[OT] Two airplanes crash into World Trade Center
Frank Raymond Michaels
PJ
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Oh my God - just saw it on TV. This is just awful, horrible, terrifying.
PJ
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Steve Pritchard
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> Oh my God - just saw it on TV. This is just awful, horrible, terrifying.
We're just getting the news here - just seen footage of a plane crash
through the second tower.
Our newsreaders have just said that they have heard a third passenger plane
has also been reported as hijacked/stolen.
Steve Pritchard
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And now we have pictures of something burning close by the Pentagon building
in Washington.
Anyone know anything?
Some Palestinian terrorist group appears to be claiming responsibility
according to early reports.
Frank Raymond Michaels
Just heard on the news that a plane has struck the Pentagon.
There is also a fire at the Washington Mall.
It appears the United States is under concerted terrorist attack.
If you are a person who prays, I'd ask you to join me -- I am praying
now for the victims and their families.
I'm also praying that cool heads prevail once all the facts are in.
---
FRM
PJ
I'm with you, been praying since I heard it. And it just keeps getting
worse. All airports - ALL airports - in the U.S. have been completely shut
down. With good reason.
God help us all.
PJ
--
Alan Hope
programme, like this one from Steve Pritchard, calling from
misc.writing:
Third plane reported crashed into pentagon building. White house,
capitol, treasury evacuated. all US airports closed for seven hours at
least.
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AH
Alan Hope
>Third plane reported crashed into pentagon building. White house,
>capitol, treasury evacuated. all US airports closed for seven hours at
>least.
New explosion at ground level near WTC, NYC.
State department fire: building evacuated.
--
AH
Steve Pritchard
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> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> programme, like this one from Alan Hope, calling from misc.writing:
One of the towers has collapsed.
God, that's going to be devastating.
Frank Raymond Michaels
I work in Manhattan (midtown, nowhere near the WTC) but I've been busy
informing my family that I'm home and OK.
I know people who work in the WTC -- I'm praying they're OK.
----
FRM
Paul Heslop
Well, what can we say? My thoughts and prayers that all our friends over
there are going to get through this and that there is no more
devastation.
I don't think there's anything else to say.
--
Paul.
ing
CBC radio has a person down there who's reporting people
jumping from high up in the building ....
this is incredibly horrible .... how'd a plane get so close
to the World Trade centre ... terrorist attacks on
a number of fronts they just now said
Alan Hope
CNN reports explosion on Capitol Hill.
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AH
Paul Heslop
Yeah, lady says it is just an aftershock or something, not a new attack
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Alan Hope
American reports one plane was its Boston - LA flight
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AH
Frank Raymond Michaels
The State Department has also been hit.
---
FRM
ing
>
> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> programme, like this one from ing, calling from misc.writing:
>
> >CBC radio has a person down there who's reporting people
> >jumping from high up in the building ....
> >this is incredibly horrible .... how'd a plane get so close
> >to the World Trade centre ... terrorist attacks on
> >a number of fronts they just now said
>
> American reports one plane was its Boston - LA flight
I just heard that now too ... somebody says it might have
been hijacked -- else how come the attack on the Pentagon
just a few
minutes later.
God help all those people who've been hurt and killed. No
explosion at the Capitol, CBC says now -- someone reporting
on the scene in Washington ...
>
> --
> AH
Frank Raymond Michaels
The second tower has just collapsed.
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FRM
Paul Heslop
tower 2 gone... and some bastard has just posted in a local newsgroup
asking why we are upset as it is nothing to do with us.
ing
>
>
> American reports one plane was its Boston - LA flight
>
The second tower just collapsed in New York.
There are no words to express this ....
Steve Pritchard
Now the second tower has gone.
How many emergency services will have been caught in that?
Jeez, I don't do prayer but I've got everything crossed that the folks from
mw that live over in NY are safe.
PJ
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> Alan Hope wrote:
> > >CBC radio has a person down there who's reporting people
> > >jumping from high up in the building ....
> > >this is incredibly horrible .... how'd a plane get so close
> > >to the World Trade centre ... terrorist attacks on
> > >a number of fronts they just now said
> >
> > American reports one plane was its Boston - LA flight
>
> I just heard that now too ... somebody says it might have
> been hijacked -- else how come the attack on the Pentagon
> just a few minutes later.
>
> God help all those people who've been hurt and killed. No
> explosion at the Capitol, CBC says now -- someone reporting
> on the scene in Washington ...
It appears this was a strategically and horrifically planned terrorist
attack on several major U.S. targets. It is both shocking and devastating -
thousands of lives have undoubtedly been lost. It's also frightening that
there's no way to know when it will end.
My prayers are with everyone who has been touched in any way by this
unbelievable disaster.
Paul Heslop
Sky has it that there's another plane heading for washington
PJ
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> ing wrote:
> >
> > Alan Hope wrote:
> > >
> > > Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> > > programme, like this one from ing, calling from misc.writing:
> > >
> >
> > > >CBC radio has a person down there who's reporting people
> > > >jumping from high up in the building ....
> > > >this is incredibly horrible .... how'd a plane get so close
> > > >to the World Trade centre ... terrorist attacks on
> > > >a number of fronts they just now said
> > >
> > > American reports one plane was its Boston - LA flight
> >
> > I just heard that now too ... somebody says it might have
> > been hijacked -- else how come the attack on the Pentagon
> > just a few
> > minutes later.
> >
> > God help all those people who've been hurt and killed. No
> > explosion at the Capitol, CBC says now -- someone reporting
> > on the scene in Washington ...
> tower 2 gone... and some bastard has just posted in a local newsgroup
> asking why we are upset as it is nothing to do with us.
> --
> Paul. (Poet, artist, philosopher... he he hehhhhhh!!)
There will always be assholes who do things like that Paul. Please, ignore
him and anyone like him. To acknowledge this type of stupidity and
insensitivity publicly validates him and his sick mind.
PJ
for Stan - he's undoubtedly right in the middle of all this.
Whazzat
Stan probably has details he's far to busy to post.
PJ
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> Stan probably has details he's far to busy to post.
Stan is at shotgun training today. I doubt we'll be hearing from him for a
while but please keep him in your thoughts and prayers.
Frank Raymond Michaels
>Please EVERYONE, whether you're a praying person or not, please say a prayer
>for Stan - he's undoubtedly right in the middle of all this.
FYI, Stan's a Nassau County officer -- that's Long Island, not NYC.
I've emailed him to ask if everyone's OK.
---
FRM
PJ
I know he's Nassau County, but I suspected that they'd pull together all
police and fire resources for a disaster like this. Maybe not - but it would
seem so. He can't answer your email though because he had shotgun training
today.
PJ
--
Steve Pritchard
> Sky has it that there's another plane heading for washington
Planes down in Pittsburg?
Something in Pensylvania?
Car bombs in the streets - this is starting to sound incredible.
Whazzat
>On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:40:10 +0100, "Steve Pritchard"
><S_Pri...@shef.rage.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote in message
>>news:pion7.101692$K6.40493565@news2...
>>> "Frank Raymond Michaels" <fra...@i-2000.com> wrote in message
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>>> > <http://www.cnn.com>
>>>
>>> Oh my God - just saw it on TV. This is just awful, horrible, terrifying.
>>
>>We're just getting the news here - just seen footage of a plane crash
>>through the second tower.
>>
>>Our newsreaders have just said that they have heard a third passenger plane
>>has also been reported as hijacked/stolen.
>
>Just heard on the news that a plane has struck the Pentagon.
>
>There is also a fire at the Washington Mall.
>
>It appears the United States is under concerted terrorist attack.
>
>If you are a person who prays, I'd ask you to join me -- I am praying
>now for the victims and their families.
>
>I'm also praying that cool heads prevail once all the facts are in.
The time for cool heads has passed, Frank. You are witnessing the
start of a world war. I would not care to be wearing a turban at this
time.
Blanche Nonken
Stan's in Long Island. I'm waiting to hear if a friend that works at
the WTC has survived, and if a friend at the State Department is ok.
The Last Real Marlboro Man
Alan Hope
misc.writing:
>Jeez, I don't do prayer but I've got everything crossed that the folks from
>mw that live over in NY are safe.
Can we take a roll-call?
--
AH
gekko
> <http://www.cnn.com>
That site is swamped. Can't seem to get into any of the major news
sites.
My brother-in-law works in the city. He's an elevator installation
technician. Needless to say, he works in highrises.
He's okay, but he's stuck in the city, in Times Square.
--
gekko
43rd Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr sh: segmentation
violation - core dumped
Alan Hope
>Please EVERYONE, whether you're a praying person or not, please say a prayer
>for Stan - he's undoubtedly right in the middle of all this.
While you're praying -- go out and give a pint of blood.
--
AH
Alan Hope
--
AH
ing
>
>
> My prayers are with everyone who has been touched in any way by this
> unbelievable disaster.
>
The tragedy is the people ... how many were in those buildings.
I can't seem to find anybody saying what time it hit -- was it
just after 9 am or 8 am NY time? When folks had just
started work. The death toll seems sure to be gigantic in NY.
Someone has just this second likened the attack to Pearl
Harbour....am terrified this will start a real world war
....
gekko
I've only heard things. Hijacked planes from Boston, crashed
into the buildings. Car bomb near the White House, and a
US helicopter landing on the Pentagon and exploding.
All airports shut down. NYSE shut down. Manhattan sealed off
except for emergency crews. All firefighters and emergency personnel
from all over NY called in to help.
Saw footage on a television monitor here tuned to ABC news, but they
were at the point of repeating things, showing taped footage of the
second tower's fall and getting viewpoints from their on-the-scene
reporters who are saying things like, "I'm okay." instead of anything
that would mean something to the rest of the world.
doyle
Am. And if everyone would, my nephew who's a NYC fireman, and my niece
who's a NYC cop.
--
Donna
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ing
>
> war
I pray hard that you're wrong ... but I'm afraid you're right.
PJ
> The Last Real Marlboro Man wrote:
> >
> > war
>
> I pray hard that you're wrong ... but I'm afraid you're right.
He is right. We all know it. It's too horrific to acknowledge, but we must.
PJ
gekko
>
> The time for cool heads has passed, Frank. You are witnessing the
> start of a world war. I would not care to be wearing a turban at this
> time.
NO!
The time for cool heads is NOW. NOW. More than any other time,
THIS is when they are needed.
No need for any sort of war. Find those responsible. Ensure they
are responsible. Have them make amends and reparations. Remove
their ability to murder again.
No one else need get involved in any violent way.
Steve Pritchard
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I think it's safe to say our thoughts are with everyone involved.
Hope you hear from them soon, Donna.
I'm Skip & You're Not
ing <ing.b...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Someone has just this second likened the attack to Pearl
>Harbour....am terrified this will start a real world war
World War III began about two months ago in Israel.
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-- Samuel Goldwyn
All the best,
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Steve Pritchard
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> war
But with who?
If it is Palestinian, then it is going to be very, very messy indeed and the
religious implications are going to be off the scale of anything we've ever
witnessed before.
ing
If they'll ship it south, I'll do it today, gladly.
CBC said a second ago that USAF jets are trying to take down
a hijacked plane on it's way to the Pentagon.... this is
unbelievable
ing
>
> <attrib>Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way before it is understood. Whazzat <spe...@sonny.heh>, who posted in misc.writing on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:23:28 -0600 demonstrates this principle in this way:</attrib>
> >
> > The time for cool heads has passed, Frank. You are witnessing the
> > start of a world war. I would not care to be wearing a turban at this
> > time.
>
> NO!
>
> The time for cool heads is NOW. NOW. More than any other time,
> THIS is when they are needed.
Gekko's right. totally right. No one knows who did this
yet.
People gotta stay calm.... most of all stay calm.
Steve Pritchard
> The tragedy is the people ... how many were in those buildings.
> I can't seem to find anybody saying what time it hit -- was it
> just after 9 am or 8 am NY time? When folks had just
> started work. The death toll seems sure to be gigantic in NY.
50000 people are reported to work in those towers, and, as far as I can
tell, it was shortly before 9am NY time.
The death toll is going to be massive.
> Someone has just this second likened the attack to Pearl
> Harbour....am terrified this will start a real world war
Let us hope not.
Jenna C. Thomas-McKie
>
> "PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote:
> > Please EVERYONE, whether you're a praying person or not, please say a
> prayer
> > for Stan - he's undoubtedly right in the middle of all this.
> Am. And if everyone would, my nephew who's a NYC fireman, and my niece
> who's a NYC cop.
I'm already praying constantly, Donna, for everyone, but I'll say a
special prayer for individuals mentioned here.
(I have a friend who works 4 blocks from the White House. Got email
from her that she's safe, and has been sent home for the day.)
--
Jenna Thomas-McKie
jth...@aug.edu
"We can think. We can reason. We can be better than we are."
- C. Eric Lincoln
Deck Deckert
For all those so eager for war, remember the Oklahoma City bombing?
Let's not jump to conclusions.
Deck
ing
All airports in Canada now closed except for accepting incoming
flights of planes that were destined for US airports. We're
taking them all in -- but nothing's allowed to take off.
This just in a second ago
Whazzat
>"Whazzat" <spe...@sonny.heh> wrote in message
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>
>> Stan probably has details he's far to busy to post.
>
>Stan is at shotgun training today. I doubt we'll be hearing from him for a
>while but please keep him in your thoughts and prayers.
I would expect they'd recall everybody to help out. Don't expect to
hear from Stan for the better part of a week at least.
Sara
I've been glued to the TV for the past two hours. I don't think I
started crying until the first building collapsed. Now I'm just numb,
and shaking. Such incredible evil. Praying that nothing is about to
happen in SF, now that the West coast is waking up. I hope we can all
go at least one day without fighting amongst each other, please.
Sara
Frank Raymond Michaels
No, I disagree, now is EXACTLY the time for cool heads.
We should find the people responsible, and only them, and remove their
ability to repeat any such action.
---
FRM
Steve Pritchard
I hope Dubya is as calm about this. Here is his first major test.
Alex Jay Berman
Michaels) wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:35:43 GMT, "PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote:
>
>>Please EVERYONE, whether you're a praying person or not, please say a prayer
>>for Stan - he's undoubtedly right in the middle of all this.
>
>FYI, Stan's a Nassau County officer -- that's Long Island, not NYC.
>I've emailed him to ask if everyone's OK.
>---
>FRM
>
Thing is, we can't expect a check-in from him; he'll be busy as hell
no matter the situation--remember, he has kids to worry about.
Alex Jay Berman
PJ
I doubt that anyone would ever say they want war. This is a time for cool
heads, I agree. But I can't imagine the horrendous pressure President Bush
and all the other national leaders are under right now. No matter which way
we voted, or whether we like them or not, we have to acknowledge that
they're facing the handling of this disaster in a way none of us has to.
They're in my prayers as well.
PJ
--
I'm Skip & You're Not
Deck Deckert <deckd...@adelphia.net> wrote:
What jump? Osama Bin Laden said two months ago he would do something in
NY and it would be big.
I vote for a Taliban parking lot in Kabul, Afghanistan.
--
I always start writing with a clean piece of paper
and a dirty mind.
-- Patrick Dennis
Hound of Cullen
<slrn9ps91k....@user1.inficad.com>:
>
> That site is swamped. Can't seem to get into any of the major news
> sites.
The british news sites are less swamped:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ has pretty good coverage.
Hound
I'm Skip & You're Not
"PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote:
>I doubt that anyone would ever say they want war. This is a time for cool
>heads, I agree. But I can't imagine the horrendous pressure President Bush
>and all the other national leaders are under right now. No matter which way
>we voted, or whether we like them or not, we have to acknowledge that
>they're facing the handling of this disaster in a way none of us has to.
>They're in my prayers as well.
Only a fool voted for Al Gore.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of idiots out there.
--
He who would do good to another must do it in Minute Particulars: General Good is the plea of the scoundrel, hypocrite and flatterer; for Art and Science cannot exist but in minutely organized Particulars.
-- William Blake (1757-1827)
Frank Raymond Michaels
President Bush has some very good, experienced people around him.
Though I doubt any president since Franklin Roosevelt has had a test
like this. My prayers are going out to him and his people as well.
----
FRM
Paul Heslop
>
> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> misc.writing:
>
> >Jeez, I don't do prayer but I've got everything crossed that the folks from
> >mw that live over in NY are safe.
>
> Can we take a roll-call?
>
> --
> AH
I want so dearly for everybody to put their hands up. You have a bit of
panic over here, but I can't express how weird this feels. There's kids
playing outside, though I am aware of the silence from the skies (we are
under a flight path) it is almost surreal. Of course we have folks
pulling out Nostradamus quotes left right and centre too.
--
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Paul Heslop
>
> "Paul Heslop" <paul....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3B9E2002...@cableinet.co.uk...
> > Sky has it that there's another plane heading for washington
>
> Planes down in Pittsburg?
>
> Something in Pensylvania?
>
> Car bombs in the streets - this is starting to sound incredible.
One plane still really unaccounted for apparently.
Paul Heslop
I agree that we need to handle this so very very well. Once they find
out who and what I would certainly be happy to see vengeance be taken,
but I don't think even George will let this get too crazy (except a lot
of my Brit friends think he is mad enough to push the button.)
gekko
>
> All airports in Canada now closed except for accepting incoming
> flights of planes that were destined for US airports. We're
> taking them all in -- but nothing's allowed to take off.
> This just in a second ago
I'm sorry for those stuck in airports, attempting to go see
dying grandfathers and sons who are to be married. I'm sorry
that they cannot get there. But ...
when I read quotes like this:
<Name elided> was flying to Chicago on United when
her flight got canceled. "This is terrible," she said. "I
need to get home. My son is getting married."
I have an ugly reaction. This is terrible because she
can't get home?
Bob Pastorio
Report on CNN just now:
Islamic Jihad spokesman says they did it in response to American foreign
policy. I'd still suggest caution. Every crackpot group in the world
will claim credit for it.
Let's wait a bit before we decide much about it.
--
Bob Pastorio
http://www.pastorio.com
PJ
news:skip_pressSPAMNOT-D...@nnrp02.earthlink.net...
> In article <%8qn7.102022$K6.40547591@news2>,
> "PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >I doubt that anyone would ever say they want war. This is a time for cool
> >heads, I agree. But I can't imagine the horrendous pressure President
Bush
> >and all the other national leaders are under right now. No matter which
way
> >we voted, or whether we like them or not, we have to acknowledge that
> >they're facing the handling of this disaster in a way none of us has to.
> >They're in my prayers as well.
>
> Only a fool voted for Al Gore.
>
> Unfortunately, there are a lot of idiots out there.
>
what's going on?
PJ
PJ
news:slrn9psbnu....@user1.inficad.com...
> ing <ing.b...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> > All airports in Canada now closed except for accepting incoming
> > flights of planes that were destined for US airports. We're
> > taking them all in -- but nothing's allowed to take off.
> > This just in a second ago
>
> I'm sorry for those stuck in airports, attempting to go see
> dying grandfathers and sons who are to be married. I'm sorry
> that they cannot get there. But ...
>
> when I read quotes like this:
>
> <Name elided> was flying to Chicago on United when
> her flight got canceled. "This is terrible," she said. "I
> need to get home. My son is getting married."
>
> I have an ugly reaction. This is terrible because she
> can't get home?
>
is the shock and disbelief that she's (and we're all) feeling right now.
People aren't thinking clearly. This is just too horrific for anyone to
comprehend right now.
Hippolyte Lizard
> <attrib>Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of
the way before it is understood. Whazzat <spe...@sonny.heh>, who posted in
misc.writing on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:23:28 -0600 demonstrates this principle
in this way:</attrib>
> >
> > The time for cool heads has passed, Frank. You are witnessing the
> > start of a world war. I would not care to be wearing a turban at this
> > time.
>
> NO!
>
> The time for cool heads is NOW. NOW. More than any other time,
> THIS is when they are needed.
>
> No need for any sort of war. Find those responsible. Ensure they
> are responsible. Have them make amends and reparations. Remove
> their ability to murder again.
>
> No one else need get involved in any violent way.
Whazzat and others who think like him need to wake up and understand
something. The Palestinians don't wear turbans, and for all we know Bin
Laden wears hair curlers under his. These are not Muslims any more than
some idiot who caps an abortionist is a Christian. These are people who
have confused their religion, their nationalism, and their paranoid hatred
of Zionism into a fire of destructive will against the world's one great
secular nation. We are indeed entering an era of world war but it is unlike
any seen before, for the enemy is very small in number and completely
determined, and will always use the lives of innocents as both their sheath
and their shield.
But hot fires burn quickly, and I think we'll find theirs can be quenched if
we take the gloves off for once and, once we've verified the real targets,
don't pussyfoot around with them. And as for Palestinian independence,
forget it. Those people are going to learn the meaning of one step forward,
ten steps back.
HL
Whazzat
>PJ wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> My prayers are with everyone who has been touched in any way by this
>> unbelievable disaster.
>>
>
>The tragedy is the people ... how many were in those buildings.
>I can't seem to find anybody saying what time it hit -- was it
>just after 9 am or 8 am NY time? When folks had just
>started work. The death toll seems sure to be gigantic in NY.
>
>Someone has just this second likened the attack to Pearl
>Harbour....am terrified this will start a real world war
>....
It is nothing like the attack on Pearl Harbor. These were CIVILIANS
who were killed, not military.
Bob Pastorio
Splendidly said and unutterably sad and inescapably true.
Whazzat
With all due respect Deck (and that is sincere), there is no
similarity. We are talking about a half dozen suicide missions here,
and those do not originate in the US. This is something we all know
but some prefer not to admit until it's smeared across our faces.
Isn't a terrorist war against the US something that's been talked
about innumerable times as a possibility over the past 10 years? You
know it is as well as I know it is. Well now it has started.
Whazzat
><attrib>Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way before it is understood. Whazzat <spe...@sonny.heh>, who posted in misc.writing on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:23:28 -0600 demonstrates this principle in this way:</attrib>
>>
>> The time for cool heads has passed, Frank. You are witnessing the
>> start of a world war. I would not care to be wearing a turban at this
>> time.
>
>NO!
>
>The time for cool heads is NOW. NOW. More than any other time,
>THIS is when they are needed.
>
>No need for any sort of war. Find those responsible. Ensure they
>are responsible. Have them make amends and reparations. Remove
>their ability to murder again.
>
>No one else need get involved in any violent way.
You go ahead and be Christian about it, gekko. Remove their ability
to murder again by obliterating them.
Whazzat
>gekko wrote:
>>
>> <attrib>Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way before it is understood. Whazzat <spe...@sonny.heh>, who posted in misc.writing on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:23:28 -0600 demonstrates this principle in this way:</attrib>
>> >
>> > The time for cool heads has passed, Frank. You are witnessing the
>> > start of a world war. I would not care to be wearing a turban at this
>> > time.
>>
>> NO!
>>
>> The time for cool heads is NOW. NOW. More than any other time,
>> THIS is when they are needed.
>
>Gekko's right. totally right. No one knows who did this
>yet.
>People gotta stay calm.... most of all stay calm.
Absolutely stay calm, vengance is a dish best eaten cold.
Whazzat
>Alan Hope wrote:
>>
>> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
>> programme, like this one from PJ, calling from misc.writing:
>>
>> >Please EVERYONE, whether you're a praying person or not, please say a prayer
>> >for Stan - he's undoubtedly right in the middle of all this.
>>
>> While you're praying -- go out and give a pint of blood.
>>
>
>
>If they'll ship it south, I'll do it today, gladly.
>
>CBC said a second ago that USAF jets are trying to take down
>a hijacked plane on it's way to the Pentagon.... this is
>unbelievable
What's unbelievable is how the fighter pilots are going to feel if
they have to shoot down an American passenger plane because it's been
hijacked.
Alma Hromic Deckert
wrote:
><attrib>Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way before it is understood. Whazzat <spe...@sonny.heh>, who posted in misc.writing on Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:23:28 -0600 demonstrates this principle in this way:</attrib>
>>
>> The time for cool heads has passed, Frank. You are witnessing the
>> start of a world war. I would not care to be wearing a turban at this
>> time.
>
>NO!
>
>The time for cool heads is NOW. NOW. More than any other time,
>THIS is when they are needed.
>
god, yes, the time for cool heads is not before a catastrophe, but
after.
like an echo, i keep on hearing that kid deck and i encountered on top
of the empire state building, less than two months ago - the little
boy was holding his dad's hand and asking, in that loud stage whisper
that children think is being quiet, "daaaaad? if this place fell down,
would it, like, kill anybody...?"
god help me, people standing close enough to overhear smiled at it.
now... now i keep seeing those towers come down and hearing a childish
voice asking that question...
A. (in shock)
Alma Hromic Deckert
wrote:
>"PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:3jpn7.101972$K6.40525795@news2...
>> Please EVERYONE, whether you're a praying person or not, please say a
>prayer
>> for Stan - he's undoubtedly right in the middle of all this.
>>
>> PJ
>>
>> Peggy J. Parks
>> PJ Parks Communications
>> www.pjparks.com
>
>Am. And if everyone would, my nephew who's a NYC fireman, and my niece
>who's a NYC cop.
oh, donna. <hug>
my thoughts are with the people who have to deal with this on the
ground. it must be apocalyptic in manhattan right now.
A.
Bob Pastorio
And it's just now coming up on 9am in California.
NYC has lost all but one broadcast TV station, as most antennae are, or
rather were, atop the WTC.
JAH
<uwtiuzp...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>war
My husband has already told me he's re-enlisting in the Marines.
JAH
Today is the future in the past
http://www.netcrimes.net
TaniO
(in message <9f9sptgbh5qntjrop...@4ax.com>):
> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> programme, like this one from Steve Pritchard, calling from
> misc.writing:
>
>> Jeez, I don't do prayer but I've got everything crossed that the folks from
>> mw that live over in NY are safe.
>
> Can we take a roll-call?
>
>
>
>
I live in Greenwich Village--could look straight from roof to WTC with
nothing in between. I heard first plane crash --went to roof and watched
everything after that. Still can't believe it's real. Only damage here is
smoke and ash.
I have real detached feeling at moment. The only thing isthe images burned
on retina when I close my eyes and the moaning sounds of the crowds as the
towers collapsed.
TaniO
Whazzat
>On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:23:28 -0600, Whazzat <spe...@sonny.heh> wrote:
>
>>fra...@i-2000.com (Frank Raymond Michaels) wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:40:10 +0100, "Steve Pritchard"
>>><S_Pri...@shef.rage.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:pion7.101692$K6.40493565@news2...
>>>>> "Frank Raymond Michaels" <fra...@i-2000.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:3b9dd72b...@groups.i-2000.com...
>>>>> > <http://www.cnn.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh my God - just saw it on TV. This is just awful, horrible, terrifying.
>>>>
>>>>We're just getting the news here - just seen footage of a plane crash
>>>>through the second tower.
>>>>
>>>>Our newsreaders have just said that they have heard a third passenger plane
>>>>has also been reported as hijacked/stolen.
>>>
>>>Just heard on the news that a plane has struck the Pentagon.
>>>
>>>There is also a fire at the Washington Mall.
>>>
>>>It appears the United States is under concerted terrorist attack.
>>>
>>>If you are a person who prays, I'd ask you to join me -- I am praying
>>>now for the victims and their families.
>>>
>>>I'm also praying that cool heads prevail once all the facts are in.
>>
>>The time for cool heads has passed, Frank. You are witnessing the
>>start of a world war. I would not care to be wearing a turban at this
>>time.
>
>No, I disagree, now is EXACTLY the time for cool heads.
>
>We should find the people responsible, and only them, and remove their
>ability to repeat any such action.
We should eradicate every terrorist nest in the world along with those
who support them. You know it'll happen sooner or later, let's get it
over with.
Frank Raymond Michaels
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:59:03 -0400, "doyle" <dfd...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
>"PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:3jpn7.101972$K6.40525795@news2...
>> Please EVERYONE, whether you're a praying person or not, please say a
>prayer
>> for Stan - he's undoubtedly right in the middle of all this.
>>
>> PJ
>>
>> Peggy J. Parks
>> PJ Parks Communications
>> www.pjparks.com
>
>Am. And if everyone would, my nephew who's a NYC fireman, and my niece
>who's a NYC cop.
>
>--
>Donna
>-----------------
>
>
>
I'm Skip & You're Not
"PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote:
>"I'm Skip & You're Not" <skip_pre...@excite.com> wrote in message
>news:skip_pressSPAMNOT-D...@nnrp02.earthlink.net...
>> In article <%8qn7.102022$K6.40547591@news2>,
>> "PJ" <peggy...@home.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I doubt that anyone would ever say they want war. This is a time for cool
>> >heads, I agree. But I can't imagine the horrendous pressure President
>Bush
>> >and all the other national leaders are under right now. No matter which
>way
>> >we voted, or whether we like them or not, we have to acknowledge that
>> >they're facing the handling of this disaster in a way none of us has to.
>> >They're in my prayers as well.
>>
>> Only a fool voted for Al Gore.
>>
>> Unfortunately, there are a lot of idiots out there.
>>
>Think maybe we could bag the political discussions for now in light of
>what's going on?
Bag yourself. You're obviously a fool who didn't believe it when Clinton
and Gore were busy betraying the country to very real forces who intend
on completely destroying us, at the top in Red China.
--
I am a typed director. If I made Cinderella, the audience would
immediately be looking for a body in the coach.
-- Alfred Hitchcock
Steve Pritchard
news:q3csptgicebc0paec...@4ax.com...
> We should eradicate every terrorist nest in the world along with those
> who support them. You know it'll happen sooner or later, let's get it
> over with.
The view on who or what are "terrorists" is never going to be clear.
Claims like that just aren't going to wash in some regions of the world, I'm
afraid.
Outrage is understandable but you have to start getting rational too.
Frank Raymond Michaels
the second building when everything took place. It took him nearly a
half-hour to evacuate, but he got out about 15 minutes before the
building came down.
----
FRM
Deck Deckert
>You go ahead and be Christian about it, gekko. Remove their ability
>to murder again by obliterating them.
My dear nameless one. The U.S. has been warring against half the world
for the last 50 years. This is not happening in a vaccuum. We just had
a war against Yugoslavia, we support the Israeli war on the
Palestinians, we are *still* at war against Iraq, bombing them several
times a week, Clinton bombed an aspirin factory just cuz, and a lot of
American militia types are still outraged by Ruby Ridge and Waco.
We've given a lot of people reason to hate us, and there are a lot of
candidates for this terrorist attack.
Calling for the "obliteration" of somebody, anybody just cuz you're
mad and that will make you feel better is irresponsible, immoral, and
totally self defeating.
Deck
Deck Deckert
Exactly. We needed Nader.
Deck
Frank Raymond Michaels
Gentlemen, do either of you truly think this is the time or place for
this?
---
FRM
Steve Pritchard
It is certainly not.
Blanche Nonken
> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> programme, like this one from Steve Pritchard, calling from
> misc.writing:
>
> >Jeez, I don't do prayer but I've got everything crossed that the folks from
> >mw that live over in NY are safe.
>
> Can we take a roll-call?
I'm fine. Report on KYW News Radio of a car bomb in Philly. That could
have been unrelated, or someone jumping on a bandwagon. Philly city
gov't shutting down.
Plane down outside of Pittsburgh - Somerset Airport. That's about 350
or so miles from me.
Blanche Nonken
> >war
>
> For all those so eager for war, remember the Oklahoma City bombing?
>
> Let's not jump to conclusions.
I'm not. Last I heard, all terrorist orgs were falling all over
themselves to deny responsibilities.
Sara
From what I'm getting from MSNBC and BBC America: 2 that crashed into
the WTC, 1 into the Pentagon, 2 crashed in PA, plus one more I'm not
sure where. United Airlines and American Airlines. Praying for my
friends and family members who work for UAL. I wouldn't be surprised
if, by this time next week, each of us knows someone either directly
or indirectly who was there or physically affected. God. I can't
comprehend this. I feel like I'm watching a movie, or newsreel
footage of something that happened a long time ago in another place.
Deck Deckert
>>Exactly. We needed Nader.
FRM wrote"
>Gentlemen, do either of you truly think this is the time or place for
>this?
Hell, the leadership of the country is always a worthy topic of
conversation, or part of a conversation.
Deck
ing
> when I read quotes like this:
>
> <Name elided> was flying to Chicago on United when
> her flight got canceled. "This is terrible," she said. "I
> need to get home. My son is getting married."
>
> I have an ugly reaction. This is terrible because she
> can't get home?
There will always be self-involved idiots around. What I
can't figure out it this ... there have been four (!)
CONFIRMED highjacked planes in the space of an hour. I
really thought that the one thing folks had almost totally
eliminated was the ability to hijack a plane. How the hell
did FOUR! of them get highjacked -- two evidently out of
Boston? This is amazing in itself. Howq did this happen?
CBC Radio has Michael Enright on the *afternoon* show
reporting on this. A total first for CBC -- like pulling in
Walter Cronkite ... and Michael's voice is shaking ... I've
never heard him so emotional. We're getting good reporting
on this.
ing
GailSeery
>From: "PJ" peggy...@home.com
>Date: 11/09/2001 15:35 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3jpn7.101972$K6.40525795@news2>
>
>Please EVERYONE, whether you're a praying person or not, please say a prayer
>for Stan - he's undoubtedly right in the middle of all this.
>
>PJ
>
I don't normally pray. But for Stan I will.
This is barbarity beyond reason.
My thoughts are with you all.
Gail
GailSeery
>Date: 11/09/2001 13:07 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3b9dfe5d...@groups.i-2000.com>
know who've been caught up in this.
Gail
Sara
a total of 4 plans. The 2 that crashed into the WTC, 1 in the
Pentagon, and the 1 down in PA. How 4 planes could be hijacked so
quickly...
GailSeery
>Date: 11/09/2001 15:55 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Xns91196EEA5CED...@24.12.106.199>
>
>war
>
>
Yes, of course. But against whom?
Gail
GailSeery
>Date: 11/09/2001 16:05 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9nl97o$83477$1...@ID-56527.news.dfncis.de>
>
>"The Last Real Marlboro Man" <uwtiuzp...@sneakemail.com> wrote in
>message news:Xns91196EEA5CED...@24.12.106.199...
>> war
>
>But with who?
>
>If it is Palestinian, then it is going to be very, very messy indeed and the
>religious implications are going to be off the scale of anything we've ever
>witnessed before.
>
I find it hard to believe, given my knowledge of the Middle East, that there is
a group with the reach and co-ordination to hit so effectively and in such a
co-ordinated manner. It is possible that things have changed dramatically over
just a few years, but it does hint at the involvement or backing of a
government somewhere.
In that case.....
Gail