and
> such, plus a few essential spares and a coffee can or two of nuts and
bolts
> and screws.
Yea. I always carry a chainsaw w/18 inch bar and the machete.
Lately I've been packing the Sawsall, Skillsaw and drill...
Always Stoke
> Wondering what to get next? Maybe a f250
> econoline...
You mean a "new" one? You yuppie.
<G>
--
~ m@r|<
Always Stoke
<johnwe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Barefoot AdventureŠ wrote:
>
> >> Mark, it never ceases to amaze me how similar we are in some ways. It's
> >> always comforting to know there are other people out there who know have
> >> their priorities straight.
>
> btw, Mark, I wasn't making light of your situation. I know you have a family
> to support. Being in debt isn't necessarily having "priorities straight," I
> just meant you know what's important in life. The money will come.
I understand whatchya meant. :) My priorities are straight as an arrow,
(except when the waves are *that* good<G>) and work is miraculously
mushroom clouding for me atm. Just got 4 calls in 3 days for different
projects to dig into. Plus the place that put my work on halt is picking up.
I alsways come through in the end. My luck.
--
~ m@r|<
Tom Keener
wrote:
>A buddy of mine in Narrangansett had a really "refined" surf truck, what I
>would consider one of the ultimate surf vehicles I have ever seen. It was a
>Dodge, 4WD, circa maybe 1992, maroon with cap.
A buddy of mine had one, too. His was beige, prolly mid-80s. Somehow
the DODGE lettering on the hood got turned into GOD. He built his own
camper. Since he spends a lot of time in Baja, he has a lot of
specific ideas of what a surf vehicle needs. One, it needs a
refrigerator, not just a cooler. (When you're deep in Mex for weeks
and ice ain't just a walk away, ya gotta keep the beer cold.) Also,
the back door should be full height, opening on the side. Life's too
short to scrunch in and out all the time.
He could give a dissertation on the perfect Baja vehicle.
Tom Keener
keensurf_at_cts_dot_com
Tom Keener
They're still young.
Tom Keener
keensurf_at_cts_dot_com
lp
lemons@the_tree.com wrote on 10/18/01 7:24 AM:
> "Doc" <jfm...@mediaone.two.three.four.net> wrote
>> Yah, ya can't beat a _real_ pickup . What's with these yuppie scum
>> imitations with four big doors and a 4' long bed?? I don't get it,
> what'll
>> they hold beyond a cooler?
>
> I feel sorry for LP.
what lp are you talking about?
lp - i don't have a surf vehicle, i usually surf in front of my house.
Dave Blake
> I distrust automatic transmissions myself....
Why - do you like replacing clutches ?
TOday's automatic transmissions are more reliable, require
less frequent servicing, get better gas mileage, and are easier
to drive. The only reason stick shifts still exist in consumer
cars is that some drivers like to convince themselves there is
some benefit to the stick.
--
Dave Blake
dbl...@phy.ucsf.edu
Michael Sullivan
All you need is an attendant teen babe to carry
your board across the parking lot for you and
stand at attention holding your towel for you
while you surf.
:^)
Mike
Michael Sullivan
My buddy Mike would give him a run w/
his old VW bus. On his extended trips,
he'd haul spare heads and various parts, and
could buy anything else he needed for the
'matchine' down there.
swing axles are near as good for offroad and
sand as 4wd.
Rack the boards on top, but you can also lock
them inside. Place to sleep, places to put that
Mexican family of 6 that needs a ride into town.
Connor is STILL pissed off, btw, at that fat kid
who walked by and told his mom that my old bus was
a 'piece of junk' when we saw you this summer.
I keep telling him 'It IS a piece of junk, Connor,
that's the POINT!'
:^)
Mike
Lemons!
> Why - do you like replacing clutches ?
Better to replace a clutch than a transmission.