Bender = gay
Chief Thracian
"bender" can mean "a man who has sex with another man". But this ain't
the first time I've "outed" a cartoon character.
Here is the site that told me about "bender":
http://www.dazbert.freeserve.co.uk/mirror/rudefood/food/bender.htm
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Stevie D
Yes, bender means gay! I'm english, and the Americans must be on to this,
because I have seen marketed a "Gender Bender" pushing the boat out a bit,
which was a female bender... LOL
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Dr Zoidberg
> I just stumbled upon a piece of queer-slang trivia: In England,
> "bender" can mean "a man who has sex with another man". But this ain't
> the first time I've "outed" a cartoon character.
>
least in adult usage. Kids still use it as an insult without having much
understanding of what it really means.
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Some Bloke
> I just stumbled upon a piece of queer-slang trivia: In England,
> "bender" can mean "a man who has sex with another man". But this ain't
> the first time I've "outed" a cartoon character.
>
> Here is the site that told me about "bender":
Didn't realise that the term "bender" wasn't in common usage in the
states. Yes, to call someone "bent" or a "bender" is to imply that
they are gay. Thus the joke in the first episode:
"I don't want people to think we're robosexuals, so if anyone asks,
you're my debugger"
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Jamie
> Yes, bender means gay! I'm english, and the Americans must be on to this,
> because I have seen marketed a "Gender Bender" pushing the boat out a bit,
> which was a female bender... LOL
no, that was just Bender's costume from the episode Raging Bender.
Chris®
>the Americans must be on to this,
>because I have seen marketed a "Gender
>Bender" pushing the boat out a bit, which
>was a female bender... LOL
Gender bender is a term meaning someone who "bends the rules" for a
certain gender, like a man wearing lipstick, etc.
English/American slang can be quite confusing. Ask a Brit if he cares
for a fag and he'll probably respond that he quit smoking years ago.
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
behind me" - General George S. Patton.
Randy Bot
No.
As an American, I would say that joke had nothing to do with his name
being Bender. It was completely in the context of a human and robot
spending too much time together is suspicious.
In this country, bender only refers either to something or someone
who bends something, or a period of binge drinking, which if done right,
you won't remember much of.
You have to put "gender" in front of "bender" for it to sound gay to us.
And then it only refers to cross-dressers, which we assume are gay unless
told otherwise. (I would not ask for proof either way.)
It's interesting y'all took it that way though.
Jason Saslow
> So when Bart Simpson says "Get Bent", he means "Get gay?"
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> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 06:39:08 +0000, Some Bloke wrote:
> > Didn't realise that the term "bender" wasn't in common usage in the
> > states. Yes, to call someone "bent" or a "bender" is to imply that
> > they are gay. Thus the joke in the first episode:
> > "I don't want people to think we're robosexuals, so if anyone asks,
> > you're my debugger"
> No.
> As an American, I would say that joke had nothing to do with his name
> being Bender. It was completely in the context of a human and robot
> spending too much time together is suspicious.
Hmmm, I disagree. "Debugger" is an obvious pun on buggary, and to my
British ears the joke is in the irony of someone called Bender
worrying that he'll be considered a "robosexual" if he spends to much
time with a guy, rather than worrying that his name is a word for
homosexual.
> In this country, bender only refers either to something or someone
> who bends something, or a period of binge drinking, which if done right,
> you won't remember much of.
We have those meanings too, but I think the "someone that bends"
meaning is a bit obscure. I've never heard the word bender used in
that context, and there isn't really much of a joke in a robot that
bends girders unless his name also means something else. It seems
unlikely that Groening would miss the oportunity for a pun when
thinking up the name for a robot character, and having his job being
to bend girders would be rather obscure unless there was some other
reason. I could think of funnier jobs for a robot.
> You have to put "gender" in front of "bender" for it to sound gay to us.
> And then it only refers to cross-dressers, which we assume are gay unless
> told otherwise. (I would not ask for proof either way.)
>
> It's interesting y'all took it that way though.
I realise that futurama is american, but I can't believe that the
makers aren't aware of the homosexual connotations of the word Bender.
The fact that you guys don't have that meaning for the word explains
why they don't make a bigger thing of it (plus the fact that it
wouldn't be very funny if they over-did it), but I'm sure it's an
intentional joke, even if it seems obscure to you guys.
LooseChanj
made the sensational claim that:
> I realise that futurama is american, but I can't believe that the
> makers aren't aware of the homosexual connotations of the word Bender.
> The fact that you guys don't have that meaning for the word explains
> why they don't make a bigger thing of it (plus the fact that it
> wouldn't be very funny if they over-did it), but I'm sure it's an
> intentional joke, even if it seems obscure to you guys.
I don't think the homosexual connotation enters into it all. It's obviously
a pun on the drunken rampage sense of the word.
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>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 06:39:08 +0000, Some Bloke wrote:
>
>> > Didn't realise that the term "bender" wasn't in common usage in the
>> > states. Yes, to call someone "bent" or a "bender" is to imply that
>> > they are gay. Thus the joke in the first episode:
>> > "I don't want people to think we're robosexuals, so if anyone asks,
>> > you're my debugger"
>
>> No.
>> As an American, I would say that joke had nothing to do with his name
>> being Bender. It was completely in the context of a human and robot
>> spending too much time together is suspicious.
>
>Hmmm, I disagree. "Debugger" is an obvious pun on buggary
Um, no it's not. It comes from the term "bug". Though I do like it
in that context.
>I realise that futurama is american, but I can't believe that the
>makers aren't aware of the homosexual connotations of the word Bender.
>The fact that you guys don't have that meaning for the word explains
>why they don't make a bigger thing of it (plus the fact that it
>wouldn't be very funny if they over-did it),
Didn't stop them when it came to Smithers.
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A.C.
> As an American, I would say that joke had nothing to do with his name
> being Bender. It was completely in the context of a human and robot
> spending too much time together is suspicious.
> In this country, bender only refers either to something or someone
> who bends something, or a period of binge drinking, which if done right,
> you won't remember much of.
I'm 99% sure Bender was meant to refer to his propensity to indulge in
alcohol.
Christophe Franco
Think about The Breakfast Club also...
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Bender
> British ears the joke is in the irony of someone called Bender
> worrying that he'll be considered a "robosexual" if he spends to much
> time with a guy, rather than worrying that his name is a word for
> homosexual.
A "debugger" is one who removes bugs from a software program. Bender believes
people will be more comfortable thinking Fry's his debugger if they're seen
together a lot. Considering the creators/writers/producers of the show are all
American, I'd say there's a 0% possiblity of "debugger" being in reference to
"buggary."
> We have those meanings too, but I think the "someone that bends"
> meaning is a bit obscure. I've never heard the word bender used in
> that context, and there isn't really much of a joke in a robot that
> bends girders unless his name also means something else. It seems
> unlikely that Groening would miss the oportunity for a pun when
> thinking up the name for a robot character, and having his job being
> to bend girders would be rather obscure unless there was some other
> reason. I could think of funnier jobs for a robot.
It does have a second context, which was explained precisely in the previous
post. A bender is extended period of binge drinking. Bender is a
heavy-drinking robot, who happily happens to be skilled in bending girders. His
name has absolutely nothing to do with a hint at homosexuality.
> I realise that futurama is american, but I can't believe that the
> makers aren't aware of the homosexual connotations of the word Bender.
> The fact that you guys don't have that meaning for the word explains
> why they don't make a bigger thing of it (plus the fact that it
> wouldn't be very funny if they over-did it), but I'm sure it's an
> intentional joke, even if it seems obscure to you guys.
Nope.
Some Bloke
> > Hmmm, I disagree. "Debugger" is an obvious pun on buggary, and to my
> > British ears the joke is in the irony of someone called Bender
> > worrying that he'll be considered a "robosexual" if he spends to much
> > time with a guy, rather than worrying that his name is a word for
> > homosexual.
>
> A "debugger" is one who removes bugs from a software program. Bender believes
> people will be more comfortable thinking Fry's his debugger if they're seen
> together a lot. Considering the creators/writers/producers of the show are all
> American, I'd say there's a 0% possiblity of "debugger" being in reference to
> "buggary."
I'm aware of what a debugger is, that's why I said it was a *pun*. You
know, a play on words? That pun would work even if the Bender thing
isn't intentional, because "robosexuality" has just been mentioned. I
don't see what the writers being american has to do with it, unless
you don't use the word buggery (which is the american heritage
dictionary).
> > We have those meanings too, but I think the "someone that bends"
> > meaning is a bit obscure. I've never heard the word bender used in
> > that context, and there isn't really much of a joke in a robot that
> > bends girders unless his name also means something else. It seems
> > unlikely that Groening would miss the oportunity for a pun when
> > thinking up the name for a robot character, and having his job being
> > to bend girders would be rather obscure unless there was some other
> > reason. I could think of funnier jobs for a robot.
>
> It does have a second context, which was explained precisely in the previous
> post. A bender is extended period of binge drinking. Bender is a
> heavy-drinking robot, who happily happens to be skilled in bending girders. His
> name has absolutely nothing to do with a hint at homosexuality.
That's feasable I suppose.
Darius
"Bender" means a "One who, or that which, bends" or "a drinking spree" and
in england its a nother word for a sizpence... Bender is a robot who bends
things and drinks constantly and looks nothing like a coin so i'm sticking
to the terms that make sense rahter than flights of fancy from the minority
definition of from the gay brits...
.
Also did you know that in english Thracians were ancient Bulgarians? I guess
that makes you bulgarian?
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Graham
> I'm aware of what a debugger is, that's why I said it was a *pun*. You
> know, a play on words? That pun would work even if the Bender thing
> isn't intentional, because "robosexuality" has just been mentioned. I
> don't see what the writers being american has to do with it, unless
> you don't use the word buggery (which is the american heritage
> dictionary).
Don't worry about it, it's not your fault that the point sailed over
their heads. Anyway, sometimes a joke is funnier if it's esoteric, which
in this case it could *possibly* be. Put it this way, a few of us Brits
had a good laugh at that, whether intentionally done or not.
It seems absurd to argue that there's *no* possibility for the American
writers of Futurama to pick up on the usage of the slang term bender to
mean gay. Do people here think that the writers don't have any
comprehension about what's outside the US borders? I think that the
writers of Futurama are intelligent enough to throw in some esoteric
stuff occasionally. Sure, it's more likely that they didn't throw that
in, but it's certainly a possibility.
Graham
Albert the Mildly Deranged
who started this whole 'bender=gay' thing in the first place! besides, we
noticed and thought 'that's odd', when we first saw the show, but now if
someone says 'bender' to me, i think of the robot, not the word for a gay
person. That use of the word was pretty obscure before the show came along
anyway, even here in england.
So stop arguing about suck a pathetic topic!
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> gay brits? gay brits?
yes, you are thats what he wrote. We are all glad you can read and write.
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>"Bender" <ben...@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:<mkOqa.4703$1K5.3...@news3.news.adelphia.net>...
>> > Hmmm, I disagree. "Debugger" is an obvious pun on buggary, and to my
>> > British ears the joke is in the irony of someone called Bender
>> > worrying that he'll be considered a "robosexual" if he spends to much
>> > time with a guy, rather than worrying that his name is a word for
>> > homosexual.
>>
>> A "debugger" is one who removes bugs from a software program. Bender believes
>> people will be more comfortable thinking Fry's his debugger if they're seen
>> together a lot. Considering the creators/writers/producers of the show are all
>> American, I'd say there's a 0% possiblity of "debugger" being in reference to
>> "buggary."
>
>I'm aware of what a debugger is, that's why I said it was a *pun*. You
>know, a play on words? That pun would work even if the Bender thing
>isn't intentional, because "robosexuality" has just been mentioned. I
>don't see what the writers being american has to do with it, unless
>you don't use the word buggery (which is the american heritage
>dictionary).
We generally don't. The ones who do use it often are generally the
same ones who say "bloody" alot because they think it makes them look
cool.
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> "bender" can mean "a man who has sex with another man". But this ain't
> the first time I've "outed" a cartoon character.
I was recently chided in this newsgroup over thinking too much about
"cartoon DNA" (Fry being his own grandpa). Now here is a thread about
the sexuality of a cartoon character which by definition has neither
genitalia nor DNA, and has even voiced disgust about "organisms
shooting DNA at each other". Talk about a thread being a non-topic...
-jww
Albert the Mildly Deranged
sad. i'm gonna stop posting on this thread, in case it benefits such grade-A
assmongers as 'Darius' the...@charter.net and 'Jonson M.'
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Jonson M.
> here here, nice to see someone else thinking this whole bender=gay thing
is
> sad. i'm gonna stop posting on this thread, in case it benefits such
grade-A
> assmongers as 'Darius' the...@charter.net and 'Jonson M.'
> carso...@msn.com
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>zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com (Chief Thracian) wrote in message news:<d46ddbb9.03042...@posting.google.com>...
>> I just stumbled upon a piece of queer-slang trivia: In England,
>> "bender" can mean "a man who has sex with another man". But this ain't
>> the first time I've "outed" a cartoon character.
>
>I was recently chided in this newsgroup over thinking too much about
>"cartoon DNA" (Fry being his own grandpa). Now here is a thread about
>the sexuality of a cartoon character which by definition has neither
>genitalia nor DNA
My God...IT'S TURNED INTO ALT.TV.SIMPSONS
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Jonah Falcon
That Guy
bender" is someone who "bends the rules" of a gender. For example, as a
rule men don't wear women's clothing, so in the US a man who dresses in
women's clothing is sometimes referred to as a "gender bender." In the UK,
I believe, a man who dresses in women's clothes is usually referred to as a
"comedian".
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That Guy
"buggery." I have heard the word "bugger" used by Americans but it never
meant anal sex, it meant "rascal."
However, I think most Americans are aware of the British meaning of bugger,
and it is quite possible the writers did intend "debugger" as a pun, and
"Bender" as a sort of double pun. I'd like to think so.
It's fascinating to see another dimension of comedy open up in lines from
which I thought I had extracted all available humor. I believe it was
Nelson in the Simpsons who said "That's funny for so many reasons..."
Thanks for the enlightment, dude.
By the way, is the word "dingleberry" used in the UK? Just curious.
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ben w
> A "debugger" is one who removes bugs from a software program. Bender believes
> people will be more comfortable thinking Fry's his debugger if they're seen
> together a lot. Considering the creators/writers/producers of the show are all
> American, I'd say there's a 0% possiblity of "debugger" being in reference to
> "buggary."
Oh, come on. You could be more naive, but I don't see how.
It's *humor*, it's a joke, it's wordplay: it doesn't necessarily mean
that character (a) has sexual orientation (b) or that you need to call
Fred Phelps. They're just playing with words and innuendo for fun.
There's no way that "debugger" was an innocent word choice. Yes,
everyone involved is American, but they're also worldy, clever,
cosmopolitan people who have been around and know stuff.
"Bender" has a number of meanings, some risqué, some not -- people "go
on a bender" of drink/drugs/debauchery; a bender is a homosexual; a
"gender bender" is someone who challenges gender roles in the David
Bowie stylee -- and a bender is also the real, honest term for
machines that bend things. That's part of the fun. It allows them to
create ribaldries like the robosexual/debugger one, and absolute
deadpans like:
Bender: Of course. I'm a bender. I went to Bending College; I majored
in Bending.
Fry: What was your minor?
Bender: Robo-American Studies.
ben
A.C.
news:Avhra.139$m3....@news7.onvoy.net...
> and it is quite possible the writers did intend "debugger" as a pun, and
> "Bender" as a sort of double pun. I'd like to think so.
It was. The creators have publicly indicated they were surprised that got
past the censors.
Jonah Falcon
Jonah Falcon
Some Bloke
> > I realise that futurama is american, but I can't believe that the
> > makers aren't aware of the homosexual connotations of the word Bender.
> Nope.
Hmmm, I've just noticed from you screen name that maybe you're
slightly biased about whether or not "bender" might have homosexual
connotations...
I hope you have a little more self confidence than to reject outright
anything that you percieve might cast a modicum of doubt on your
virility.
Some bloke
Some Bloke
> "Bender" means a "One who, or that which, bends" or "a drinking spree" and
> in england its a nother word for a sizpence... Bender is a robot who bends
> things and drinks constantly and looks nothing like a coin so i'm sticking
> to the terms that make sense rahter than flights of fancy from the minority
> definition of from the gay brits...
Never heard a sixpence being called a bender before, but then I was
born after decimalisation, so I've never even seen a sixpence. The
most common meaning of bender i've come across (or at least as common
as the drinking binge meaning) is as a slightly derogatory term for a
homosexual. As a brit watching futurama who didn't know until recently
that that meaning does not exist in the states, it seemed natural that
that was the joke the writers were making. It is interesting to
discover that the joke is a bit more obscure than I first realised,
but I am confident that the writers had it in mind.
I'm not sure if your use of the term "gay brits" is referring
literally to gay british people. If that is the case then I'd point
out that it is not their "minority definition". I think "bender" is
considered slightly derogatory by most gays, and I don't think I've
heard any gay people use the word.
If on the other hand you were just calling british people gay, then
please grow up. I am not offended by being called gay (though it is
innaccurate). However, it might offend gay people reading your posts
to see you consider that the word "gay" is an insult.
Some bloke
The Infamous N
> No. Bender in this case means "drunk", as in "he went on a bender."
>
> Jonah Falcon
It could of course be a double (or even multiple) meaning name. Just because
someone points out something you hadn't thought of before doesn't mean it's
wrong.
Pete Killigrew
> Didn't realise that the term "bender" wasn't in common usage in the
> states. Yes, to call someone "bent" or a "bender" is to imply that
> they are gay. Thus the joke in the first episode:
> "I don't want people to think we're robosexuals, so if anyone asks,
> you're my debugger"
As a Yankee, the only meanings of "bent" or "bender" that I've ever
known have to do with drinking. "Man, I got really
bent/hammered/tanked/drunk last night." A "bender" is a prolonged
period of drinking, at least in the US ("He was on a three-day
bender.")
After all, doesn't Bender drink a lot?
PGK
That Guy
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> ri...@ndall.ndo.co.uk (Some Bloke) wrote ...
>
> > Didn't realise that the term "bender" wasn't in common usage in the
> > states. Yes, to call someone "bent" or a "bender" is to imply that
> > they are gay. Thus the joke in the first episode:
> > "I don't want people to think we're robosexuals, so if anyone asks,
> > you're my debugger"
>
> As a Yankee, the only meanings of "bent" or "bender" that I've ever
> known have to do with drinking.
As an American, I can assure you that if an American tells you to "get bent"
he does not mean you should "get drunk."
Chief Thracian
> English/American slang can be quite confusing. Ask a Brit if he cares
> for a fag and he'll probably respond that he quit smoking years ago.
Or he'll say, "Sure, mate!"
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Chief Thracian
> I don't think the homosexual connotation enters into it all.
> It's obviously a pun on the drunken rampage sense of the word.
"Obviously", eh? Not even a smidgeon of room in your brainpan, to
allow even the REMOTIST possibility that "Bender" may also be a gay
pun. Yes, keep your hetero Amerika "squeaky clean"...no faggots in
"God's country", don't you know!
I believe that the creators of Futurama are far more sophisticated
(read "worldly"), than a large segment of its Amerikan viewers.
I'm glad now, MORE THAN EVER, for bringing up one British definition
of "Bender"...seeing how it irks some folks. (Especially when a
participant regards referral to Bender being gay as somehow "sad". Oh,
boo-hoo...did I hurt the sensitive widdle feelings of a homophobe? I
sure hope so!
Had no idea such prejudices are still harbored by fans of
counter-culture style animations. Guess y'all just remain SILENT
whenever some positive references to homosexuals occurs in Futurama.
Chief Thracian
> A "debugger" is one who removes bugs from a software program. Bender believes
> people will be more comfortable thinking Fry's his debugger if they're seen
> together a lot. Considering the creators/writers/producers of the show are all
> American, I'd say there's a 0% possiblity of "debugger" being in reference to
> "buggary."
Yep, you're the man...the last word on everything "Futurama", esp.
when it concerns HOMOSEXUAL issues. Yep, you sure know what you all is
talkin' 'bout, eh?
> It does have a second context, which was explained precisely in the previous
> post. A bender is extended period of binge drinking. Bender is a
> heavy-drinking robot, who happily happens to be skilled in bending girders. His
> name has absolutely nothing to do with a hint at homosexuality.
Work it, girl! Yup, you sho' are the LAST WORD in this matter. Yep.
Nothing queer about Bender, don't you know!
> Nope.
Yep, you be the last word. Meanwhile, I'm gonna pick up a Gay Bender
doll for my boyfriend's birthday.
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A: Don't know yet; they're still trying to breed enough brains to meet
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Chief Thracian
> It's fascinating to see another dimension of comedy open up in lines from
> which I thought I had extracted all available humor.
Thanks! Now, if only we can get the homophobes toilet trained, we
wouldn't have to be forced to wallow in the dirty newsgroup nests they
create! I mean, what would a "gay" Bart Simpson say?
"Eat my jockstrap, homophobes!"
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Chief Thracian
> I'm 99% sure Bender was meant to refer to his propensity to indulge in
> alcohol.
Yes. No doubt you've done the research: consulted with one or more
Futurama creators. I'm 99% sure you're an uptight wanker.
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Pete Killigrew
> > As a Yankee, the only meanings of "bent" or "bender" that I've ever
> > known have to do with drinking.
>
> As an American, I can assure you that if an American tells you to "get bent"
> he does not mean you should "get drunk."
You do not drink, obviously.
Off the bat, I have no comment for either drinkers or homosexuals.
That being said, "That Guy" seems to be a Baptist with no idea of
real life.
"Getting bent" or "going on a Bender" are not in your vocabulary (this
is not to say that you have ever done this, despite his objections)?
You protest too much.
And you suck.
PGK
Chief Thracian
> Just because someone points out something you hadn't thought
> of before doesn't mean it's wrong.
Or that something didn't happen just because you weren't there. Or
that homosexuality truly is evil just because you were brainwashed by
a religious Troglodyte.
Chief Thracian
> gay brits? gay brits? fuck you, asshole, it was one of you american pigs
> who started this whole 'bender=gay' thing in the first place!
Wow. Homophobia from the other side of the pond. No surprise here. In
fact, someone is so freaked out by the suggestion that Bender could
also mean "gay", that he felt he had to start a NEW THREAD just to
expound against this. Can you say, "rabidly insecure"?
Chief Thracian
> I am not offended by being called gay (though it is
> innaccurate). However, it might offend gay people reading your posts
> to see you consider that the word "gay" is an insult.
Many blessings to you, "Some Bloke", for your considerate insight.
Likewise to others of the same cloth.
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That Guy
> "That Guy" <7...@f.com> wrote
>
> > > As a Yankee, the only meanings of "bent" or "bender" that I've ever
> > > known have to do with drinking.
> >
> > As an American, I can assure you that if an American tells you to "get
bent"
> > he does not mean you should "get drunk."
>
> You do not drink, obviously.
>
> Off the bat, I have no comment for either drinkers or homosexuals.
>
> That being said, "That Guy" seems to be a Baptist with no idea of
> real life.
LOL!! You're WAY off here...
> "Getting bent" or "going on a Bender" are not in your vocabulary (this
> is not to say that you have ever done this, despite his objections)?
>
> You protest too much.
Get bent.
Rev. Bleech_
(Chief Thracian) spewed forth:
>LooseChanj <Loose...@aol.com> wrote in message news:<_XHqa.18273$U17.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com>...
>
>> I don't think the homosexual connotation enters into it all.
>> It's obviously a pun on the drunken rampage sense of the word.
>
>"Obviously", eh? Not even a smidgeon of room in your brainpan, to
>allow even the REMOTIST possibility that "Bender" may also be a gay
>pun. Yes, keep your hetero Amerika "squeaky clean"...no faggots in
>"God's country", don't you know!
Wow, he spelled it "Amerika"...my mind is SO BLOWN, MAN !
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> "A.C." <nomadi...@removethistomailmehotmail.com> wrote in message news:<86Jqa.30993$7M5.2...@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
>
> > I'm 99% sure Bender was meant to refer to his propensity to indulge in
> > alcohol.
>
> Yes. No doubt you've done the research: consulted with one or more
> Futurama creators. I'm 99% sure you're an uptight wanker.
Aww, did someone have a bad day?
Kuja
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Albert the Mildly Deranged
all Brits are gay, especially when it was clearly originally meant as an
insult, and also when the vast majority of us clearly aren't!
"Chief Thracian" <zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com> wrote in message
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Albert the Mildly Deranged
about Futurama, right? If you're not, get out and find some
alt.gay.discussion or something, i dunno
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J. Wellington Wimpy
> Whoa, what is this, some gay vs straight group? we're all here to talk
> about Futurama, right? If you're not, get out and find some
> alt.gay.discussion or something, i dunno
The thread is on topic, as Bender is the subject of discussion. However, the
original poster's logic is flawed: 1) The character's name is Bender. 2) The
term "bender" meant "homosexual" once a long time ago, very far away. (We'll
give the poster the benefit of the doubt on this one). 3) Therefore, the
character Bender is homosexual. The conclusion here is a HUGE stretch, as we
wouldn't know the intent of the character's creators, unless they have said
so explicitly somewhere. It seems to me if the writers wanted to give a hint
that the robot was gay, they would have named it "Buttfuckbot" or some such.
-jww
Tan Coul
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But since no-one has ever said that the robot was gay, that's a pretty
silly argument. That there have been gay-related jokes with the
robot's name is inarguable unless you a) have no sense of humour, b)
decide to call yourself Bender on the internet and appear to be
rabidly homophobic. c) find it impossible that the writers of the show
may have a somewhat wider cultural range than yourself or d) all of
the above.
And anyone who fails to see the 'debugger' joke is so far in denial
that the Egyptians won't even see their head above the river surface.
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spewed forth:
>And anyone who fails to see the 'debugger' joke is so far in denial
Or thinks you're wrong about whether the bug or the debugger came
first.
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Geekoid
side of the pond.
There have been 'gender bender' references in the show. However I would
like to point out a few things.
1)Bender is from Mexico. his full name is: Bender Bending Rodriguez.
(thats very funny name if you think bender means 'gay')
2)Just because something is funny one way doesn't mean it was intended
to be funnt in that manner
3)The joke refers to 'robosexuals'. That has nothing to do with homosexuals.
4) bender is easiuly distracted by robots of the oposite robot
orientation. I mean really, how many gay pimps are there? I joke..
5) bender says 'Get bent' all the time. Is he saying 'get gay'? no. I
looked up bent in an english slang dictionary, bent meant 'gay' in the
mid 1900.
6) Both Bender and Bent are derogatory remarks. It would be the American
equivilant of naming him 'Fag'.
Personally, it had never occured to me that he may be gay, and I din't
know the slang terms. But after researching them, I don't think the
author intended the 'gay' meaning. I think it was because he bends
things. Mostly because of the de-bending reference in the first episode.
But hey, its a tv show, if you get laughs by finding gay jokes, more
power to you.
Kuja
Tan Coul
<ble...@bo-nc.ll-rr.ock-com.s> wrote:
>On Sun, 11 May 2003 13:21:07 +0100, Tan Coul <tan...@clara.co.uk>
>spewed forth:
>
>>And anyone who fails to see the 'debugger' joke is so far in denial
>
>Or thinks you're wrong about whether the bug or the debugger came
>first.
See what I mean? Classic case of denial :-)
Pete Killigrew
Before beginning my reply, I apologize to "That Guy" for my
belligerent response in a previous message. That being said ...
> > As a Yankee, the only meanings of "bent" or "bender" that I've ever
> > known have to do with drinking.
> As an American, I can assure you that if an American tells you to "get
> bent" he does not mean you should "get drunk."
Point taken. "Get bent" doesn't necessarily mean "go get drunk,"
but I have heard the phrase "I got bent" as another way of saying "I
got drunk."
> > "That Guy" seems to be a Baptist with no idea of real life.
> LOL!! You're WAY off here...
I apologize for that remark, also. "Baptist" is a pretty strong
word to throw around. :)
> Get bent.
Touché.
PGK