MSDN Universal...
Kevin
please explain the huge pricing discrepancies between various vendors?
For example, here are some current prices:
Amazon has it for: $2,446.99
vlane.com has it for $1,139.00
viosoftware.com has it for $1,399.00
and buycheapsoftware.com has it for $1,170.00
Is there something that I am missing? I want to purchase the product, and
I'd be much happier to pay $1100ish dollars than full retail. If someone
could please confirm that these are not too good to be true, I'd greatly
appreciate it.
Thanks in advance,
Kevin
Michael Tissington
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Michael Tissington
Oaklodge Technologies
http://www.oaklodge.com/technology
"Kevin" <krs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Kevin
Thanks for the reply... glad to know it's not a scam...
btw your SQLView looks interesting...where do you set the connect string to
the db... I'm looking at it as a possible replacement of Outlook Web
Access... does it store outlook mail messages?
Regards,
Kevin
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Pat Bhakta
at first i was hesitant because it looks shady, but i have full universal
access...although i do have trouble getting intelligent replys in newsgroups
and often way past 72 hours like they claim for vsutio support
"Kevin" <krs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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FN
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VernJi...@attbi.com
know it can be found for around $1000. What does this give the purchasers
rights to and what does it not? As I understand it it gives legal copies of
Office, Project, Visio and the development applications but not legal of
their delivery applications like an OS or IIS server. I'm still looking into
this so any info would be appreciated.
"Kevin" <krs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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John
in that level. I ended up paying about $1200 for my MSDN universal -
and that's the subscription I have. Microsoft isn't looking at the
price you paid, but what you bought. I have the same Universal
subscription I had when I bought it direct from Microsoft and paid
twice the price.
John
VernJi...@attbi.com
MSDN Universal (Single User License)?
It's not very clear from the Microsoft literature.
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Scott W
believe in the first place, that an additional $300 rebate is even harder to
believe. How do these guys get away with it ? Razor thin margins ?
Thanks, Scott
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krains
to obtain another subscription for a second person in our company (I
currently have an Enterprise level subscription that I purchased through
PROVANTAGE.com). I would obviously like to buy a Universal subscription if
I could get it legitimately for less than what I paid for my Enterprise sub.
A recent thread discussed this issue, but did not really resolve the issue
in my mind. I definitely want a LEGAL copy -- and as stated below, just
because something works (i.e. a subscription number activated by one of
these discount internet stores) doesn't mean that it is legal. Here is a
portion of that thread (please excuse the length of this, but I'm trying to
supply as much info as possible):
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Here is the official word that I received from the Marketing team. I
believe one of the key points is to be sure that you receive an activation
card that you call in. If the reseller promises to do this for you, then
they are not following the delivery terms set out for them by Microsoft:
The sheer volume and ever changing number of offers, resellers, businesses,
marketing programs and selling that takes place on the global commerce stage
precludes Microsoft from being in a position to validate every MSDN
subscription offer in the market. As is the basis for any general purchasing
decision you may make, it is in your best interest to thoroughly investigate
who you are buying anything from. Generally speaking, we have found that the
following are some common sense warning signs to look out for (but by no
means limited to)...
- A price that is "too good to be true"
- Suspicious methods of delivery and/or payment requirements
- Retail software distributed in jewel cases only, or brown boxes, rather
than full-color retail boxes which clearly display the "authentic product"
markers such as the tamper resistant Microsoft Authentic Product Holograms
or Foils etc. that are a part of normal Microsoft product packaging
- Software marked with a phrase, such as "For distribution with a new PC
only" or "Special CD - for licensed customers only," that does not
accurately describe the transaction
When you order an individual MSDN Subscription, you should receive an MSDN
box with an activation card inside. You can use the information on the card
to activate your subscription online, via phone, fax or mail. If a reseller
does not send you an MSDN box with an activation card, they are not
following the standard delivery for MSDN Subscriptions.
Finally, there are sites designed to provide education on what you should
receive when acquiring software licenses or how to tell if what you are
seeing is genuine Microsoft software - Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/ to learn more about how Microsoft
licensing programs work and the options that are available to consumers.
Visit http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/default.asp to learn how to tell if
what you are looking at is genuine Microsoft software.
--
Andy Boyd
Program Manager
MSDN Subscriber Downloads
(remove the .online from the return address for direct e-mail)
"Jean Smolders" <smol...@fuse.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone have any experiemce with eBargainSoftware.
>
> They offer the Universal Upgrade for $ 1099, while Microsoft charges $
2299.
>
> Are these guys for real?
>
> --
> Jean Smolders
> Email: smol...@fuse.net
>
Message 7 in thread
From: Ronny Ong (ronn...@killspam-bigfoot.com)
Subject: Re: MSDN Universal Subscription Upgrade Price
"Andy Boyd [MS]" <and...@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Here is the official word that I received from the Marketing team. I
> believe one of the key points is to be sure that you receive an activation
> card that you call in. If the reseller promises to do this for you, then
> they are not following the delivery terms set out for them by Microsoft:
And that's exactly what eBargainsoftware's scam is... "When a MSDN
Subscription is purchased in a retail box, it contains a activation card
with a number. This number must be used to activate the subscription online
or by mail. At eBargainsoftware.com, when a customer purchases a MSDN
Subscription, we handle the activation process."
Message 8 in thread
From: Dennis Grinberg (tem...@grinberg.info)
Subject: Re: MSDN Universal Subscription Upgrade Price
Date: 2003-03-27 14:03:10 PST
I am confused about this. While they don't follow the delivery terms of
Microsoft (which they should), why is this a scam? What do they gain by
performing the activation for you? (Assuming, of course, that they do which
I have very good reason to believe that they do.)
Dennis
"Ronny Ong" <ronn...@killspam-bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> "Andy Boyd [MS]" <and...@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:O506VKI...@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Here is the official word that I received from the Marketing team. I
> > believe one of the key points is to be sure that you receive an
activation
> > card that you call in. If the reseller promises to do this for you,
then
> > they are not following the delivery terms set out for them by Microsoft:
>
>
> And that's exactly what eBargainsoftware's scam is... "When a MSDN
> Subscription is purchased in a retail box, it contains a activation card
> with a number. This number must be used to activate the subscription
online
> or by mail. At eBargainsoftware.com, when a customer purchases a MSDN
> Subscription, we handle the activation process."
>
>
>
Message 9 in thread
From: Schooner (scho...@accesswave.ca)
Subject: Re: MSDN Universal Subscription Upgrade Price
Date: 2003-03-27 14:20:31 PST
Yes I am a bit confused as well. If your subscription is activated and you
receive MSDN shipments what is the issue?
"Dennis Grinberg" <tem...@grinberg.info> wrote in message
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> I am confused about this. While they don't follow the delivery terms of
> Microsoft (which they should), why is this a scam? What do they gain by
> performing the activation for you? (Assuming, of course, that they do
which
> I have very good reason to believe that they do.)
>
> Dennis
>
Message 10 in thread
From: Ronny Ong (ronn...@killspam-bigfoot.com)
Subject: Re: MSDN Universal Subscription Upgrade Price
Date: 2003-03-28 03:32:04 PST
This is like saying that you could buy a stolen car, and it might drive as
well as any other car. Also, you paid for it in good faith, so it's
rightfully yours. Never mind that it seemed odd to get a brand new Mercedes
for $10,000. I don't think the police would find the logic convincing enough
to let you keep the car, and they're also not going to give you back the
$10,000. Even after an official Microsoft spokesperson defined for you here
that a legit MSDN subscription comes with the activation card, you want to
believe that your car is legit just because it drives fine.
eBargainsoftware is taking advantage of OEM discounts from Microsoft. Those
discounts were intended to make it possible for hardware manufacturers to
add value to their hardware products by bundling Microsoft products, and
being able to do so without the big impact of adding "a la carte" pricing to
their hardware's cost. Microsoft restricts OEM product partly to protect the
business of their regular retail and reseller channels. Those businesses
don't make hardware, so software margins are their only opportunity to make
money.
eBargainsoftware ships a small piece of junk hardware with each software
sale, like a mounting bracket or even a small screw, so they can claim to be
bundling software with hardware. Common sense tells you that they are
cheating, even if they technically conform to the letter of the rules. The
OEM discounts let them sell for much less than the wholesale cost that
retailers and resellers pay. In other words, what eBargainsoftware is doing
is known as anticompetitive behavior.
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Thanks.
krains
Andy Boyd [MS]
agreement. I can't say more on this right now, except to note that this is
something that we're currently looking into. Here is the official response
that I've received from my marketing representative on this:
Response to low MSDN pricing
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They don't send you anything. They activate the subscription and MS sends
the DVDs. I ordered on a Thursday and got access to download on Wed the next
week. I think I could have had access on Tue if I had called that day.
About the time I finished downloading I received the DVDs in the mail.
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