QuickReply quoting patch

[David Fraser]

Hi all

For any of you who use the quickreply extension to thunderbird
(http://www.transpontine.com/thunderbird/) I have done a patch that
enables the quoting setting, so the message you are replying to will
automatically be quoted. If you have selected part of the message, just
that part will be quoted.

I have attached the patch to this message in case anyone else wants to
try this out - it makes replying so much easier than opening another
window, typing a message and sending. However, I didn't really want to
use it without the quoting, hence the patch

(I also sent it to erwin, the author)

By the way, this raises an interesting question ... these newsgroups
(both the secnews thunderbird one and the public mail-news one) really
seem a forum for testing/end user discussion rather than development.
But I really don't like using the mozillazine forums (why would we want
an interface like that to discussions when we have an absolutely
brilliant mail-news program?) So I think we should support the
netscape.mozilla.developers group. But this group doesn't let me post
(is it a closed group?)

David

[David Fraser]

David Fraser <dav...@sjsoft.com> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> For any of you who use the quickreply extension to thunderbird (http://www.transpontine.com/thunderbird/) I have done a patch that enables the quoting setting, so the message you are replying to will automatically be quoted. If you have selected part of the message, just that part will be quoted.

PS Demonstrating the quoting of a part of a message, and also another patch I just wrote to enable quick reply for newsgroups...

[Karsten Düsterloh]

David Fraser aber hob zu reden an und schrieb:

> By the way, this raises an interesting question ... these newsgroups
> (both the secnews thunderbird one and the public mail-news one)
> really seem a forum for testing/end user discussion rather than
> development. But I really don't like using the mozillazine forums

Me neither.
I lokk into them now and then, but I do not post there - I won't
probably be reading the answers soon enough to actually get a discussion
going. :|

> (why would we want an interface like that to discussions when we have
> an absolutely brilliant mail-news program?)

Still more of a hidden gem, but: yeah!

> So I think we should support the netscape.mozilla.developers group.
> But this group doesn't let me post (is it a closed group?)

I don't know about that group, but I think that a Mozilla development
news hierarchy (like mozilla.development.*; maybe on a "closed" server
"news.mozilla.org" only) would be a good idea...

Karsten
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[David Fraser]

Jay Garcia wrote in secnews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.mozilla.thunderbird that actually there is such a development news place: secnews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.mozilla.development.* (currently only general exists, and don't try posting in the parent group)

This is on a closed server in the sense that it requires authentication.
Maybe if lots of developers started actually using it it would take off
thanks
David

[Jay Garcia]

On 31.07.03 10:55, David Fraser wrote:

--- Original Message ---

It doesn't require authentication, only configuration for port 563 and
enable SSL is all you have to do.

I added this group on the secure server mainly because of no feed to or
from usenet and no spam !! ;-)

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[Karsten Düsterloh]

Jay Garcia aber hob zu reden an und schrieb:
[secnews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.mozilla.development.*]

> It doesn't require authentication, only configuration for port 563
> and enable SSL is all you have to do.
>
> I added this group on the secure server mainly because of no feed to
> or from usenet and no spam !! ;-)

Actually, I'm not quite happy with all these "netscape" thingies in that
hierarchy (after all, there's not much left it, wrt Mozilla), but I'll
have a look.

[Jay Garcia]

On 31.07.03 11:55, Karsten Düsterloh wrote:

--- Original Message ---

> Jay Garcia aber hob zu reden an und schrieb:
> [secnews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.mozilla.development.*]
>> It doesn't require authentication, only configuration for port 563
>> and enable SSL is all you have to do.
>>
>> I added this group on the secure server mainly because of no feed to
>> or from usenet and no spam !! ;-)
>
> Actually, I'm not quite happy with all these "netscape" thingies in that
> hierarchy (after all, there's not much left it, wrt Mozilla), but I'll
> have a look.
>
>
> Karsten

It has to be that way, hierarchy you know. But the parent "name"
shouldn't be of consequence just so long as the group is viable.

I have no idea at this time as to the longevity of the server/groups,
etc. Seeing as how they're still here after all that's happened is
somewhat comforting. AOL may pull the plug tomorrow, who knows.

[J.B. Moreno]

David Fraser <dav...@sjsoft.com> wrote:

Any chance this can be used to fix:
<http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23394>

--
J.B. Moreno

[David Fraser]

One of the real frustrations of trying to implement this patch was that I looked at the standard Thunderbird coding for replies, which goes through a complicated mechanism of loading the original message from the message database... it seems there is no easy way (without stream listeners, etc) to just get the message body.
Having looked at the bug you mentioned, I think the real reason that it hasn't been fixed is that the whole reply mechanism is too complicated. If somebody looked at the whole thing and simplified it, it would be fairly easy to do the reply-to-selection. It was much easier to implement for quick-reply by just getting the message pane frame, which you can ask for the selection. Look at the patch if you're interested in details. I'll post something about this to that bug too...