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Jack

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Dec 20, 2003, 9:40:12 PM12/20/03
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I need some help making a decision on getting an external Firewire
hard drive for my laptop. I've looked at Glyph, LaCie, Western Digital,
and others. 7200 RPM drives all of them, comparable chip sets, etc. Size
for size, Glyphs are more expensive than any of the other manufacturer's
drives. I read a lot of the magazines and they mention the Glyphs like
they are the Holy Grail. Are they really worth paying more for them,
spec for spec, than I would for say, a Western Digital drive?
If it makes a difference, I'll not be powering the drives from the
laptop's Firewire port, as it's only a 4 wire port, which doesn't have
the power hook-up in it. So it'll be using something with a brick or
internal power supply.
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de Jack N2MPU FN20
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t fitzgerald

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Dec 21, 2003, 1:11:38 AM12/21/03
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We have been using Lacie drives with no problems. Haven't seen a need to
pay the higher Glyph drive prices. Todd F.

Todd Fitzgerald
Chief Engineer
OarFin Studios Minneapolis
www.oarfinrecords.com

WillStG

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Dec 22, 2003, 1:34:15 AM12/22/03
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>Jack jack...@monmouth.com

>Glyphs are more expensive than any of the other manufacturer's
>drives.

Ask about people's experiences with Glyph customer support when a drive
fails. That's what you are paying more for, getting a replacement overnighted
to you when you drive fails, that sort of service. If you don't need that kind
of support because drives are cheap enough to have a bunch of drives/backups,
get something cheaper that works well. I have about 7 Glyph drives around and
none have failed in 5 years, but I bought them all cheap as blowouts including
my pair of Firewire Netdrives.

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

Jack

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Dec 23, 2003, 9:54:52 PM12/23/03
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In article <20031222013415...@mb-m10.aol.com>, in
rec.audio.pro, wil...@aol.comnospam says...

> >Jack jack...@monmouth.com
>
> >Glyphs are more expensive than any of the other manufacturer's
> >drives.
>
> Ask about people's experiences with Glyph customer support when a drive
> fails. That's what you are paying more for, getting a replacement overnighted
> to you when you drive fails, that sort of service. If you don't need that kind
> of support because drives are cheap enough to have a bunch of drives/backups,
> get something cheaper that works well. I have about 7 Glyph drives around and
> none have failed in 5 years, but I bought them all cheap as blowouts including
> my pair of Firewire Netdrives.

Thanks much for the reply. I had no idea that Glyph's support was THAT
good! I definitely appreciate good customer support. Now if only Native
Instruments was even half that good I'd be set. Trying to get help from
them makes me want to get a root canal without novocaine or other
anesthetic.

Jeff Chestek

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Dec 23, 2003, 10:34:37 PM12/23/03
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> > >Jack jack...@monmouth.com
> >
> > >Glyphs are more expensive than any of the other manufacturer's
> > >drives.
> >
> > Ask about people's experiences with Glyph customer support when a drive
> > fails. That's what you are paying more for, getting a replacement overnighted
> > to you when you drive fails, that sort of service. If you don't need that kind
> > of support because drives are cheap enough to have a bunch of drives/backups,
> > get something cheaper that works well. I have about 7 Glyph drives around and
> > none have failed in 5 years, but I bought them all cheap as blowouts including
> > my pair of Firewire Netdrives.
>
> Thanks much for the reply. I had no idea that Glyph's support was THAT
> good! I definitely appreciate good customer support. Now if only Native
> Instruments was even half that good I'd be set. Trying to get help from
> them makes me want to get a root canal without novocaine or other
> anesthetic.

I've dealt with both Lacie and Glyph for technical support.

Take my word for it.

Glyph stands head and shoulders (and torso, groin, legs, feet, and
toenails) above the lesser priced spread.

I'll happily pay a little more for Glyph.

Jeff C.

Arny Krueger

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Dec 24, 2003, 7:39:33 AM12/24/03
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"Jack" <jack...@monmouth.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a52ca0b9...@news.cis.dfn.de

Given the online price I found for a Glyph drive ( 80 GB for $350), it seems
pretty feasible to visit pricewatch, get 3 firewire cases and 3 80 7200 rpm
GB drives, have a little quiet communion with a screwdriver. Keep one on the
shelf as a spare and have 2 to play with. Immediate replacement from local
stock beats overnight shipment, in my opinion.

examples:

http://www.coolerexpress.com/byal3hadrexe.html

http://www.dealsonic.com/plpmblidetof.html?AID=10304335&PID=1406438

http://www.upgrade-solution.com/detail.cfm?show=yes&PID=305&add=yes

http://nt-micro.com/ntik/details.asp?item=HDWD800EB


Richard Crowley

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Dec 24, 2003, 11:13:53 AM12/24/03
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"Arny Krueger" wrote ...

> Given the online price I found for a Glyph drive
> (80 GB for $350), it seems pretty feasible to visit

> pricewatch, get 3 firewire cases and 3 80 7200 rpm
> GB drives, have a little quiet communion with a screw-

> driver. Keep one on the shelf as a spare and have 2 to
> play with. Immediate replacement from local stock
> beats overnight shipment, in my opinion.

"Brand name" computers/devices are for those who don't
know which end of a screwdriver (or soldering iron) to hold.

Are there still people that don't realize that hard drives
are a commodity product these days? My employer used
to to be the major manufacturer of DRAM until it became
a commodity product mass produced on the left edge of
the Pacific rim. Same is happening with hard drives. As
most miniature, massively-integrated stuff these days,
cheaper to replace than to repair. (And our data back-up
habits should reflect this fact of life.)

If you really have you heart set on 80Gb, better get 'em
soon before they are too small to be profitable to make
and sell.


Mike

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Dec 25, 2003, 12:06:06 PM12/25/03
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Jack <jack...@monmouth.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a4ed21a7...@news.cis.dfn.de>...

> I need some help making a decision on getting an external Firewire
> hard drive for my laptop. I've looked at Glyph, LaCie, Western Digital,
> and others. 7200 RPM drives all of them, comparable chip sets, etc. Size
> for size, Glyphs are more expensive than any of the other manufacturer's
> drives. I read a lot of the magazines and they mention the Glyphs like
> they are the Holy Grail. Are they really worth paying more for them,
> spec for spec, than I would for say, a Western Digital drive?
> If it makes a difference, I'll not be powering the drives from the
> laptop's Firewire port, as it's only a 4 wire port, which doesn't have
> the power hook-up in it. So it'll be using something with a brick or
> internal power supply.

I wouldn't be caught dead buying Glyph. While they may give tech
support the price of their stuff is double and triple of the general
stuff on the market, and they are using mechanisms etc that you buy
somewhere else. They don't make it, they just test and evaluate it. So
you are essentially buying equipment they have evaluated for pro audio
use and slapped their name on.

My one purchase of a Glyph product was one that had a Phillips CDD2600
2 x 6 burner in it. I didn't use it that heavily. After burning
maybe 50 discs on it, and having many problems doing that, it went
belly up. This was just after the warranty was up.

In my research I found that the CDD2600 was one of the most flawed,
cheaped out burners on the market. So I paid extra money and still got
horeshit. I had called Glyph before I bought and asked them what the
difference between their stuff and others was and they said something
like they optimized the rom for audio.

So, you might as well just buy the cheap stuff and replace it when it
dies.

Mike http://www.mmeproductions.com

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