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Chief Thracian

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Apr 13, 2003, 12:20:35 AM4/13/03
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TAELONS = QUEER STEREOTYPE

(c) 2000 by Ezekiel J. Krahlin
(Jehovah's Queer Witness)

I abhor the show, "Earth: Final Conflict", because it
gets away with some very ignorant stereotyping of gay
people, as manifest in the Taelon race. I know Gene
Roddenberry dreamed of including gay folks as regular
characters in his Star Trek series...though was
censored by the Hollywood brownshirts.

When I first watched EFC ("Earth: Final Conflict"), I
was shocked to see this Taelon character: very swishy,
wrist-flicking, lisping, sissified, elitist,
weird-looking, ASEXUAL geek. I had to conclude that
these Taelons were created from the mind of a
well-meaning, but ignorant, heterosexual. Sure,
Roddenberry finally got his wish: but at what cost to
REAL gay people still burdened with the yoke of tyranny
by the same country that produces tripe like EFC?

Here we have an alien FAGGOT behaving like every good
faggot should (in the eyes of dogmatic Christians that
is), by not having any sex. And, by defining them as
asexual, the show could go on without the censors'
interference, which WOULD have happened if they were
portrayed as outright homosexual. Of course, everyone
KNOWS the Taelons are silly queers...and in that way,
and only that way, would the Amerikan publik accept
such regular gay characters.

If I were a well-meaning but ignorant hetero sci-fi
writer, I guess I could come up with a race of queers
that--by virtue of being asexual (as the Good Lord
wants them to be)--would evolve into these freaky types
with enormous brains that resulted from all this unused
sperm backing up the spine. Now, they would be put to
use serving (hetero) mankind.

These Taelon faggots are catering to every need of all
the earthling, redblooded HETERO heroes...not a gay
person among them. Again, the good Christian role of
every queer is to not only be asexual, but a SERVANT, a
SLAVE dedicated to the happiness of heterosexual
relationships. Just like in that Australian film,
"Priscilla, Queen of the Desert"; where some drag
queens are stuck in a redneck town, enhancing the
romantic lives of the hetero residents. Damned if they
didn't assist the happiness of any GAY person living
there (which residents didn't even seem to exist).

These Taelons are in no way handsome, or robust heroes
as are the star characters, who are OBVIOUSLY Amerikan
breeders. Also, "Taelon" suggests "talon", and you just
know how faggots love to pull out their claws and
scratch your eyes out, honey! Now, why stop with
Taelons? Why not "Babloons": a dark-skinned race that
trades in watermelon seeds, and whose lips are so big,
they can actually vibrate into action, their marvelous
rocket engines? Or yellow-skinned, slant-eyed
"Bayjings", whose massive overbite can open fuel pods
with a single chomp? Or "Gimplets" whose twisty
vestigial legs can serve as hooks for grasping and
riding on asteroids?

But my favorite idea is this: a sci-fi show featuring
"Heteroids": giant, semi-intelligent hemorrhoids that
are breeding themselves into oblivion by their own
animal lust. They, too, would be heroes (in a way)...as
an example of the horrors of overpopulation and dogma
of heterosexual supremacy.

---finis

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Permission granted by author for anyone to distribute
this writing free of charge (including translation into
any language)...under condition that no profit is made
therefrom, and that it remain intact and complete,
including title and credit to the original author.

Ezekiel J. Krahlin
http://surf.to/gaybible
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Suffer359

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Apr 16, 2003, 3:16:47 AM4/16/03
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I really can't understand this thing people have about the Taleons being
gay. Only Homosexual and Homophobic people seem to see this. Im a hetero guy
and Im not homophobic at all. I didn't see this. The Taelons were extremely
spiritual beings to the point where they had lost their sex drive (either
preference). They were also from another planet. Who knows what customs they
might have. Extremely religious people have a tendency to be geeky and weird
and don't have much sex either. The Taelons are NOT GAY!!

I think the author if this little article has some personal problems to sort
out. I won't even go into how wrong it is on alot of counts.....

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Chief Thracian

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Apr 17, 2003, 2:26:22 PM4/17/03
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"Suffer359" <portp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<zr7na.9455$UA6.9...@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>...

> I really can't understand this thing people have about the Taleons being
> gay. Only Homosexual and Homophobic people seem to see this.

Bullsh*t. I hear hardly any gay person speak out against this
ridiculous and extreme anti-gay stereotyping. But I *do* hear from
time to time, a straight person remark, "Are all the aliens on that
show gay?" That's because the stereotype is right there, staring you
in the face.

>Im a hetero guy and Im not homophobic at all.

More bullsh*t. What you mean is, you're very naive about the gay
issue, yet insist on being the last word. I--a queer activist since
1973--certainly couldn't teach you anything new (to you) about us, eh?
You ought to read some gay activist books or websites, to learn how
the world looks from sexual minorities' perspective. My site just a
great job, if you care to check it out.

> I didn't see this. The Taelons were extremely
> spiritual beings to the point where they had lost their sex drive (either
> preference). They were also from another planet.

That's the storyline...a coverup to get away with stereotype portrayal
of queers. Their appearance, their behavior says it all. You would
have the storyline blind people to the real issue: ugly stereotyping
of queers.

> Who knows what customs they might have.

Ahhh, so therefore my critique of the *reality*--actors playing very
stereotypical gays. And they are *not* from another planet. Who knows
what customs? What does that matter? You're just copping out from the
ugly truth.

> Extremely religious people have a tendency to be geeky and weird
> and don't have much sex either.

Ooops, another stereotype.

>The Taelons are NOT GAY!!

Their presentation is CLEARLY a stereotype of gay people. And my proof
of that was quite lucidly presented, in my original post.

> I think the author if this little article has some personal problems to sort
> out. I won't even go into how wrong it is on alot of counts.....

That's because you don't even HAVE any basis on which to claim my
"wrongness". So rather than come up with "a lot of counts" (which
would exhaust your wrinkled pea brain no end), you leave the
suggestion open, hoping that will suffice to convince people that I'm
off the wall. That is a vulgar way to debate--using no real proof to
back yourself--and hopping the bullies will join in the spree to
attack my very experienced insight as a gay activist living in a
homophobic society for almost 53 years.


---
"Many are called but few are chosen;
Step right up for your lederhosen."
- Big Gay Brother [ gay-bible.org ]

Suffer359

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Apr 17, 2003, 9:12:39 PM4/17/03
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"Chief Thracian" <zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com> wrote:

> Bullsh*t. I hear hardly any gay person speak out against this
> ridiculous and extreme anti-gay stereotyping.

Mabye they didn't see it either.

>But I *do* hear from
> time to time, a straight person remark, "Are all the aliens on that
> show gay?" That's because the stereotype is right there, staring you
> in the face.

I've heard that myself and I object to it as you do. They are not gay.

> More bullsh*t. What you mean is, you're very naive about the gay

> issue.

Fine. But, Im not talking about the "Gay Issue". I am merely commenting on
weather or not the Taelons are gay (which they are not). Mabye they appear
Gay (intentionally or not). I didn't see it. I've never seen anyone (gay or
not) act like a Taelon.

>yet insist on being the last word.

I think your describing yourself.

> That's the storyline...a coverup to get away with stereotype portrayal
> of queers.
>Their appearance, their behavior says it all. You would
> have the storyline blind people to the real issue: ugly stereotyping
> of queers.

I have yet to see proof of this. But if you say so. All I'm saying is I
never saw it. Mabye I wasn't looking for it.

> Ahhh, so therefore my critique of the *reality*--actors playing very
> stereotypical gays. And they are *not* from another planet. Who knows
> what customs? What does that matter? You're just copping out from the
> ugly truth.

The truth IN YOUR OPINION.

> Their presentation is CLEARLY a stereotype of gay people. And my proof
> of that was quite lucidly presented, in my original post.

What proof? Its clearly a stereotype to you, but not to me. I have yet to
see this proof. I have only heard an opinion. There is proof in the dialog
of the show that Taelons are not gay. Your just giving us your opinion. I
have an opinion to. We are both entitled to them.

> That's because you don't even HAVE any basis on which to claim my
> "wrongness".

For the record I didn't clue in that u were the author. And, your right. I
shouldn't have put it that way. If I insulted you I apologize. I'm thinking
now that I should have kept my mouth shut. But you seem to be backing up
what I said right now anyway. Because you've got something up your ass and
it has nothing to do with E:FC.

>So rather than come up with "a lot of counts" (which
> would exhaust your wrinkled pea brain no end)

Gee thanx alot. At least Im not having a cow. Take a pill.

>you leave the
> suggestion open, hoping that will suffice to convince people that I'm
> off the wall. That is a vulgar way to debate--using no real proof to
> back yourself--

You keep talking about proof. I haven't heard any proof from you. Your
accusing me of doing things that you are doing yourself. You don't seem
interested in hearing an opinion other than your own either. That's fine.
Suit yourself. I'm sorry I replied to this stupid post.


Junior

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Apr 18, 2003, 11:26:04 AM4/18/03
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What a complete load of bollox!

[and that's an opinion from a gay man!!!]

[[I watched the show and thought it was a good show about ALIENS!!!!]]

[[[Silly me!!!]]]


Chief Thracian

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Apr 19, 2003, 11:30:40 AM4/19/03
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"Junior" <te...@moofle.com> wrote in message news:<b7p5eb$4u8$1...@hercules.btinternet.com>...

> What a complete load of bollox!

What a shame you think that...considering my criticism is spot-on.

> [and that's an opinion from a gay man!!!]

Yeah, and no doubt more than enough queers would jump over a cliff (or
step into a gas chamber) if a hetero suggested he do that.

> [[I watched the show and thought it was a good show about ALIENS!!!!]]

Especially when it comes to perpetrating the horrid stereotype that we
queers are so ALIEN to "human" (read "hetero") society. And that's
just where they want to keep us: in our place.

Surely you can elevate your mind by watching shows of quality, that
portray some genuine sensitivity to your own kind (gay folk). Or, at
worst, just turn off the TV. Both choices highly preferrable to giving
any recognition to a crappy, heterocentric sci-fi series.

> [[[Silly me!!!]]]

Pinhead.

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Lavender-Velvet Revolution
http://www.gay-bible.org

Chief Thracian

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Apr 19, 2003, 11:45:50 AM4/19/03
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"Suffer359" <portp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<biIna.10596$UA6.1...@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>...

> > Bullsh*t. I hear hardly any gay person speak out against this
> > ridiculous and extreme anti-gay stereotyping.
>
> Mabye they didn't see it either.

Yes, unfortunately, way too many gays lack ANY political awareness, or
social conscious, of our gay family...and thus buy into hetero dogma
and narrow perspectives as merrily as Nazis escorted us into gas
chambers.

You don't see what you don't know about. People who don't read, don't
know about much. Most people don't read anything to do with gay
rights, unless it's forced in their faces. This, sadly, still includes
most queers.

Therefore, things have come to this pathetic impasse: not even being
able to discern even *blatant* anti-queer stereotypes. Sure, just have
the show's script call them "asexual", slap on a past history where
they were all heterosexual (in a distant past)...then you can portray
ugly queer stereotypes with not a single peep of opposition.

I wouldn't be so eager to advertise my ignorance, if I were you.

> >But I *do* hear from
> > time to time, a straight person remark, "Are all the aliens on that
> > show gay?" That's because the stereotype is right there, staring you
> > in the face.
>
> I've heard that myself and I object to it as you do. They are not gay.

Aha. Do you read what's happening here? You have inadvertantly proven
my point: that Taelons are simply TV portrayals of vulgar queer
stereotyping. This is PROVEN to you, whenever a hetero acquaintance
makes a remark about Taelons being gay. You should have learned
something right there...and then would have acknowledged my outraged
insight. Unfortunately, you have learned...

NOTHING.

> I've never seen anyone (gay or
> not) act like a Taelon.

You must lead a very sheltered life...or are just plain lying. Gay
*stereotypes*, for one, are usually acted out by heteros, not queers.
And you certainly will see plenty of that, if you just observe
homophobia in action. It's all over the country (USA), and many, many
others.

> >yet insist on being the last word.
>
> I think your describing yourself.

Every gay person should have the last word on gay issues, when arguing
with heteros (or even bisexuals).

> I have yet to see proof of this. But if you say so. All I'm saying is I
> never saw it. Mabye I wasn't looking for it.

I'm educating you, but your innate (soft) homophobia stands in the
way, like an immovable concrete wall.

> The truth IN YOUR OPINION.

Yes: the opinion of someone who's 100% gay (since birth), and been a
queer activist of many accomplishments since 1973. Yes, it is not only
my opinion, but one with much expertise. Unlike others here.

> Because you've got something up your ass and
> it has nothing to do with E:FC.

How would you know, if I didn't bring anything up about my ass? What's
on YOUR mind?

> Gee thanx alot. At least Im not having a cow. Take a pill.

Figures your response to someone attempting to raise people's
consciousness about gay rights, is to take a drug. Or IOW: "stop
thinking" (and let you watch your stupid show that insults queers).

> You keep talking about proof. I haven't heard any proof from you. Your
> accusing me of doing things that you are doing yourself.

Think of the worst queer stereotypes created by our heterosexist
society. Then compare it with the display of Taelons on TV. Perfect
overlap. Here's a poem I wrote many years ago, that seems quite apt to
the present topic:


CHICKEN LITTLE'S WOE

The sky fell long ago,
So now we sing ballads of
Chicken Little's woe.

The wolves now lurk
Beneath our skin,
Gorging themselves on the fat
Or our sins.

And when we're plump
With no regrets,
We'll watch the wolves
On TV sets.


---
Consider me the ampersand in S&M
http://www.gay-bible.org

Suffer359

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Apr 19, 2003, 5:42:06 PM4/19/03
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"Chief Thracian" <zekeol...@chiefthracian.mailshell.com> wrote:

> > The truth IN YOUR OPINION.
>
> Yes: the opinion of someone who's 100% gay (since birth), and been a
> queer activist of many accomplishments since 1973. Yes, it is not only
> my opinion, but one with much expertise. Unlike others here.

So just because your gay we should take your word as fact that the Taelons
are a queer stereotype? Sorry, I need a little more proof than that and it
seems you have none. How long you've been gay is irrelevant.


Tippi

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Apr 21, 2003, 5:29:30 PM4/21/03
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Chief Thracian, can you carry on a conversation civily without
implying that anyone who don't see things the way you do is a stupid
idiot? your viewpoints may be valid but it's a real turn off to read
the bitter and acidic comments you make, making it hard to agree with
you. "You attract more flies with honey..." etc.

I have a question for you, what if Roddenberry's original intention
was good, that gender should be irrelevent, and it was just executed
poorly in the show? in the pilot for ST:TOS, there was already an
alien with a big bald head, played by a woman, with a man's voice.
Would it make a difference if the aliens were played by men but have
women's voices? Also in the ST:TNG series, there was a planet where
males and females played the same mono-gender roles, and when one
female exhibited romantic feelings towards Riker, she was immediately
"re-educated".

You must really hate this show as you posted the exact same article in
2000.

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