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Chief Thracian

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Oct 7, 2003, 5:45:09 AM10/7/03
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I LOVE GAY MECCA
(comedy sketch)

(c) 2003 by Zeke Krahlin


Let's give it up for Jehovah's Queer Witness! Rah!

(While putting on wings:)
How many queers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Ha? Huh? I
don't know either, but it better be a damn big lightbulb!

Whenever I do open mic, I am ALWAYS introduced as "Jehovah's
Queer Witness". And this rainbow sweater with the pink wings have
become my trademark. Along with this Walgreens dragonfly
refrigerator magnet.

The premise of my character is this: Jesus Christ returns to
planet earth, and he's queer as a Susan B. Anthony dollar bill.
So is his Dad, who is also his lover. And they're a couple of
wild and crazy fags.

So how does our Gay Lord make his second coming known to the
masses? Well, he starts out by appearing here and there at open
mics in San Francisco, as a queer standup comic and storyteller.

But he's not very good, though because his Holy Father's spoiled
him rotten (extreme favoritism, you know)...he honestly believes
he's REALLY talented. So how do I pull off playing such a
character? Well, I'm trying!

===============
(Become Jehovah's Queer witness:)

I rock you know. I'm what's happening, dudes...dudettes.

I love Gay Mecca! Every day's a great day, if you're gay... here
in San Francisco. And today was just another typical day for me:

My alarm goes off at 10:30am (I'm unemployed). I roll over and
yawn, when someone buzzes my door. Turns out to be eleven
gorgeous studs delivering me breakfast in bed! Topped off with a
yummy BJ by the slave of my choice...who straddles me the entire
time I butter my toast!

What a way to start the day, huh?

The I pull a triple S (shave shit and shower) and step
out...stroll down Market Street where I walk by this STUNNING
dude...upon whose arm, unfortunately, dangles a chic.

So I says to the lady: "Whoa, dear, I hope you don't mind my
saying this, but dammit, your boyfriend has the most gorgeous
basket I've ever seen on a dude!"

So the guy addresses her: "How come you never say nice things
like this, about me? Where has the romance gone?" Well, they get
into this argument, and I decide "uh-oh, I'd better scram", when
the cute dude tells me to wait up.

He dumps his fiancee for me...can you believe it? And the next
thing you know he's wining and dining me at the Top of the Mark!
He says: "You say such nice things about me. My ex, though, only
thinks about herself...me, me, me...what can my boyfriend do for
me today?"

"That's nice, honey" I say over my third glass of Sparkling
Ro-zay. "Please pass the caviar. And when you're done massaging
my feet, I could use another BJ. My semen's building up again.
You were pretty good last time--not knocking it--but I KNOW you
can do better!"

Well, before we depart, he gives me his card, proposing domestic
partnership. I says: "I'll think about it; don't know if I'm
ready to hang with a multi-millionaire yet...you know how us
renegade counter-culture types are. Let me get back to you."

And it's only 3pm...the day's not even half over! So I decide to
hang out for a while South of Market, at this gay biker bar, Hole
in the Wall, on 8th and Folsom.

There's a new bartender there, Donald, and boy does he make me
happy! Not only does he treat me to all the drinks and ganja I
want, but provides me with my own back room where he gives me the
best BJs I've had this entire week!

But all play and no work makes Jehovah's Queer Witness a dull
savior, so I decide to go home, and work on a new skit. But will
the bartenders and customers of Hole in the Wall let me leave
without first going down on me, each and every one? No, they will
not, God bless 'em! Each and every mouth, a luscious memory!

A hundred and five BJs in less than an hour. How do I do it? I
have no idea why I'm so virile! Leave it to Daddy's queer magic.
Well, just when I buckle my belt and am about to leave, this
bodacious police officer saunters on in, and says (peering around
in the dim light, fondling his handlebar mustachio):

"Where's this Jehovah's Queer Witness fellow who I just heard
back at the Mission station, has the most OUTSTANDING family
jewels this side of the Sierra Nevada?" Well, one thing quickly
leads to another, and I am delayed an ADDITIONAL several minutes
before I could really step out.

Walking home (for the exercise) is a mistake. What should be only
half an hour hike, takes two! I swear, a gorgeous, studly cop at
every corner offers to service me...and does! (In the nearest
doorway of course; I'm nothing if not discrete.)

So I have to just forget about writing that new skit this
evening...else I won't make it here tonight, for the show! So
that, folks, is just a brief list of the MANY reasons I love Gay
Mecca!

And now you ALSO know what queers like me on disability do with
all our spare time... besides trying our hand at stand-up comedy!
Thanks, you're a great audience, but I got fourteen muscle-bound
gang members waiting on the corner out there, dying to show me
their love. Ciao!

---finis

BONUS:

I recorded several messages left on my answering machine one day,
and saved them to an mp3-compressed wav-file. You can listen to the
recording here:

http://www.gay-bible.org/voicetracks/day-in-my-life._10-3-03.wav

It's 1/2 megabyte in size, 2 min. & 15 sec. in length.

Taste my world with your ears!

--
Zeke Krahlin for Queer President!
www.gay-bible.org/index.html#prez

penitent leper

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Oct 7, 2003, 11:55:08 AM10/7/03
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On 7 Oct 2003 02:45:09 -0700, zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com
(Chief Thracian) wrote:

The really queer thing about this guy is that he thinks he's funny.

- pl -

Roger Pearse

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Oct 8, 2003, 6:18:25 AM10/8/03
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zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com (Chief Thracian) wrote in message news:<d46ddbb9.03100...@posting.google.com>...

> I LOVE GAY MECCA
> (comedy sketch)

Is that where they do bent bingo?

All the best,

Roger Pearse

Baruch.

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Oct 11, 2003, 11:54:55 AM10/11/03
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Hi, Chief:

While I acknowledge the huge issues that exist in religions concerning gay
people ("queers" as you call them), I have to say that your offering wasn't
particularly funny. This has nothing to do with your rage against
traditional religion, which to me is thoroughly justified. It's simply that
your rage bleeds through into your humor, and that tends to take away from
the humor (IMNSHO).

FWIW, you appear to me to be one very *ANGRY* queer. Possibly your humor
resonates with others who share your anger and your queerness. I don't
know. But to an ordinary "breeder" such as myself, it comes across as very
bitter. And BTW, "breeders" are where queers come from, most of the time.
Everyone has a place here...

"Chief Thracian" <zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com> wrote in message
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Chief Thracian

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Oct 31, 2003, 3:50:27 AM10/31/03
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"Baruch." <bar...@N0blessedb.org$PAM> wrote in message news:<jJVhb.176459$3o3.13...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

> It's simply that
> your rage bleeds through into your humor, and that tends to take away from
> the humor (IMNSHO).

If you say so. However, the two times I've done this skit to the
public, there was nonstop laughter coming from my audience.

> And BTW, "breeders" are where queers come from, most of the time.

And where in this skit, have I use word "breeder"? You need a chill
pill. It IS a very funny sketch. My friends--both gay and
straight--crack up when I do my "I Love Gay Mecca" skit.

'Scuse me, but: your homophobia slip is showing.

---
Lavender-Velvet Revolution
http://www.gay-bible.org/

Chief Thracian

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Oct 31, 2003, 3:52:33 AM10/31/03
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roger_...@yahoo.co.uk (Roger Pearse) wrote in message news:<3a88eeea.0310...@posting.google.com>...

> All the best,
>
> Roger Pearse

Hey, brighten my day, why don't you?
;)

penitent leper

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Oct 31, 2003, 3:57:01 AM10/31/03
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On 31 Oct 2003 00:50:27 -0800,
zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com (Chief Thracian) wrote:

'Scuse me, but: your homophiliac oversensitivity slip is showing.
Your goddam "skit" wasn't funny.
And it has no place in alt.religion.gnostic.

- pl -

Mouldy Jester

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Oct 31, 2003, 5:25:21 AM10/31/03
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"penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
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I would love to know how ARG is even remotely linked to ARGLBT........apart
from both being religious, sort of.
--
Mouldy Jester

"I keep telling you, Gnosticism ain't dualistic."
-- Krag, (30th July, 2003)

"You are perhaps the most literal-minded idiot I've encountered in these
parts."
-- Krag, (referring to Kater, 11th Aug, 2003)


Chief Thracian

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Nov 6, 2003, 4:47:37 PM11/6/03
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penitent leper <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message news:<7r84qvcmpv0nk2l1h...@4ax.com>...

Poor baby. No humor, no joy in your life. Well, I've done my best. I'm
not here to coddle malicious souls.

> And it has no place in alt.religion.gnostic.

Oh, really? My dedication to Gnostic Christianity--which has evolved
into my art as a writer and comedian, through the experiences of a
queer activist (and thus is why I call myself "Jehovah's Queer
Witness")--has no relevance in a GNOSTIC newsgroup? And yet you claim
to NOT be homophobic (as if any gay perspectives of our creator are
worthless)?

I am amused! Gonna have a good laugh over this one, with my gay-bar
buddies.

Meanwhile, enjoy this tidbit:

JESUS HAS A WEB PAGE

Å  2000 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
(Jehovah's Queer Witness)

Jesus has a web page,
Of that I surely know.
I stayed up all night reading
Every New Age para-ble.

Jesus has a web page,
And I can point you there:
H T T P colon slash-slash, surf dot-to slash gaybible
And the home page will appear.

Jesus has a web page
Called "Final Testa-ment",
Sponsored by a free host
'Cause Jesus don't pay rent.

Jesus has a web page,
It's gonna blow your mind:
He says that he and daddy
Do the nasty all the time!

Jesus has a web page,
He's a faggot now I know,
'Cause he whipped it out in front of me,
And asked me for a blow!

Jesus has a web page,
And I can point you there:
H T T P colon slash-slash, surf dot-to slash gaybible
And the home page will appear.

---finis


---
Pennsylvania Dutch Gay Jesus says:
"Throw the hetero over the fence some hay."
http://www.gay-bible.org

penitent leper

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Nov 6, 2003, 9:03:42 PM11/6/03
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On 6 Nov 2003 13:47:37 -0800, zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com
(Chief Thracian) wrote:

>penitent leper <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message news:<7r84qvcmpv0nk2l1h...@4ax.com>...
>> On 31 Oct 2003 00:50:27 -0800,
>> zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com (Chief Thracian) wrote:
>
>> 'Scuse me, but: your homophiliac oversensitivity slip is showing.
>> Your goddam "skit" wasn't funny.
>
>Poor baby. No humor, no joy in your life. Well, I've done my best. I'm
>not here to coddle malicious souls.


Poor baby. No humor, only pseudo attempts at putting your non-humor
on a billboard for all to mock.

>> And it has no place in alt.religion.gnostic.
>
>Oh, really? My dedication to Gnostic Christianity--which has evolved
>into my art as a writer and comedian, through the experiences of a
>queer activist (and thus is why I call myself "Jehovah's Queer
>Witness")--has no relevance in a GNOSTIC newsgroup? And yet you claim
>to NOT be homophobic (as if any gay perspectives of our creator are
>worthless)?

I never claimed not to be homophobic. That's none of your business
anyway. The point is you posted off-topic non-humor to
alt.religion.gnostic. Don't need to be homophobic to know you're not
funny. Some of us here may be homophobes or not. Point is, you're
not funny and your skit was not about Gnosticism.

>I am amused! Gonna have a good laugh over this one, with my gay-bar
>buddies.

Glad your ego is stroked even by deserved mockery. Too bad for you.


Hah hah hah hah hah! Unfunniest shit I've ever read except for
your stupid Gay Mecca skit.

Consider yourself plonked, moron.

- pl -

Chief Thracian

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Nov 10, 2003, 2:28:01 AM11/10/03
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penitent leper <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message news:<5nulqvshrpu2dunqs...@4ax.com>...

> Poor baby. No humor, only pseudo attempts at putting your non-humor
> on a billboard for all to mock.

"All?" One insignificant twerpazoid (meaning yourself) does not a
majority make.

> I never claimed not to be homophobic.

I never claimed that YOU never claimed to NOT be mentally deranged,
ethically corrupt, and spiritually blind. Homophobia is one of the
greatest crimes to exist. To be PROUD of one's homophobia is likewise
a great hubris.

> That's none of your business

Wrong. I'm a gay activist, so it is ALL of my business. Just as racism
is ALL of a black-rights activist. It is my business because I choose
to be a spiritual warrior and defender of abused people, particularly
of sexual minorities. It is my business, because Christ calls me to
this honorable mission.

> anyway. The point is you posted off-topic non-humor to
> alt.religion.gnostic.

You already made that claim. And I already described why you are
incorrect. Yet you give no rational explanation why you think I am
off-topic.

> Don't need to be homophobic to know you're not
> funny.

Wrong. You most certainly do. That is how I structure my spoken word,
in my queer humor. I bring out whatever degree of homophobia a reader
or listener may have, if any.

> Point is, you're not funny and your skit was not about Gnosticism.

Wrong on both points. It is through my direct worship as a Gnostic
Christian, that I am called to enlighten society as to the vulgarity
and wrongness of hatred towards gay people. Homosexuals imitate Christ
more so than any other group of people...for we are directly attacked
and persecuted for our Brotherly Love. We are crucified constantly, in
most parts of the world. Yet, we are innocent.

> Hah hah hah hah hah! Unfunniest shit I've ever read except for
> your stupid Gay Mecca skit.

Of course, nothing is ever truly funny to a homophobe. They are, by
nature, humorless and violent losers. News flash: I did not compose my
skit for your kind. I composed it for those who are in the know.

> Consider yourself plonked, moron.

Ohhh, that hurt so much, I can't begin to tell! Well, if you respond
to this latest message, it will prove you a LIAR. So let's see if you
have the maturity to cease your hideous ravings in this thread.

---
Jehovah's Queer Witness (Zeke Krahlin)
Shamanic Story Teller & Trickster
"I can't believe it's not buggery!" -Flabbio
http://www.gay-bible.org

Chief Thracian

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Nov 10, 2003, 2:36:42 AM11/10/03
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"Mouldy Jester" <No...@getlost.com> wrote in message news:<uMqob.3587$Mn.1...@news.xtra.co.nz>...

> I would love to know how ARG is even remotely linked to ARGLBT
> ........apart from both being religious, sort of.

If you feel that the gay perspective must be CENSORED from any other
topic--religious or otherwise--then I see your confusion. But that is
self-censorship. There is no qualification to NOT discuss a gay
perspective in this Gnostic group.

Too many naive people think that gay perspectives must ONLY be
described in specifically gay groups. Yet these same non-gay groups
rarely get upset when any OTHER alternative perspective is included
(such as native-American, Polish, conservative or liberal, etc.).

By virtue of my wisdom borne of Gnostic beliefs, and my years'
devotion as a gay activist...then I see no reason to censor myself
from a Gnostic group, and just participate in a group with the word
"gay" in its description. The Gnostic group does not describe itself
as "hetero perspectives only, please". Too many gays willfully limit
themselves to a ghetto mentality...as if we should be ASHAMED to speak
out in other, more general venues.

Mouldy Jester

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"Chief Thracian" <zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com> wrote in message
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If you are a Gnostic, and you wish to discuss a homosexual aspect of it,
then bring it on. It would be interesting in some way.

Dreamsnake

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Nov 14, 2003, 10:33:43 AM11/14/03
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"Mouldy Jester" <No...@getlost.com> wrote in message news:<D42sb.602$%o4.2...@news.xtra.co.nz>...

I have challenged "Chief" Thracian to do so in the past. No reply.
A pity, because I can think of some fascinating things to be said;
much Gnostic literature has both gay-friendly and homophobic aspects.
I expect this man has no idea of what "Gnostic" truly means. He
probably has no idea of what "on-topic" means either. Homosexual
practices among the Cathars, or the aggressively heterosexist
imagery of many Gnostic cosmogonies--that would be on-topic *and*
gay.

Wonder what would happen if we began posting Gnostic activism on
ARGLBT? Probably would not get the same fuzzy warm reception that
"Chief" Thracian demands of us, even if I explained that I had
arrived at these insights through my insight born of wisdom as a
bisexual, or some such.

Dreamsnake

Mouldy Jester

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I suspected as much. Ah well, no loss if he doesn't answer.
--
Mouldy Jester

It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid.
-- George Bernard Shaw


Chief Thracian

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"Mouldy Jester" <No...@getlost.com> wrote in message news:<D42sb.602$%o4.2...@news.xtra.co.nz>...

> If you are a Gnostic, and you wish to discuss a homosexual aspect of it,
> then bring it on. It would be interesting in some way.

Most folks I've met who study Gnostic beliefs, are pretty smart.
They'd recognize my "I Love Gay Mecca" immediately as a witty
celebration of my inner wisdom blossoming into my revelation of Christ
as homosexual deity. Do I have to hit you over the head, and spell it
out for you? Guess so, but that's not my style.

I'd much rather tell you of my spiritual oddyssey through enchanting
tales, parody, and poems.

Gnosticism is knowledge of transcendence arrived at by way of
interior, intuitive means. This one tale "I Love Gay Mecca", is but
one among countless stories I have to share now, as the result of my
life-long, internal oddyssey in the spiritual realm.

Through my comic tale, "I Love Gay Mecca", I have opened a discussion
of the homosexual mystique, and how it imparts true wisdom to the
seeker of Gnostic understanding. But if you choose to detract from
this intent, by muddying the thread with silly squawks and insulting
drivel...hey, who am I to criticise!

Encountering fools along The Path from time to time, is part of the
Great Adventure.

And so is leaving them behind!

Mouldy Jester

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"Chief Thracian" <zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com> wrote in message
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> "Mouldy Jester" <No...@getlost.com> wrote in message
news:<D42sb.602$%o4.2...@news.xtra.co.nz>...
>
> > If you are a Gnostic, and you wish to discuss a homosexual aspect of it,
> > then bring it on. It would be interesting in some way.
>
> Most folks I've met who study Gnostic beliefs, are pretty smart.
> They'd recognize my "I Love Gay Mecca" immediately as a witty
> celebration of my inner wisdom blossoming into my revelation of Christ
> as homosexual deity. Do I have to hit you over the head, and spell it
> out for you? Guess so, but that's not my style.
>

Of course you have to hit me over the head with it! I am just an ignorant,
homophobic fool who is out to persecute you at all times, remember??

I would love to see what evidence you have for Christ as a "homosexual
deity". I would also love to see what proof you have garnerd for Christ's
"deity" as well, while we are at it.


> I'd much rather tell you of my spiritual oddyssey through enchanting
> tales, parody, and poems.
>

I am not interested in your personal oddyssey per se. I am, however,
interested in Gnosticism. Where those two issues converge, we have a
starting point.

> Gnosticism is knowledge of transcendence arrived at by way of
> interior, intuitive means. This one tale "I Love Gay Mecca", is but
> one among countless stories I have to share now, as the result of my
> life-long, internal oddyssey in the spiritual realm.
>

Good for you! So, what makes you think that your oddyssey is "gnosticism"?
Let's get to details here.

> Through my comic tale, "I Love Gay Mecca", I have opened a discussion
> of the homosexual mystique, and how it imparts true wisdom to the
> seeker of Gnostic understanding.

There are many claimants to the ideals of "true wisdom", of whom you are but
one among the gaggle who would have people follow them. Unfortunately, most
of this said gaggle is nothing but a collection of mindless, blind,
self-absorbed hypocrites. So, forgive my reticence to embrace your "wisdom"
uncritically and without reserve.

Please show where you get the idea that "homosexual mystique" bestows "true
wisdom" to the "seeker". You could make a start by showing where the gnostic
teachers said as much. Try the Nag Hammadi library, if you would like.

But if you choose to detract from
> this intent, by muddying the thread with silly squawks and insulting
> drivel...hey, who am I to criticise!
>

If you mean "criticise" by your use of the word "detract", then this says
more about your own belief system's fragile nature than it does about my
character.

If a belief system cannot stand up against criticism by others, then it is
not worth the effort to bother following and investing valuable time in. If
you want to propose your beliefs as a path to true gnosticism, that is ok.
However, be prepared to have them subjected to tests of criticism. Be
prepared to have people ask some hard questions. If you are not prepared for
this, then I regrettfully think that you are in the wrong place.

> Encountering fools along The Path from time to time, is part of the
> Great Adventure.
>
> And so is leaving them behind!

If your honest opinion is that I am a fool, then feel free to leave me
behind. It is no loss to me at all, contrary to what you may or may not
think. I have not time for simpering martyrs who cry "persecution" at the
slightest hint of criticism.

However, if you wish to have a reasonable discussion on the possible
homosexual elements of gnosticism, then feel free to engage. However, do not
expect me, or anyone else, to fold at the first post of "withering and
irrefutable evidence" that you think you have.

Chief Thracian

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dreams...@yahoo.com (Dreamsnake) wrote in message news:<7b579bf1.03111...@posting.google.com>...

> I have challenged "Chief" Thracian to do so in the past. No reply.
> A pity, because I can think of some fascinating things to be said;

So me and my guardian angel were joking around the other day (as we often do),
when I said:

"Randolph, I wish dudes would love me for my mind instead of my wonderful body,
for a change."

"Oh sweetheart," he replies, resting a gentle hand on my shoulder, "I love you for
your mind. Why, you have the LOVELIEST cerebrum wrinkles this side of anti-matter!"

"Honey," I smiled a big grin, "you can run your hands through my cerebrum any time
you want. Just don't leave a mess on the carpet."

---
The Final Testament
"Leave your left hemisphere at the door."
http://www.gay-bible.org

Dreamsnake

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zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com (Chief Thracian) wrote in message news:<d46ddbb9.03111...@posting.google.com>...

[...]

> Gnosticism is knowledge of transcendence arrived at by way of
> interior, intuitive means.

. . . and what else?

(BIG HINT: If you think you have just given a complete definition
of Gnosticism, you do not know what it is. Really, all you have
defined is Mysticism.)

Dreamsnake

Mouldy Jester

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"Dreamsnake" <dreams...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Is it really surprising?

Dreamsnake

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"Mouldy Jester" <No...@getlost.com> wrote in message news:<Ou0ub.787$VV6....@news.xtra.co.nz>...

> "Dreamsnake" <dreams...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7b579bf1.03111...@posting.google.com...
> > zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com (Chief Thracian) wrote in message
> news:<d46ddbb9.03111...@posting.google.com>...
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Gnosticism is knowledge of transcendence arrived at by way of
> > > interior, intuitive means.
> >
> > . . . and what else?
> >
> > (BIG HINT: If you think you have just given a complete definition
> > of Gnosticism, you do not know what it is. Really, all you have
> > defined is Mysticism.)
>
> Is it really surprising?

No, not at all. But it is high time we try to call him out on this
point, and give him the chance to realize that the Gnosticisms that
get discussed on this newsgroup are nothing like what he believes.
If nothing else, maybe he will get disgusted and go away.

Dreamsnake

Mouldy Jester

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Nov 18, 2003, 1:03:34 AM11/18/03
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"Dreamsnake" <dreams...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7b579bf1.03111...@posting.google.com...
> "Mouldy Jester" <No...@getlost.com> wrote in message
news:<Ou0ub.787$VV6....@news.xtra.co.nz>...
> > "Dreamsnake" <dreams...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:7b579bf1.03111...@posting.google.com...
> > > zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com (Chief Thracian) wrote in
message
> > news:<d46ddbb9.03111...@posting.google.com>...
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > Gnosticism is knowledge of transcendence arrived at by way of
> > > > interior, intuitive means.
> > >
> > > . . . and what else?
> > >
> > > (BIG HINT: If you think you have just given a complete definition
> > > of Gnosticism, you do not know what it is. Really, all you have
> > > defined is Mysticism.)
> >
> > Is it really surprising?
>
> No, not at all. But it is high time we try to call him out on this
> point, and give him the chance to realize that the Gnosticisms that
> get discussed on this newsgroup are nothing like what he believes.
> If nothing else, maybe he will get disgusted and go away.

lol. We need goals, I guess. ;-)

Actor

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If you want to be accepted, then you must be accepting. You don't
sound like the Christian you profess to be.


On 9 Nov 2003 23:28:01 -0800, zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com

penitent leper

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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:39:43 GMT, Actor <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>If you want to be accepted, then you must be accepting. You don't
>sound like the Christian you profess to be.

This jerk, whether or not he professes Christianity, is a
sophomoric, immature, hypersensitive paranoiac. As you can see from
my attempts at communication with him below, he is ill-equipped to
deal with criticism. As I mentioned, the queerest thing about this


guy is that he thinks he's funny.

But his chief mistake was to post his heavy-as-a-hammer and way
off-topic drivel to alt.religion.gnostic. I've never regretted
killfiling this loser. One final comment, below, then I'm happily
dismissing the sad empty echoes of this lost clueless soul...

- pl -



>On 9 Nov 2003 23:28:01 -0800, zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com
>(Chief Thracian) wrote:
>
>>penitent leper <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message news:<5nulqvshrpu2dunqs...@4ax.com>...

snipped for size

PL:


>>> anyway. The point is you posted off-topic non-humor to
>>> alt.religion.gnostic.

zekeThracian:


>>
>>You already made that claim. And I already described why you are
>>incorrect. Yet you give no rational explanation why you think I am
>>off-topic.

PL:


>>
>>> Don't need to be homophobic to know you're not
>>> funny.

zekeThracian:


>>
>>Wrong. You most certainly do.

Note: so Thracian is saying that a person must necessarily be
homophobic if s/he finds his "humor" not humorous. Typical me-first
hypersensitive rant, as well as knee-jerk charge of homophobia. And
still off-topic in alt.religion.gnostic.

- pl -

= = =

Mouldy Jester

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Feb 19, 2004, 12:12:58 AM2/19/04
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"penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:39:43 GMT, Actor <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >If you want to be accepted, then you must be accepting. You don't
> >sound like the Christian you profess to be.
>
> This jerk, whether or not he professes Christianity, is a
> sophomoric, immature, hypersensitive paranoiac. As you can see from
> my attempts at communication with him below, he is ill-equipped to
> deal with criticism. As I mentioned, the queerest thing about this
> guy is that he thinks he's funny.
>
> But his chief mistake was to post his heavy-as-a-hammer and way
> off-topic drivel to alt.religion.gnostic. I've never regretted
> killfiling this loser. One final comment, below, then I'm happily
> dismissing the sad empty echoes of this lost clueless soul...
>
> - pl -
>
> >On 9 Nov 2003 23:28:01 -0800, zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com
> >(Chief Thracian) wrote:
> >
> >>penitent leper <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
news:<5nulqvshrpu2dunqs...@4ax.com>...

[snipped]

>
> PL:
> >>
> >>> Don't need to be homophobic to know you're not
> >>> funny.
>
> zekeThracian:
> >>
> >>Wrong. You most certainly do.
>
> Note: so Thracian is saying that a person must necessarily be
> homophobic if s/he finds his "humor" not humorous. Typical me-first
> hypersensitive rant, as well as knee-jerk charge of homophobia. And
> still off-topic in alt.religion.gnostic.
>
> - pl -
>

Like some minorities, it seems that some homosexual people would rather just
scream "homophobia" anytime someone voiced any disagreement with them or
their preconceived ideas. Of course, if the rest of us did it, we would be
labelled with other names that were just as demeaning.

This Thracian guy is a hyprocrite deserving the most vituperative contempt
possible.

[snipped]
--
Mouldy Jester

"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."

"Martyrdom is the only way in which a man can become famous without
ability."

-- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

penitent leper

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Feb 19, 2004, 12:53:38 AM2/19/04
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I concur. Someone who hides behind politically-correct fears of
offending his/her "minority" status is a coward.

- pl -

Mouldy Jester

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Feb 19, 2004, 2:46:16 AM2/19/04
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"penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:12:58 +1300, "Mouldy Jester"
> <No...@getlost.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
> >news:d3p530hp92vvbpi7r...@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:39:43 GMT, Actor <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >If you want to be accepted, then you must be accepting. You don't
> >> >sound like the Christian you profess to be.
> >>
> >> This jerk, whether or not he professes Christianity, is a
> >> sophomoric, immature, hypersensitive paranoiac. As you can see from
> >> my attempts at communication with him below, he is ill-equipped to
> >> deal with criticism. As I mentioned, the queerest thing about this
> >> guy is that he thinks he's funny.
> >>
> >> But his chief mistake was to post his heavy-as-a-hammer and way
> >> off-topic drivel to alt.religion.gnostic. I've never regretted
> >> killfiling this loser. One final comment, below, then I'm happily
> >> dismissing the sad empty echoes of this lost clueless soul...
> >>
> >> - pl -
> >>
> >> >On 9 Nov 2003 23:28:01 -0800, zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com
> >> >(Chief Thracian) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>penitent leper <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
> >news:<5nulqvshrpu2dunqs...@4ax.com>...

[snipped]

>


> I concur. Someone who hides behind politically-correct fears of
> offending his/her "minority" status is a coward.

Absolutely. If one's convictions are unable to stand the test of open,
"politically incorrect" scrutiny, then one's convictions aren't worth the
shit that they passed into existence in.
--
Mouldy Jester

"You really *are* Moggins kiss-ass lapdoggie aren'tcha?"
--Nuvoadam, 17th January, 2004
(in reference to myself).


Gi L'D'Shea

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Mar 14, 2004, 12:17:16 AM3/14/04
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Mouldy Jester wrote:
>
> "penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
>

You 2 just don't quit do you, cross post every group you can think of
any anyone who disagrees with either of you Dose em, got Ms Viruses show
them the will of you silence anyone who disagrees.
To bad you will never understand.
Revelations 13, Sa-Tan fights a war against you and those who support
stupidity, and hate the descendants of knowledge.

Mouldy Jester

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Mar 14, 2004, 12:13:04 AM3/14/04
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"Gi L'D'Shea" <Jesuss...@Jacobites.org> wrote in message
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We'll quit when this trash stops getting cross-posted into ARG.
--
Mouldy Jester

"In the beginning, the universe was created. This made a lot of people very
angry, and has been widely regarded as a bad idea."
- Douglas Adams

Gi L'D'She-a

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Mar 15, 2004, 10:16:58 PM3/15/04
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How bout there is no we in you you seem to be some form of split
personality who believes the court motto of two against one means you
can generate two different e-mail addresses and pretend to be separate
people.
It worked for you a couple years ago, but you can't keep the two
personalities separate anymore dude.
Besides I do not Cross-Post to ARG, I am part of that group, they are
Jacobites dude, not KJV people.
They Started from the teachings of SETH, you go read your Gnostic Books
OK.
You are trespassing there and they do not Like It you are annoying, and
spaming that group.

Gi L'D'She-a

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Mar 15, 2004, 10:41:30 PM3/15/04
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That's Kewl
Bitch about me cross-posting, while you are the one doing it.
I responded to one post on 1 group went to another and guess what here
we are, but "YOU" did it.

Mouldy Jester

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Mar 15, 2004, 11:51:22 PM3/15/04
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"Gi L'D'She-a" <jaco...@houseobel.org> wrote in message
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> How bout there is no we in you you seem to be some form of split
> personality who believes the court motto of two against one means you
> can generate two different e-mail addresses and pretend to be separate
> people.
> It worked for you a couple years ago, but you can't keep the two
> personalities separate anymore dude.
> Besides I do not Cross-Post to ARG, I am part of that group, they are
> Jacobites dude, not KJV people.
> They Started from the teachings of SETH, you go read your Gnostic Books
> OK.
> You are trespassing there and they do not Like It you are annoying, and
> spaming that group.

How much acid did you drop before writing this?? Maybe you should try to
string a coherent sentence together before you try to achieve an entire
paragraph. All you have done is show a profound ignorance of anything,
including Gnosticism.

Who the heck are you talking to?? I wasn't here a couple of years ago, and I
sure has hell haven't seen you post to ARG in the time I have been here.

In addition, in the post I was responding to, you said "You two don't quit".
So, if there is only "one", as you now claim, who were you talking to then?

Useless git.

[snipped]
--
Mouldy Jester

"I am free of all prejudice. I hate everyone equally."
- W. C. Fields

"Humanity is the sin of God."
- Theodore Parker

"Man is a useless passion."
- Jean-Paul Sartre

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein

Mouldy Jester

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"Gi L'D'She-a" <jaco...@houseobel.org> wrote in message
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> That's Kewl
> Bitch about me cross-posting, while you are the one doing it.
> I responded to one post on 1 group went to another and guess what here
> we are, but "YOU" did it.

Who started this thread, fool?

Gi L'D'She-a

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Mar 16, 2004, 9:16:44 PM3/16/04
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Wasn't me, least not that I know of unless you cross posted me before I
even came in the Door.
As for this thread It is Not mine.
I am Faerie, totally Faerie, and Completely Faerie.
Jacobite, those of the Arcadian who follow the Ancient Greek Bible, the
Gaelic given the other Covenant of Sheba.
Not Muslim, or Catholic, or Protestant, or

Mouldy Jester

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Mar 19, 2004, 7:31:02 PM3/19/04
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"Gi L'D'She-a" <jaco...@houseobel.org> wrote in message
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> Wasn't me, least not that I know of unless you cross posted me before I
> even came in the Door.
> As for this thread It is Not mine.
> I am Faerie, totally Faerie, and Completely Faerie.
> Jacobite, those of the Arcadian who follow the Ancient Greek Bible, the
> Gaelic given the other Covenant of Sheba.
> Not Muslim, or Catholic, or Protestant, or

[snipped]

I don't care if you are the Fairy Queen's Godmother in drag.....you are
still talking a load of fetid, stale fecal matter.
--
Mouldy Jester

"Hylic is the Way of Life, but a bigot like you will never understand."
-D'Shea, (20th March 2004), in reference to Penitent and myself.

"Sod off wanker."
-George Hammond, (1st February, 2004), in reference to me.

"You really *are* Moggins kiss-ass lapdoggie aren'tcha?"

- Nuvoadam, (17th January, 2004), in reference to me.

"I keep telling you, Gnosticism ain't dualistic."

- Krag, (30th July, 2003)

D'Shea

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Mar 19, 2004, 11:20:08 PM3/19/04
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Try Reading the "Lebor Gaebala" some time then see if you feel the same
way.
Besides, you again are trespassing here, you are an
Agnostic, Hunter.
I am the tribe of Psudo-Dyanisis, the prey perpetually hunted.

Mouldy Jester

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"D'Shea" <gia...@sethians.org> wrote in message
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> Try Reading the "Lebor Gaebala" some time then see if you feel the same
> way.
> Besides, you again are trespassing here, you are an
> Agnostic, Hunter.
> I am the tribe of Psudo-Dyanisis, the prey perpetually hunted.
>

Lovely. I am happy for you. Really, I am.

D,Shea

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Mar 21, 2004, 8:50:03 PM3/21/04
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Fuck you Leper.
Told you I knew you.
Got you this time.
Don't you kinow MS has a bounty out for black hats like you that run
around pretending to be them so they can send Viruses to everyone.
Got you stuff going into a JD/MS trap right now.
Even if the can get your bot you are done, fuckhead.
You are a terrorist.
A Criminal under American Laws.
Nazi's like you belong behind bars, hope you enjoy the stay.

D,Shea

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Mar 21, 2004, 8:48:46 PM3/21/04
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Mouldy Jester

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"D,Shea" <dumb...@screwed.net> wrote in message
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You seem to have some delusions here.

Firstly, you seem to think that I give a shit about American laws. Get real.
Moron.

Secondly, you have no evidence. If it wasn't so stupid, it would be
hilarious.

Thanks for tha laughs.

Mouldy Jester

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"D,Shea" <dumb...@screwed.net> wrote in message
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As I said before: useless git.

penitent leper

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Mar 22, 2004, 11:07:31 AM3/22/04
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:52:48 +1200, "Mouldy Jester"
<No...@getlost.com> wrote:

>
>"D,Shea" <dumb...@screwed.net> wrote in message
>news:405E464B...@screwed.net...
>>
>> Fuck you Leper.
>> Told you I knew you.
>> Got you this time.
>> Don't you kinow MS has a bounty out for black hats like you that run
>> around pretending to be them so they can send Viruses to everyone.
>> Got you stuff going into a JD/MS trap right now.
>> Even if the can get your bot you are done, fuckhead.
>> You are a terrorist.
>> A Criminal under American Laws.
>> Nazi's like you belong behind bars, hope you enjoy the stay.
>
>As I said before: useless git.

Worse than useless. First I plonk this queer-brained queer, then
s/he posts a message addressed to me. A fine example of Fairy brain
death.

- pl -

Mouldy Jester

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"penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
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It is almost worth having a whole sig file for D Shea alone. Not even
Baldric would envy this sap.

penitent leper

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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:33:41 +1200, "Mouldy Jester"
<No...@getlost.com> wrote:

>
>"penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
>news:hn3u505et5lubilco...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:52:48 +1200, "Mouldy Jester"
>> <No...@getlost.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"D,Shea" <dumb...@screwed.net> wrote in message
>> >news:405E464B...@screwed.net...
>> >>
>> >> Fuck you Leper.
>> >> Told you I knew you.
>> >> Got you this time.
>> >> Don't you kinow MS has a bounty out for black hats like you that run
>> >> around pretending to be them so they can send Viruses to everyone.
>> >> Got you stuff going into a JD/MS trap right now.
>> >> Even if the can get your bot you are done, fuckhead.
>> >> You are a terrorist.
>> >> A Criminal under American Laws.
>> >> Nazi's like you belong behind bars, hope you enjoy the stay.
>> >
>> >As I said before: useless git.
>>
>> Worse than useless. First I plonk this queer-brained queer, then
>> s/he posts a message addressed to me. A fine example of Fairy brain
>> death.
>
>It is almost worth having a whole sig file for D Shea alone. Not even
>Baldric would envy this sap.

Good new sig, MJ!

- pl -

Mouldy Jester

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"penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:33:41 +1200, "Mouldy Jester"
> <No...@getlost.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
> >news:hn3u505et5lubilco...@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:52:48 +1200, "Mouldy Jester"
> >> <No...@getlost.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"D,Shea" <dumb...@screwed.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:405E464B...@screwed.net...

[snipped]

> Good new sig, MJ!

Done. :-)
--
Mouldy Jester

"Besides, you again are trespassing here, you are an
Agnostic, Hunter."

- D,Shea, 20th March 2004, in reference to myself.

"You are a terrorist.
A Criminal under American Laws.
Nazi's like you belong behind bars, hope you enjoy the stay."

- D,Shea, 22nd March 2004, in reference to myself, PL and another.


D'Shea

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Mar 23, 2004, 6:03:20 PM3/23/04
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Glad you admit to having sent Virus Mail to me in a Hate Crime.
I am not joking DUDE, MS started prosecuting your people 2 weeks ago,
and they do have a BOUNTY on you.
I have you as one of the official "Black Hats" know I know why you guys
choose that term.
But pretending to be MS and blasting Viruses around the net is a crime,
official this year.
"You" personally have hit thousands from what I see.
Anyone hit by you and you MS office Suite of Viruses should contact MS
SECURITY, as well as the Administrator of the newsgroup the contact was
made on.
If you have had as much trouble as I have with him, contact the Justice
Department also, it is a crime.

Mouldy Jester

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Mar 25, 2004, 4:01:50 AM3/25/04
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Get some help and strong medication. And get it fast.
--
Mouldy Jester

"You are a terrorist.
A Criminal under American Laws.
Nazi's like you belong behind bars, hope you enjoy the stay."

- D,Shea, 22nd March 2004, in reference to myself, PL and another.

"Besides, you again are trespassing here, you are an


Agnostic, Hunter."
- D,Shea, 20th March 2004, in reference to myself.

"Hylic is the Way of Life, but a bigot like you will never understand."
-D,Shea, (20th March 2004), in reference to Penitent and myself.

"D'Shea" <gia_...@jacobites.org> wrote in message
news:4060C238...@jacobites.org...

penitent leper

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Mar 25, 2004, 4:09:17 AM3/25/04
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:01:50 +1200, "Mouldy Jester"
<No...@getlost.com> wrote:

>Get some help and strong medication. And get it fast.

Funny how this worthless piece of schizoid shit thinks I'm still
communicating with him/her, after I put him/her into the killfile.
Not to mention the outright lie that we've been sending him/her
viruses. What a putrescent little nobody.

- pl -

Mouldy Jester

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"penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
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I guess somebody has to be on the bottom of the food chain. ;-)

D'Shea

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Mar 26, 2004, 7:53:50 PM3/26/04
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Mouldy Jester wrote:
>
> "penitent leper" <bast...@peak.org> wrote in message
> news:9a8560t35p4jofppu...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:01:50 +1200, "Mouldy Jester"
> > <No...@getlost.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Get some help and strong medication. And get it fast.
> >
> > Funny how this worthless piece of schizoid shit thinks I'm still
> > communicating with him/her, after I put him/her into the killfile.
> > Not to mention the outright lie that we've been sending him/her
> > viruses. What a putrescent little nobody.

>On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:52:48 +1200, "Mouldy Jester"
<No...@getlost.com> wrote:

>
>"D,Shea" <dumb...@screwed.net> wrote in message
>news:405E464B...@screwed.net...
>>
>> Fuck you Leper.
>> Told you I knew you.
>> Got you this time.
>> Don't you kinow MS has a bounty out for black hats like you that run
>> around pretending to be them so they can send Viruses to everyone.
>> Got you stuff going into a JD/MS trap right now.
>> Even if the can get your bot you are done, fuckhead.

>> You are a terrorist.
>> A Criminal under American Laws.
>> Nazi's like you belong behind bars, hope you enjoy the stay.
>

>As I said before: useless git.

If I am wrong then a thousand pardons, but you said

Worse than useless. First I plonk this queer-brained queer, then
s/he posts a message addressed to me. A fine example of Fairy brain
death.

Therefore if I am right
Thrice damned be the, they seed, and they seed bearing after thee.
Then you house will understand me.

D'Shea

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Mar 26, 2004, 7:59:31 PM3/26/04
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Nope just posting to any who know enough to read.

If I am wrong then a thousand pardons, but you said

Worse than useless. First I plonk this queer-brained queer, then


s/he posts a message addressed to me. A fine example of Fairy brain
death.

Therefore if I am right:

Mouldy Jester

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Mar 27, 2004, 8:02:02 PM3/27/04
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"D'Shea" <gia-...@jacobites.org> wrote in message
news:4064D09E...@jacobites.org...

I am not sure how PL's statement makes him guilty of sending viruses to
Microsoft, or of being the same person as me or this Iceknife. He merely
said that he had plinked you, and made some references to your brain being
dead. Admittedly, not polite, but calling people Nazis is not polite either.

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