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Chief Thracian

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Nov 20, 2003, 4:22:09 PM11/20/03
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My visions of queer witch hunt a.k.a. "worldwide anti-gay
holocaust"...starting with Muslims, then Christians and the
U.S....is coming to fulfillment, as suggested in these quotes
from a queer mailing list
<http://thelist.c.tep1.com/maabGnMaa2h5Tb6cvpvb/>:

From THE LIST
Washington, DC
November 19, 2003:

---begin quotes

Anti-gay hate groups, and several Republican party leaders,
had already made clear that if the Mass. court decision went
our way (which it did), they would push for an amendment to
the US Constitution that would do two things: ban gay
marriage; and likely repeal every single federal, state and
local gay rights law in the US (and block such laws from ever
being passed again). Whether you think we should be talking
about gay marriage at this point in history or not, gay
marriage now IS a national issue and there's no avoiding it.
The Republican party leaders and hate groups on the religious
right have made clear they hope to use equal rights for gays
as a wedge issue in the presidential election, whether we like
it or not....

Apparently it's "funny" now amongst Republicans to tell jokes
about gays and people with AIDS dying. That's what happened
recently when Florida Governor Jeb Bush, the brother of the US
president, joked about it being "good" that San Franciscans
were an "endangered species." All of Bush's claims to the
contrary, if he wasn't talking about gays and people with
AIDS, then exactly who was he talking about? And yet again,
note how the Democratic politicians laughed this one off. Do
you think the Republicans would have been so kind had Clinton
made a joke about evangelical Christians dying?...

One interesting aside. For years many of us have been saying
that it was only a matter of time before evangelical bigots
turned their hatred against others in American society, and
now they have. Reminds me of the famous quote:

"In Germany, the Nazis first came for the Communists, and I
didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came
for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the
Catholics, but I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left
to speak up for me." - Martin Niemoeller, Berlin Lutheran
pastor arrested by the Gestapo and sent to Dachau
concentration camp in 1938; the Allied forces freed him seven
years later.

---end of quotes

May I remind my readers, that Mr. Niemoeller did NOT include
the homosexuals. Who were the very FIRST to be targeted (not
the communists or even Jews). And we have yet to learn just
how many QUEERS from their own community, the Jewish turned
into the Nazis before THEY were targeted.

So, must we queers keep on posting this horrid quote? Are we
to ALWAYS be apologists for fag-bashing humanitarians? I would
hope not! It's ALL or NOTHING in my book, because the way I
see it, it HAS to be.

--
Give us marriage or give us death:
slay the beast of homophobia!
http://www.gay-bible.org

Mouldy Jester

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Nov 21, 2003, 12:01:16 AM11/21/03
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"Chief Thracian" <zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com> wrote in message
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And again, not a word about gnosticism or anything remotely close to it. How
odd.
--
Mouldy Jester

"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."

"Martyrdom is the only way in which a man can become famous without
ability."

-- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)


jetgraphics

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Dec 27, 2003, 6:32:20 PM12/27/03
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From the tagline, "Give us marriage or give us death" one would presume that
"marriage" is something that gives life meaning.

In research into what marriage is all about (not religious dogma), it was
clearly a legal mechanism for two adults to merge their property rights for
the benefit of progeny. Common law prerogatives such as curtesy and dower
could only occur IF there were children emitted from the marriage. In
short, without children, there's no legal benefit to the marriage. On death
of a spouse of a childless couple, the blood relatives had a better claim
to the property of the deceased than did the surviving spouse [when no
will exists].

Jump to the socialist present.
To appease the ignorant, special tax breaks and access to entitlements were
targeted to "married" people (enrolled in national socialism).

Frankly, without socialism, there's no need for "gay marriage". The
consenting adults could write wills that would pass property to whom they
wished, or hold property as joint tenants with right of survivorship.

The persecution of homosexuals who wish to enjoy benefits of socialism
reserved for heterosexual couples is but another example of the horrors
hidden in socialism. Socialism abolishes private property rights, and thus
makes it that much more difficult for people to pass property to whomever
they wish.

If, in the future, homosexuals do find a way to merge their dna into a
single progeny, that's when marriage makes sense. Until then, use contracts
and wills to pass property rights.

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