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GEM

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Dec 27, 2001, 8:09:58 AM12/27/01
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Was just cruisin' through the QSC website and found a page which disturbed
me. There was a batch of the RMX amps which have left the factory faulty
and they are recalling some. Log onto the website with you serial numbers
handy and try them.

Ours is one which has been recalled.

http://www.qscaudio.com/rmxservice.asp

Wes.

ChuxGarage

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Dec 27, 2001, 11:33:19 AM12/27/01
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QSC is one of the very few manufacturers in the pro audio field that ever does
recalls. Most manufacturers don't have the guts to admit that there might be a
problem. The usual response is "Your the only ones that seem to have that
problem."

QSC is a very responsible company and goes to great effort to make sure they
have happy customers. As I remember, the recall on some early RMX amps is over
a very trivial problem that is very unlikely to give you any problem, even if
it is not corrected. Most companies would never admit there might be a problem.
They would just wait until your amp required repair. Of course their hope is
that it will be out of warranty when that happens, so it would no longer be
their problem. QSC does not work that way. They have even been known to do
free repairs on an amplifier that was WAY past the written warranty period.

Until I sold my business a month or so ago, I've had the pleasure of doing
business with QSC for about 25 years. I was one of their earliest dealers. They
are great people to do business with. You should be happy that they want to
help you. Most companies are not that responsible.

Chuck Conrad

Nevyn

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Dec 27, 2001, 12:08:49 PM12/27/01
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"GEM" <geme...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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Hey Wes,
You should've been disturbed MONTHS AGO then, for that recall has been in
place for almost a year..
The recall is due to a wire that may get pinched against the power supply
and short against the chasis under extreme physical twisting of the chasis.
This problem is ONLY a problem if the user lifts the AC ground...and then
you physically man-handle the amplifier.
Us 'pros' don't do this, do we?
Properly grounded rack mounted amplifiers shouldn't have this problem.

BUT, if you are so inclined, you can move the wire and attach it away from
the PS. My personal favorite means of attachment is bubble gum.

:)

My personal favorite is when a manufacture lets your gear explode, then
*upgrades* it when you send it in for servicing. You never even knew there
was something *wrong*.

Crest is notorious for this. At least from my experiences with the CA12...

N.


GEM

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Dec 27, 2001, 5:12:23 PM12/27/01
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"Nevyn" <Ne...@emptyset.net> wrote in message
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>
> "GEM" <geme...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
> news:a0f6cv$khg3k$1...@ID-107515.news.dfncis.de...
> > Was just cruisin' through the QSC website and found a page which
disturbed
> > me. There was a batch of the RMX amps which have left the factory
faulty
> > and they are recalling some. Log onto the website with you serial
numbers
> > handy and try them.
> >
> > Ours is one which has been recalled.
> >
> > http://www.qscaudio.com/rmxservice.asp
> >
> > Wes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Hey Wes,
> You should've been disturbed MONTHS AGO then, for that recall has been in
> place for almost a year..

We in Oz always seem to be slightly behind in the upkeep of knowledge!

> The recall is due to a wire that may get pinched against the power supply
> and short against the chasis under extreme physical twisting of the
chasis.
> This problem is ONLY a problem if the user lifts the AC ground

now there's a thread we aren't going to start again!

> ...and then
> you physically man-handle the amplifier.
> Us 'pros' don't do this, do we?
> Properly grounded rack mounted amplifiers shouldn't have this problem.
>
> BUT, if you are so inclined, you can move the wire and attach it away from
> the PS. My personal favorite means of attachment is bubble gum.
>

What flavour? Does the flavour matter? How chewed must it be? Any brand?
I MUST KNOW!!!

> :)
>
> My personal favorite is when a manufacture lets your gear explode, then
> *upgrades* it when you send it in for servicing. You never even knew there
> was something *wrong*.

Mine too.

Wes.

Nevyn

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Dec 27, 2001, 6:00:25 PM12/27/01
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> >
>
> What flavour? Does the flavour matter? How chewed must it be? Any
brand?
> I MUST KNOW!!!
>
My son favors Grape Bubbalicious, but I'm rather fond of the old 'Bazooka'
bubble gum flavor...No matter how short the flavor lasts..Then there's the
point where you want to take the Bazooka gum out of your mouth and apply it
to the repair BEFORE it completely dissolves. That's the tricky part. BUT,
if you can manage it, that Bazooka gum will hold a '54 Dodge Dart
together...I know...

N.

Nevyn

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Dec 27, 2001, 8:41:52 PM12/27/01
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>
>
> This seems slightly off topic to me... could I get a ruling on this?
>
>
> --
>
> Checkmate
> Copyright 2001
> all rights reserved
> chec...@kotagor.com
>
>
DUDE!
We are having a SERIOUS conversation about field repairing audio equipment
with bubble gum. You can't get more ON TOPIC than this!

;-)

N.


Nevyn

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Dec 27, 2001, 8:47:48 PM12/27/01
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Now bugger off before I blow a REAL BIG BUBBLE and encapsulate your head....

(now THAT is a cool visual.. Can you do some ascii art to illustrate that?)

Later, Check

Bouncy-Bouncy...It's Tig-g-er-ific.

N.


The Beemer

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Dec 27, 2001, 9:09:34 PM12/27/01
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> DUDE!
> We are having a SERIOUS conversation about field repairing audio equipment
> with bubble gum. You can't get more ON TOPIC than this!
>
> ;-)
>

No less serious than the rec.music.makers.saxophone discussion of rubber
bands for field repair.

DB


Nevyn

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Dec 27, 2001, 9:44:15 PM12/27/01
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>
> You've never heard of duct tape?
>
> --
>
Mr. Mate
I make it my personal responsibility to appraise you of the correct usage
and terminology for tape in the Professional Audio Industry. The proper tape
to be using would be GAFFER'S TAPE. It is WAAAAAAAAAAY cooler than duct
tape..
In fact, the simple mention of duct tape in this circle would probably
elicit loud growls and snarls...

Let's try it...

"DUCT TAPE".

How did it work? Any growling?
Personally, I'd rather use Bazooka gum...
N.


Nevyn

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Dec 28, 2001, 12:11:26 AM12/28/01
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>
> I just heard a bunch of quacking. Hey, are you sure it's alright for you
> to talk to me?

>
>
> --
>
> Checkmate
> Copyright 2001
> all rights reserved
> chec...@kotagor.com
>
>

Who am I trying to impress? THESE GUYS? Come on.
Quite a few of the *regulars* here killfiled me in my first week of posting.
Their loss. Some of them are coming out of their shells. Those are the ones
that realize I know audio, and I'm not afraid to tackle the tough subject
matter.
OR make mistakes.
I don't take myself too seriously. I love what I do for a living, and don't
"Let people rent space in my head."
That's a funny quote I heard on the show "Street Smarts".

I find some humor in MOST of what you are doing here, even though you are
annoying.
So, if I don't make any friends by talking to you...??So what??

Personally, I'd rather there be a *pleasant* exchange between us than you or
I 'duking it out' in ascii land.
That's just silly...
Kinda like the 'water off a duck's back' thing.
(hey, I had to tie it in to the subject line, didn't I?)

N.

BTW, look up the word 'Silly' in the dictionary...Harsh, eh?

Plus, I have to distract you while Ken puts more porn in your
'inbox'...hehehehe (insert sinister laugh here......NO, MORE
sinister.....YEAH! That's it!)

Key Audio (Kenneth Kareta)

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Dec 28, 2001, 6:50:47 AM12/28/01
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Nevyn wrote:

> I make it my personal responsibility to appraise you of the correct usage
> and terminology for tape in the Professional Audio Industry.

At least He didn't call it "Duck" tape. Which should be it's proper name, now.
"Duck! that set list is about to fall"

> In fact, the simple mention of duct tape in this circle would probably
> elicit loud growls and snarls...

Gaffer's tape:
Better tensile strength
Glue actually dries evenly
Available in thousands of colors, including My personal favorite: Day-Glo
green. Perfect for little "it's broke" and "don't walk here" messages, as well
as marking Your cue wedge in the event of a really dark monitor beach!

Duct tape is for ducts .. and radiator hoses.

--
Ken Kareta, Owns,
Key Audio Services

*Can we take the lovebirds with us?, They haven't hurt anyone ..*
- Alfred Hitchcock (the Birds)

DAB

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Dec 28, 2001, 8:09:58 AM12/28/01
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"Checkmate" <Lunati...@The.Edge> wrote in message
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>
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 05:11:26 GMT, Nevyn put forth the notion that...
> Well alright, then... someone in this group actually "gets" it! It was
the
> uptight, humourless attitude that some of the people in this group
have,
> that attracted myself and a lot of my fellow Meowers here in the first
> place. Most of us have been on Usenet for years, and we really don't
take
> ourselves or any of this shit all that seriously. I do this for fun,
and I
> try to get a laugh out of my "victims" at least once in a while. I
> couldn't tell you how many groups I've trolled where I ended up making
> friends with most of its inhabitants before I was done. I don't even
> dislike Ken, although I must say I lost a lot of respect for him after
the
> way he handled things when it was quite obvious that he screwed up. At
any
> rate, I don't troll to see who I can get in trouble, but I'll often put
> someone in a situation... just to see how they react to it. This group
> does have more than its share of uptight individuals... glad to see
you're
> not one of them.

Yes I have some very fond memories of the Famous Jiffy Club Troll wars
did you know we are still listed as Enemies of the Empire of New
Scotland!

[taken in part from the: [FAQ] alt.mcdonalds.crew]


5. What is the Jiffy Club?

The Jiffy Club is a nickname that I gave to alt.clubs.just-for-fun. It
is a group of dumbshits who think it is ok to post in HTML to Usenet
and to post binaries to non-binary groups.

6. How did the Jiffy Club get it's nickname?

I gave the Jiffy Club it's nickname. Amazingly, the name was accepted
by the other flamers of the Jiffy Club.

Enemies of The Empire:

The Emperor hereby declares the following individuals enemies of The
Empire of New Scotland and of the denizens of alt.mcdonalds.crew:

The Jiffy Club
Bill Gates
Ronald McDonald
The McDonald Bros.
Bert & Ernie
Big Bird
Barney
Galvatron
Unicron
Earth
Dr. Smith
Easter Bunny
Tim Brown
Al McDowell
Cheryl Voss
T. C. Romath
Postmaster@CDLC
Rabbi Ernst Zundel
E. Varden
All Romulans

If seen these people should be reported to The Imperial Guard for
arrest and sentencing to The Imperial Salt Mines.


My Jiffy and the Trolls pages.
http://just-for-fun-club.net/trolls.html

Donna

>
>
>
> > Plus, I have to distract you while Ken puts more porn in your
> > 'inbox'...hehehehe (insert sinister laugh here......NO, MORE
> > sinister.....YEAH! That's it!)
>

> Tell him not to make it gay porn next time!

good ol' jimbo

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Dec 28, 2001, 12:38:00 PM12/28/01
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Checkmate wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:00:25 GMT, Nevyn put forth the notion that...
> This seems slightly off topic to me... could I get a ruling on this?
>
> --
>
> Checkmate
> Copyright 2001
> all rights reserved
> chec...@kotagor.com

son,

you are veering dangerously close to being off-topic.

you take care now,
jimbo

Nevyn

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Dec 29, 2001, 3:01:30 AM12/29/01
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> > Plus, I have to distract you while Ken puts more porn in your
> > 'inbox'...hehehehe (insert sinister laugh here......NO, MORE
> > sinister.....YEAH! That's it!)
>
> Tell him not to make it gay porn next time!
>
>
>
> --
>
Damn, man. That is just wrong! GAY porn? You're not gay are you? "not that
there's anything wrong with that..."

Above quote courtesy of Seinfeld.

I honestly can't qualify the whole 'Ken sent me porn' thing, cuz I don't
know enough about the internet stuff and how to trace things. I will say
this though, be sure you have your 'ducks in a row' before accusing people
of stuff. If Ken IS innocent, you just created a LOT of bad karma for
yourself. NO ONE needs more bad Karma...There's enough in this world to go
around.

I will also say;
I heard somewhere that around 80% of internet traffic involves porn. This
means that there are likely several people in the aapls circle with the
wherewithall to send someone porn and mask/distract the tracks. This simply
alludes to the fact that if you accuse someone of something, be sure you got
more than circumstantial or sketchy proof..You gotta be ROCK SOLID...

Regardless, I'm not making a judgement on it. It's not my business.

N.


Phildo RFL

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Dec 30, 2001, 8:44:34 AM12/30/01
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"Nevyn" <Ne...@emptyset.net> wrote in message
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> Who am I trying to impress? THESE GUYS? Come on.
> Quite a few of the *regulars* here killfiled me in my first week of
posting.
> Their loss. Some of them are coming out of their shells. Those are the
ones
> that realize I know audio, and I'm not afraid to tackle the tough
subject
> matter.

And now you make it completely obvious again why they killfiled you in
the first place and so are killfiling you all over again. Also, you say
you know audio but so far you've shown that it's more a case of you know
a bit about audio than actually having a firm grasp on it.

> OR make mistakes.

You are making a big mistake just responsing to these trolls and fucking
the newsgroup up for everyone.

> I don't take myself too seriously.

Or so you keep telling yourself........

>I love what I do for a living,

I never knew flipping burgers could be that rewarding......

> I find some humor in MOST of what you are doing here, even though you
are
> annoying.
> So, if I don't make any friends by talking to you...??So what??

You lose any chance of ever being accepted back into the group after
making such a pratt of yourself first time around.

> Personally, I'd rather there be a *pleasant* exchange between us than
you or
> I 'duking it out' in ascii land.

THat is like asking the hungry tiger who is chasing you if he'd like to
sit down and talk about it instead. These people don't do "pleasant" or
have you not even the mental faculty to grasp that simple concept yet?

Phildo


Lord Valve

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Dec 30, 2001, 1:12:29 PM12/30/01
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Phildo's outta coffee again...
LV

Phildo RFL

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Dec 30, 2001, 1:16:35 PM12/30/01
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"Lord Valve" <detr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Phildo's outta coffee again...

Nah, got plenty of it. Don't have any Barq's though.........

Actually it's because I've had run-ins with these meowers before, I've
seen what they can do to newsgroups and I know exactly the sad twats
they really are. It really annoys me to see someone like Nevyn
deliberately encourage them to disrupt the newsgroup just because we
called him on it when he came in here trolling.

Phildo


Nevyn

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Dec 30, 2001, 4:09:30 PM12/30/01
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>
> Nah, got plenty of it. Don't have any Barq's though.........
>
> Actually it's because I've had run-ins with these meowers before, I've
> seen what they can do to newsgroups and I know exactly the sad twats
> they really are. It really annoys me to see someone like Nevyn
> deliberately encourage them to disrupt the newsgroup just because we
> called him on it when he came in here trolling.
>
> Phildo
>
>
You know what Phildo?
Just reading your remarks to this thread completely illustrates why you are
where you are, and WHO you are in this life.

You so completely missed the point, and mis-read me and who I am, that I'm
sitting here laughing hysterically!

Have a happy New Year, and thanks for that hearty laugh.

N.


David Shorter

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Dec 30, 2001, 6:48:16 PM12/30/01
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Nevyn wrote:

> You know what Phildo?
> Just reading your remarks to this thread completely illustrates why you are
> where you are,

He resides in the UK, no problems there. :-)

Actually he seems to have found himself a nice little niche.


> and WHO you are in this life.

If I just go by some of the advice he's given on this group
then I'd have to say that although he may come of as fairly
opinionated (no problem with that, aren't we all) he does
appear to know his chops.

Phildo also knows long time friends and co-workers of mine so
through them I can pretty much vouch that his net persona is
pretty much himself.


> You so completely missed the point, and mis-read me and who I am,

Is it any wonder, after all when you first appeared here it
appeared that you were trying to take over from Jimbo.


> that I'm
> sitting here laughing hysterically!

For that matter who are you?


> Have a happy New Year, and thanks for that hearty laugh.

Ditto.

--

Regards,
David Shorter

Oceania Audio
Auckland, New Zealand

Any errors in tact, fact or spelling
are entirely due to transmission error.


Phildo RFL

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"Nevyn" <Ne...@emptyset.net> wrote in message
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> You know what Phildo?
> Just reading your remarks to this thread completely illustrates why
you are
> where you are, and WHO you are in this life.
>
Yeah, I'm exactly where you'd like to be which is out of most people's
killfiles on here. Same goes career-wise since I've already proved
myself whereas all you seem to want to do here is get gear cheap/free
(Behringer gear, yamaha manuals etc)

Jealousy will get you nowhere but you're welcome to keep ranting as it's
most amusing. Sadly very few people (myself included) will never get to
see your green-eyed tantrums since you've been pretty much killfiled as
the troll you are.

Phildo


Nevyn

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"Phildo RFL" <Ph...@phildo.net> wrote in message
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I've read quite a bit of your recent life, posted here for all to see.
I am certainly NOT jealous of you.
You are actually quite pitifull.
I pity you, you sad sad man.

'Keep ranting'? YOU are the one ranting about killfiling me!
YOU are ranting about how much of a troll I am!
THAT is rich!

Have a great, meaningless, joyless life...
However short it will be.

N.


Nevyn

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The subject line is a bastardized quote of a Edie Brickell and The New
Bohemians song, 'What I am'...

"David Shorter" <dazz...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Nevyn wrote:
>
> > You know what Phildo?
> > Just reading your remarks to this thread completely illustrates why you
are
> > where you are,
>
> He resides in the UK, no problems there. :-)
>
> Actually he seems to have found himself a nice little niche.
>
>

Cool. Great for him.My statement was not to be taken LITERALLY.
I was alluding to his station in life, not location.
niche=ditch.

> > and WHO you are in this life.
>
> If I just go by some of the advice he's given on this group
> then I'd have to say that although he may come of as fairly
> opinionated (no problem with that, aren't we all) he does
> appear to know his chops.
>

If I go by the advice he's given on this group, I find him to illustrate as
much knowledge of audio as any of the 'others'. No more, but sometimes
less. The main distinction comes from his delivery. It is a rare thing for
him to express himself with any civility. He's as likely to give equal
measure of insult with his tepid conversation. In any other NG, his
delivery would constitute 'Flame Bait'.


> Phildo also knows long time friends and co-workers of mine so
> through them I can pretty much vouch that his net persona is
> pretty much himself.
>
>

So Phildo is a Dildo in person? It figures.


> > You so completely missed the point, and mis-read me and who I am,
>
> Is it any wonder, after all when you first appeared here it
> appeared that you were trying to take over from Jimbo.
>
>

NO. When I first 'appeared here', I began by partaking in an OT conversation
on Religion. Because my statements were firmly to the contrary of Dildo,
I'm immediately a 'Troll'. At that specific time frame, there was more name
calling and flaming each other than has happened recently with the
introduction of the 'meowers'.
At that point, Dildo was firmly and agressively calling all Christians 'head
cases' and other manner of MUCH more insulting things. I rebutted him, thus
I'm a troll.
Whatever.
Ogre Gleason chimed in, and I rebutted him too.
KillFile.
So be it.
I've attempted several times to smooth things over with those two, but there
is simply no point in it.
They are bull-dogs. Once their teeth get locked onto something...
Oh, BTW, I 'appeared' within a similar time frame as Jimbo. In fact, I think
I was here first by a little bit. Take that for what it's worth.

> > that I'm
> > sitting here laughing hysterically!
>
> For that matter who are you?
>

Who am I? It's rather plain in the name. Nevyn. Gaelic for 'none'(the
emptyset). I'm NO-ONE.
(that could be a play at false humility...)
;-p

If you read between the lines, I've given out quite a bit of info on myself.
BUT, if you want the short list:
Married, one child, one on the way. New house. I get my Queensland Heeler on
Monday.
I'm a third generation entertainment industy *person*
Both sides of the family, 2 generations back, were all professional
musicians.
I grew up in this industry.
I studied Classical Guitar and Investment Banking in college (many years
ago)
Mid - Level Concert Sound Provider. (size)
Owner/Operator of a bunch of stuff. Most of which isn't 'A' List equipment,
but it has paid for itself many times and I get very few complaints.
I pay cash for everything - no debt on gear at all.
Independant Contractor/Consultant for installs. As such, specializing in the
Christian/Church market.
I've done several, though not 'many' installs in the Phx, AZ area. Recently
working on Mt. View Christian Church. Others: Phoenix Inner City Church
(repair/maintenance of other's mistakes), 91st Psalm Church(consultant),
Tri-City Calvary (consultant), Palms Bible (consultant/contractor). Trinity
Bible (repair other's mistakes), The Fransiscan Renewal
Center(Consultation/Repair) There's a couple more, but the names are
slipping my mind.

As a Christian Provider, I've supplied equipment for and often mixed:
Sparkle Pop (also known as Miranda. They were a LOT of fun.)
American Made (#1 Hard Rock Christian Album of 1999. I supplied for their CD
release, and several other 'prep' shows)
The 77's
Mike Roe - Yes, that's my name on his live album. (so what? EXACTLY. It's
all in a days work, man)
The Lost Dogs - I happened to record their LAST show EVER. This one holds a
special place in my heart. That show was nationally released as a Tribute to
Gene Eugene's death.
Human
Billy Smiley and 8:28
PFR (most of PFR, Human, and 8:28 are local to Phx, and as such there
are/were several incarnations of their groups)
FFH

As a monitor engineer -hosting/operating the rig:
David Sanborn
Larry Carlton w/ Foreplay
David Benoit
Guitars and Saxes
Ottmar Liebert
Acoustic Alchemy
Ray Price. Great salsa...Seriously.
The Oak Ridge Boys
BTO
Jerry Riopelle
Smooth Grove w/ Slim Man
Smooth Jazz Christmas
Joe Brown
Esteban. Hehehehehehehe. Fun.
Lee Ritenour
Laurence Juber. Phenomenal guitar.
The Fix. They STILL rock.
Eric Merienthal. I see this sax playing cat about 6 times a year, in various
national level jazz bands. Great guy.
Leo Kottke
Tom Chapin
Christopher Cross
Rick Braun
Clint Rogers Ministries
The Kingsman
The Pink Floyd Laser Light Show (hosted FOH)
NPR's 'Wait Wait, Don't Tell Me' (hosted FOH, and mixed)
Jeez, how many should I list? This is straining my brain. The above list is
maybe the past 2 years worth. A bunch of them are regulars when they come
through town. I've been doing monitors for some of them for quite some time.

As primary provider/ FOH mixing person:
Howling Coyote's w/ Vince Womick
Morgan Family Heritage (provider only. Apparently they are the best Reggae
bands in existance?)
Priesthood w/ various mid-level hip-hop stars.
C.C. Deville - no comment.
Turning Point - regular clients.

I've also done corporate meetings as A1 for :
Motorola - several divisions
American West - several departments
Century 21
Micro-Age. Before their bankruptcy.
Coldwell Bankers
AG Edwards
The Iron and Steel Society (with AVR Nashville).
I'm sure there are more..

I've also worked as a system integrator/ QC specialist for a rather large
A.V. firm...Not a good time. WAAAY too many chiefs..They asked me not to
mention their name.Seriously. They are one of those 'underground' types, but
they are HUGE. I was dept head over: Midas H3k, PM4K, GL4,M3000, K2, 12
Dv-Dosc, 12 V-Dosc, 8 KF-850, 6 Aura 1808, 6 SB1000, Omni drive, DP226,
Varicurve, GQ600, DN360, DN410,12 UPM-1P and UPA-1P, 8 KF-300, AE-5 , AE-10,
Lots of Crown and PL 6.0, over 40 channels of Shure wireless... yadda
yadda...AND it was only ONE of 3 offices, each equally outfitted (mostly).
( the above is simply to illustrate that though I *own* mostly B-C rig
stuff, I have experience with a plethora of quality gear).
There's nothing like taking inventory of two dozen R&R Racks and Cases...Be
sure to let them air out for a day, or the adhesives will hurt you.
OR, if taken in short spans of time, you'll get a nice buzzzzzz.

I design my own enclosures and racks, and have pro-carpentars build them.
( I sometimes build the Beta boxes, but leave the *real* woodworking to the
specialists) I have several enclosures being utilized by regional sound
providers as their mains and front fill.
I have several custom sub-enclosures built into stages in various churches.

I'm currently designing enclosures for a DJ installation in a club to remain
nameless. Designing around the JBL 2226 and Baby Cheeks w/ 2426 driver.
I'm also currently in development of a floor wedge that utilizes the P Audio
BMD 750 and Beyma TD-360. I've yet to commit to a 12" or 15", but the
Eminence Omega Pro-15 looks very promising. The Omega Pro-12 or JBL 2206
also looks good. This alludes to another post about ports on planes other
than the face...
Part of the driver selection process includes compatibility to a proprietary
customization. (no, not Ferrofluid)

I build *almost* all my own interconnects and snakes. Because it's fun. (
I'm a sick, sick man. The smell of solder is, well, solder.).
I design and build custom passive X-overs, utilizing Aeon caps and Perfect
lay inductors.

Today, as *soundman*, I played the bass guitar, electric guitar, and sang
lead for a worship service...???
????That's what I said??
'Hey, I'm the sound man.' BUT, who am I to deny the bass player the
opportunity to urinate?

Nice to meet ya.

All of the above is completely legitimate and supportable. Draw your own
conclusions.
'What I am is what I am, you're what you are, or what....'

It's unlikely that I'll be posting to this NG anymore.
You and a couple of others are bright points of light in an otherwise dim
room. Even without the 'meowers' present, it simply isn't worth trying to
wade through the darkness to find the few points of light.
You can say that this is typical of unmoderated news groups, but it isn't
and you know it.
It's been pleasant chatting with you. If only the real world were as small
as Phildo's world, then we'd probably meet.
You are the type to draw your own conclusions. I respect that.
N.

Nevyn...@yahoo.com


Nevyn

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Hey Mr. Mate (how do you do that cool dot thingy above the 'e'?)

I'm not being run off.

To people like georgy porgy and dildo, this NG is an important part of their
life. (sad, no?)

This NG simply isn't going to 'rent space in my head'.

Though there are several people who post here that I would personally miss,
building/fostering those relationships in NG form is going to be impossible
with the current S/N ratio. (I'm not making a comment on the meowers. The
S/N wasn't very good before *you guys* got here, it's simply more
entertaining NOW than it was two weeks ago.).

Let's just say that there are some great reading materials.
'Think And Grow Rich'.
Maybe 'A Letter For Garcia'

It rather clearly illustrates the difference between me and *them*.

Have a great time *cleaning house* and be sage...I mean safe.

N.

Mike Hill

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Dec 31, 2001, 11:46:50 AM12/31/01
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:17:00 -0000, "Phildo RFL" <Ph...@phildo.net>
wrote:

Hi Phildo,
I recently had a question about miking up a church play. As most
seemed to agree that I need radio mikes to do it well, here's another
question ;-) Can I use 4 lapel mics with one reciever or do I need
four of each ? They probably need eight mikes, so I was hoping for one
reciever for the kids and one for adults. Also, are you anywhere near
NW England ?
Happy New Year, Mike.
GS550E SO(ish)B Soon to be ZZR600

Phildo RFL

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"Mike Hill" <micha...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ki513uk525dalllsa...@4ax.com...

> Hi Phildo,
> I recently had a question about miking up a church play. As most
> seemed to agree that I need radio mikes to do it well, here's another
> question ;-) Can I use 4 lapel mics with one reciever or do I need
> four of each ? They probably need eight mikes, so I was hoping for one
> reciever for the kids and one for adults. Also, are you anywhere near
> NW England ?

Nope, I'm just east of London although I do find myself up north every
now and then.

As for your question, each radio mic will need its own receiver. Eight
mics will need 8 transmitters and 8 receivers.

Phildo


GEM

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Dec 31, 2001, 6:52:10 PM12/31/01
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"Phildo RFL" <Ph...@phildo.net> wrote in message
news:a0q5ui$mepvg$1...@ID-77649.news.dfncis.de...

Actually Phildo - it depends on how the mic schedule turns out. If budgets
are tight and mic inputs are scarce, then it is possible to have multiple
transmitters on the one receiver PROVIDING only one is turned on at one
time. This involves someone sidestage turning them on when someone walks on
and off when they come off. If there are only 4 people on stage at any one
time - this can save a church big $. Careful forward thinking and planning
is needed here.

In terms of ease though - 8 tx's and 8 rx's are a hell of a lot more easier
to control!

Wes.

Key Audio (Kenneth Kareta)

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Jan 4, 2002, 5:56:36 AM1/4/02
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Nevyn wrote:

> It rather clearly illustrates the difference between me and *them*.

Nev, Your rep, locally is that of: "He gets a fair sound out of them home made
boxes". Happy deserting!

--
Ken Kareta, owns "Key Audio Services"
Audio Rentals for 100 to 100,000 listeners.
Massachusetts, Connecticut & Vermont (mailto:re...@keyaudio.com)
Arizona, New Mexico & parts of lower California (mailto:ren...@keyaudio.com)


Carl Updegraff

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Jan 6, 2002, 2:43:35 AM1/6/02
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"Key Audio (Kenneth Kareta)" <k...@keyaudio.com> wrote in message
news:3C358A1F...@keyaudio.com...
Just for the record...
That sounds a LOT like someone I know..
Also;
My boxes aren't 'home made'. The term 'Custom Built' is more appropriate.
They are professionally built to my specifications by a truly *gifted*
carpenter.
If you would like to see the amazing joints this guy gets, give me an email.
I have a couple of single 15"/2" boxes that are ready for their Ultimate
Lining. Pretty amazing woodworking.

BTW, the BMS 4590 driver is AWESOME! If you want a demo, give me a ring.
That is the ONLY compression driver I'm currently loading in my FOH.

For those of you who want a taste:
www.bmselektronik.de


Its kinda cool that you are asking around about me. I'm sure you'll hear the
good w/ the bad.
Like only a few people here on AAPLS, you draw your own conclusions.

I appreciate that

Carl Updegraff


Key Audio (Kenneth Kareta)

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Jan 6, 2002, 3:41:41 AM1/6/02
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Carl Updegraff wrote:

> Just for the record...
> That sounds a LOT like someone I know..

If that person spends time chasing waitresses in Tempe clubs, You're probably
correct ;-)
It was mentioned in passing when a Rhino employee asked if You were still about
the scene.

Carl Updegraff

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"Key Audio (Kenneth Kareta)" <k...@keyaudio.com> wrote in message
news:3C380D7C...@keyaudio.com...

Did this guy happen to have his truck stolen...TWICE?

Carl


martin heller

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Jan 6, 2002, 5:37:05 PM1/6/02
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Hello Carl,

Great to see another DIY Guy here, after a few months absence here.
May i ask some questions?
I would be really interested where you let the boxes build. I looked around
in germany and austria. Pretty expensive. Somebody told me there are some
good sources in CZ?
What measuring system would you recommend. I thought of ATB, Monkey Forest
or maybe TEF.
Need reliable results for frequency response, "Sprungantort", Impulse
response and waterfall diagrams. FIR Filter Programming isn't important at
the moment so maybe i can save a few bucks and not buy Monkey forest? :-)
It's a bit tough to get good results, since i don't have a good room for
measurements. So i have to work in a very narrow time window of approx.
30ms.
Maybe i should wait until spring and measure free field :-)
And, did you have any problems with the 4590? It seems this baby has some
trouble with max spl. At a fixed 10% THD, max SPL is pretty limited. But it
is mainly K2, so i think it should not be that bad? Do you have some Graphs
of your speakers, and would you be willing to publish them?

Many thanks
Martin


Carl Updegraff

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Jan 6, 2002, 5:58:26 PM1/6/02
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Hello Martin.
Interesting questions! All of them deserve answers. Too bad I'm a (insert
insult here) TROLL who has nothing worth adding to this NG.
Suffice to say, I've never reached the Max SPL of the BMS 4590...
If you would like to converse on these matters, feel free to email me
off-list.
My email is;
carl...@earthlink.net

Carl Updegraff

nmm

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Jan 6, 2002, 1:18:27 PM1/6/02
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Hey Carl

This oe is "On Topic" why not keep it on the list.

Strange how the real trolls drop out of most threads that get too techie
for them.

What was JBL's ad phrase in the 70's something Like "It'll Hurt Your Ears
before It Hurts our Speakers"??? Long time ago.


Phildo RFL

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Jan 6, 2002, 6:10:19 PM1/6/02
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"Carl Updegraff" <carl...@spamearthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Too bad I'm a (insert
> insult here) TROLL who has nothing worth adding to this NG.

That's not true. You just choose to behave in that way so are treated as
such.

Phildo


nmm

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Jan 6, 2002, 1:25:57 PM1/6/02
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On Sun, Jan 6, 2002 11:10 PM, Phildo RFL <mailto:Ph...@phildo.net> wrote,
whilst looking over a Jenny Craig Ad:

You should talk Dildo, you dumb fat putz

You behave in a way that demeans people with computers everywhere.

Chillike threats, Abuse, elitist assholism (with no basis in reality).
You are a prime example of Dumb fat F@##%

"In my years on the road I find that some dumb fatso is gonna learn the
hard way, that his childike crying isn't going to get anywhere"

Quit posting off topic crap You dumb fat goth looser bitch.

Hey Didn't Ivo dump Xymox off 4AD back in 87. SAy Hi to him, for me when
you clean the office toilet.


martin.heller

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Jan 7, 2002, 2:30:43 AM1/7/02
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Hello,

> Interesting questions! All of them deserve answers. Too bad I'm a (insert
> insult here) TROLL who has nothing worth adding to this NG.

Thanks for the email offer, i'll write one. Currently i try to decide
which mesuring system to buy, and it would be cool, if i could save
some bucks here.


But whats going on here??
I remember you as a really nice guy from the LAB (btw, there is a LAB
Basshorn Project going on, if you are interested), and on the other
side Phildo and George helped me a lot back in the days when i thought
i am a SR Company with a Mackie 1604 and some Yamaha Club IV Speakers
:-)

I mean, one can like their attitude or not, but i was pretty amused to
see that this NG consists mainly of flames at the moment.But OK, thats
not my thing. I just wonder whats going on...

And no, i won't killfile anybody :-)

Thanks
Martin

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