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ring theory part 6: destroying the One

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Hasan Murtaza

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Sep 13, 2003, 5:51:38 PM9/13/03
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Ring theory
part 6
Ways to destroy the ring

Electric currents in a superconductor act just like fluids according to
Feynman (1). If we treat the 2 currents in the ring, as 2 circular
streams of water flowing at incredibly high speed, the simple solution
to neutralizing them would be to turn the streams toward each other, and
have them collide and explode. Dia 1 draws this.


Diagram 1
2 ring currents

<--1--
.------.
/ -2-> \
| / \ |
| \__/ |
\ <-2- /
`.____.'
--1->


The ways to turn the currents are as follows:

1. electric field pointed from the center of the ring, extending
outwards radially

This will cause one of the currents to change direction moving towards
the field, until it finally hits the other one. The sign of the field
determines which current will move. If the outer current moves inward,
the innter current will stay the same.

Note this method only moves 1 current at a time, and so it is less
efficient than methods which move both.

The amount of energy required to move the ring currents, are on the
order of magnitude of the eneryy present in the ring current itself.
That is to say, HUGE. So this method is no different from striking the
ring with a hammer or axe, with a force equal to the same amount of
energy delivered quickly.

cons: lots of energy required 'up-front'.
pros: lightning strikes could be used to get the e field.

Brute Force method.

2. Magnetic field

A uniform megnetic field applied to the ring, will cause the ring
currents to shift to counteract it.

If the inner current expands outwarly enough, and tbe outer current
contracts inwardly, then the two might meet and self destruct.

prognosis: this method has some potential, particularly since even small
magnetic fields cause small eddy currents to flow in the superconducior.
If fields can be set up to oppose the existing currents, then the
energy of the ring can be slowly sapped, until the ring is weak enough
to be submitted to gimlis axe.

3. Gimlis axe

This method of striking the ring with an axe while yelling curses at the
top of your breath (Baruk Khazad!) , only works if your axe has a
frequency of 100 gigahertz as we said before. there may be a way to
epxloit nonideal effects of the ring, since by hitting it some nergy
must be lost in small amounts, but the ring would long cast its spell
over you before you even got to the point of weaknening it.

dropping a mountain on the ring might work, ... but not likely.


4. Mithril knives or needles

This method involves sticking a sharp object slooooooooowly into the
ring. The theory is to penetrate the lattice without disturbing the
current, thereby breaking the ring up from the inside.

The energy required to penetrate it is less than the total ring current
energy, which is good. How much damage can be done by a knife by itself
is doubtful. However when combined with method 5 the results may be
interesting.

5. molecular beam (shit) epitaxy

this method involves spraying a molecule onto the ring, to let it
diffuse into the surface, and alter the superconducting properties
sufficiently to cause a chain reaction to occur and the whole ring's
superconductivity will cease to be.

No such substance has been identified yet.

6. Ring sapping

This method involves using other similar rings of power (as long as they
are superconducting at room temp), linking them to the one ring in an
infinity-sign configuration, and letting current from the One ring flow
into it, before removing it and conquering each (weaker) ring separately.

One ingenious method involves generating a 2nd ring of power, with
opposite current flow, and joining it to the one ring. The resulting
explosision would be immediate, and probably enough to destroy the
superconducting effect in the One and cause it to release all its
imparted energy as heat in a flash. This may be described as using a
trigger to 'blow up' the One.

There would have to be an estimate made of the effects of exploding the
one ring, safely, on earth.

7. sound waves

High frequency sound waves may interfere with the lattice vibrations
which are essential in the superconductive effect. The result may be a
way to make the superconductive effect stop--merely by singing at a high
pitch. This effect could be seen as a laboratory way of simulating
gimlis axe, rather than as a separate method altogether.

Next topic:
investigating whether the ring has any circuitry embedded onto it.
how it produces invisbility by enveloping its wearer with a gaussian
surface in the fourth dimension, to do the electromagentic wave
cancellation, while the ring merely measures the remaining flux to be
removed by this surface.


Ps. I don't know where this whole thing came from. I wanted to write
about the gaussian surfaec theory of the ring fantasy-theory, but the
superconducting thing just came out and it works better than this
surface thing does. ;)

I enjoyed making this up. It's quite enlightning.

Hasan

References:
1. Feynman lectures on physics, chapter 21 superconductivity.

coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges

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Sep 13, 2003, 6:03:43 PM9/13/03
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> to neutralizing them would be to turn the streams toward each other, and
> have them collide and explode. Dia 1 draws this.

didnt fenkman emphatically state
never cross the streams

Hasdrubal Hamilcar

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Sep 13, 2003, 9:17:17 PM9/13/03
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Hm....

Feynman, Lectures on Physics, Vol III, A-2

"Now that we have tried to give you a qualitative explanation of
diamagnetism (note: the currents generated in a substanec to oppose a
magnetic field applied from the outside, is diamagnetism. One of the
assumptions of ring theory was Sauron using diamagnetism to start the
ring current) and paramagnetism, we must correct ourselves and say that
it is not possible to understand the magnetic effects of materials in
any honest way from the point of view of classical physics. Such
magnetic effects are a *completely quantum mechanical phenomenon.*

"It is, however, possible to make some phoney classical arguments and to
get some idea of what is going on. We might put it this way. You can
make some classical arguments and get guesses as to the behavior of the
material, but these arguments are not "legal" in any sense because it is
absolutely essential that quantum mechanics be involved in every one of
these magnetic phenomena.

"On the other hand, there are situations, such as in a pIasma or a
region of space with many free electrons, where the electrons do obey
the laws of classical mechanics. And in those circumstances, some of the
theorems from classical magnetism are worth while. Also, the classical
arguments are of some value for historical reasons.

"The first few times that people were able to guess at the meaning and
behavior of magnetic materials, they used classical arguments. as we
have already illustrated, classical mechanics can give us some useful
guesses as to what might happen--even though the really honest way to
study the subject would be to learn quantum mechanics first and then to
understand the magnetism in terms of quantum mechanics."

I didn't know this quote until you made your comment, coyotes, and then
I found it. I think it's the best justification for the type of
'fantasy science' (he calls it phoney classical arguments) that I have
been doing. I wouldn't have noticed it if it had not been for your
remark. Thanks! "The text that the writer ignored as being useless,
turns out to be the headstone of the project."

Hasan

Note: I OCR'ed the Feynman part above, which explains how it is so
typo-free. My usual writing is done without revising it too much or
even reading, for if I started to do so I would correct it until hell
freezes over. My typos are usually all unintentional.

Hasan

coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges

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Sep 13, 2003, 10:28:13 PM9/13/03
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In article <xkP8b.19397$Rm1....@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
Hasdrubal Hamilcar <syed_hasa...@rogers.com-nospam> wrote:

> coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote:
> >>to neutralizing them would be to turn the streams toward each other, and
> >>have them collide and explode. Dia 1 draws this.
> >
> >
> > didnt fenkman emphatically state
> > never cross the streams
>
>
> Hm....
>
>
>
> Feynman, Lectures on Physics, Vol III, A-2

try ghostbusters

Morgil

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Sep 14, 2003, 5:38:09 AM9/14/03
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"coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" <mair_...@yahoo.com>
kirjoitti viestissä:mair_fheal-13...@c120.ppp.tsoft.com...

> In article <xkP8b.19397$Rm1....@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
> Hasdrubal Hamilcar <syed_hasa...@rogers.com-nospam> wrote:
>
> > coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote:
> > >>to neutralizing them would be to turn the streams toward each other,
and
> > >>have them collide and explode. Dia 1 draws this.
> > >
> > >
> > > didnt fenkman emphatically state
> > > never cross the streams

> > Feynman, Lectures on Physics, Vol III, A-2
>
> try ghostbusters

Fool! It was SPENGLER!!

Morgil

"Important safety-tip... Thanks, Egon."


coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges

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Sep 14, 2003, 1:53:05 PM9/14/03
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In article <bk1ctv$o09mi$1...@ID-81911.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Morgil"
<more...@hotmail.com> wrote:

at least i remembered not to cross the streams

Een Wilde Ier

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Sep 14, 2003, 2:39:06 PM9/14/03
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coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote:

> In article <bk1ctv$o09mi$1...@ID-81911.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Morgil"
> <more...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" <mair_...@yahoo.com>

>>kirjoitti viestiss?:mair_fheal-13...@c120.ppp.tsoft.com...


>>
>>>In article <xkP8b.19397$Rm1....@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
>>>Hasdrubal Hamilcar <syed_hasa...@rogers.com-nospam> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>to neutralizing them would be to turn the streams toward each other,
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>>>have them collide and explode. Dia 1 draws this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>didnt fenkman emphatically state
>>>>>never cross the streams
>>
>>>>Feynman, Lectures on Physics, Vol III, A-2
>>>
>>>try ghostbusters
>>
>>Fool! It was SPENGLER!!
>>
>>Morgil
>>
>>"Important safety-tip... Thanks, Egon."
>
>
> at least i remembered not to cross the streams

"Aim for the flat-top!"

--
Een Wilde Ier

A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas
Adams

coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges

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Sep 14, 2003, 2:44:47 PM9/14/03
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> "Aim for the flat-top!"

was sauron reincarnated as the sta puft marshmallw man?
was gozan the traveller morgoth or a balrog?
were the gatekeeper and jkeymater whelps of cararcoth?

Een Wilde Ier

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Sep 14, 2003, 3:03:13 PM9/14/03
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coyotes rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote:

- Venkman as Frodo
- Ray as Samwise Gamgee
- Egon as Gandalf
- Winston as Celeborn
- Slimer as Gollum

--
Een Wilde Ier

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very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams

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