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Kenneth D Jordan

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Jun 20, 1991, 2:45:48 PM6/20/91
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Has anyone had any luck in getting Molec3D (ff482) on abcfd20 to work?

The manual claims that it runs on all Amigas, but I tried it on an old
A1000 with 2.5M and on a 25MHz A3000 with 8M, and both produce an

Undefined connect-item: O56\n

error message when loading the atrovenetin demo.

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FURRY R

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Jun 21, 1991, 12:06:22 AM6/21/91
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In article <142...@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, jor...@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Kenneth D Jordan) writes...

I've been running Molec3D on a 500 w/3 megs, 512k chip, and everything
seems to work great.
Does anybody know of an archive of files that will work with either
Molec3D or the IBM Alchemy software?

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Richard Blewitt

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Jun 21, 1991, 2:31:53 AM6/21/91
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In article <142...@unix.cis.pitt.edu> jor...@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Kenneth D Jordan) writes:
>Has anyone had any luck in getting Molec3D (ff482) on abcfd20 to work?

>The manual claims that it runs on all Amigas, but I tried it on an old
>A1000 with 2.5M and on a 25MHz A3000 with 8M, and both produce an

It works just fine on my 3000 (25 MHz w/6M). Unfortionatly
The 500 atom limit is a bit small for the proteins I'm interested in.

> Undefined connect-item: O56\n
>error message when loading the atrovenetin demo.

I would guess that you had some sort error when downloading. Try it
again.

Rick

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Richard Blewitt

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Jun 21, 1991, 3:50:08 PM6/21/91
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In article <1991Jun21.1...@menudo.uh.edu> j...@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend) writes:
>In article <20...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> rble...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt) writes:
>>[Molec3D] works just fine on my 3000 (25 MHz w/6M). Unfortionatly
>>The 500 atom limit is a bit small for the proteins I'm interested in.
>
>Well, I guess I shouldn't hit it with superoxide dismutase, then...
>(a 4380+ atom molecule we're using as a test case for a parallel chemistry
>package being developed here).

For what system are you developing this package? I'd love to be
able to do some work at home instead of going to lab (although the
Iris in the lab is nice to play with). If it isn't for the Amiga,
then I guess I'll just have to get back to my plans of writing on
myself.

J Eric Townsend

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Jun 21, 1991, 2:16:49 PM6/21/91
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In article <20...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> rble...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt) writes:
>[Molec3D] works just fine on my 3000 (25 MHz w/6M). Unfortionatly
>The 500 atom limit is a bit small for the proteins I'm interested in.

Well, I guess I shouldn't hit it with superoxide dismutase, then...


(a 4380+ atom molecule we're using as a test case for a parallel chemistry
package being developed here).

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J Eric Townsend

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Jun 21, 1991, 6:26:43 PM6/21/91
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In article <20...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> rble...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt) writes:
>In article <1991Jun21.1...@menudo.uh.edu> j...@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend) writes:
>>Well, I guess I shouldn't hit it with superoxide dismutase, then...
>>(a 4380+ atom molecule we're using as a test case for a parallel chemistry
>>package being developed here).
>
>For what system are you developing this package? I'd love to be
>able to do some work at home instead of going to lab (although the
>Iris in the lab is nice to play with). If it isn't for the Amiga,
>then I guess I'll just have to get back to my plans of writing on
>myself.

Har. This package is a general parallel computing package written
in a language invented here for that very purpose. Currently it
runs in an Intel iPSC/860. We see > Cray-2 performance with
16 i860 nodes.

Now if a friend of mine gets off his but and builds is dream
parallel machine (bunch of '030s in a box with an ethernet port) maybe
we'll see it running on a machine that costs < $300,000. :-)

Richard Blewitt

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Jun 22, 1991, 3:18:57 AM6/22/91
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In article <1991Jun21.2...@menudo.uh.edu> j...@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend) writes:

>Har. This package is a general parallel computing package written
>in a language invented here for that very purpose. Currently it
>runs in an Intel iPSC/860. We see > Cray-2 performance with
>16 i860 nodes.

>Now if a friend of mine gets off his but and builds is dream
>parallel machine (bunch of '030s in a box with an ethernet port) maybe
>we'll see it running on a machine that costs < $300,000. :-)

I know this is diverging from the Amiga a bit, but have you looked
at the algorythms put out by Klaus Schulten's group? They were
working with a connections machine, and a homebrew setup consisting
of 20 t-800 transputers sitting in a PC. Got about 1/4th cray speed
for ~20K, the connections setup was much faster than the cray
(actually, they said that the cray would not even work with large
systems). Getting back to the Amiga, a few multiprocessing boards
stuffed in Zorro III slots, along with a 34020 graphics board setup
could make on hell of a killer modeling workstation, for a mere
$25-30K.

J Eric Townsend

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Jun 22, 1991, 5:36:29 PM6/22/91
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In article <20...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> rble...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt) writes:
>Getting back to the Amiga, a few multiprocessing boards
>stuffed in Zorro III slots, along with a 34020 graphics board setup
>could make on hell of a killer modeling workstation, for a mere
>$25-30K.


Here's a list sent to me by a fellow amigan:

>From: BOAT...@vax.lse.ac.uk
>Subject: Transputers -At last the info
>
> Well here at last is the information I've been able to find on TRANSPuters
>and Graphics software on them:
>
>Producer: SANG Computersysteme Gmbh
> Am Wuennesberg 13
> D - 4300 Essen 1
> Germany
> Tel: (Germany)-
>
>
>201 / 7101191
>Products: MEGA-Link-Interface
> For: zorro II Slots
> Function: This is the interface that is required to connect the SANG
> Transputer-boards to the amiga. Besides the actual
>
> Hardware it also has softtware on board to make the
> usage of the transputers possible from the AMIGA.
> (Please excuse the awful english, but I'm translating
> all these messages as I type from german)
>Price: DM: 400.-
> (At time of print March 90)
>
>
>Product: MEGA-Link01- plus
>For: Zorro II Slot
>NOTE: MEGA-Link-Interface required!
>Function: This board comes with four T800-Processors with
> (each with) 1 - 8 MB RAM per piece (Transputer chip)
> (oops!) As with all other MEGA-Link boards this
> board can be expanded with an arbitrary number of
> other boards (and hence Transputers), Leading
> to increadible performance
>Price: DM 13600.- - 44000.-
> (Exchange rate $ for DM is about 1.5DM per $)
>
>Product: MEGA-Link02
>For: Zorro II
> MEGA-Link-Interface required
>Function: Transputer board with one T425/T800 processor
> with a maximum of 8MByte of RAM.
> Also on board is a Colour video controler
> working at 110 MHz and capable of 16,7 Mio.
> Colours (at once). The controler has a port
> for a Framegrabber or a U-Matic-Videomachine.
> Multiple boards can be linked up in parallel
> to increase processing power. Main application
> area of this board it the graphics area.
>Price: DM 8000.- - 11200.-
>
>Product: MEGA-Link03
>For: Zorro II
> MEGA-Link -interface
>Function: Data as Mega-Link01 plus but with one T425/T800
> having upto 32MByte RAM.
>Price: DM 4000.- - 37000.-
>
>
>FIRM: X-PERT
>Product: Avalon
>General info: The avalon harware ranges from models for the
> A500 to highlyintegrated transputer boards for
> the A3000. The following software can be
> purchased from X-pert supporting these boards:
> -TRANSPUTER-ASSEMBLER with an AMIGA specifie
> set of Commands and LIBRARIES
> -PARALLEL-C Compiler
> -HELIOS (Operating System for transputers)
> *PLUS*
> -THE INMOS development system
> *RAYTRACING*:
> -MIRANIM
> -MARASHADING
> -SABRINA
> (all support AVALON)
> It is recomended that the AVALON hardware
> be used in conjunction with the VISIONA
> Graphics boards to achieve best results.
>
> All boards have a HIGH-SPEEDLINK-TRANSFER
> with a transfer rate of 1MByte plus.
> There are five boards in the AVALON
> series:
>
>Product: AVALON Junior
>For: A500
>Function: One T800
> (i think)
> With up to 8MByte of memory.
>
>Product: ALALON T1
>For: Zorro II and Zorro II slots
>Function: (no description in book)
>
>Product: AVALON T4
>For: Zorro II and Zorro III slots
>Function: Up to 4 T800 each with up to
> 4MByte RAM
>
>Product: AVALON M64
>For: Zorro II and Zorro II
> Zorro IIII
>(sorry I mean of course Zorro III)
>Function: AS T1 I think but with 64MByte also
> as T4
>
>Product: AVALON MODULAR
>For: Zooro II and ZorroIII
>Function: High-Flexibility by using and choosing
> the modules to suit your application.
> Improve you transputer board by upgrading
> with such modules as single transputers
> or cache memory or interfaces.
> AVALON MODULAR is compatible to the nuw
> (new) INMOS standard B008. This means
> that up to 10 T800's can be placed on
> a single Board.
>MODULES: T800 with 1MB DRAM
> T800 with 4MB DRAM
> T800 with 8MB DRAM
> T800 with 128KB no wait-state SRAM
> T800 with 1MB no wait-state SRAM
> T800 with 2MB no wait-state SRAM
> T800 with 2MB DRAM and 32KB no wait-state SRAM
> (double module width)
> T800 with 4MB DRAM and 128Kb n.w-s. SRAM
> (double module-width)
> T801 with 160kb n.w-s SRAM (double
> module width)
>
>Hope this helps you, unfortunatly I have no prices dfor the XPert equipment so heres
>the address so you can find out for yourself:
> XPert Computer Services GmbH
> Weiherwiese 27
> D - 6270 Idstein
> Germany
> Tel: (Germany) 6126-8809/3056
> Fax: (Germany) 6126/54922
>
>And from the 1.1.91:
> Xpert Computer Services G,mbH
> HighTech-Zentrum
> (Moosfeld)
> Schatzbogen 56-58
> 8000 Muenchen 82\
> (Germany)
>
>
>FIRM: Binaerdesign Computer-Grafik (Germany)
>Address: Binaerdesign Computer-Grafik
> Am Sanderring 22
> D - 8700 Wuertzburg
> (Germany)
>Tel: (Germany) - 931-18540
>Fax: (Germany) - 931-13222
>NB: All prices incl. 14% vat
> (All the prices I've alreay quoted also include 14%vat)
>
>Product: Amiga Transputer Workstation
> 10 MIPS
> + 1.5 MFlops pro 20Mhz T800 Transputer
> Internaly expandable with up to 5 T800's
> Up to 1280 * 1024 in 256 Colours and 800*900 in 16.7mil
> Unix-Like OS HeliOS. (Multitasking)
> X-Windows type interface available
> Transputers run parallel and can be also used seperatly
>
>Price: On inquiry depending on expansion.
>
>Product: Transputer Software
>Program: Sabrina
> 3D modeling in 16.7 million colours
> Support of multiple transputers
> Output in pal res.or in 8000*8000 (slides)
>
>Program: Miranim
> Script-Orienteted Animation system
> (script graphicsl)
> Sehr complex animations, films and simulations possible.
> Expandible with the language Cinemira-2
> Includes Sabrina dor 3D modeling.
> VLAN compatible control of single frame video recorders.
>
>Display: Output or 24Bit Amiga Graphics (TurboSilver, Sculpt3D,
> DigiView, TIFF, TGA, Miranim, 3DProfessional, Calgari,...)
> VLAN compatibility as above. Export in IFF TGA and Miranim
> formats.
>
>Prices: SABRINA - DM 3498.00
> MIRANIM - DM 19398.00pf
> DISPLAY - DM 998.00pf
>
>Products: Amiga-Computer Graphic Software
>
>Program: Caligari Professional DM 3998.00pf
>Program: 3D Professional DM 998.00pf
>Program: Painter 3D DM 239.00pf
>
>Products: Amiga Computer-Grafik hardware
>Product: 24Bit Transputer-Graphic board 800*600 DM 8500.00pf
>Product: MICROWAY FlickerFixer DM 948.00pf
>Product: Genlock Option for FlickerFixer DM 178.00pf
>Product: GVP Turboboard 68030/68882 28MHz, 4MB DM 4498.00pf
>Product: GVP SCSI Harddisk and controller ????????
>produc
>Product: Optical-Changable Disk (up to 650MB) DM 9998.00pf\
>Product: Network Ethernet startkit for 2 Amiga's DM 2498.00pf
>Product: Complete graphic systems in all configurations required
> available.
>
>VIDEO SYSTEMS
>Product: Single Picture Recording System from DM 22998.00pf
> JVC Professional S (VHS S-VHS) Edicorder BRS 811S
> VLAN interface and control
> Software for MS-Dos and AMIGA systems available.
> (for the Transputers)
>Product: Videocomp Hardware
> G100 Component Genlock
> Videobus - modular Videointerface
> DVE 10 A new video processing system for the Amiga system
> with a Digitiser, Genlock, and Videomixer.
>Price: DM 2998.00pf
>
>Product: Videomedia Video-Cut and control systems
> VLAN systems for Video editing and productioncontrol
>
>Product: JVC Professional Videosysteme
> Professional-S Recorders and Cameras
> MII Components, Recorders and Cameras
> Videomixers and Effectsystems
> (No prices given)
>
>S E R V I C E S
> Computer graphics and animations (to specs)
> DTP and advertising agence.
> Single pictur
> Single frame recording service for animations.
>
>
>
>
>Hope this helps you even more, Id love to buy all of these but can afford them
>All the best,
> Niall
> (n...@doc.ic.ac.uk)

Leonard Norrgard

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Jun 25, 1991, 10:58:20 AM6/25/91
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> XPert Computer Services GmbH
> Weiherwiese 27
> D - 6270 Idstein
> Germany
> Tel: (Germany) 6126-8809/3056
> Fax: (Germany) 6126/54922
>
>And from the 1.1.91:
> Xpert Computer Services G,mbH
> HighTech-Zentrum
> (Moosfeld)
> Schatzbogen 56-58
> 8000 Muenchen 82\
> (Germany)

The latter address is only for the product development department,
sales & marketing are still at the first address. They don't give out
the phone number to the r&d dept. (But then there's phone directory
service ;-)

-- Leonard

Leonard Norrgard

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Jun 25, 1991, 11:07:36 AM6/25/91
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One more thing re: the X-Pert Avalon & Visiona boards. At the end of
April, the Avalon project was frozen, due to some problem with their
software supplier (or so they said at the Berlin Amiga '91 expo). The
Visiona board is scheduled for release late this year. (Hope their
timing is a little bit better than NewTek's :-).
As usual though, the best way to get the latest info is to call
them (and post if you find out anything new!).

-- Leonard

Neil Richmond

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Jun 28, 1991, 2:04:07 PM6/28/91
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Sorry to waste bandwith, but I wanted to make sure you got my mail. Email
me. Thanks.

neil

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