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Stuart Rice

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Jul 24, 2001, 4:42:16 PM7/24/01
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Alright, Bill - you old codger. You're probably lurking around
watching and enjoying the extra Blast! press of the Rosie/Hoppy
controversy. Here's your formal invitation to blow this thing open:

Is Blast! booked to appear on the Rosie O'Donnell show?

Stuart E. Rice
ser...@juno.com
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Bill Cook

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Jul 24, 2001, 5:50:30 PM7/24/01
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In article <d12adb54.01072...@posting.google.com>, ser...@juno.com
(Stuart Rice) writes:

>Is Blast! booked to appear on the Rosie O'Donnell show?
>

I have no information that Blast! will ever be on Rosie's show. The "Rosie"
note was just as perplexing to me as it was to everyone else.This Saturday,
Blast is supposed be on NBC's "Weekend Today" show.
Best Regards,
Bill
Dateline: mac portable
William A. Cook
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Liz Duguay

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Jul 24, 2001, 6:02:06 PM7/24/01
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Bill Cook wrote:
>This Saturday,
>Blast is supposed be on NBC's "Weekend Today" show.

This Saturday - as in th e28th? I had it on my calendar for August 4th. Could
somebody please clarify this for me?
Thanx in advance~
L

GEORGE 82

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Jul 24, 2001, 8:37:42 PM7/24/01
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The Rosie O'Donnell show goes dark for the summer and returns to live shows
after labor day weekend.

Rick and Sue Deschene

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Jul 24, 2001, 9:03:24 PM7/24/01
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Bill Cook wrote:
>
> In article <d12adb54.01072...@posting.google.com>, ser...@juno.com
> (Stuart Rice) writes:
>
> >Is Blast! booked to appear on the Rosie O'Donnell show?
> >
>
> I have no information that Blast! will ever be on Rosie's show. The "Rosie"
> note was just as perplexing to me as it was to everyone else.This Saturday,
> Blast is supposed be on NBC's "Weekend Today" show.

So you can't confirm or deny what George said? Well, that's interesting.
I would think that if anyone would know, it would be you.

It would be nice to know if there was any truth to it--say, Rosie was
approached, but she said "no can do" . . . and the "no can do" was
because of the use of weapons, or for some other reason--or if that was
total fiction. If it was total fiction--or even if she declined but for
some reason other than the "weapons" issue--then I think George owes the
drum corps community (and Rosie) a public retraction.

Sue

Melissa

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Jul 24, 2001, 9:35:34 PM7/24/01
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Ditto! I'm gonna be on the road this Saturday morn- don't wanna have to
memorex the show, was planning on watching while I was packing for Buffalo
(not driving to Indy)!

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Cincinnatti Tradition- 2001-???
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Stefanie Kressaty

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Jul 24, 2001, 10:15:32 PM7/24/01
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Liz,

They may be scheduled to tape their segment on the 28th.. airing on the
4th.. sometimes they do that with guests..

Stefanie

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Rick and Sue Deschene

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Jul 24, 2001, 10:30:03 PM7/24/01
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Frank Schoenbach wrote:
> I wonder if Rosie, being a big baseball fan, would boycott the game if
> someone told her that baseball bats have killed people. Nahhhh doubt
> it.
>
At the moment, I'm more interested in finding out if this really
happened the way George said it did. Until then, I'm not jumping to any
conclusions.

Sue

Glen Hazelwood

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Jul 24, 2001, 10:34:46 PM7/24/01
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>From: Frank Schoenbach

>Frank
>Proud to have been kicked off AOL's Rosie message board for defending
>the Bill of Rights after she ambushed Tom Selleck!

I called her a "buckethead" in a local department store about 2 years ago.
(she started it !)
Glen

Stuart Rice

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Jul 24, 2001, 10:41:42 PM7/24/01
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wma...@aol.comnojunk (Bill Cook) wrote in message news:<20010724175030...@nso-cg.aol.com>...

> In article <d12adb54.01072...@posting.google.com>, ser...@juno.com
> (Stuart Rice) writes:
>
> >Is Blast! booked to appear on the Rosie O'Donnell show?

> I have no information that Blast! will ever be on Rosie's show. The "Rosie"
> note was just as perplexing to me as it was to everyone else.

I'll be darn. I guess that confirms the Rosie post is a fake. Pretty
convincing - had me fooled. So does anyone know where Hoppy got his
"Rosie vs Blast!" source, and what exactly she said?

Stuart

Sharcast2

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Jul 24, 2001, 10:41:24 PM7/24/01
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>From: Rick and Sue Deschene

Essentially, Rosie O'Donnell is really a moot point. It's really about what Mr
Hopkins "seems" to be saying..

IMHO, Mr Hopkins took his opinion on gun control and incorporated it into the
world of drum corps that spins guns. A total ludicrous assumption..

Perhaps such credence would do better elsewhere.

My.. I hope drum and bugle corps gets back to their roots. Eventually.

Sharon

nancy holgate

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Jul 24, 2001, 10:57:40 PM7/24/01
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in article 20010724224124...@ng-bj1.aol.com, Sharcast2 at
shar...@aol.comnojunk wrote on 7/24/01 4:41 PM:

>
> My.. I hope drum and bugle corps gets back to their roots. Eventually.
>
> Sharon
>

Are the roots showing? Are they gray?! Come on...you can tell me.
Just playin'

Lets hope our wish comes true someday.
All we need to do is tap our heels together and say three times...
There's no place like corps...
There's no place like corps...
There's no place like corps...

Damn!!
Woke up.


Nancy
(Whose roots are 99.9% brunette)

Rick and Sue Deschene

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Jul 24, 2001, 11:20:02 PM7/24/01
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Actually, it didn't just show up in a posting here on RAMD; the quote
originated with George's comments in an interview posted on the Blue
Devils website:

Interview with George Hopkins
http://www.bluedevils.org/programs/a/2001/hopkins.asp

The article quotes George as saying she "refused to do a promotion for
Blast!, . . . because it uses guns and sabers." Now, whether that means
she refused to have them on her show, or refused to do some other
promotional gig, I don't know. The wording is a bit vague. Any idea,
Bill?

Sue

Sharcast2

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Jul 24, 2001, 11:28:18 PM7/24/01
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>From: nancy holgate


Yup.

Sharon

Ron Allard

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Jul 25, 2001, 12:30:11 AM7/25/01
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Rick and Sue Deschene said:

>> I have no information that Blast! will ever be on Rosie's show. The "Rosie"
>> note was just as perplexing to me as it was to everyone else.This Saturday,
>> Blast is supposed be on NBC's "Weekend Today" show.
>
>So you can't confirm or deny what George said? Well, that's interesting.
>I would think that if anyone would know, it would be you.
>
>It would be nice to know if there was any truth to it--say, Rosie was
>approached, but she said "no can do" . . . and the "no can do" was
>because of the use of weapons, or for some other reason--or if that was
>total fiction. If it was total fiction--or even if she declined but for
>some reason other than the "weapons" issue--then I think George owes the
>drum corps community (and Rosie) a public retraction.
>
>Sue

If I read the article right, it wasn't George who mentioned Rosie, but
the writer of the article?


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Bill Cook

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Jul 25, 2001, 7:12:39 AM7/25/01
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In article <20010724180206...@ng-cl1.aol.com>, lizd...@aol.com
(Liz Duguay) writes:

I'll check and get back to you on ramd. Thanks for the noting that my date may
be wrong.
Best Regards,
Bill
Dateline: Bloomington, IN

Jpmunroe33

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Jul 25, 2001, 9:04:45 AM7/25/01
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Mr. Cook,

Will Blast! be appearing on Letterman in the future? This would seem ideal due
to the close proximity of the theaters. Please advise us on RAMD if they will
be.

Rick and Sue Deschene

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Jul 25, 2001, 10:30:14 AM7/25/01
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Ron Allard wrote:
>
> Rick and Sue Deschene said:
>
> >> I have no information that Blast! will ever be on Rosie's show. The "Rosie"
> >> note was just as perplexing to me as it was to everyone else.This Saturday,
> >> Blast is supposed be on NBC's "Weekend Today" show.
> >
> >So you can't confirm or deny what George said? Well, that's interesting.
> >I would think that if anyone would know, it would be you.
> >
> >It would be nice to know if there was any truth to it--say, Rosie was
> >approached, but she said "no can do" . . . and the "no can do" was
> >because of the use of weapons, or for some other reason--or if that was
> >total fiction. If it was total fiction--or even if she declined but for
> >some reason other than the "weapons" issue--then I think George owes the
> >drum corps community (and Rosie) a public retraction.
> >
> >Sue
>
> If I read the article right, it wasn't George who mentioned Rosie, but
> the writer of the article?
>
It sure looks to me like they're attributing the comment to George.
Here's the paragraph in question:

"We grew up with it [military heritage], so we don't think anything
about the fact that we use swords and rifles, but people who are new to
the event can't understand why we use weapons," Hopkins said, citing the
example of TV talk show host Rosie O'Donnell, who refused to do a
promotion for Blast!, the Broadway-based show that grew from the Star of
Indiana, because it uses guns and sabers.

Sue

Stuart Rice

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Jul 25, 2001, 10:41:34 AM7/25/01
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Well, we've come full circle. "We're 'through the looking glass'
here, people."

Rick and Sue Deschene <rdes...@recorder.ca> wrote in message news:<3B5E3AE2...@recorder.ca>...

> Actually, it didn't just show up in a posting here on RAMD; the quote
> originated with George's comments in an interview posted on the Blue
> Devils website:
>
> Interview with George Hopkins
> http://www.bluedevils.org/programs/a/2001/hopkins.asp
>
> The article quotes George as saying she "refused to do a promotion for
> Blast!, . . . because it uses guns and sabers." Now, whether that means
> she refused to have them on her show, or refused to do some other
> promotional gig, I don't know. The wording is a bit vague. Any idea,
> Bill?

A Blast!-related anonymous source says Blast! officials cannot explain
how the "rifle-rejection" theory is related to Rosie. Suddenly, I'm
wishing I could remember what Kevin Coster was saying about the
bullet/s that struck JFK.

Ron Allard writes:

>If I read the article right it wasn't George who mentioned Rosie, but


the writer of >the article?

Ron is right, of course - the article reads:

Interviewed at a picnic hosted by the Blue Devils for the Cadets in
Walnut Creek, CA, Hopkins said the call to no more arms should be a
serious one for fans who care about drum corps. "We grew up with it,


so we don't think anything about the fact that we use swords and
rifles, but people who are new to the event can't understand why we
use weapons," Hopkins said, citing the example of TV talk show host

Rosie O'Donnell, who refused to do a promotion for Blast!, the
Broadway-based show that grew from the Star of Indiana, because it
uses guns and sabers.

Could be a BD botch, could be a Hopkins blunder. But one of them
wasn't being very careful with their information, it seems.

Stuart

Rick and Sue Deschene

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Jul 25, 2001, 11:58:16 AM7/25/01
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Stuart Rice wrote:
>
> Well, we've come full circle. "We're 'through the looking glass'
> here, people."
>
Newspeak, anyone?

True. I sure hope somebody verified this information prior to
publication. If not, that's pretty sloppy journalism.

The way I read the paragraph, it attributes the Rosie comment to George
even if it doesn't do so with a direct quote. The direct quote from
George re: military heritage is followed by him citing the example of
Rosie. Now, what specifically he said is anybody's guess, since yes, it
was paraphrased by the author of the article (whoever that is). However,
that's fairly standard practice in news writing. If we quoted every
single thing a person said, it would make for long, tedious, monotonous
reading. Paraphrasing allows a story to read more smoothly. But, of
course, it also opens itself up to interpretation and lack of clarity as
to who really said what. I can see this scenario: George makes his
statement about military heritage, and the person interviewing him says,
"Oh, you mean like what happened with Rosie O'Donnell and Blast!" And
George replies, "Yes, like that." But you can't quote the writer; we're
not supposed to insert ourselves into the story. So all you can do is
rewrite it to look like it was something George came up with on his own.

Sue

Rick and Sue Deschene

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Jul 26, 2001, 1:08:58 PM7/26/01
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> Yep...
> The "citing..." part is rather ambiguous, IMO...
>
> I'd like to see the actual quote before I came to a conclusion,
> considering the writer's penchant for expounding throughout the
> article...
> (Shrug)
>
True enough. That was something that Kathy Martin pointed out earlier.
And you're both right; there's a lot of unnecessary editorializing in
this article. It would be interesting to see who actually wrote it, and
hear or read a transcript of the actual interview.

Sue

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