System turning off but no anymore. Would like some confirmation.
Sam
I have a Asus A7V133 1gig Amd processor and 256megs ram running Windows
XPpro. I went to a lan party last night and hooked up to someone elses power
supply. Five others were running off the same wall socket. My system ran
fine for the first 2 hours but then it started to just cut completely off.
My power light would flash for about 15 seconds, stop, then I could power it
back on where it would stay on for 2 or 3 minutes. It did this about 8
times. I then switched to someone elses power supply and it ran fine for the
next 10 hours. I did a check (power supply voltage readings and cpu temp) in
the bios and Sisoft Sandra (a system status utility) and everything checked
out ok. So as Im assuming now, was the power supply I was plugged into
causing the problem? None of the others were having any difficulty with
their systems thats why Im still hesitant to totally believe it. Was this
the problem?
Thanks
Jon Lewter
Okay
Okay ..
Okay .......
I don't want to sound stupid here or anything .. but umm
Why didn't you use your own power supply? .. Do you mean a UPS .. do you
mean that you were all using the same "PLUG" .. Heh .. Do you mean that you
were using someone else's power supply at the same time as them lol ..
It just sounds really really confusing as to what you were actually doing
here m8 ..
Jon
"Sam" <f.c...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Sam
The 5 of us were using 2 power strips daisy chained together. One of the 2
power strips connected to a large orange extension cord which in turn
connected to a power outlet in the wall. Make sense now? :-)
thanks
"Jon Lewter" <jonl...@netzero.net> wrote in message
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Jon Lewter
Not a smart move to be honest!!!!!
Knowing a bit about electricity I can tell you this works..
This should (I say should) have no effect on your system .. There was more
of a chance of a burnout in the wall socket itself or probably the extension
cord itself. You should check your power supply to make sure its within
tolerance .. also have those guys check their grounding at their house ..
it's possible there is a fault there ..
Jon
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Sam
So did this cause my system shutdown problem? Its been fine since.
thanks
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Jon Lewter
I mean .. think of it this way .. the wall socket will supply you power
until you blow a fuse or trip a breaker .. or burn out the line .. basically
everything is hooked up in parallel .. and as such .. all systems will see
the same voltage (as long as there is enough to go around) .. It's possible
to run out of electricity .. but that's something that's virtually
impossible to explain .. The only way that your shutdown problems could have
been caused by their power is if there was a grounding problem .. Or if your
psu was seeing spikes of noise from all of the pc's hooked up on the line ..
so from my electrical standpoint I've really got to say no it wasn't the
culprit to your system failure ..
Jon
"Sam" <f.c...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Sam
strip I was plugged into was faulty. It looked like a ten cent job and soon
as I switch to someone elses connected to a totally different wall outlet I
was fine. Oh well as long as it doesnt happen again. If it does I assume I
will have to suspect my power supply. I got my tower with the 300w power
supply for XMAS. Maybe its not totally stable even though the readings say
it is.
Thanks
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Jon Lewter
Jon
"Sam" <f.c...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Pete Ulrich
> Hi,
>
> The 5 of us were using 2 power strips daisy chained together. One of the
2
> power strips connected to a large orange extension cord which in turn
> connected to a power outlet in the wall. Make sense now? :-)
>
> thanks
>
caused a voltage drop which resulted in the shutdown. Some PSUs may be more
sensitive to power fluctuations than others.
Jon Lewter
of having the voltages differ then the house needs to be completely rewired
refused and rechecked because somewhere more than one safety is falling
short ..
Jon
"Pete Ulrich" <pmul...@netnitco.net> wrote in message
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Pete Ulrich
> I would doubt a power drop .. If your loading down a house plug to the
point
> of having the voltages differ then the house needs to be completely
rewired
> refused and rechecked because somewhere more than one safety is falling
> short ..
>
> Jon
>
The voltage at the receptacle probably wouldn't drop much but the extension
cord's (maybe #18 wire) resistance will cause a voltage drop under heave
load. That's why they get hot.
Maybe you've had the experience in your house where the lights dim when a
motor load occurs. The motor pulls a lot of current at startup which drops
the voltage on the circuit. This is only a momentary occurrance. But if
you're pulling current for several computers through an extension cord, the
problem is continuous and probably led to one of the boxes shutting down.
Sam
on a military base at a old meeting hall so the wiring is probably pretty
old.
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Jon Lewter
@ 1.5 amp each .. that's 9 amps.. a wall plug ideally should die at what 10?
.. that 1.5 should jump a bit depending on load .. if it's a lan party I
would guess heavy gaming and figgure more of 2+ amp per machine peak .. 12
amps on a plug is high .. as you say put that over a long lead and you'll
see voltage drop .. but he did say that it was a large orange extension cord
.. so it's awg is probably less than 18 .. 14 or 12 should be fine .. I
think they were overloading the socket and should be lucky that they didnt
burn the plug out itself ;) .. I guess I'me just looking at it from a
different view than you .. cause it sounds like you know a little bit about
loads and such :) ..
Jon
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Sam
switch ;-). All I can say its been 5 days since the incident running an
average 13 hours a day and it hasnt shut down since and as I said as soon as
I attached to another power strip on another outlet the problem stopped. So
I vote for the cheapo power strip being the problem. I thing the proof is in
the pudding :-). thanks for the feedback
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Don Posey
We're probably (collectively speaking) on the right track here.....
First, "daisy chaining" ANY power source is a no no. Each connection raises amp
draw slightly, depending on type/quality of connection. In addition, the longer
your daisy chain, the more voltage drop will occur.
Second, 1.5 amps times 5 machines ...7.5 amps. Plus the monitors. Plus the a/c
adaptors for the modem and 5.1 sound system. Plus the surround sound amp. Plus,
Plus, Plus....
by the way...what *else* was on that circuit, and why did the breaker not trip?
Here in DC area, 15/20 amp rated receptacles are common, and the typical house
line breaker is at 15 or 20 amps per circuit.
I agree with the previous poster that your machine was the "least fault
tolerant".
That is not a bad thing, it just means your machine is more picky about it's
power requirements-common in the newer P4 and Athlon psu's.
Don