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Lisa M. Wilson
SuperMan wrote in message ...Wow, that is cool. I never would have imagined.There never were any really huge BBS's in the Atlanta(where im at) area that I was aware of that would have done anything like that.Wow I can't believe it, 1 million a year off a BBS. I am impressed.
Robert Michnick
full walk-up computer store as well. We had a pretty good size staff as
well. Sigh, thos were the days... ProStar is still alive, mostly
gameplay, but usually 50- 60 on-line....
Rob
Prostar2000.net
Lisa M. Wilson
California that made a million plus a year profit was an adult system. Guy
ran it out of a spare bedroom of his home... no offices, no staff. I
remember watching a part of 20/20 (maybe 20/20) many years ago that gave
this guy some serious coverage. Can't remember what the topic of the 20/20
piece was (maybe just the burgeoning online adult entertainment business)
but I definitely remember them talking about a million dollar a year BBS
based out of this guys house, and an interview with him and his wife.
Robert Michnick wrote in message ...
Robert Michnick
hundred dial-up line, and were always full. We also wrote a bunch of
stuff for the BBS world, MailLink, InterLink, Command Center to name a
few. We made some pretty good money back then, although most went back
into the system. Today I run ProStar as a free service just for the fun
of it. We just could not let it die....
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa M. Wilson [mailto:ra...@cox.net]
Posted At: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:41 AM
Posted To: majorbbs
Conversation: Excaliber.Net - New, Fresh MajorMUD and More!
Mike Polzin
made an easy six digits a year, and a number that I'm sure hit the
million dollar revenue figure. I can tell you from the developers side
that there were at least a half dozen that fell into the latter
categoy. I was talking to these people every day, and even then it
astounded me that a BBS could pull in that kind of revenue. I think it
depended greatly on the market though, and who ever was first had a
huge advantage.
Even many of the developers were making six digits a year(some might
have done seven by I wasn't privvy to others numbers), including my
company WilderLand Software. Logicom cleaned up, in fact they
inherited the ProStar line of software that made them most of their
money. High Velocity, CheerSoft, and DataSafe to name a few others.
Selling WG software and doing WG consulting was big business.
Alot of those people were real pioneers of the online world. Most have
disappeared since, but it would be interesting to see what some of
them are doing now days. I manage to keep in touch with a few people
from back then, but I think some don't want to be found.
Mike Polzin
WilderLand Software
Robert Michnick <rob...@prostaria.com> wrote in message news:<A7EB089B57AD294C83F...@server.prostaria.com>...
Bert Rozenberg
news:7f0220e.02050...@posting.google.com...
>
> Alot of those people were real pioneers of the online world. Most have
> disappeared since, but it would be interesting to see what some of
> them are doing now days. I manage to keep in touch with a few people
> from back then, but I think some don't want to be found.
We're still here.
--
Bert Rozenberg
Mountain Rose Multi Media
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Leon Miller
Hello Bob,
It has been years since you signed me for majornet and I had to call your
BBS in seattle. I heard you went to Microsoft, then back to the BBS. I
also remember an application that allowed you to award credits to a person
who desired to purchase them on-line. Are you on the web?
--
http://www.logosnet.net/ http://members.logosnet.net
You've tried the rest...
Voice: (954) 360-0538
Cracker-Jack
But you never did finish the Power Add-On for Webblaster Pro.
Robert
> Robert Michnick wrote:
>
> > In our prime, ProStar Plus (Seattle, Wa), had commercial offices and a
> > full walk-up computer store as well. We had a pretty good size staff as
> > well. Sigh, thos were the days... ProStar is still alive, mostly
> > gameplay, but usually 50- 60 on-line....
> >
> > Rob
> > Prostar2000.net
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
>
> Hello Bob,
>
> It has been years since you signed me for majornet and I had to call your
> BBS in seattle. I heard you went to Microsoft, then back to the BBS. I
> also remember an application that allowed you to award credits to a person
> who desired to purchase them on-line. Are you on the web?
>
>
BBS world back then.. Now, ProStar is a fun free system that lots of our
old member are coming back to.. You can telnet to prostar2000.net.
Rob
Lisa M. Wilson
Dr Corey
there was a big mbbs system in la, ca with like 80 lines,
and a mbbs system here in Lv, Nv that had 128 lines.
The Ca system was The Garbage Dump, and here it was MultiComm.
Dr Corey
Brian Scott
I agree that WG is going downhill fast with no bottom in sight, but at one time......it was the mecca.
The Garbage Dump also had monthly get togethers with at least 40 or more each month. Nuff said. The
Garbage Dump was owned by Dean Kerl, same one that owned Datasafe. They moved to Arizona after selling
The Dump, and apparently now are out of business. I was there during the nights of dialup that they had
over 120 users online and it was like molasses. Spent many dollars playing the best version of
Tele-Arena out there. In fact, check with Vircom, ta97 was a takeoff of The Dumps arena.
Brian Scott
and it has never been the same, over 160 lines. Not bad for Albuquerque. I doubt it had many other
competitors during its day. Once Metropolis bought it, it seldom has more than 10-15 users on at a
time. Worldgroup is slowly but surely pricing itself out of business. Now, only the hackers want to
use it, and what alot of hacked WG systems out there.
Lisa M. Wilson
Brian Scott wrote in message <3CD5C7CC...@rsvp4vets.com>...
>As far as Commercial space and staff? At it's heyday, it had over
>10 paid staff in it's office. Lisa, I agree that WG is going downhill
>fast with no bottom in sight, but at one time......it was the mecca.
At one time, yes. What kills me is to watch a company continue to try to
market
a product that has no viable use in the online industry yet call it more
powerful than
many similar products. Worldgroups could be a viable server package again
if
Nate and the boys at NetVillage were to invest some serious time into it,
and change
their marketing strategy.
I know if Worldgroups had been kept up to date we would most likely be
running it
instead of developing our own system. It would have saved on time and
money. Alas, that wasn't the case though.
>The Garbage Dump also had monthly get togethers with at least 40 or
>more each month. Nuff said. The Garbage Dump was owned by Dean
>Kerl, same one that owned Datasafe. They moved to Arizona after selling
>The Dump, and apparently now are out of business. I was there during
>the nights of dialup that they had over 120 users online and it was like
>molasses. Spent many dollars playing the best version of Tele-Arena
>out there. In fact, check with Vircom, ta97 was a takeoff of The Dumps
>arena.
Never played TeleArena. Have heard of Garbage Dump though, and of course
I'm familiar with Datasafe... err, was familiar with DataSafe. Playpen had
decent turnouts for weekly get-togethers, and huge turnout for monthly
parties. They also hosted some of the best Halloween and New Years Eve
parties, from what I've heard.
Honestly, I've never dialed in to a BBS. With only a couple exceptions when
I was taking a serious look at Worldgroups, I've never bothered telnetting
into a BBS. BBSes are dead, as far as I'm concerned... maybe not hobby
systems, but I wouldn't expect to make any serious money off one... I could
honestly care less about Worldgroup's application as a BBS package... But
I'd really like to see some serious development of its web/active html
server, ftp/file library modules and email/nntp/forums components. And the
256 node limitation needs to disappear too... as well as the line-count
licensing system.
Our original interest in Worldgroups was as a backend for a Camarades type
site (online webcam community), and it could have worked well provided it
was more flexible and could handle more than 256 connections. Oh well... in
the end it will be NetVillage's loss for burying their heads in the sand and
letting technology cruise on by.
Lisa M. Wilson
Brian Scott wrote in message <3CD5C6DE...@rsvp4vets.com>...
>The Garbage Dump was in Albuquerque, New Mexico, not California. It had,
before Metropolis bought it
>and it has never been the same, over 160 lines.
Nothing Metropolis gets its hands on is ever the same again. LoL.
Howard
fellow-veteran on this newsgroup :)
Howard
Lisa M. Wilson wrote:
> Having a spokesmodel for a BBS is funny? It used to be common practice
> when the online adult entertainment industry was still in its infancy...
> back in the day when such business was conducted by dial up to BBSes or
> if it was a big board and had net access, by telnet. The Playpen (in
> Washington, D.C.) had -lots- of spokesmodels as I recall. There was
> another board in California (used to make a million plus a year in
> profits after expenses) that had a whole slew of spokesmodels. I'm sure
> there were -many- others back in the ultra-competitive adult BBS days,
> but alas, they're all on the web now (and many sites still use a
> particular girl from their ranks of "starletts" as an ad-hoc spokesmodel
> of sorts).
>
> SuperMan wrote in message ...
>
> Hahaha, not trying to be offensive or anyting but I just thought it
> was funny to have a spokes model for a bbs.
>
> Is that like your wife or daughter or what?
>
> "Howard Sherman" <lordr...@erols.com
> <mailto:lordr...@erols.com>> wrote in message
> news:3CA8C470...@erols.com...
>
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> <http://www.excaliber.net>
>
> Online Since 1995
>
> NEWS FLASH - MAJORMUD GAME RESET TODAY!
>
>
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> main Server and TWO Dedicated Game Servers!
> * Downloads - We have thousands of the latest, virus-free
> files. If you need it, we have it!
> * Your own personal home page - 20MB of your own web space with
> NO ads and NO banners!
> * Adult Files - 30,000+ plus pictures and movies! We are better
> than the BEST adult site!
> * Chat - Real-time chat WITHOUT the spammers, losers and
> fakers. REAL people and REAL fun!
> * Video chat - Hook up your cam and host your own video chat.
>
> We have ALOT more. Stop in and see...
>
> telnet://excaliber.net
> http://www.excaliber.net
>
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>
>
> Come by and see ALOT more of Spokesmodel Jolanta :)
>
>
Howard
While the BBS is HARDLY the core of our business, we're developing it as
a revenue source from the standpoint that alot of people are tired of
the message trailers in email from Yahoo, Hotmail, etc. and are also
tired of the banners, SPAM, data-mining, privacy invasion, etc.
Besides, the corporate online model is sooooo stuffy!! :)
Geez. I had no idea that a post advertising my BBS would produce such
an excellent message thread :)
Howard
Howard
SuperMan wrote:
> Hahaha, not trying to be offensive or anyting but I just thought it was
> funny to have a spokes model for a bbs.
>
> Is that like your wife or daughter or what?
>
> "Howard Sherman" <lordr...@erols.com
> <mailto:lordr...@erols.com>> wrote in message
> news:3CA8C470...@erols.com...
>
> <news://lordr...@news.earthlink.net:119/tDqA8.41420$fW5.8...@typhoon.atl.ipsvc.net?header=quotebody&part=1.2>
> <http://www.excaliber.net>
>
> Online Since 1995
>
> NEWS FLASH - MAJORMUD GAME RESET TODAY!
>
>
> * Real Email - Get your own @excaliber.net email address. Use your
> favorite email program or our custom interface
> * Games - Over 30 online games spread over THREE servers - Our main
> Server and TWO Dedicated Game Servers!
> * Downloads - We have thousands of the latest, virus-free files. If
> you need it, we have it!
> * Your own personal home page - 20MB of your own web space with NO
> ads and NO banners!
> * Adult Files - 30,000+ plus pictures and movies! We are better than
> the BEST adult site!
> * Chat - Real-time chat WITHOUT the spammers, losers and fakers.
> REAL people and REAL fun!
> * Video chat - Hook up your cam and host your own video chat.
>
> We have ALOT more. Stop in and see...
>
> telnet://excaliber.net
> http://www.excaliber.net
>
> <news://lordr...@news.earthlink.net:119/tDqA8.41420$fW5.8...@typhoon.atl.ipsvc.net?header=quotebody&part=1.3>
Lisa M. Wilson
scene started taking off, and I was just "coming of age" when it starting
dying off.
Howard wrote in message <3CD6AB55...@erols.com>...
Lisa M. Wilson
>a revenue source from the standpoint that alot of people are tired of
>the message trailers in email from Yahoo, Hotmail, etc. and are also
>tired of the banners, SPAM, data-mining, privacy invasion, etc.
This is -exactly- where Worldgroups still has potential! As an example,
what we were looking for our online community:
Forums: Flexible forums allowing for private messages between users as well
as public posts, ala Snitz Forums, phpBB2, Ikon, etc. Subscription options
to the forums, ala Yahoo! was a must. Didn't seem easily added to the
existing Worldgroups forums component.
Email: Regular web-based email service. The interface is there, but the
email component of Worldgroup is severely handicapped with its size
limitation.
Streaming Video/VOD: The WebCast component seemed quite capable of
fulfilling this role, but Worldgroups itself can't handle more that 256
connections, and we needed to plan for (at minimum) several hundred
broadcasters (remote webcams) and several thousand streaming video feeds
(remote viewers). Even if Worldgroups didn't have the line count
limitation, the cost of acquiring that many "lines" would have been
astronomically high.
Teleconferece: MBBS/Worldgroups had one of the hottest teleconfereces I've
ever seen. Even now it blows most web-based chat applications away. But
again, for what we needed it didn't stand up to the test. I'd love to see
the teleconference module replaced with a true IRC style server.
FTP Server/File Libraries: They blow. I don't have anything good to say
about these two components. No nesting, even from the FTP server side of
things.
Flexibility: Worldgroups has none. You get what you get. If you want to
change anything, you've got to get an SDK and hope you can find copies of
some pretty old Borland compilers. Something as simple as adding the
[FDEF_DESCRIPTION] to the /forums/list module of the active html server was
a pain in the butt. (Why this text variable wasn't included in the
/forums/list variables in the first place is beyond me, but silly decisions
like that can be found throughout the product.)
>Besides, the corporate online model is sooooo stuffy!! :)
Hey, I resemble that remark!
>Geez. I had no idea that a post advertising my BBS would produce such
>an excellent message thread :)
It is an interesting thread at that!
Lisa M. Wilson
Howard wrote in message <3CD6AB96...@erols.com>...
>For the record, Jolanta is a professional model we picked up from an
agency.
I better not let the other half see that... he might try to trade me in for
a newer, better, more improved (and less cranky) model.
Howard
be a substitute for a real, down-to-earth wife :)
Phil Kmble
>
> I better not let the other half see that... he might try to trade me in
for
> a newer, better, more improved (and less cranky) model.
>
Nope! Chances are most men will take a look at the Z3, new T-Bird Coupe, a
nd quickly decide it is much less expensive to keep the older, cranky, P200
around!
Simply install more RAM and a fresh copy of linux!!!
Brian Scott
Lisa M. Wilson
just some copy of Windows after 30 days on the typical home computer? I
hope that's not what you're inferring, because we all know men have more in
common with MS products than all women in the world combined. ;o)
Five ways guys resemble Micro$uck or Micro$uck products... this is off the
top of my head, so my apologies in advance for the lameness.
1) They only work for a limited amount of time before requiring a reboot.
2) Just when you think you've found every possible flaw, around comes
another one.
3) They try to pass themselves off as something they're not even though
everyone knows they're defective.
4) They're completely against any open source (emotion) project.
5) All they want to do is screw you.
Phil Kmble wrote in message ...
Lisa M. Wilson
Phil Kmble wrote in message ...
>My apologies if I offended anyone, but....
>
>Lame? Not at all, only speaking what yo feel to be the truth! :)
I don't actually -believe- that! Are you crazy? Guys are the second best
thing to come out of the primordial ooze. The best thing being us women, of
course.
Phil Kmble
Damn you sure know how to not only peg a man, but place a hurting on them
FOR REAL!!
> Five ways guys resemble Micro$uck or Micro$uck products... this is off the
> top of my head, so my apologies in advance for the lameness.
>
> 1) They only work for a limited amount of time before requiring a reboot.
>
> 2) Just when you think you've found every possible flaw, around comes
> another one.
>
> 3) They try to pass themselves off as something they're not even though
> everyone knows they're defective.
>
> 4) They're completely against any open source (emotion) project.
>
> 5) All they want to do is screw you.
Lame? Not at all, only speaking what yo feel to be the truth! :)